[17:46] Dammit, 20.10 doesn't seem to have actually solved the problem. [18:06] wonko: Definitely an Ubuntu issue, not specific to Studio. [18:06] Though, I've had no issue on a ryzen machine I own. [18:26] audio has gotten weird since the upgrade to 20.10. Wasn't a smooth upgrade. Any known issues on the studio side for that? [18:27] Hi [18:27] I have been an active Linux user for a long time, but only recently came across pipewire. Can you explain to me in a few sentences how it works? I have an audio interface for the Focusrite Saffire Pro 14 firewire and I will connect it using a Thunderbolt adapter. I had big problems with the configuration. Until today I am not sure whether to use the snd_dice or the firewire_ohci modules. Can you explain to me how it will work? I [18:27] am using Debian Buster 10 with 5.10 rt kernel, Bitwig Studio 3. I would like to get the best possible performance. How should I configure my computer? [18:42] Souler: pipewire is coming but not really there yet [18:43] Souler: pipewire is meant to take the place of pulseaudio and jack. It is similar to using JACK with a pulse front end [18:44] Souler: that is: jack clients will see pipewire and a JACK server and desktop applications will see pipewire as the default alsa device or pulse depending on what they look for. [18:44] Souler: it is not really ready for daily use yet. But development is active. [18:45] and it does aready work reasonably well with what functionallity it already has. [18:47] As for fw devices on buster, I can't really say. Ubuntustudio does not equal buster after all. I do not know which module set the debian RT kernel comes with. [18:49] My Audiofire 12 works fine with either the ALSA firewire modules or the FFADO set that the ubuntu lowlatency kernel comes with. [19:13] does pipewire look like it'll be a good tool? Not having to setup all those pulseaudio bridges sure would be nice. :-D [19:13] wonko: It does look nice. [19:13] desktop applications will appear as jack clients [19:14] I do not know if it is possible to set a default desktop client though [19:16] many desktop apps (almost all?) only open audio "devices" when they need them. This makes setting up a jack based routing a pain unless it is automated [19:53] yeah, that's true. [19:53] Hi everyone! [19:54] anyone using sonic-pi? [19:55] tried to install deb file from robin newman, the loading screen is showing and then i get a boot error [19:56] https://pastebin.com/Yq1E2CCc [20:03] chip_luxury_ewa[: how is this related to ubuntustudio? [20:08] cause i'm trying to install it in ubuntu studio [20:09] it + ? [20:09] sorry it =? [20:09] In ubuntu it works fine when qjackctl is runing [20:09] thet [20:09] sonic pi [20:10] sonic-pi is hardware? [20:10] sonic pi is a software, ruby ide for making music [20:11] ok, I guess I was fooled by the "pi" [20:12] well you not, it have an offical support for raspberry pi [20:12] in raspbrian [20:14] if have some mistake in my English please correct me if it necessary [20:16] so are you using this on a pi or a desktop? [20:16] that is what hardware are you using this on? [20:16] lenovo ideapad i7 [20:17] laptop [20:17] 8gb ram [20:17] ssd [20:17] so you have cloned the src code and built it? [20:18] I'm kinda newbe... download deb file [20:18] https://in-thread.sonic-pi.net/t/sonic-pi-3-2-2-deb-file-for-ubuntu-20-04/3762/8 [20:19] this is the log: [20:19] https://pastebin.com/Yq1E2CCc [20:20] So you installed sonic pi from the ubuntu repo? [20:21] That log might mean more to a sonic pi dev than here [20:21] it assumes knowlage of sonic pi internals [20:22] not from the repo because the version in software center is 2.1... and the newer is 3.2.2 [20:23] I note that https://github.com/sonic-pi-net/sonic-pi/blob/main/BUILD-LINUX.md says: "Note: Sonic Pi for Linux isn't currently officially supported" [20:23] I suspect that finding support for this problem will be difficult [20:24] The report in the forum you posted above that sugested sonic pi works in ubuntustudio was probably for the package in the ubuntu repo [20:25] certain;ly using a package that was built for a different set of libs or architecture is unlikely to work. [20:27] I would suggest that building sonic pi for whatever you have installed is more likely to work. [20:29] I think I tried this in the past but i will try again tomorrow... [20:30] it will be very nice if sonic pi come pre-installed in ubuntu studio [20:31] when i succeed I'll post a tutorial [20:33] oven where are you from? [20:33] british columbia [20:35] if sonic pi was to come with ubuntustudio, it would be the version in the ubuntu repos, not the latest version for sure. [20:35] Hi from israel (: [20:35] o/ [20:35] so your evening is my noon. [20:35] it was nice chatting, thanks for the help! [20:35] no problem [20:36] yes it 22:30 right now [20:36] good night (; [22:14] chip_luxury_ewa[: do you have scsynth installed? [22:34] wonko: You *upgraded* to 20.10? [22:34] !ubuntustudio-upgrades [22:34] Ok, that's not a thing. [22:34] Upgrading to 20.10 is *not* supported. [22:34] Release notes.