| callmepk | good morning | 03:49 |
|---|---|---|
| duflu | Morning callmepk | 03:53 |
| callmepk | morning duflu | 04:03 |
| duflu | Also good afternoon callmepk | 05:49 |
| * duflu assumes you're still in HK | 05:49 | |
| * callmepk is still in HK | 05:51 | |
| jibel | Good morning | 05:54 |
| callmepk | morning jibel | 05:57 |
| jibel | Hi callmepk | 06:01 |
| duflu | Morning jibel | 06:05 |
| jibel | Hi duflu | 06:15 |
| seb128 | goood morning desktopers | 06:28 |
| duflu | Morning seb128 | 06:30 |
| duflu | How goes? | 06:30 |
| seb128 | hey duflu! I'm doing alright ... you? | 06:30 |
| duflu | seb128, pretty good | 06:30 |
| seb128 | great :-) | 06:30 |
| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers | 07:11 |
| duflu | Morning oSoMoN | 07:12 |
| oSoMoN | hey duflu | 07:15 |
| didrocks | good morning | 07:21 |
| oSoMoN | salut didrocks | 07:21 |
| didrocks | salut oSoMoN, ça va ? | 07:22 |
| oSoMoN | bien, et toi? | 07:24 |
| didrocks | ça va bien, un peu frisquet ici :) | 07:27 |
| oSoMoN | pareil, on est dans le négatif toutes les nuits | 07:29 |
| didrocks | il neige et ça tient ! Pour la troisième fois de l’année, ça change du centre ville de Lyon :p | 07:29 |
| jibel | Salut didrocks oSoMoN | 07:30 |
| didrocks | hey jibel | 07:31 |
| oSoMoN | salut jibel | 07:33 |
| marcustomlinson | morning callmepk duflu jibel seb000 oSoMoN didrocks | 08:42 |
| duflu | Hi marcustomlinson | 08:42 |
| didrocks | hey marcustomlinson, duflu | 08:42 |
| duflu | Morning didrocks | 08:46 |
| Laney | \_o_/ | 09:01 |
| duflu | Hi Laney | 09:02 |
| Laney | yoflu | 09:02 |
| marcustomlinson | Lahey! | 09:21 |
| seb128 | hey again there | 09:22 |
| marcustomlinson | hey seb128 | 09:23 |
| seb128 | didrocks, sorry forgot to reply yesterday but subscribing the team to that source is ok I guess | 09:23 |
| didrocks | seb128: mind doing it and commenting on the MIR? THanks | 09:23 |
| didrocks | hey Laney | 09:23 |
| callmepk | hi seb128 oSoMoN didrocks Laney marcustomlinson | 09:37 |
| didrocks | hey callmepk | 09:41 |
| seb128 | didrocks, commented and subscribed | 09:43 |
| didrocks | thx! | 09:43 |
| jibel | Laney, when you have some time can you have a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~mfo/ubiquity/+git/ubiquity/+merge/390637 | 12:51 |
| jibel | I'd like your opinion | 12:51 |
| Laney | yeah | 12:52 |
| Laney | I tried to think about it the other day and couldn't get engaged properly | 12:52 |
| Laney | but I'll try again, thanks | 12:52 |
| hellsworth | good morning desktopers | 14:29 |
| kenvandine | good morning | 14:29 |
| hellsworth | hey there ken :) | 14:30 |
| seb128 | hey there, let's see if I remember how those things are working! | 14:30 |
| seb128 | #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2021-01-12 | 14:30 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Tue Jan 12 14:30:54 2021 UTC. The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 14:30 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 14:30 |
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| didrocks999 | hey! | 14:31 |
| seb128 | Roll call: didrocks, duflu, hellsworth, jamesh, jibel, kenvandine, Laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, tkamppeter, Trevinho, robert_ancell, callmepk | 14:31 |
| kenvandine | o/ | 14:31 |
| hellsworth | \o | 14:31 |
| marcustomlinson | \o | 14:31 |
| Laney | \o| | 14:32 |
| seb128 | k, let's get started :-) | 14:32 |
| seb128 | #topic rls-bb-bug | 14:32 |
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| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html | 14:32 |
| seb128 | no desktop section | 14:32 |
| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html | 14:32 |
| seb128 | no unassigned one | 14:33 |
| seb128 | #topic rls-ff-bug | 14:33 |
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| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html | 14:33 |
| seb128 | bug #1910838 , I tagged it since it claims to be a regression | 14:34 |
| ubot5 | bug 1910838 in gnome-shell-extension-appindicator (Ubuntu) "stopped working after latest update" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1910838 | 14:34 |
| seb128 | could be the same as bug #1905370 | 14:34 |
| ubot5 | bug 1905370 in gnome-shell-extension-appindicator (Ubuntu) "The tray icon cannot be displayed when the Ubuntu 20.10 is turned on" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1905370 | 14:34 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, ^ do you know what's going on there? | 14:34 |
| seb128 | k, no Marco it seems | 14:36 |
| seb128 | I've asked on the bug if restarting the process helps as in the other bug | 14:36 |
| seb128 | I tagged as rls so we have an eye on it but it lacks a bit of information at the time so I propose that we wait for the details and Marco's opinion | 14:37 |
| kenvandine | probably | 14:37 |
| seb128 | let's move on then | 14:37 |
| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html | 14:37 |
| seb128 | bug #1627564 | 14:37 |
| ubot5 | bug 1627564 in debconf (Ubuntu) "Debconf crash due to assertion failure in ensure_surface_for_gicon [gtkiconhelper.c:493] (when png loader is missing/during upgrades)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1627564 | 14:37 |
| Laney | this old thing | 14:38 |
| seb128 | there is a recent comment which is interesting | 14:38 |
| seb128 | which is why it gtk was added back | 14:39 |
| seb128 | I think it's worth investigating was was described in the most recent comment | 14:39 |
| seb128 | would anyone be interested by poking at that code to see what's the issue exactly and if it's not working as intended? | 14:40 |
| seb128 | seems not | 14:42 |
| seb128 | opinion on whether we should accept for rls or maybe just trello card it? | 14:42 |
| Laney | Not sure about that proposed fix | 14:43 |
| Laney | image-missing is there in gtk as a resource, but the problem is it can't be loaded | 14:43 |
| Laney | not that it's not being found | 14:44 |
| Laney | unless there's a format which doesn't require any loader and is always available | 14:44 |
| seb128 | hum, right, that's the png loader missing | 14:44 |
| seb128 | not the icon | 14:44 |
| seb128 | you are right | 14:44 |
| Laney | anyway I can look if you want, might end up just being bounced back | 14:44 |
| Laney | but I can write that reply | 14:44 |
| seb128 | that would be great, thanks! | 14:45 |
| seb128 | k, that was the only one on this report | 14:45 |
| seb128 | #topic rls-gg-bug | 14:45 |
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| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html | 14:45 |
| seb128 | nothing to review there | 14:46 |
| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-tracking-bug-tasks.html | 14:46 |
| seb128 | the ones there are things handled needing triaging | 14:46 |
| seb128 | #topic rls-hh-bug | 14:47 |
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| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-hh-incoming-bug-tasks.html | 14:47 |
| seb128 | same story there | 14:47 |
| seb128 | I will do some cleanups after the meeting, trying to be better not lefting noise on the lists | 14:47 |
| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-hh-tracking-bug-tasks.html | 14:47 |
| seb128 | nothing unassigned | 14:48 |
| seb128 | #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages | 14:48 |
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| seb128 | https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages | 14:48 |
| seb128 | colord I remember now that Chris asked me to sponsor the fix, will do after the meeting | 14:48 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, could you check what is needed ot unblock the xorg-server update? | 14:49 |
| seb128 | Laney, do you know if the glib/tracker/armhf issue is a real one or flakyness? | 14:49 |
| Laney | I'm looking after that one | 14:49 |
| Laney | it's one of those slow under load crap tests | 14:50 |
| Laney | we should skip it for the autopkgtest, I will do that probably | 14:50 |
| tjaalton | seb128: luck | 14:50 |
| seb128 | Laney, thx | 14:50 |
| Laney | was waiting for a quiet period to retry it but people keep uploading stuff | 14:50 |
| Laney | silly people | 14:50 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, that doesn't seem to work :p | 14:50 |
| marcustomlinson | people... | 14:50 |
| seb128 | Laney, heh :-) | 14:50 |
| kenvandine | we'll all take a few days off so the tests pass :) | 14:51 |
| tjaalton | marking sonic-pi test flaky would be the next step I guess | 14:51 |
| seb128 | I will investigate the libhandy depends on glade one | 14:51 |
| Laney | or like make them not timing sensitive :( | 14:51 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, if that's what is needed... | 14:52 |
| tjaalton | kicked it again for now | 14:52 |
| seb128 | thx | 14:52 |
| seb128 | tiff/libdeflate is bug #1908502 assigned to oSoMoN | 14:53 |
| ubot5 | bug 1908502 in tiff (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libtiff5 dependency on libdeflate0" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1908502 | 14:53 |
| oSoMoN | yeah, I had missed that one but will take care of it | 14:53 |
| seb128 | thx | 14:54 |
| seb128 | qpdf/pikepdf I will poke at this one | 14:55 |
| oSoMoN | I'm working on gettext, too | 14:55 |
| seb128 | thx | 14:56 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, hplip depends on net-snmp sounds like one for you | 14:56 |
| seb128 | is anyone wanting to poke at cairo issues? | 14:56 |
| tkamppeter | seb128, what happened to HPLIP, I did not upload it for longer time? | 14:57 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, cups depends qpdf also for you | 14:57 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, unsure, that's to investigate | 14:57 |
| tkamppeter | CUPS has passed now, if it was blocking QPDF. | 14:57 |
| seb128 | ah, sorry, I misread the hints, it just needs it to migrate | 14:58 |
| seb128 | it's not a component mismatch | 14:58 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, so probably nothing to do for you, sorry for the noise | 14:58 |
| Laney | it's a net-snmp transition, I think sergiodj was handling it | 14:59 |
| seb128 | right | 14:59 |
| seb128 | other things are new or flaky | 14:59 |
| seb128 | let's move on, we can pick up remaining items next week if needed | 14:59 |
| seb128 | #topic AOB | 14:59 |
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| seb128 | any other topic? | 14:59 |
| * Laney shuffles feet | 15:00 | |
| seb128 | seems not | 15:01 |
| seb128 | thanks desktoppers! | 15:01 |
| didrocks999 | not for me | 15:01 |
| didrocks999 | thanks seb128 | 15:01 |
| luna_ | sorry missed the meeting today, watching CES Online 2021 and having a bit of a cold | 15:01 |
| kenvandine | thanks | 15:01 |
| luna_ | need to read the log later | 15:01 |
| hellsworth | thanks | 15:01 |
| seb128 | #endmeeting | 15:01 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Tue Jan 12 15:01:29 2021 UTC. | 15:01 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2021/ubuntu-desktop.2021-01-12-14.30.moin.txt | 15:01 |
| marcustomlinson | thanks | 15:01 |
| Laney | luna_: read a book instead, it'll be a better use of your time ;-) | 15:01 |
| Trevinho | ahah | 15:02 |
| luna_ | Laney: heh guess i have some books i haven't read yet | 15:02 |
| luna_ | :D | 15:02 |
| Trevinho | seb128: on that bug I've replied, there's a fix proposed upstream. so will handle that | 15:02 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, thanks! | 15:02 |
| luna_ | got accepted as a Swedish translator again last week by GunnarHj and the gang so been accepting and reviewing translations and doing some small ones for Swedish, but having a cold so have not had much energy | 15:05 |
| luna_ | but still some months until Hirsute releases | 15:05 |
| seb128 | right, still having time before the release | 15:06 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, I'm lacking context on bug #1908502 as I wasn't there at last week's meeting. Was a course of action agreed? Do we simply want to disable deflate support in 4.2.0 ? File a MIR ? | 15:06 |
| ubot5 | bug 1908502 in tiff (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libtiff5 dependency on libdeflate0" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1908502 | 15:06 |
| Trevinho | tjaalton: you needed something else in https://salsa.debian.org/sssd-team/sssd/-/merge_requests/11 or can we merge it? | 15:08 |
| luna_ | read the log now, and will try to be here in time next week | 15:08 |
| Laney | oSoMoN: "Speed improvements in the 35%-50% range can be expected when libdeflate is used. Compression level up to 12 is now supported (capped to 9 when zlib is used). Still requires zlib for situations where libdeflate cannot be used (that is for scanline access, since libdeflate has no streaming mode)" | 15:08 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, I was not around for the meeting either but it does sound like libdeflate needs a MIR | 15:08 |
| Laney | sounds worthwhile to try to keep that to me | 15:09 |
| Laney | wdyt? | 15:09 |
| oSoMoN | if the claim is true, definitely | 15:10 |
| tjaalton | Trevinho: oh right | 15:21 |
| tjaalton | merged | 15:21 |
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| didrocks | https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg | 15:32 |
| didrocks | seb128: Laney: any idea why -bad is tried to be pulled in main? rygel added a dep to it it seems? | 15:32 |
| didrocks | (by -editing-services) | 15:33 |
| Laney | looks like it | 15:36 |
| didrocks | seems like seb128 was syncing it and working on it on Debian side, let’s wait for him to be back :) | 15:38 |
| Laney | yeah from the changelog, looks like the idea was to not have this on ubuntu | 15:39 |
| didrocks | right | 15:39 |
| seb128 | didrocks, I'm around, I need to check why it's not working | 15:49 |
| didrocks | ack, keep me posted | 15:50 |
| seb128 | didrocks, Laney, it's the same issue than the proposed migration I mentioned during the meeting and asked on #debian-gnome about a bit earlier | 15:57 |
| Laney | seb128: I see, https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/rygel/-/commit/6ad5c0cd51a2dcece1da9b257d85e812301bf296 | 16:01 |
| seb128 | Laney, yeah, bi_gon also replied on #debian-gnome | 16:01 |
| Laney | can't make this bloomin test fail on my pi any more | 16:20 |
| Laney | trying to make it stressed | 16:20 |
| seb128 | hum, https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/a/autopilot-gtk/hirsute/armhf | 16:29 |
| seb128 | Failed to write 'change' to '/sys/devices/virtual/misc/uinput/uevent': Permission denied | 16:29 |
| seb128 | dpkg: error processing package python3-autopilot (--configure): | 16:29 |
| seb128 | what's going on there? | 16:29 |
| Laney | no idea | 16:33 |
| Laney | some kernel / lxd change or interaction?! | 17:00 |
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