[17:46] <wonko> Dammit, 20.10 doesn't seem to have actually solved the problem.
[18:06] <Eickmeyer> wonko: Definitely an Ubuntu issue, not specific to Studio.
[18:06] <Eickmeyer> Though, I've had no issue on a ryzen machine I own.
[18:26] <wonko> audio has gotten weird since the upgrade to 20.10. Wasn't a smooth upgrade. Any known issues on the studio side for that?
[18:27] <Souler> Hi
[18:27] <Souler> I have been an active Linux user for a long time, but only recently came across pipewire. Can you explain to me in a few sentences how it works? I have an audio interface for the Focusrite Saffire Pro 14 firewire and I will connect it using a Thunderbolt adapter. I had big problems with the configuration. Until today I am not sure whether to use the snd_dice or the firewire_ohci modules. Can you explain to me how it will work? I
[18:27] <Souler> am using Debian Buster 10 with 5.10 rt kernel, Bitwig Studio 3. I would like to get the best possible performance. How should I configure my computer?
[18:42] <OvenWerks> Souler: pipewire is coming but not really there yet
[18:43] <OvenWerks> Souler: pipewire is meant to take the place of pulseaudio and jack. It is similar to using JACK with a pulse front end
[18:44] <OvenWerks> Souler: that is: jack clients will see pipewire and a JACK server and desktop applications will see pipewire as the default alsa device or pulse depending on what they look for.
[18:44] <OvenWerks> Souler: it is not really ready for daily use yet. But development is active.
[18:45] <OvenWerks> and it does aready work reasonably well with what functionallity it already has.
[18:47] <OvenWerks> As for fw devices on buster, I can't really say. Ubuntustudio does not equal buster after all. I do not know which module set the debian RT kernel comes with.
[18:49] <OvenWerks> My Audiofire 12 works fine with either the ALSA firewire modules or the FFADO set that the ubuntu lowlatency kernel comes with.
[19:13] <wonko> does pipewire look like it'll be a good tool? Not having to setup all those pulseaudio bridges sure would be nice. :-D
[19:13] <OvenWerks> wonko: It does look nice.
[19:13] <OvenWerks> desktop applications will appear as jack clients
[19:14] <OvenWerks> I do not know if it is possible to set a default desktop client though
[19:16] <OvenWerks> many desktop apps (almost all?) only open audio "devices" when they need them. This makes setting up a jack based routing a pain unless it is automated
[19:53] <wonko> yeah, that's true.
[19:53] <chip_luxury_ewa[> Hi everyone!
[19:54] <chip_luxury_ewa[> anyone using sonic-pi?
[19:55] <chip_luxury_ewa[> tried to install deb file from robin newman, the loading screen is showing and then i get a boot error
[19:56] <chip_luxury_ewa[> https://pastebin.com/Yq1E2CCc
[20:03] <OvenWerks> chip_luxury_ewa[: how is this related to ubuntustudio?
[20:08] <chip_luxury_ewa[> cause i'm trying to install it in ubuntu studio
[20:09] <OvenWerks> it + ?
[20:09] <OvenWerks> sorry it =?
[20:09] <chip_luxury_ewa[> In ubuntu it works fine when qjackctl is runing
[20:09] <chip_luxury_ewa[> thet
[20:09] <chip_luxury_ewa[> sonic pi
[20:10] <OvenWerks> sonic-pi is hardware?
[20:10] <chip_luxury_ewa[> sonic pi is a software, ruby ide for making music
[20:11] <OvenWerks> ok, I guess I was fooled by the "pi"
[20:12] <chip_luxury_ewa[> well you not, it have an offical support for raspberry pi
[20:12] <chip_luxury_ewa[> in raspbrian
[20:14] <chip_luxury_ewa[> if have some mistake in my English please correct me if it necessary
[20:16] <OvenWerks> so are you using this on a pi or a desktop?
[20:16] <OvenWerks> that is what hardware are you using this on?
[20:16] <chip_luxury_ewa[> lenovo ideapad i7
[20:17] <chip_luxury_ewa[> laptop
[20:17] <chip_luxury_ewa[> 8gb ram
[20:17] <chip_luxury_ewa[> ssd
[20:17] <OvenWerks> so you have cloned the src code and built it?
[20:18] <chip_luxury_ewa[> I'm kinda newbe... download deb file
[20:18] <chip_luxury_ewa[> https://in-thread.sonic-pi.net/t/sonic-pi-3-2-2-deb-file-for-ubuntu-20-04/3762/8
[20:19] <chip_luxury_ewa[> this is the log:
[20:19] <chip_luxury_ewa[> https://pastebin.com/Yq1E2CCc
[20:20] <OvenWerks> So you installed sonic pi from the ubuntu repo?
[20:21] <OvenWerks> That log might mean more to a sonic pi dev than here
[20:21] <OvenWerks> it assumes knowlage of sonic pi internals
[20:22] <chip_luxury_ewa[> not from the repo because the version in software center is 2.1... and the newer is 3.2.2
[20:23] <OvenWerks> I note that https://github.com/sonic-pi-net/sonic-pi/blob/main/BUILD-LINUX.md says: "Note: Sonic Pi for Linux isn't currently officially supported"
[20:23] <OvenWerks> I suspect that finding support for this problem will be difficult
[20:24] <OvenWerks> The report in the forum you posted above that sugested sonic pi works in ubuntustudio was probably for the package in the ubuntu repo
[20:25] <OvenWerks> certain;ly using a package that was built for a different set of libs or architecture is unlikely to work.
[20:27] <OvenWerks> I would suggest that building sonic pi for whatever you have installed is more likely to work.
[20:29] <chip_luxury_ewa[> I think I tried this in the past but i will try again tomorrow...
[20:30] <chip_luxury_ewa[> it will be very nice if sonic pi come pre-installed in ubuntu studio
[20:31] <chip_luxury_ewa[> when i succeed I'll post a tutorial
[20:33] <chip_luxury_ewa[> oven where are you from?
[20:33] <OvenWerks> british columbia
[20:35] <OvenWerks> if sonic pi was to come with ubuntustudio, it would be the version in the ubuntu repos, not the latest version for sure.
[20:35] <chip_luxury_ewa[> Hi from israel (:
[20:35] <OvenWerks> o/
[20:35] <OvenWerks> so your evening is my noon.
[20:35] <chip_luxury_ewa[> it was nice chatting, thanks for the help!
[20:35] <OvenWerks> no problem
[20:36] <chip_luxury_ewa[> yes it 22:30 right now
[20:36] <chip_luxury_ewa[> good night (;
[22:14] <wonko> chip_luxury_ewa[: do you have scsynth installed?
[22:34] <Eickmeyer> wonko: You *upgraded* to 20.10?
[22:34] <Eickmeyer> !ubuntustudio-upgrades
[22:34] <Eickmeyer> Ok, that's not a thing.
[22:34] <Eickmeyer> Upgrading to 20.10 is *not* supported.
[22:34] <Eickmeyer> Release notes.