| indyZ | gnrp: I didn't see anything unusual in powertop. Running the same stuff as in windows - a browser and a terminal. But in windows the battery lasts like 6 hours maybe, linux is more like 2 | 01:45 |
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| indyZ | gnrp: Interesting.. suspending without closing the lid seems OK. | 01:48 |
| indyZ | I wonder why | 01:48 |
| kotek14 | indyZ: Laptop Mode Tools have always worked for me | 02:08 |
| kotek14 | Some of my laptops are inconsistent with suspending and/or closing the lid, but I assume it's XFCE being XFCE | 02:12 |
| kotek14 | For example my Lenovo N22 works fine but almost always after waking up it says "This session is locked" and it doesn't even prompt me for entering my password | 02:13 |
| kotek14 | Then I just switch to tty1 and unlock the session manually | 02:14 |
| kotek14 | My new ASUS ROG can freeze when I close the lid, so I just try not to. | 02:14 |
| Curly | IndyZ that sounds like a voltage issue. | 02:37 |
| Curly | When that happens, one remedy is to remove the battery from the laptop, then, wait about an hour and then re-insert the battery. Some batterys have memories in them. | 02:38 |
| Curly | As a professional, I don't recommend playing with those issues. It is involved. | 02:40 |
| Curly | If at the last resort, save all of your data and re-install the OS. | 02:43 |
| Curly | It also may be that your OS you install is not compatible with your laptop. | 02:44 |
| Curly | Drivers are always an issue. | 02:44 |
| Curly | In some of these case I use VBOX Virtual Box. | 02:48 |
| Curly | Retrograde your OS with VBOX. | 02:48 |
| Curly | Keep in mind that the latest technology is not the best. It is most likely : experimental. | 02:49 |
| Curly | In other words: BETA | 02:50 |
| Curly | Using VBOX installation of drivers is better than using the actual drivers. | 02:52 |
| Curly | Using the actual drivers is safer in VBOX because VBOX protects your system. | 02:53 |
| Curly | Always BAckup BAckup <-------------< your files. | 02:56 |
| === FutureShock is now known as Desertdew | ||
| gnrp | indyZ: Hm, so it does not seem to be the suspend, but the actual lid-closing action that causes this. When you switch off the screen locking when suspending, what happens? | 06:57 |
| gnrp | indyZ: Hu? Did you really run the powertop that I mean? powertop should give you recommendations on what causes too many wakeups and what commands you can do to improve battery life | 06:58 |
| gnrp | indyZ: What nvidia GPU driver do you use? | 06:58 |
| indyZ | gnrp: Maybe I don't know how to use powertop properly. I ran it, it's like "top" but with some power usage columns. I don't see any recommendations or commands or anything. | 07:34 |
| indyZ | gnrp: I have an Intel GPU, so none, I assume | 07:34 |
| * indyZ disables "Lock screen with system sleep" | 07:36 | |
| indyZ | "Xfce Poewr Manager is not configured to handle laptop lid events. Your computer may not be locked when you close the lid." | 07:36 |
| indyZ | gnrp: How do I switch off screen locking when suspending? I went to the screen saver lock screen settings, but I saw that message. | 07:37 |
| indyZ | confusing | 07:37 |
| gnrp | indyZ: I thought you would have an NV gpu which you could switch with an Intel? | 07:38 |
| indyZ | Curly: btw this is basically a fresh install of xubuntu on a relatiely new thinkpad. I thought thinkpads generally had good linux support. | 07:38 |
| indyZ | gnrp: Maybe I do, but I don't see it in lshw | 07:38 |
| gnrp | they do, indeed. | 07:38 |
| gnrp | ah, sorry, no, misunderstood what you wrote earlier | 07:39 |
| gnrp | when you start powertop, it will give you suggestions on what you can do to improve power consumption, certain commands, etc. | 07:39 |
| gnrp | the screen saver can be switched off in the power management under the system tab, there's a part "security" or so | 07:39 |
| gnrp | indyZ: Thinkpads generally are well-supported, but the newer the hardware is, the more trouble there can be. And some manual tweaking is always required | 07:40 |
| indyZ | This is what powertop says before switching to full screen mode: https://dpaste.com/CXGD4HAUY | 07:41 |
| indyZ | (Yes, the computer is named after a spice girl) | 07:41 |
| indyZ | ah, system tab. "Lock screen when system is going to sleep" is not checked. | 07:41 |
| indyZ | Hmm | 07:41 |
| indyZ | When I first installed xubuntu to this machine, closing the laptop just turned off the screen. didn't suspend at all. so I set it to suspend, in power manager, and now it's doing this thing with the keyboard and moues not working in X after resume. | 07:42 |
| indyZ | Interesting.. if I have "Lock screen when system is going to sleep," it shows the lock screen if I manually suspend and resume. But If I suspend by closing the laptop lid, when I open it, it doesn't show a lock screen. Just the desktop with the unresponsive keyboard and mouse clicking. | 07:52 |
| tete_ | is it possible to show the exact time instead of only "today" in the changed column of thunar? | 08:07 |
| indyZ | gnrp: I guess this may be related to the lid closing/resume issue: The system is running from a USB drive (full install) | 08:26 |
| indyZ | kotek14: I'm reading about Laptop Mode Tools. Thanks! | 08:31 |
| DarkTrick | tete_, yes | 10:07 |
| tete_ | DarkTrick, how? | 10:08 |
| DarkTrick | tete_, Menu -> Edit -> Preferences -> Display | 10:08 |
| DarkTrick | tete_, Format (in the bottom) | 10:08 |
| DarkTrick | tete_, you can even set a custom format | 10:08 |
| tete_ | oh nice, thanks! | 10:09 |
| DarkTrick | 👍️ | 10:09 |
| Curly | DarkTrick what are you using for an IRC Client? | 15:26 |
| DarkTrick | Curly, HexChat | 15:26 |
| Curly | I am using IRSSI. | 15:26 |
| DarkTrick | Curly, why? | 15:26 |
| Curly | I saw that little icon. | 15:27 |
| Curly | 👍️ | 15:27 |
| DarkTrick | you mean "👍️" ? | 15:27 |
| DarkTrick | ah | 15:27 |
| Curly | What is that? | 15:27 |
| DarkTrick | That's not related to the client | 15:27 |
| DarkTrick | it's not rendered? | 15:27 |
| Curly | You use rendering software? | 15:28 |
| DarkTrick | things get scrambled. Lets clear things up. | 15:28 |
| Curly | I have done lots of POV Ray Trace in the past. | 15:28 |
| DarkTrick | It's a Unicode (?) / utf-8 (?) character for "thumbs up" | 15:29 |
| Curly | OK. Thanks for the clarification. | 15:29 |
| DarkTrick | I write it through Japanese input | 15:29 |
| DarkTrick | If you're interested, you can also use `GNOME Characters` | 15:30 |
| DarkTrick | That will let you search and copy those icons | 15:30 |
| DarkTrick | 👍️✔️✅😅💦🕺 | 15:30 |
| Curly | I just installed for Xubuntu FontForge Have you used it? | 15:30 |
| DarkTrick | never heard of it | 15:31 |
| Curly | Check it out. | 15:31 |
| Curly | https://askubuntu.com/questions/1058055/how-do-i-install-fontforge-on-kubuntu-18-04 | 15:32 |
| Curly | https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=fontforge | 15:32 |
| DarkTrick | Curly, why exactly would is that interesting? :) | 15:33 |
| Curly | I am a Technical Writer. I am also an IT Pro. I am a Technical Consultant. | 15:34 |
| Curly | DarkTrick fonts are cool. I wrote a lot of ASCII graphics in older BASIC Programming Language. | 15:37 |
| Curly | ASCII Graphics are still used today. | 15:39 |
| DarkTrick | Curly, hm... sure... but only fun in languages with around 52 - 128 characters (like English) | 15:39 |
| Curly | Check this out: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ascii+graphics+table&t=h_&iax=images&ia=images&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.instructables.com%2FF5P%2FM9I5%2FF4ULN87C%2FF5PM9I5F4ULN87C.RECT2100.jpg | 15:39 |
| DarkTrick | sure, looks nice | 15:39 |
| Curly | Xubuntu has a lot of nice features. I first started my Linux use with old Red Hat 6. That was about 20 years ago or more. | 15:45 |
| Curly | That was on #Dalnet irc | 15:50 |
| pikapika | Is it normal for Thunar to have a noisy stdout? | 15:50 |
| pikapika | It spams the console with messages about thunar-volman and usbs | 15:51 |
| Curly | https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/thunar-vs-nautilus-two-lightweight-file-managers-for-linux/ | 15:53 |
| xu-irc97w | is support for 32-bit processors ending at 18.04? I see there's no 32-bit link for 20.04. Looked around for some indication on the page, but found none. | 15:54 |
| Curly | Most users use 64 bit machines. 32 bit will always be around. | 16:01 |
| Curly | Support for 32 bit will be around. | 16:01 |
| Maik | xu-irc97w: 32 bit support ended a while ago, from 20.04 onward it's 64 bit iso's only | 16:55 |
| Maik | if you need 32 bit you need to switch to debian | 16:55 |
| Maik | they still support the 32 bit architecture | 16:55 |
| Maik | buntu 18.04 was the last LTS release to support 32 bit | 16:57 |
| xu-irc97w | Thank you! | 17:15 |
| Curly | To be honest, BSD is the closest Kernel to UNIX. Linux or Ubuntu is the next runner-up. | 17:17 |
| Curly | I found that Xubuntu is a great installation. | 17:17 |
| Curly | Debian is a different OS. | 17:18 |
| Curly | The command line is different. | 17:19 |
| Curly | Quite frankly, it all depends upon what your intentions or use of the OS is. | 17:21 |
| Curly | You can use VMWare or VBOX Virtual Box, it also depends upon what your strategy and use of it is. | 17:23 |
| Curly | It is OK to be concerned about the 32/64 bit machine, but the overall issue is what are you going to do with it? | 17:27 |
| Curly | Lots of programmers are using: "Backwards Compatible" distros. | 17:28 |
| Curly | There is an excellent example. | 17:29 |
| Curly | Pirch 98 IRC IRC/Client/Server which is not supported, is way beyond its days. | 17:30 |
| Curly | PIRCH 98 uses TDCC protocol. | 17:31 |
| Curly | Turbo Client to Client Protocol | 17:33 |
| Curly | https://www.malavida.com/en/soft/pirch/ | 17:35 |
| Curly | The DCC is Direct Client To Client Protocol. | 17:59 |
| Curly | Honestly, I don't think anyone here on this channel has use irc DCC Send. | 18:00 |
| Maik | !discuss | 18:01 |
| ubottu | Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks! | 18:01 |
| Curly | Thanks Ubuottu. | 18:01 |
| Curly | Good Boy! | 18:02 |
| Curly | Ubottu What time is it? | 18:04 |
| Maik | Curly: mind to take the chit-chat to offtopic? | 18:04 |
| Curly | Greets to Maik. No-one is asking questions and you are not chit-chatting with the no-ones. Why do you take the offensive? | 18:06 |
| Maik | channel rules dude | 18:06 |
| Maik | it's a support channel, keep the other stuff out of it | 18:07 |
| Maik | you've been pointed at the other channels and been asked kindly which should be enough | 18:08 |
| Curly | I didn't know that I was a "Dude" Also Most of my students where I teach have asked questions that was and seemed out of character but in the long run, it meant something to them. | 18:08 |
| Maik | i see... another troll then | 18:08 |
| Maik | bye | 18:08 |
| Curly | Supporting a channel is also a personal thing. Many of the people that come are here are human beings. They want or hope to be treated such. | 18:09 |
| Curly | Maik how would you feel if you were called a "troll"? | 18:10 |
| Curly | You don't know what "bye" means. | 18:10 |
| Curly | Bye means " Be With Ye " | 18:11 |
| hggdh | Curly: please stop | 18:27 |
| Curly | Hggdh, I don't believe I have had the pleasure of speaking with you. Good day to you. | 18:41 |
| coconut | Curly, shhhh, make a support question or go to #ubuntu-offtopic #ubuntu-discuss | 18:42 |
| Curly | Coconut greets! Question? How large of a hard drive will Xubuntu support and can it be supported? | 18:45 |
| Curly | Also take into consideration the BIOS of the Drive. | 18:46 |
| coconut | Curly, can probably as big as you want as long as the file system supports such size. | 18:46 |
| GridCube | does this mean that one of my hds is dead right? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/84UxvKFs/20210112_191659.jpg | 22:19 |
| gnrp | GridCube: Seems so | 22:20 |
| GridCube | Poop | 22:21 |
| gnrp | GridCube: Check out the smart values | 22:21 |
| GridCube | I cant login, when i press any key it starts spewing this error | 22:21 |
| GridCube_ | oh well | 22:29 |
| === GridCube_ is now known as GridCube | ||
| GridCube | removed one of the drives from my pc and it seems like it was the one causing the problem | 22:30 |
| === andrzejr_ is now known as andrzejr | ||
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