[00:00] tomreyn didn't get anything back ( But then I also turned off gufw). [00:00] @tomreyn nmcli d : lo loopback unmanaged [00:01] for journalctl -b | grep -v UFW | nc termbin.com 9999 [00:01] nmatrix: gufw is the graphical frontent to ufw [00:01] @tomreyn nmcli c reports nothing [00:01] tomreyn yes [00:01] my suggesiton is to disable ufw [00:01] ok [00:02] tomreyn done [00:02] theteju: so nmcli doesn't see the ethernet NICs for some reason [00:02] @tomreyn correct [00:03] theteju: see your system log about why they aren't being handled by NM [00:05] theteju: look for the numbers in [square:brackets] returned by lspci -knn | grep -EA3 '(Network|Ethernet) controller' in the output of journalctl -b (press slash to start a search there) and see the following lines to learn what was done with these network interfaces [00:07] actually you can just copy the numbers that stick out to the left from the first command, and searhc those on the log [00:08] the number are 1458:e000 [00:10] the one on the line before that would be mor einteresting [00:10] searching your id brings up this, though: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1244745/ubuntu-20-04-intel-network-connectivity-issue-bug-in-igc [00:12] tomreyn interesting virtualbox is running for quite a while now without freezing the box, will give it another 10 minutes. [00:12] @tomreyn but my network card is not intel [00:13] theteju: see, that's why i was saying "the one on the line before that would be more interesting" [00:13] wait,, another numbers in bracket 10ec:8168 === PowerTower_121 is now known as PowerTower_120 [00:15] RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller , should work out of the box, i think [00:17] @tomreyn journalctl -b does not have much about that card [00:17] tomreyn: uses kernel module r8169 [00:18] jeremy31: which is in ubuntu kernels, right [00:19] tomreyn: yes [00:19] in case you feel like driving? i'm about to head to bed. [00:20] @tomreyn: systemd-networkd is not running, (found in log) [00:20] is this since the 5.8.0-36 update? [00:21] systemd-networkd not running is expected on a desktop [00:22] there you go tomreyn [00:22] ? [00:23] Hi, I've installed Cockpit (a web GUI to manage machines, such as headless servers) and now I want to remove it. But after I remove the package 'cockpit' and stop the service and reboot, I can still enable the service with a systemctl command. [00:23] So how do I completely remove this package from my system, as if it were never installed? would apt [...] --purge help here? [00:24] One comment on GitHub suggests the following: sudo apt-get autoremove cockpit --purge [00:24] soft_concrete: I'd suggest sudo dpkg --purge cockpit [00:24] good night. [00:24] sudo systemctl stop cockpit && sudo apt purge cockpit [00:25] pavlos: why not apt, or apt-get? [00:25] tomreyn: g'night [00:25] I'm used to Arch, which just has the pacman command for managing packages [00:25] good night [00:26] soft_concrete: I prefer dpkg, personal pref [00:26] oh .. this is ubuntu support. [00:26] apt is the new apt-get, superiour in dfixing dependencies like aptitude once was. [00:27] tomreyn unfortunately looks like Virtualbox still froze I disable ufw on the host and on the vm, though it took a while. One thing I noticed is that when I open a lot of network intensive apps in the vm thats when probability for freezing seems to increase. === soft_concrete is now known as anony_mous === anony_mous is now known as soft_concrete [00:36] nmcli cannot add connection becasue device lo not available because device is unmanaged [00:36] i am so lost again [00:41] theteju: Networking is not my strong suit ... but ' ls -al /etc/resolv.conf ' show the symlink to /run/systemd/resolve/stub-resolv.conf ? [00:42] theteju: what's the issue you're experiencing? [00:46] brb === NickBusey5 is now known as NickBusey === jjinco is now known as jjinco33 [01:21] this is ridiculuous, trying all day, changed 2 brand new ssd, i cant get ubuntu installed on two different SSD, is it me or ubuntu? https://i.imgur.com/aGT1bBV.png [01:21] Which SSDs? [01:21] It's not like it's gonna help [01:21] But I'm curious [01:22] one is SanDisk extreme Pro and one is teamgroup GX1, Both ssd works great in WINDOWS10 machine, no error [01:23] Weird. Have you validated the ubuntu image? [01:23] Are you sure it's not corrupted? [01:24] Also, what are you using to create a bootable SSD? [01:24] 100% I have gparted ISO installed on a USB too and i ran that as well [01:24] SSDs have not issues whatsoever [01:25] USB stick* [01:25] * kotek14 needs sleep === kotek14 is now known as sleep [01:26] * sleep is overrated === sleep is now known as kotek14 [01:31] jennie: What drive is sdb that frub fails on ? - show us from the installer ' sudo fdisk -lu ' so we know what we are working with. [01:31] grub* [01:32] I still think that the bootable USB stick might be broken (say you pull it before it was able to sync) [01:41] So, dumb question about trying to do a dumb thing: In ubuntu 20.04, is there a way installed by default to get right click with a mouse that doesn't have it? [01:41] ie hold a certain keyboard key and left click to generate a right click [01:43] StupidLikeAFox: https://askubuntu.com/questions/331605/simulate-right-click-in-laptop [01:43] It should have long click [01:47] kotek14 okay, i can reburn usb stick and try [01:47] I think t might be different in xubuntu or newer verision [01:47] jennie: What are you using to burn? [01:48] rufus, and i have successfully used the exact same usb flash drive to install ubuntu on 3rd ssd which still works fine but i want to chanagfe it [01:48] change* [01:48] I don't have dconf and apt couldn't find it, and I don't see a remotely similar setting in xfconf [01:48] Don't use rufus please. It causes all sorts of problems [01:48] Try Etcher [01:49] StupidLikeAFox: Are you sure you need a stock option? I mean, it's easy to do with xdotool [01:49] StupidLikeAFox: https://superuser.com/questions/550854/linux-laptop-bind-key-and-click-to-emulate-right-click [01:50] never heard of rufus causing all sorts of problems and used it myself in the past without any issue.µ [01:51] but hey... different users, different experiences [01:53] kotek14 oh i forgot, i made this usb in debian by dd terminal command [01:53] I don't quite follow why Rufus's usage was dissuaded? I never had a problem with Rufus. [01:53] hey guys, good night!!! o/ [01:53] I mean, Etcher works fine too. [01:54] kotek14: Ah, looks it is possible, but not a quick 'toggle a setting or two' then [01:54] Thanks [01:54] jennie: Did you run "sync" after that? [01:54] Was playing with an old apple mouse- it's single button [01:55] You can't yank the stick out right after dd finishes [01:55] StupidLikeAFox: Yeah, I don't think ubuntu is designed with these peripherals in mind [01:56] the proper way is to unmount the stick first, especially if you were just doing a bunch of file operations [01:56] You don't really need to unmount, just run sync and yank it once it's done [01:56] That makes sure all operations finish [01:56] tomreyn the issue I'm experiencing with virtualbox is eerily similar to this ticket: https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/20024 But it's for Ubuntu 20.04 and virtualbox 6.1.16 with kernel 5.8.36 [01:57] kotek14: yeah, I'm not sure if ubuntu was extant yet when this mouse was made [01:58] Hi everyone, trying to install a newer version of qemu. I have enabled focal-backports (which I'm new to), but when I try to install qemu/focal-backports, there's no release found for it. What might I be doing wrong? [02:00] strixdio: What is your distro version? [02:00] 20.04 [02:02] strixdio: Which version of QEMU do you already have and which one are you trying to get? [02:03] QEMU emulator version 4.2.1 (Debian 1:4.2-3ubuntu6.10) and I'm trying to get the "latest" version (doesn't have to be bleeding edge, just something that doesn't have this virtio NIC bug) [02:04] You can always grab one from github and build it from source [02:05] I believe it has 5.2.0 [02:07] okay. [02:11] strixdio: Also I believe focal-backports doesn't have qemu https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal-backports/allpackages === zbenjamin is now known as Guest30176 === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [02:16] kotek14 thanks so much, you think like a scientist [02:16] and an engineer <3 <3 [02:16] jennie: YOu're welcome. Did it fix it? [02:17] yes, it was usb stick issue [02:17] kotek14 when building it from source, how do I install it? [02:17] Great! Good luuck with your ubuntu adventures! [02:17] strixdio: make install probably? [02:17] looking on here: https://wiki.qemu.org/Hosts/Linux [02:18] strixdio: You can also try this PPA. It has some other tools too https://launchpad.net/%7Ejacob/+archive/ubuntu/virtualisation?field.series_filter=focal [02:18] kotek14 how come the usb went bad? [02:18] I literally hate PPAs [02:18] strixdio: #metoo [02:18] I'm afraid to break my whole system if I make install [02:18] jennie: Are you sure the device itself went bad? [02:19] strixdio: You'll be fine. If you're worried, make a backup [02:19] kotek14 I reburned usb and installation worked perfectly on same ssd which was giving error earlier [02:20] :D it's just the "time spent" thing [02:20] jennie: So basically dd said it finished but some files were still in progress of writing [02:20] but why and why it happened at first place [02:20] jennie: And when you removed the stick you ended up with partially written files [02:20] Or missing files [02:21] That's why I always run "sync" after dd finishes. That ensures that everything is written correctly. [02:22] Also you can read /proc/meminfo while writing a USB stick. The "Dirty:" line gives you a rough estimate your progress [02:22] of* [02:23] i dont remember pulling it out [02:24] I need to install windows on my machine that currently has ubuntu 20.0 -- what will I have to do to get grub back after? run a live usb ? [02:25] frib: Yes [02:25] and in particular run what? [02:25] update-grub/ [02:25] ? [02:25] grub install? [02:27] frib, you may need to chroot into your existing install and then do grub install. Been a while since I did something like that. Looked up any guides for reference? [02:27] There is also an automatic tool for repairing boot [02:28] boot repair right [02:28] I think that's the one. Worked for me before. [02:28] ok [02:28] Yes, just checked. It's the one [02:30] also here is a guide https://www.techsolveprac.com/install-windows-after-ubuntu-dual/ [02:31] never used this site though so I am not claiming 100% it is correct, but at a glance it looks fine [02:51] kotek14 so, I built it, but when I think it's getting blocked by apparmor [02:54] I made a backup of the original file, moved the new file there, and it was complaining about the video mode. I think I have to play with this a bit. [03:06] how to find logical name of ethernet adapter [03:14] theteju: ' ip a ' will give the device name. [03:16] it only reads loopback [03:17] there are no informationabout eth0 in my /etc/network/interfaces [03:17] theteju: Ouch - ' sudo lshw -C network ' the config line show a driver ? [03:17] although lshw -C network list the device [03:18] yes. [03:18] 10ec:8168 [03:19] Humm ;; my ip -a >> " 2: enp1s9: mtu 1500 qdisc fq_codel" where my device is enp1s9 . [03:20] is this a usb dongle? [03:20] NO its a motherboard NIC [03:21] I also have another PCI NIC and a usb dongle [03:21] nothing gets detected by network manager [03:21] lspci should show Network [03:22] yes my Ethernet controller is REalTek RTL8168 [03:27] is network enabled in the BIOS? the onboard nic should be seen in the lspci output [03:27] yes it is visible on lspci output [03:28] could you paste some info ... I dont want to ask 20 questions [03:28] network works when I go into ubuntu recovery and select older kernel [03:29] ubuntu 20.04 ... uname -a [03:30] nmcli device show : only sees loopback lspci : rlt 8168, Kubuntu 20.04.1 5.8.0-35-generic [03:31] lshw -C network shows "UNCLAIMED" ethernet controller [03:34] my guess is I need to add eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces in order for nmcli to see it [03:35] but now it seems there is /etc/network/interfaces.d [03:35] where I should create a file for ifup and ifdown to see it. [03:36] as my interfaces.d is empty [03:36] do i make sense guys? [03:42] I booted a kubuntu, there is no /etc/network/interfaces file [03:42] lshw -C network [03:42] sorry [03:45] @pavlos i booted on older kernel again and network is up [03:46] it works on 5.4.0 [03:49] the logical name for ethernet card is enp3s0 [03:50] something broken my updated kernel due to power outage [03:51] does ethtool enp3s0 give you info? [03:51] yes [03:53] very lost [03:56] you can remove the 5.8 kernel and stay with the 5.4 that works [03:57] make sense. fact is 5.8 was working just fine like i said,, its just improper shut down due to power outage and I am pulling my hairs [03:57] I really do not know how to remove kernel [04:00] paste the output of dpkg -l | grep "5.8.0-35" [04:01] probably 5 lines [04:02] @pavlos i found 5.8.0- 34 and 36 on my system. [04:02] can i --purge both and then update grub? [04:02] or should I purge one by one and update grub each time? [04:03] purge each kernel, make sure they are gone from (ll /boot), then sudo update-grub (which will list valid kernels) [04:04] sudo apt update [04:04] sorry [05:43] Hello virtualbox is not working after I updated, and it tells me to reinstall virtualbox-dkms [05:43] how do I reinstall something? Do I just remove & install it? [05:46] p0a: can't you just do a 'dpkg-reconfigure virtualbox-dkms' ? [05:50] Tabmow: maybe that works! I am going to try it [05:50] it didn't work [05:50] I'm reading the logs [05:52] The module build returned an error [05:54] What did you update? Ubuntu? [05:54] ah, there's a bug with kernel 5.8 and vbox 6.1.10, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virtualbox/+bug/1891916 [05:54] Launchpad bug 1891916 in virtualbox (Ubuntu) "virtualbox-dkms 6.1.10-dfsg-1~ubuntu1.20.04.1 fails to build with kernel 5.8" [Undecided,Won't fix] [05:54] I just need to install a newer release of vbox [05:54] Time to downgrade :P [05:55] Tabmow: or upgrade from other repos [05:59] p0a I'm using 6.1.16 for virtualbox, I read that you need at least 6.1.14 for anything >= 5.8 [06:07] nmatrix: thank you, I followed the guide in https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads for Debian-based distros [06:07] and now it wrosk [06:07] works * [06:07] p0a do you use bridged networking for your vms? [06:08] Why do you ask? [06:09] I don't know what bridged networking and vms are. (do you mean VMs?) [06:12] p0a I'm having an issue with "VMs" on Ubuntu 20.04 on a bridged adapter for the VM the entire host freezes after a few minutes. It's extremely frustrating to say the least. [08:26] Hey all, im trying to diagnose LACP with my ubuntu machine, not sure what my issue is. Not used to netplan but i think i did it correctly [08:27] cant copy and paste from kvm so heres a screenshot https://kitsunehosting.net/nextcloud/index.php/s/SR6oeyppgEkrJ9b/preview [08:27] anything glaring? [08:29] heres a config that works for my switch but for debian made in the more unix traditional style https://termbin.com/9d9r [08:33] is this skipping in --debug bad? https://kitsunehosting.net/nextcloud/index.php/s/YJfKsPsNkGTJmfT/preview [08:34] Hey there! [08:34] Hey ;3 [08:34] I have just realized that that the keyboard layout that ships with ubuntu and derivatives for my language is wrong. [08:34] I have the correct layouts [08:34] Where do I submit those? [08:35] Ideally, I would like to submit it to all the distros. Esp. Debian. That way, perhaps everyone else will follow suit. [08:35] maybe in here? http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ [08:35] not sure if thats part of ubuntu [08:35] or the kernel [08:36] But perhaps I need to write an email to maintainers or sth? [08:36] ubuntu uses the same kernel im pretty sure, but im not sure if it really inherits much live from debian [08:36] prolly can make a pr on the linux kernel [08:36] keyboard layouts sounds like a linux thing [08:36] idk for sure :c im a bsd guy [08:38] have you ever used netplan peanutbutterandc? [08:38] kenwoodfox, No wonder you think everything is in the kernel. I heard that bsd's kernel is very closely tied to gcc and stuff or sth.... no sir... neplan... what is it? [08:39] How can I make so that when I hold ALT+MOUSE1 I can move Windows around on a default Ubuntu 20 (gnome?), this behaviour is in lxqt/OpenBox and I like it, maybe there is something for gnome [08:39] ALT+MOUSE2 = resize window [08:39] peanutbutterandc: gcc? no? [08:40] kenwoodfox, I would like to take a stab at bsds. Which one do you recommend? [08:40] peanutbutterandc: but i guess in general yeah. A lot of things are built into bsd differently than the way they might be done in linux === khfeng_ is now known as khfeng [08:40] peanutbutterandc: go classic, freebsd is still my fav [08:40] but i have been enjoying playing with nomadbsd [08:40] anyway, netplan is like.. a weird thing ive only seen ubuntu use [08:40] for managing the network [08:41] i cant get it to work for me XD [08:41] https://kitsunehosting.net/nextcloud/index.php/s/P32gSr42MRDFcr3/preview [08:41] Hmmm.... nomadbsd seems a bit friendlier [08:41] I'll try nomadbsd then. Thank you very much [08:41] what should i expect, btw? [08:42] Nomad is pretty cute~ it comes with a lot of fluff pre-installed though so watch out. you may have a bunch of things you dident install yourself included already [08:42] expect? [08:42] !discuss [08:42] Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks! [08:42] Think linux, but angry and old ##ubuntu-offtopic [08:42] or, that one that the bot said [08:42] how to enable hdmi audio? [08:42] idk never been there [08:43] #ubuntu-offtopic [08:43] sry, :#ubuntu-offtopic [08:43] done yet? [08:43] Maik: Do you have any experince with netplan by any chance? [08:43] nope [08:44] but google has an answer maybe [08:44] Interesting, i thought ubuntu needed to use it. seems like not a lot of people do? [08:44] or whatever search engine [08:44] Maik: Yeah thats what ive been doing the past few hours [08:44] yeah, either engine [08:44] anyway, no big hits [08:44] a few tips tho [08:44] and i have all the docs ope [08:44] seems --debug is the only debug option? [08:44] im not getting enough info back :c [08:44] i still dont know whats wrong [08:46] kenwoodfox, sorry I went elsewhere. Hmmm.... is there a bsd channel that you hang out on I could jump in there [08:47] Yeah for sure, and #ubuntu-offtopic, i hang around in #freebsd and #freebsd-social [08:49] still cant ping anything, or see nameserers [08:49] everything is UP and LOWER UP tho [08:50] !netplan [08:50] Netplan is a network configuration abstraction renderer which uses YAML descriptions of a network to work with either a NetworkManager or Systemd-networkd "renderer". More information at https://netplan.io/ [08:51] hmmm [08:51] And you've not heard of it? [08:51] so interesting [08:52] i thought it was ubuntu standard sorta recently [08:52] if there is an option to ditch it id love to hear it [08:52] i dont mind traditional unix configuration for this setting [08:57] kenwoodfox: unless you've changed it since pasting, you've got different hash policies [08:58] kenwoodfox: for ifupdown you've got "bond-xmit-hash-policy layer2+3" but for netplan/systemd-networkd you've got "transmit-hash-policy: layer2" [08:58] TJ-: Oh interesting, let me try that i did not even notice [08:59] Hm, no dice? https://kitsunehosting.net/nextcloud/index.php/s/sJxodyXEPwDzoSR/preview [09:00] kenwoodfox: I wonder if this a netplan deficiency [09:01] TJ-: Oh dear :/ [09:01] is there some way i could just not use netplan? [09:01] and modify /etc/interfaces myself? [09:02] And you've not heard of it? --> you asked if i have experience with it NOT if i heard of it [09:02] Oh sorry, you querried the bot for a snippit and i figured you were performing an inital search for what i was talki ng about [09:04] kenwoodfox: "man systemd.netdev" shows TransmitHashPolicy has the option "layer2+3" - netplan is supposed to write that for systemd-networkd - so this could be a netplan bug. Personally, unless things are likely to dynamically change or I'm configuring here-today,gone-tomorrow containers or VMs, I avoid netplan like the plague and just write standard systemd-networkd configs to [09:04] /etc/systemd/network/ [09:05] TJ-: im not familer with systemd-networkd either but, if this looks like a bug id be happy to switch away from netplan [09:05] man i am way too isolated in BSD world XD [09:05] do i need to disable netplan/cloud-init? [09:05] kenwoodfox: trick: all netplan does it write a runtime config for systemd-networkd. runtime configs are under /run/ (a tmpfs) so look in /run/systemd/network/ for the file generated by netplan. copy it to /etc/systemd/network/ and edit it :) [09:06] kenwoodfox: then simply remove the netplan config files completely, or disable it :) [09:06] how can i start the gui from the cli? [09:06] ws2k3: "sudo systemctl start display-manager.service" [09:07] Ok lets try that TJ- ;3 and thanks so much for the help [09:08] https://kitsunehosting.net/nextcloud/index.php/s/825pyqCx6ZT4Rpj/preview [09:08] cant cat those files tho hm [09:08] oh wait [09:08] I can sorry~ :3 [09:09] kenwoodfox: according to the netplan man-page "transmit-hash-policy (scalar)" does support the option "layer2+3" so maybe you had some syntax error in the YAML file? [09:09] Hm, let me just try it again [09:10] i used bond-xmit-hash-policy, like from my ifupdown config [09:10] maybe thats not the wording netplan needs? [09:13] https://kitsunehosting.net/nextcloud/index.php/s/6WPk74e2gwqDLyf/preview [09:14] how to enable hdmi audio output [09:14] google? [09:15] kenwoodfox: yes, you used the ifupdown statement, not the the correct one you had originally. "transmit-hash-policy: layer2+3" [09:15] TJ-: the ifupdown2 is a configuration from another host that works with my switch fine [09:15] kenwoodfox: yes, but ifupdown has *different syntax* [09:16] TJ-: I get that, so its the same policy both times then? :c [09:16] kenwoodfox: your original netplan file was correct but had the wrong hash type sepcified; "transmit-hash-policy: layer2" should have been "transmit-hash-policy: layer2+3" [09:17] in hdmi display, it only showing 640*480 [09:17] kenwoodfox: key=value, key was correct :) [09:17] value was not? [09:18] kenwoodfox: should have been "layer2+3" not "layer2" [09:18] YAML is just a poor way of writing key=value expressions (key: value) [09:22] I have an issue with building vbox kernel modules with the 5.8 kernel on 20.04: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rK2wgWxgJk/ [09:22] ThinkT511: known issue(s) but I don't have the bug number to hand [09:23] ThinkT511: several out-of-tree kernel modules have been affected, nvidia, brcm, vbox [09:24] I guess it's just a matter of waiting for an update then. I'm glad its known. Thanks. [09:25] Sorry for DC, did i miss anything TJ-? [09:27] kenwoodfox_: not that I know of [09:28] TJ-: Ok, so ill leave the netplan the same then? [09:28] TJ-: im back to square one :c [09:28] what else can test? [09:28] kenwoodfox_: what does the netplan config look like right now? does it specify "transmit-hash-policy: layer2+3" [09:29] TJ-: here it is https://kitsunehosting.net/nextcloud/index.php/s/HQdGYikmWSXdEyo/preview [09:37] kenwoodfox_: the only thing that occurs to me is that ifupdown and systemd-networkd differ in the default AD select mode (keys ad-select/AdSelect - netplan/networkd) (values: stable/bandwidth/count) [09:38] kenwoodfox_: which mode is the switch using? [09:39] kenwoodfox_: I've had 802.3ad LACP bandwidth bonds using systemd-networkd running for several years so this is unlikely a problem with systemd-networkd itself, but a config mismatch [09:40] TJ-: Im not entirely sure what the switch is using for AdSelect [09:42] kenwoodfox_: well, you can easily test since there are only 3 options :) try each one in turn [09:42] TJ-: Sorry for being dumb~ thats ad-select: stable/bandwidth/count ? [09:42] in netplan that means "ad-select: " with 'stable' then 'bandwidth' then 'count' [09:43] ok, [09:44] kenwoodfox_: also, due to how netplan and systemd-networkd will interact, ensure that the new config is actually being used by networkd by restarting it (systemctl restart systemd-networkd) - otherwise you could be changing the netplan config but it not being propagated) [09:44] kenwoodfox_: this is why I prefer not having netplan in the loop [09:45] Oh, ok ill do that too TJ- [09:49] well, none of that seemed to work TJ- :c [09:49] feeling pretty tired, maybe i should come back to this in the morning === Mysia-irccloud is now known as Mysia === khfeng_ is now known as khfeng === jaziz1 is now known as jaziz [11:02] hi [11:03] what software can show video from v4l2 devices? [11:09] neure: vlc should be able to do it [11:21] howdy yall- I am trying to build a simple Ubuntu application in C++ and was wondering if anyone knew of a good resource to turn to- I was following along with the GNOME tools but theres issues of the applications being out of date in the documentation [11:21] very specific question I know but if anyone can point me in the right direction I would appreciate thanks! [11:22] just found they have an IRC blah no issues [12:10] I am trying to revert to using the Xorg display driver but am being hit with this error https://ibb.co/Kxv4TXp [12:16] giving this a try https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-uninstall-the-nvidia-drivers-on-ubuntu-20-04-focal-fossa-linux [12:23] that article did the trick [12:29] is 5.8.0-36-generic compatible with virtualbox driver? [12:30] I have problems with the vbox driver in ubuntu [12:30] does Nouveau use more battery and have less performance, or it's ok now ? [12:35] Morning. The mysql-server package has gotten in a broken state, and so far trying to install, reinstall, and purge fails. It also causes upgrade to error out. It there any way to tell apt to "remove it, and ignore pre and post script errors?" [12:36] Using Ubunto 20.04. [12:36] Ubuntu [12:36] Hello guys. Struggling with world clocks on Ubuntu 20, Gnome 3. I have added additional timezone but it stills doesn't appear when I click on time in top bar [12:46] what is the best way to generate a fresh clean xorg config? [12:47] I just installed 20.04 and mysql doesn't seem to work right out of the box. I can't login as root on the terminal even after running and re-running mysql_secure_installation. Does someone have a up to date guide on how to get it running? [12:48] https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-mysql-on-ubuntu-20-04 [12:48] I was following this but the steps do not work for me [12:50] hi [12:54] shouldn't /etc/X11/xorg.conf exist in 20.04? [12:55] i haven't written xorg.conf since 5+ years [12:55] but X -configure creates one if you really want [12:56] tarzeau: so what replaced it? [12:56] is there any way to reset the display settings to defaults? [12:57] zetheroo: it's zeroconf/automatic [12:58] zetheroo: maybe it's easier if you tell what your problem is? [13:00] tarzeau: I reverted to the Xorg driver from the Nvidia 460 driver, and now when I boot the laptop (Thinkpad P14s) while docked the USB ports on the dock don't work and the displays (3 x External) are not working (no image/blinking/flashing blue...) and when I undock the laptop the image on the laptop screen is jittery and glitching. The laptop works fine if booted off the dock. [13:00] and that's with 20.04? [13:01] But originally, when I first installed 20.04 on this laptop, the Xorg driver was what I was using and it was working fine. [13:01] yes, 20.04 [13:01] dunno really i have 200 linux workstations and they all work. not using docks though, either always plugged in screens (1..3) no detaching/attaching while running [13:01] and i'm not using ubuntu nvidia drviers, but nvidia nvidia drivers (nvidia cuda.(sources)list) [13:02] works for me. if i need a laptop, i'm using one from www.next.com [13:02] what, an Apple? [13:02] what i can tell though is, using nvidia binary drivers, x won't start without a screen attached/powered [13:03] zetheroo: sure. and i've also been running openstep 4.2 on real hardware post 2000 [13:03] k ... well I'm not getting an Apple :D [13:03] now that they quit that intel mess, i'm all for it! [13:03] zetheroo: don't, what if asahilinux has linux running on the m1? [13:04] I'll try switch to the Nvidia driver again and see if it solves the issues ... (aren't the Nvidia drivers in the Ubuntu repo the official Nvidia drivers?) [13:04] zetheroo: yes, with a delay/lag. nvidia has the newer/better ones imho [13:05] zetheroo: besides that, i have users that want cuda, cudnn and some stuff canonical does not deliver, and in multiple versions at the same time, on multiuser multi gpu machines [13:05] ok [13:05] will try directly from Nvidia this time [13:05] their package deps and nvtop also plays well with distro release versions mixed up, in parallel [13:07]