[00:31] <nuxil> anyone got experiance with wine ?
[00:32] <nuxil> im trying to run a exe, but i get this error
[00:32] <nuxil> https://i.gyazo.com/90c346d576f1cf86d8986e2643abb125.png
[00:32] <nuxil> not sure what to do  about it
[00:32] <genii> !winehq
[00:34] <matsaman> nuxil: which exec?
[00:35] <nuxil> its called brymen rs 1.05.exe
[00:36] <matsaman> some kind of software for a multimeter?
[00:38] <matsaman> nuxil: ^
[00:39] <matsaman> nuxil: via winetricks you should be able to install the .NET framework you need: https://wiki.winehq.org/Winetricks
[00:40] <nuxil> matsaman, yes for a ddm. i did run winetrick dotnet45. didnt help
[00:42] <nuxil> *ddm -> dmm
[00:43] <matsaman> nuxil: sure that's the right one?
[00:44] <nuxil> yes
[00:45] <nuxil> matsaman, link at bottom of 1st post. https://www.eevblog.com/forum/search2/
[00:46] <nuxil> winehq is dead channel.. :(
[00:46] <sarnold> "Did you forget to put something to search for?"
[00:46] <matsaman> nuxil: you could also try mono instead of Wine
[00:47] <nuxil> oh.
[00:47] <nuxil> link to how i do that pls :)
[00:48] <nuxil> sorry, but im not good with linux
[00:49] <matsaman> nuxil: https://www.mono-project.com/archived/guiderunning_mono_applications/
[00:50] <matsaman> should be a package named 'mono' or something in the repos
[00:50] <nuxil> thanks
[00:50] <matsaman> depending on the app it might work, or you might have to go back to Wine stuffo
[00:51] <nuxil> i'll try this mono
[00:55] <nuxil> no go. WARNING: The runtime version supported by this application is unavailable. bla bla bla,,, The entry point method could not be loaded due to Could not load file or assembly 'Microsoft.VisualBasic, Version=8.0.0.0, bla bla bla
[00:55] <nuxil> bummer
[00:57] <matsaman> what's the app even for?
[00:58] <nuxil> allows me to connect the mulimeter to the pc so i can do data logging
[00:59] <matsaman> nuxil: I'm guessing you can use some other open source app for that instead
[00:59] <matsaman> nuxil: https://www.google.com/search?q=linux+brymen+multimeter
[00:59] <matsaman> brylog, sigrok; lot of decent looking leads
[00:59] <nuxil> no i need this app. it has some schematics embed in it. to make the cable i need :D
[00:59] <matsaman> if #winehq isn't helping #linux might
[01:01] <sarnold> hmm... I wonder how those schematics are stored; I wonder if binwalk or ghidra could extract them out of the executable
[01:01] <sarnold> another possibility, install windows into a vm, run the application there
[02:33] <Inspiral> I am using 20.04 (upgraded from 18.04) and the package (anope/bionic,bionic,now 2.0.4-2 amd64) installed with apt creates configuration files in /etc/anope but the service looks for configuration files in etc/anope/conf/* does this need reporting as a bug or is it because its a bionic package?
[02:33] <Inspiral> from a default installation the service doesn't run because of this issue.
[02:40] <sarnold> Inspiral: if you install the version of anope packaged in 20.04, there's a small chance it might already have been fixed, note the changelogs.. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/anope/+changelog  "update default configs from examples" in 2.0.6-1
[02:42] <Inspiral> thanks, will check it out.
[03:28] <Ascavasaion> niche
[03:42] <StarOnD> Hello everyone my computer had became very slow . the gui was freezing I did sudo apt upgrade and it took 12 hours After downloading to apply the upgrades now it says tainted G 5.4.0-52-generic task sync blocked for more than 120 seconds what should I do now?
[03:42] <StarOnD> I don't know if the upgrade has completed or not
[03:44] <pyeverything> is there a way I could fix nvcc fatal   : Unsupported gpu architecture 'compute_30' error in make for NVIDIA GeForce 1650 Ti GPU? For example what should I change this line (not written by me) to so that it will support my GPU? the line in CMakeLists.txt is: set(CUDA_NVCC_FLAGS "${CUDA_NVCC_FLAGS}; -gencode=arch=compute_30,code=sm_30") a bit more about the problem: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/65695117/usr-bin-ld-cannot-find-l
[03:44] <pyeverything> eads-after-cmake-in-build-folder-in-ubuntu-20
[03:44] <pyeverything> I have Ubuntu 20.04
[03:58] <jayjo-> I have found that the fprint-demo package is no longer available in Ubuntu 20.10, and I don't have an option to enroll a fingerprint in the "Users" section under settings. I'm using the https://secugen.com/products/hamster-pro-20/. This page from 2016 https://www.linuxmissive.com/2016/01/secugen-hamster-pro-20-with-ubuntu-1404.html documents getting it to work with ubuntu 14.04, but also references
[03:58] <jayjo-> unavailable libgtk1.2-dev
[03:59] <jayjo-> Are there recommended ways to test a fingerprint reader on 20.10?
[04:38] <Bhof2020> hey all
[04:38] <Bhof2020> Newb IRC question here... it looks like my name is being used from an inproper logout.  how do i boot it?  I have a registered password against it
[04:39] <Disconsented> /msg nickserv help ghost
[04:41] <ExcessiveAggro> ahh thats better
[04:41] <ExcessiveAggro> thanks Disconsented
[04:41] <Disconsented> :)
[04:42] <ExcessiveAggro> On to my real question... how do you determine if a PPA is safe?  I've run across quite a few cool utilities lately that require me to add their PPA.  IS there a way to check them out to verify they are OK to use
[04:43] <Bashing-om> !ppa | ExcessiveAggro
[04:44] <ExcessiveAggro> Bashing-om that's what I was afraid of. Sounds like there is no way to know if the one you are adding is safe without reading all the code
[04:44] <jayjo-> can I view all of ubottu's info/responses somewhere online?
[04:44] <Bashing-om> ExcessiveAggro: Yeah - if from launchpad account there is a bit of security in that.
[04:45] <ExcessiveAggro> yeah i think most of the stuff i use comes from there - if not all
[04:45] <ExcessiveAggro> I guess I can see how many commits they have and how long theyve been around
[04:47] <ExcessiveAggro> 1098 commits looks pretty safe
[06:52] <StarOnD> Hello everyone, I  am trying to do sudo apt upgrade. it has downloaded the upgrades but is taking forever to install the first package. what should I do?
[06:52] <catbeard> wait
[06:53] <StarOnD> I have been waiting since one day
[06:54] <p0a> Hello my laptop has been crashing recently, how can I investigate the reason why this happens? I know it's not easy, but I want to cross off any obvious reasons
[06:54] <StarOnD> same problem as p0a for me
[06:54] <p0a> What do you mean StarOnD ?
[06:55] <StarOnD> since about one week ago my laptop keeps freezing
[06:56] <p0a> Mine just started today I think, already 2 crashes in less than 8 hours
[06:57] <StarOnD> ok
[06:57] <p0a> Where would these be recorded, if at all? Under /var/log?
[06:57] <StarOnD> not sure
[07:00] <p0a> Maybe a useful command is `journalctl -b -1 -e'
[07:07] <p0a> I don't see anything that stands out, I'm not sure why I'm getting these crashes :(
[07:21] <JmaJeremy> maybe try linux-crashdump https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/CrashdumpRecipe
[07:25] <JmaJeremy> https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/kernel-crash-dump
[07:29] <code2be> Hibernation been working smoothly, once changed my swap, I always get "Warning: Tuxonice binary signature file not found.", Any ideas ?
[07:30] <code2be> Googled that and all I found to try pm-hibernate, but not working as well.
[07:30] <code2be> Ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS
[07:35] <JmaJeremy> have you seen this link? looks like you might need to make a change in /etc/default/grub https://askubuntu.com/questions/1053134/hibernation-in-18-04#1053227
[07:38] <p0a> JmaJeremy: I need to wait for another crash, given that I don't have these utilities installed, correct?
[07:39] <p0a> I'm going to write it as a one-off for now, I don't want to dedicate time to it unless it keeps happening. Thank you for the help though.
[07:40] <JmaJeremy> yes once you have it installed, next time there is a crash it should dump the kernel memory which could contain some useful info
[07:42] <p0a> Very nice, cheers
[08:42] <nikolam> Hi, I use ssh -X to start 'thunderbird &' session and I am used to open e-mail attachments (PDF documents) in Atril with double-click on attachment in Thunderbird (while in ssh -X session). Since recently (as far as some 20.04 update onwards and in 20.10) it takes very long time to start Atril PDF viewer, via ssh -X session , while opening Thunderbird attachment. Is it Application problem (Atril) or solution is somewhere else, how ssh -X sessions
[08:42] <nikolam> work? Would like to avoid long waits when openning attachemnts in ssh -X.
[08:46] <seslele> hi, in sysctl.conf i added fs.file.max = 250071, then I do sysctl -p to refresh, and then cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max is now 250071, but if I do ulimit -n then it still says 1024.. should ulimit not also say 250071?
[08:54] <vmnew> Got an odd Ubuntu  18 machine. It has /boot/grub/grub.cfg, indicating GRUB2, but also /boot/grub/menu.lst (separate, not a link) - Indicating GRUB1. Is this an upgrade or what?
[08:54] <vmnew> It's GPT/EFI also
[08:56] <ducasse> nikolam: unfortunately the nature of x forwarding makes it a fair bit slower than doing it locally
[08:59] <nikolam> ducasse, it's not the question of if X forwarding is slower, but before some update in 20.04 it was very fast, since it it ssh-X localhost session, and afterwards in 20.04 and 20.10 it is slowly opening Altril. Question is is it about Altril or some other problem, since it were very fast before and is not only about the nature of ssh -X localhost itself .
[09:04] <ducasse> nikolam: i see. could you try opening a file manager remotely and see how fast atril opens from that if you try to open a pdf file?
[09:19] <drag0nius> is there some canonical way to make bash read PAM environment in Ubuntu?
[09:22] <nikolam> ducasse, Thunar file manager (Xfce/xubuntu here) also takes a long time to start via ssh -X localhost) and nautilus too. And yes, also from file manager opened cia ssh -X localhost, Atril takes a long time to open.. Like they all are waiting for something that is already there..
[09:22] <nikolam> Thunderbird itself opens fast.. via ssh -X localhost.
[09:28] <nikolam> These are the messages when starting slow apps via ssh -X localhost, that are supposed to be starting fast: https://pastebin.com/74cb7KXr
[09:30] <nikolam> Seems like they all require , or some library they are using to access "accessibility bus" : "Couldn't register with accessibility bus" and that slows down , some in-library / distro build-in waiting, that slows down all apps..
[09:31] <nikolam> IF it is related..
[09:58] <tete_> hi, i am having some trouble with apparmor and cups on xubuntu 20.10. i can not print from atril, i get some errors in dmesg like https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YGvDBz3Szq/
[10:01] <drag0nius> how do i make bash in ubuntu read /etc/environment?
[10:05] <Lantizia> is it me... or did something reach into my ubuntu 18.04 system and actually remove flash against my knowledge?  paranoid thought... but can't think what else has occurred here
[10:05] <Lantizia> (yes I don't need to know about what everyone knows about flash)
[10:06] <Lantizia> the bionic-updates version of flashplugin-installer has *exactly* the same version as the normal bionic version... which is *odd*... yet it excludes the right scripts
[10:06] <Lantizia> but it does prevent installing the original version
[10:10] <johny181> I have a problem with printing. When I give a print out usinglp -d <printername>  <filename>
[10:10] <johny181> command then print out used default queue settings which are done by
[10:10] <johny181> lpoptions
[10:10] <johny181> command. When I give print command from any text editor or via RDP. It prints and doesn't follow settings. I have made raw default option using
[10:10] <johny181> lpoptions -d <printername> -o raw
[10:10] <johny181> . I can check printer options using
[10:14] <johny181> @Drone sorry.  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Ktd97yzYHt/
[10:51] <Hamidreza> Hi guys, How can I add static route in ubuntu 20 netplan?
[10:51] <Hamidreza> offcourse permanently
[10:53] <johny181> I have a problem with printing. When I give a print out using *lp -d <printername>  <filename>* command then print out used default queue settings which are done by *lpoptions* command. When I give print command from any text editor or via RDP. It prints and doesn't follow settings. I have made *raw* default option using *lpoptions -d
 -o raw*. I can check printer options using *lpoptions -d <printername>*, *Braw option is there*. I have Xubuntu 20.04.
[10:56] <Hamidreza> Another question is about kernel tunnig, do you have any good link for kernel tuning?
[10:57] <Hamidreza> in ubuntu 20 LTS?
[10:58] <slyon> Hamidreza: you can add a static route to netplan using the "routes:" mapping in your YAML config in /etc/netplan/ (see: https://netplan.io/reference/#routing)
[11:01] <Hamidreza> What is the best way to define dns server in ubuntu 20? in /etc/resolv.conf or /etc/netplan ?
[11:02] <slyon> Hamidreza: that would be netplan, via "nameservers:" setting (https://netplan.io/reference/#common-properties-for-all-device-types) – It also might need "use-dns:" if you're using DHCP
[11:04] <Hamidreza> slyon, and another question is about kernel tuning, is there any good link for big production scale?
[11:07] <slyon> sorry I don't know about kernel tuning..
[11:23] <vincenzoml> Hi all, what could be a good usb-c *touch* monitor that works with ubuntu? The AOC seem unsupported, whereas I am in doubt wrt the ASUS mb16amt
[11:26] <tete_> someone here had problems with flash right? was just reading the german IT news (heise.de) and found that https://www.heise.de/news/Extreme-Networks-verschlaeft-das-Ende-von-Flash-5022271.html
[11:27] <tete_> seems like flash is actively blocked now
[11:29] <johny181> `sdgf`
[11:29] <johny181> sdf
[11:43] <wyre> hi guys, gdm service is active but is not loading
[11:45] <wyre> http://jfernandz.me/~wyre/gdm_wont_start.mp4
[11:45] <wyre> why do you think is this?
[11:45] <wyre> I've tryied restarting the system but it doesn't work either
[11:48] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:01] <adrian_1908> I recently upgraded a ~10 year old notebook from 18.04 to 20.04. Now there seem to be sporadic wifi disconnects and the touchpad stopping to work.
[12:01] <adrian_1908> Are problems like these (after an upgrade) known to occur on occasion? And can I assume that hardware of this age — working with 18.04 — will (with some manual tweaks if necessary) keep working with 20.04?
[12:02] <adrian_1908> Note, I don't have access to the device right now, just asking to get a general idea on how to approach this.
[12:02] <lotuspsychje> adrian_1908: older machines, try lubuntu 20.04, for your wifi, wich kernel are you on?
[12:05] <adrian_1908> Should be the vanilla 20.04 LTS kernel, I'm pretty sure I saw something in the 5.x range (whereas 18.04 remained at 4.x). Performance is not an issue (Xubuntu), just the sudden appearance of buggy behavior, presumably driver related.
[12:06] <lotuspsychje> adrian_1908: and your wifi chipset?
[12:06] <adrian_1908> lotuspsychje: beats me, I'll have to look that up online (device not here).
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> adrian_1908: there are currently a lot of known bugs on kernel 5.8, best to come back with as many details you can provide to see wich bug it is
[12:11] <adrian_1908> lotuspsychje: Ok, I'll do that! Thanks for now.
[12:16] <johny181> Where does "system-config-printer" store it's settings? like cpi, raw, page-size etc....
[13:45] <rhagu> Hi, after a power outage, a remote server does not boot anymore, it has its EFI partition on a thumb drive. I can see UEFI Shell output via KVM and change bios settings. The thing is: the partition on the thumb drive seems to be gone, although the efi device tree shows the thumb drive. What can I do? Is there a way to repair an efi partition or create a new one for an existing system?
[13:50] <oerheks> rhagu, so that thumbdrive is damaged? create a new one, walk over there, and try?
[13:50] <oerheks> one cannot do that remotely, i think
[13:51] <rhagu> oerheks I am stuck at the "create a new one" part: I can format a new drive with fat32, but what data do I have to put in there? Can I create the content from a booted linux instance?
[13:51] <oerheks> you said that it contains the EFI partition?
[13:51] <oerheks> !uefi
[13:53] <rhagu> oerheks you are not helping
[13:55] <oerheks> how is the UEFI manual not helpfull? i think it is a weird and vulnerable setup, efi on a thumbdrive.
[13:55] <dob1> the top center clock often is not updated....
[13:56] <dob1> damn even on clock there are bugs
[13:59] <rhagu> oerheks dude, your comments are condescending and vague. If I could walk over I would obviously do so . . . do you even know what is written in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI? There is no paragraph that shows how to replace a broken EFI partition for an existing system.
[14:03] <oerheks> boot a live iso, chroot your install, and perform the install: grub-install /dev/sdX  https://wiki.debian.org/GrubEFIReinstall
[14:05] <rhagu> oerheks thank you very much, I will try that
[14:07] <oerheks> rhagu, check the damaged usb first..
[14:07] <oerheks> maybe it is damaged beyond repair.
[14:10] <rhagu_> I will try to boot a live iso and check dosfsck
[14:29] <gravitos> hello ppl, bluetooth problems, cant connect ubuntu 18.04 laptop to android 11 phone, `Failed to connect: org.bluez.Error.Failed`, bluetoothctl says.
[14:32] <sapiensanatis> Hello I'm having issues getting a liveusb to boot to install Ubuntu
[14:33] <sapiensanatis> I'm using Ubuntu Budgie at the moment but it's a general hardware issue as other distros I've tried are exhibiting the same problem
[14:33] <sapiensanatis> Essentially as soon as I click any of the options in the GRUB menu the computer just goes to a black screen and the keyboard switches off and the USB activity indicator turns off
[14:33] <sapiensanatis> and then it just hangs there, seemingly forever
[14:34] <sapiensanatis> I've verified the USB key works by trying it on my laptop and it does proceed to install correctly
[14:34] <sapiensanatis> I've also tried all the common fixes like nomodeset and acpi=off etc
[14:34] <sapiensanatis> Nothing seems to be working or producing any sort of unique result and it's incredibly frustrating
[14:34] <sapiensanatis> I hope someone here can help me
[14:38] <zen_coder> Can it be that I cannot install ubuntu 18.04 via a LVM option?
[14:38] <zen_coder> I mean the desktop version
[14:38] <EriC^^> no
[14:38] <EriC^^> you can use lvm on the desktop version zen_coder
[14:39] <zen_coder> I do not find any info about it during install
[14:39] <zen_coder> only that it will be installed on the whole disk
[14:39] <zen_coder> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1033983/ubuntu-18-04-installer-not-able-to-set-up-lvm
[14:42] <ExcessiveAggro> Zen Coder let me boot up a Vm and see
[14:43] <zen_coder> ahh I found it: so I do a checkmark in `Use LVM with the new Ubuntu installation` & `Erase disk and install Ubuntu -`
[14:43] <zen_coder> and then ubuntu will be installed on my specified hardisk via an LVM, which I can later resize, right?
[14:43] <ExcessiveAggro> So all good?
[14:44] <zen_coder> or do I need to setup some partitions in the advances section?
[14:44] <oxek> can someone please link me the guide for upgrading from 18.04 to 20.04 using commandline?
[14:45] <zen_coder> ExcessiveAggro: ?
[14:45] <ExcessiveAggro> One sec I'm going to get you the steps
[14:45] <oxek> I did try searching on the ubuntu webpage, but nothing of use turned up
[14:48] <ExcessiveAggro> zen coder - looks like you are correct that a custom lvm install is not available from the GUI installation.  You can do an automatic lvm install but you won't have control over the partitioning scheme
[14:48] <ExcessiveAggro> you have me curious though... i wonder what it creates for you.  I'm going to do an install and see
[14:49] <zen_coder> oh yes, thanks
[14:49] <ExcessiveAggro> ahh it tells you what it's going to do at the end.
[14:49] <ExcessiveAggro> check this out...
[14:50] <zen_coder> ExcessiveAggro ?
[14:50] <ExcessiveAggro> https://imgur.com/a/AfhHube
[14:51] <ExcessiveAggro> Looks like it creates a single volume group called vgubuntu and two logical volumes called root and swap_1
[14:52] <zen_coder> and root will contain my home dir?
[14:53] <ExcessiveAggro> yes sir
[14:53] <ExcessiveAggro> you can relocate the home directory pretty easily later if you like
[14:54] <zen_coder> this is what I want, I have multiple hard disks and and want to combine then via LVM
[14:54] <zen_coder> so all stuff can be placed inside the home dir
[14:55] <ExcessiveAggro> I see.  Are you wanting the disks to be raid or Jbod
[14:55] <zen_coder> what is jbod?
[14:55] <zen_coder> there should be no backup of the data
[14:55] <ExcessiveAggro> just a bunch of dissk
[14:55] <zen_coder> no raid needed
[14:56] <ExcessiveAggro> I need someone to factcheck me here... but if you just link a bunch of disks in to a volume group, and you lose one disk... is the entire data pool corrupt?
[14:57] <ExcessiveAggro> I'm pretty sure you lose everything
[14:57] <ExcessiveAggro> but if you are making backups then maybe you are ok with it
[14:57] <zen_coder> I dont make backups
[14:58] <zen_coder> I also do not care about the data
[14:58] <ExcessiveAggro> Ahh I see then LVM with just a bunch of disks underneath will be just fine
[14:58] <zen_coder> a lot of temp data will be there, build artifacts
[14:59] <ExcessiveAggro> but restating so you dont get mad at me later :)  If you have a bunch of disks in a volume group and one of those disks die, the entire volume is corrupt.
[14:59] <ExcessiveAggro> There may be more elegant ways of doing this but here is how i would handle it...
[15:00] <ExcessiveAggro> I would do manual install and just mount swap and '/'.  make root whatever size you like to cover your base applications.  Then once the OS is up and running i would create the volume group with the remaining space on your first disk and all the additional disks.  Then mount that new volume group to your home directory
[15:01] <ExcessiveAggro> sorry there is an easier way in your situation...
[15:01] <ExcessiveAggro> .just do the lvm install we talked about earlier and it will create one VG for everything
[15:01] <ExcessiveAggro> then add all your other disks to that volume group once the OS is up
[15:03] <ExcessiveAggro> make sense
[15:03] <zen_coder> ExcessiveAggro: can I separate the LV from linux root for home?
[15:04] <ExcessiveAggro> of course - you could crate a new LV for home and mount it to /home
[15:04] <zen_coder> separate linux OS installation and the Home dir
[15:05] <ExcessiveAggro> hard to explain via text.... but it looks like the installer is going to create one VG with your entire disk added to that VG.  So that disk wil be dedicated to '/' and swap
[15:05] <ExcessiveAggro> but you can move home to a different LV and/or VG after install
[15:05] <ExcessiveAggro> if you dont care about that entire disk being dedicated to '/', not a problem
[15:08] <ExcessiveAggro> hope that makes sense
[15:08] <zen_coder> I just do as you said
[15:09] <ExcessiveAggro> I feel powerful all the sudden ;)
[15:14] <zen_coder> ExcessiveAggro https://imgur.com/a/sfGV7KH
[15:15] <ExcessiveAggro> sec on a call but i will tell you what that means
[15:20] <ExcessiveAggro> almost there... sec
[15:21] <ExcessiveAggro> This is what it's doing - https://imgur.com/a/lt8UDzd
[15:22] <ExcessiveAggro> it doesnt say it's creating a physical volume so that layer may not be there...
[15:22] <ExcessiveAggro> but the answer is ... yes that looks correct.  Make sure you dont need the dat aon nvme0n1 because you are about to wipe it out
[15:23] <zen_coder> so the size of the root dir will be the whole disk?
[15:24] <ExcessiveAggro> size of the whole disk - minus the space it uses for swap and minus the space it uses for the efi boot partition
[15:24] <ExcessiveAggro> and /home will live within the '/'
[15:25] <ExcessiveAggro> let me show you a modified diagram of what you will have after you add the other disks
[15:27] <ExcessiveAggro> This is what you will do after install - https://imgur.com/a/DyqImNT
[15:27] <ExcessiveAggro> you will add the green - then expand the yellow
[15:41] <ExcessiveAggro> zen coder how things going
[15:45] <lapideviridi> Anyone else had issues with the 5.8.0-36 kernel? It was installed when I ran update with apt. After a reboot, Wifi, bluetooth, camera, speakers and microphone didn't work. Spent a few hours trying to fix wifi, but ended up going back to 5.4 on a whim. Solved everything. Collegue of mine had the exact same issue.
[15:46] <lapideviridi> This was on Ubuntu 20.04 for me. No idea what my collegue ran, but probably the same
[15:52] <leftyfb> lapideviridi: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bcmwl/+bug/1910555 there's a workaround toward the bottom
[15:53] <leftyfb> at least for broadcom chipsets
[16:01] <zetheroo> What is the chmod permissions code for '-rwsr-xr-x' ?
[16:02] <leftyfb> zetheroo: http://permissions-calculator.org/
[16:02] <zetheroo> leftyfb: I've been trying to figure it out with that tool
[16:03] <ExcessiveAggro> how you going to get an 's' permission in there ;)
[16:03] <ExcessiveAggro> the answer is 755 - 7=rwx and 5=rx
[16:03] <ExcessiveAggro> leftyfb that tool is pretty sweet, never seen that before
[16:04] <zetheroo> closest I got was '-rwSr-xr-x' with 4655
[16:05] <zetheroo> ExcessiveAggro: the small 's' is there by default for the file /usr/bin/passed
[16:05] <ExcessiveAggro> zetheroo oh im sorry i was joking around the 's'
[16:05] <ExcessiveAggro> would it be 2755 ?
[16:06] <zetheroo> no, that '-rwxr-sr-x'
[16:06] <ExcessiveAggro> one sec
[16:07] <zetheroo> 4755
[16:07] <ExcessiveAggro> hey there it is!
[16:07] <zetheroo> :P
[16:07] <ExcessiveAggro> learned me something today
[16:07] <zetheroo> me too ;)
[16:08] <ExcessiveAggro> Now you caused me to go read up on setgid
[16:08] <zetheroo> I am trying to change a user password as user root with the 'passwd user' command but am running into 'passwd: Authentication token manipulation error' without even being asked to supply a password ... any ideas?
[16:11] <zetheroo> anything amiss here? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/kKTD6DbBMM/
[16:12] <ExcessiveAggro> your asking questions for a 33 mage... I'm more of a 23 warrior. I need a little more raiding before I can answer these
[16:12] <leftyfb> zetheroo: what version of ubuntu
[16:13] <zetheroo>  leftyfb: 18.04.5
[16:13] <leftyfb> zetheroo: your permissions looks fine
[16:13] <bugaloo> hi everyone! when I get a notification no ubuntu/gnome, is there a way to configure a command for a specific notification? For example, "if you get a firefox notification, send me a email"
[16:14] <zetheroo> ok
[16:14] <leftyfb> zetheroo: try rebooting
[16:25] <relipse> Does anyone know why my apache hangs on php scripts sometimes and after I reboot the computer, it starts working (even though sudo service apache2 stop/start does nothing)
[16:26] <zetheroo> leftyfb: reboot didn't solve it
[16:34] <thyriaen> Hello, i just experienced a strange behaviour - 10 secs after boot i got a green fractal/dots like display error over the whole screen. I was still able to control my pc or change into a different tty(where the error did not occour in the terminal ) I rebooted and it happened again - i rebooted and everything is fine - Any idea what components could be the issue ? Where to look into next ?
[16:36] <p0indexter> thyriaen: video ram
[16:55] <RoseBus> hello, i updated ubuntu 20.04 after software center popup told me to install updates, after rebooting, my sound input/output, video camera, network connection all are not detected
[16:56] <RoseBus> how can i solve this problem (either revert changes or fix the issue)
[16:57] <RoseBus> my network connection is via network cable
[16:57] <Phruis> i cant upgrade my 19.10 machine
[17:00] <Phruis> it just says 404
[17:00] <Phruis> anyone home?
[17:00] <ExcessiveAggro> I'm home... but not srue I can help on that one
[17:00] <ExcessiveAggro> What command are you issuing Phruis?
[17:02] <Phruis> im on 19.10
[17:02] <Phruis> i think they shut off the repos
[17:02] <Phruis> i dont know why but ubuntu has been bad on upgrading for me
[17:02] <Phruis> usually it is automatic
[17:03] <RoseBus> how can i tell ubuntu to reinstall default drivers from OS?
[17:03] <hofer> !eol
[17:04] <Phruis> hofer shouldn't ubuntu just upgrade itself?
[17:04] <Phruis> when ubuntu goes EOL they just leave people hanging and have to completely reinstall?
[17:04] <hofer> !eol upgrade
[17:04] <Phruis> i told it to upgrade with any new version
[17:05] <hofer> hmm
[17:06] <hofer> !upgrade
[17:07] <wwalker> preseed question.  I've searched and searched but only find stuff about how TO get it to partition.  I want to reinstall the OS ( on / fs ) WITHOUT rewriting the partition table!!! There's 100 TB of data I don't want to restore from backup...  Anyone done this?
[17:09] <Phruis> rr:1 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu eoan-updates/main amd64 mysql-server all 8.0.20-0ubuntu0.19.10.1
[17:09] <Phruis>   404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.39 80]
[17:09] <hofer> !eolupgrade
[17:10] <Phruis> am i supposed to know where my sources.list is located?
[17:11] <blb4393> Phruis: yes
[17:12] <Phruis> why would i care?
[17:12] <blb4393> who should then? Putin?
[17:12] <Phruis> the developers of the distro
[17:12] <Phruis> im a user
[17:12] <Phruis> not a distro dev
[17:13] <Phruis> just edit the damn documentation
[17:13] <Phruis> instead of source.list put /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:13] <Phruis> holy crap
[17:13] <Phruis> and stop using bzr
[17:13] <Phruis> make the documentation easier to edit
[17:15] <wwalker> Phruis: you have no idea how hard something like changing VCS systems can be.  I've been through it about 5 times.  It was never worth the effort and pain it created (I agree with you, in that I'm not a fan of bzr either).  But that is a GIANT ask...
[17:16] <Phruis> that is the wrong way to look at it especially if you are in the technology field
[17:16] <Phruis> you have to change with the times
[17:16] <Phruis> no one edits the documentation in Ubuntu
[17:16] <Phruis> because it sucks to do
[17:16] <Phruis> i did it once in college for the package documentation
[17:17] <Phruis> i wanted to learn to package but just ended up learning and editing the documentation because it didn't tell me the correct instructions
[17:17] <Phruis> then i had several people make suggestions trying to "help" on documentation that already was out of date and wasn't correct
[17:18] <Phruis> just sucks man
[17:18] <Phruis> the update alert should of popped up by now
[17:19] <Phruis> i look at this computer for work every day
[17:21] <wwalker> I've not tried to get a documentation fix in Ubuntu.  Bummer that it is so painful.
[17:23] <Phruis> we make fun of Windows forced update policy
[17:23] <Phruis> but this is worse
[17:24] <Phruis> then if you have a repository that doesn't resolve all the GUI software just chokes
[17:24] <Phruis> seriously ubuntu is a joke as a user desktop man
[17:26] <Phruis> doesn't even have basic error checking for software repositories
[17:26] <Phruis> xkill
[17:26] <Phruis> is your answer
[17:26] <Phruis> wow
[17:29] <wwalker> Phruis: that is usually the fault of the third party repo.  dependency management is essentially solving a problem with X! (factorial) possible solutions.  if the other repo causes a loop or increases X, 100% CPU forever
[17:29] <Phruis> wwalker what you said sounds good, but literally a 404 error makes GUI Software sources editor choke
[17:30] <tomreyn> you are very, very welcome to discuss how ubuntu isnt but should be in #ubuntu-discuss. /this/ very channel is just for support.
[17:30] <blb4393> you don't need gui to update your system actually
[17:31] <Phruis> haha
[17:31] <Phruis> forget it
[17:31] <Phruis> just uninstalling this junk
[17:31] <phillipsjk256> Why is the kernel command line for video modes in decimal, but if you get it wrong, you are presnted with a list of modes in hex? (My guess: space constraint in 80 coloumns)
[17:32]  * phillipsjk256 is ranting becuase he had to manually convert mode 324 (hex) to mode 804 (decimal)
[17:34] <wwalker> tomreyn: my apologies, you are correct
[17:34] <jayjo> I'm having trouble getting a fingerprint reader to work on ubuntu that has advertised linux support. First of all, should I see a fingerprint utility in the "Settings > Users" menu on a fresh installation, or do I need to activate or install additional packages? I don't see anything, but I though 20.10 had native support
[17:35] <c0fe> if i have a directory /var/www/stuff that I need it to be owned by "www-data" user but also I need to have certain samba users to have write access to it as well, is this possible?
[17:36] <Phruis> groups
[17:36] <Phruis> create groups and add users to groups
[17:36] <c0fe> that wouldn't break nginx?
[17:37] <c0fe> but here is the thing
[17:37] <c0fe> if I have samba users, Bill, Jill, Ben, Lily but I only need Bill and Ben to have access to /var/www/stuff
[17:37] <wwalker> c0fe: it shouldn't break nginx as long as nginx user in also in the group, OR everything under /var/www/stuff is "other" (world) readable.
[17:37] <Phruis> different groups
[17:37] <c0fe> Bill, Jill, Ben and Lily will have access to another folder called /var/www/samba for example
[17:38] <c0fe> Phruis: you can have multiple groups assigned to a directory?
[17:38] <wwalker> create notBill group in linux, create same group in Samba and add Jill, Ben, Lily to it.
[17:38] <blb4393> and user Trump will have no access at all, haha
[17:39] <Phruis> blb4393 not funny
[17:39] <wwalker> is there a channel for ubuntu sysadmin stuff?  I searched alis but didn't find one.
[17:40] <c0fe> wwalker: ok then how do i assign ownership to /var/www/samba to all four users?
[17:40] <wwalker> GROUPS!
[17:40] <wwalker> looking for link
[17:40] <c0fe> right but i have notBill group so how do I add bill to /var/www/samba
[17:40] <tomreyn> wwalker: no worries, i just wish more folks would actually read the /topic :) (or care about it). if you have system administration questions, this channel is fine. or #ubuntu-server for advanced, server specific, questions.
[17:40] <c0fe> if notBill is assigned to /var/www/stuff
[17:41] <Wanderer> Good afternoon. I am installing 20.10 on an xps14 from 2013. It is going very very slowly. More than 10 min for the screen asking you if you want to install min/regular and extra stuff page. And now about that long for 'detecting file systems...' Is this to be expected?
[17:41] <wwalker> DOH.  I misread your post
[17:41] <Phruis> tomreyn believe it or not i was asking a support question but i am also not a robot
[17:41] <Wanderer> Which is what the robot says.
[17:42] <Phruis> haha
[17:44] <tomreyn> Wanderer: I'd say that's not expected unless you have very, very slow installer media. Mor elikely, though, the installer image didn't download properly, didn't get written to the installer media properly. or there is a serious hardware/firmware/OS/application software problem.
[17:44] <wwalker> Phruis: are the users authenticating via LDAP, Windows AD, or linux smbpasswd?
[17:44] <tomreyn> ^ gone
[17:46] <Wanderer> tomreyn, This is the first time I am using this media. Lol just looked, amazon says I bought it in 2015 so that is it. Thanks tomreyn
[17:47] <tomreyn> I'm not sure that's a sufficient explanation, unless it's media that deteriorates within just a few years?
[17:49] <tomreyn> cdroms might. or it might have been broken from the start. inspecting kenrel logs (ctrl-alt-t to spawn a terminal window, then   journalctl -kb    may help)
[17:49] <tomreyn> i forgot another possible cause: lack of sufficient system resources, specifically RAM.
[17:50] <zen_coder> after I installed the proprietary nvidia driver from ubuuntu software center I get in glxgear only 60 FPS, before I got 1000FPS
[17:50] <zen_coder> is there something wrong with my driver?
[17:53] <phillipsjk256> tomreyn, Wanderer this review I found from 2012 says it has USB 3.0 ports, 4GB of RAM. https://www.cnet.com/reviews/dell-xps-14-review/
[17:53] <blb4393> hey driver where are we going? I swear my nerves are showing..
[17:55] <ExcessiveAggro> zen coder - when you got 1000 fps was that in windows?  a non-proprietary driver?
[17:55] <Wanderer> phillipsjk256, idk I think mine is different.
[17:58] <phillipsjk256> zen_coder, sounds like vsync is enabled: which will lock the frame rate to the display refresh rate.
[17:58] <c0fe> can you add multiple groups to a particular directory share?
[18:01] <tomreyn> Wanderer: journalctl -b | grep DMI:    to identify what you have
[18:02] <Wanderer> cool.
[18:04] <subfj> Im trying to get a canary service to run at boot and have it run in a virtual environment. The command I have to run is " . env/bin/activate && opencanary --start " and it works just fine. I have put this into /etc/systemmd/system/opencanary.service and I know it started because I get an email but i think it is not starting in the virtual env as none of the services are working correctly.
[18:04] <tomreyn> c0fe: what do you mean by "directory share"?
[18:04] <subfj> If I run the command manually it works just fine. Here is a pastebin of my systemd service https://pastebin.com/FFpSJeMr
[18:05] <c0fe> tomreyn: i have several directories /var/www/folder1 /var/www/folder2 /var/www/folder3 and 5 users, www-data, Bill, Jill, Lily, Ben. www-data has ownership of /var/www/folder1 but Bill and Jill must have write access to it as well. /var/www/folder2 must be owned by Bill, Jill, Ben and /var/www/folder3 must be owned by Bill, Jill, Lily and Ben. How can I accomplish this?
[18:06] <bigtom21485> good day. i am having trouble getting drivers to work for my usb wifi dongle.
[18:06] <oerheks> subfj, line 11 WorkingDirectory=/home/ubuntu/OpenCanary/env/bin  to WorkingDirectory=/home/ubuntu/canary-env/bin
[18:07] <oerheks> found at example https://github.com/thinkst/opencanary/issues/73
[18:07] <oerheks> unless you chaanges those paths yourself
[18:08] <oerheks> and line 12;ExecStart= .../opencanaryd --start
[18:08] <tomreyn> c0fe: you can only have a single owning user per directory. but you can join users to a group, have the directory and files in there owned by the group, and set the same permissions for the group as you would for the owning user.
[18:08] <c0fe> tomreyn: can users belong to multiple groups?
[18:09] <tomreyn> yes
[18:09] <tomreyn> !permissions
[18:10] <c0fe> ok thanks tomreyn
[18:12] <bigtom21485> anyone availible to help me resolve driver issues with my wifi card?
[18:13] <tomreyn> bigtom21485: you'll need to provide mor einfo, such as on the usb chipset, and what the problem is.
[18:13] <tomreyn> lsusb should show what's connected to usb
[18:13] <oerheks> bigtom21485, let us guess, broadcom after update kernel 5.8 ?
[18:13] <tomreyn> though wireless chipsets may actually show up in    lspci -nn   instead
[18:15] <subfj> oerheks: ya my path is correct as it is not the same as that website and i read that starting it with --dev had issues and to start it with --start
[18:16] <subfj> oerheks: the working directory that has all the files in it is ~/OpenCanary/env/bin
[18:19] <subfj> oerheks: nm it was the --dev that did it
[18:19] <subfj> weird
[18:19] <oerheks> i was just checking..
[18:19] <tomreyn> c0fe: pracitically, in the scenario you described, you probably want to add three groups, whoich could be named editors1, editors2, editors3, one ofor each of those directories, and to each group you add the users who should be able to access these specific directories. then you chown (recursively) each of the directories to the specific gruop, and chmod (also recursively, though you may need to do this differently for directories and files) the
[18:19] <tomreyn> directories so that the group you assigned to each gets the permissions it should have (you mentioned +w, writing).
[18:19] <oerheks> oh good
[18:20] <c0fe> tomreyn: yeah but this was just an example, so I have to figure on how to do this in real world
[18:20] <c0fe> or production or whatever you want to call that
[18:21] <c0fe> to be honest i wish you could assign permission
[18:21] <c0fe> according to users
[18:21] <subfj> oerheks: how come the --dev works on the service but --start works when running the command manually?
[18:26] <tomreyn> c0fe: you can do so using ACL (access control lists, an extended / advanced permissions mechanism)
[18:28] <tomreyn> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Access_Control_Lists#Examples
[18:29] <c0fe> tomreyn: is this something i can write up on my computer and simply upload like a config file?
[18:31] <tomreyn> c0fe: it's something you can write up on your computer, and after enabling ACL on the file system in question, just run on the remote computer.
[18:32] <c0fe> tomreyn: this can run on a LXD container that runs Ubuntu 20.04?
[18:32] <tomreyn> i don't see why not.
[18:40] <c0fe> tomreyn: are you aware of any generators that would allow me to generate all this without manual typing?
[18:49] <RoseBus> okay i fixed my system by reverting from 5.8 kernel version back to 5.4
[18:49] <RoseBus> idk why but 5.8 broke all my drivers
[18:52] <Maik> RoseBus: because 5.8 shouldn't be among the updates afaik and should come out in february as HWE kernel. A lot of users are reporting having issues with it.
[18:53] <RoseBus> ubuntu software center popped up and i clicked "install" without reading... 5.8 was among those installed
[18:54] <RoseBus> is that because i have the community-maintained box checked?
[18:54] <Maik> dunno
[19:12] <tomreyn> c0fe: not really, but you could certainly script it in whichever language if you have any determinable patterns.
[19:43] <zen_coder> ExcessiveAggro: how can I reduce my logical root partion? I need to increase my swap space
[19:43] <zen_coder> unfortunately ubuntu has given swap space on 900MB
[19:45] <EmmetBrown> hey guys, I received an email from my VPS provider requesting me to disable NetBIOS-over-TCP/IP. I've included rules in iptables to block incoming traffic from ports 135, 138, 139 and 445, but nmblookup -A [server IP] is still outputting results, which tells me NetBios name service is still active
[19:45] <EmmetBrown> how to do it properly?
[19:49] <LiveWire> zen_coder: boot up with a livecd, and use gparted
[19:51] <zen_coder> I did it already
[19:51] <zen_coder> is there any way to check if the filesystem is correct?
[19:51] <zen_coder> no errors, etc
[19:54] <leftyfb> zen_coder: how much physical memory does your system have?
[19:55] <leftyfb> EmmetBrown: bind samba to a specific interface so it's not listening on a public interface
[19:56] <LiveWire> zen_coder: run fsck? you can do that from gparted also
[19:57] <zen_coder> 256GB
[19:59] <leftyfb> zen_coder: if you're eating through 256G of memory and into swap, you are doing something horribly wrong
[19:59] <phillipsjk256> leftyfb, probably 256MB
[20:00] <phillipsjk256> If so, that is a very old machine.
[20:00] <oerheks> 256 mb and 900 mb swap... interesting
[20:01] <leftyfb> zen_coder: 256MB or 256GB?
[20:01] <zen_coder> GB of course
[20:02] <zen_coder> it is a server
[20:02] <phillipsjk256> zen_coder, I though it was a laptop
[20:02] <leftyfb> zen_coder: ok, then my original statement still applies. You should have swap disabled at this point
[20:03]  * phillipsjk256 has tried to install software on a machione with 256MB of RAM in the past month: decided to upgrade.
[20:04] <leftyfb> LiveWire: please do not PM
[20:04] <zen_coder> why should I disable swap when I have a lot of RAM?
[20:06] <leftyfb> zen_coder: do you want to rephrase that or should I point you to some explanations of how memory/swap works?
[20:07] <leftyfb> zen_coder: https://itsfoss.com/swap-size/
[20:08] <zen_coder> I got a warning in VM ware that my swap size is too low
[20:08] <zen_coder> 9 GB was recommend
[20:08] <leftyfb> zen_coder: ignore it
[20:08] <leftyfb> you 100% do not need 9G of swap .. holy hell
[20:09] <leftyfb> zen_coder: if you insist on swap with 256GB of physical memory (it's a VM right? So not physical really) throw 1 or 2G of swap at it and be done with it
[20:10] <zen_coder> the article is mentioned something about 11 GB for 128GB ram
[20:11] <leftyfb> zen_coder: please read thae article. Do not skim it.
[20:12] <zen_coder> anyway, It seems so  destroyed my system with the reduce of my root LVM
[20:12] <zen_coder> ubuntu does not start up anymore
[20:13] <zen_coder> bye
[20:13] <oerheks> did you update grub with the correct UUID?
[20:33] <ExcessiveAggro> zen coder you still here?  I was away but back now
[20:34] <subfj> trying to set a static mac address on ubuntu 20.04 server in netplan and its being a PITA. I tried macchanger and it would not persist after reboots. I feel this should be simple and maybe I am in the wrong area to set this...
[20:36] <tyranttyler> hello
[20:36] <tyranttyler> I have a questions... is it ok to ask here?
[20:36] <leftyfb> !ask | tyranttyler
[20:36] <leftyfb> subfj: why do you need to change your MAC?
[20:37] <tyranttyler> Hey I have a simple question, as I am not great with using linux servers.
[20:37] <tyranttyler> I am trying to setup Unreal Multi-User Editing Server, using the following PDF, https://cdn2.unrealengine.com/unreal-engine-multi-user-cloud-setup-360515954.pdf
[20:37] <tyranttyler> However when I get to: sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/nvme0n1 it says its being used by the system which makes sense... it's only a 8gb partition.
[20:37] <tyranttyler> The other partitions are nvme1n1 and nvme2n1 are both 280gb partitions. However if i edit the commands from nvme0n1 to nvme1n1 when I get down to :
[20:37] <tyranttyler> Setup project, Generate and build server -
[20:37] <tyranttyler> I run into a disk size issue.... I'm unsure how to change this to work... any ideas? Is it because of the location of then home folder?
[20:37] <Kocane> Anyone who could help me out with some xorg/xinit?
[20:37] <Kocane> I dont really get it
[20:37] <subfj> leftyfb: i need a pi to look like a synology
[20:38] <leftyfb> subfj: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[20:38] <subfj> leftyfb: 20.04 server on a pi 4
[20:38] <lumpybump> noob looking for help with mounting mobile data dongle to ubuntu 20.4
[20:39] <tyranttyler> me?
[20:39] <ExcessiveAggro> tyranttyler | Let's talk about what you are trying to do so I can help better.  Is this a blank server with a clean ubuntu install and you are just trying to follow this guide? or is this server doign other things?
[20:39] <Kocane> I got an Intel NUC running Kodi that starts with /usr/bin/xinit thru a systemd file. But it seems to me it doesnt output full range RGB and I'm having some trouble figuring out how I got about configuring it correctly. I've seen something With Xrandr it seems possible to output it with "--set "Broadcast RGB" "Full"" but I don't get how to configure
[20:39] <Kocane>  that if I'm using xinit
[20:39] <lumpybump> trying to follow guide as per manufacturer but getting error
[20:39] <tyranttyler> Yes just follow this guide exactly as it says on the PDF
[20:39] <tyranttyler> Yes im a noob with linux servers...
[20:39] <lumpybump> no no
[20:39] <lumpybump> I'm talking about myself x]
[20:39] <lumpybump> haha sorry I just kind of jumped in
[20:40] <leftyfb> subfj: maybe see if removing cloud-init resolves the issue of it reverting after reboot
[20:40] <tyranttyler> New AWS server correct exactly like the PDF says...
[20:40] <lumpybump> I have 0 experience with servers so xp
[20:40] <ExcessiveAggro> ok the command you are talking about is trying to create a filestystem on a physical device.  if that physical device already ahs a partiion on it - it will fail
[20:40] <subfj> leftyfb: I did find this, any drawbacks? https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-switch-back-networking-to-etc-network-interfaces-on-ubuntu-20-04-focal-fossa-linux
[20:40] <ExcessiveAggro> how many physical drives are in the system and do each of them already have partitions?
[20:41] <tyranttyler> Yeah here I will show you:
[20:41] <tyranttyler> NAME        MAJ:MIN RM   SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT
[20:41] <tyranttyler> loop0         7:0    0  97.8M  1 loop /snap/core/10185
[20:41] <tyranttyler> loop1         7:1    0  55.3M  1 loop /snap/core18/1885
[20:41] <tyranttyler> loop2         7:2    0  70.6M  1 loop /snap/lxd/16922
[20:41] <tyranttyler> loop3         7:3    0  28.1M  1 loop /snap/amazon-ssm-agent/2012
[20:41] <leftyfb> !pastebin | tyranttyler
[20:41] <subfj> leftyfb: also would the auto updates bring back cloud-init? if it did at any point in the future it would cause issues
[20:41] <leftyfb> subfj: just remove the cloud-init package
[20:42] <subfj> leftyfb: okay let me try that
[20:42] <littleta1lguy> exit
[20:42] <ExcessiveAggro> tyranttyler | can you run sudo fdisk -l and drop it on pastebin for me - https://paste.ubuntu.com/
[20:43] <tyranttyler> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vgqqwP7vFY/
[20:43] <ExcessiveAggro> sudo fdisk -l
[20:43] <ExcessiveAggro> you are getting permission denied because no sudo
[20:43] <subfj> leftyfb: so network droped, thinking i need to run systemctl daemon-reload
[20:44] <subfj> leftyfb: ah, nm the interfaces are missing now, maybe a reboot
[20:44] <tyranttyler> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/m8mV8fjf4J/
[20:45] <subfj> leftyfb: okay interface is back, let me try macchanger again
[20:46] <ExcessiveAggro> tyranttyler - give me one sec
[20:46] <tyranttyler> thank you
[20:47] <wwalker> tomreyn: thanks for the pointer to #ubuntu-server I started here, but no one had responded, and preseed is a niche part of the project...
[20:47] <ExcessiveAggro> tyranttyler - df -h
[20:48] <ExcessiveAggro> want to make sure i understand your permission scheme before mnoving you foward
[20:48] <tyranttyler> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/NHfwv2qNm6/
[20:50] <ExcessiveAggro> tyranttyler - OK looks like this machine has a single physical nvme drive being used for the OS - /dev/nvme0n1
[20:50] <ExcessiveAggro> and there are two other nvme drives that are available for use like your document says...
[20:51] <ExcessiveAggro> nvme1n1 & nvme2n1 - each is 280GB in size
[20:51] <tyranttyler> Yeah I seen that
[20:51] <tyranttyler> When I try to do sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/nvme0n1 it says its being used by the system
[20:51] <subfj> okay i have the new mac set and changed, where do i set that permanently? within the netplan settings? make a manual entry for mac address in there I take it?
[20:51] <ExcessiveAggro> dont yhou need a partition before you can format it ?
[20:52] <tyranttyler> I suppose so, it just didn't tell me that... Should I change the commands that are shown in the pdf?
[20:52] <ExcessiveAggro> i.e. sudo fdisk /dev/nvme1n1
[20:53] <ExcessiveAggro> then "n" for new partition
[20:53] <tyranttyler> Do I sudo into there then :
[20:53] <ExcessiveAggro> yes you need to sudo to run fdisk
[20:53] <ExcessiveAggro> sudo fdisk /dev/nvme1n1
[20:54] <ExcessiveAggro> once you are in fdisk you can hit 'p' to see if there is a partitino on that device
[20:55] <tyranttyler> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/wjphKybfRG/
[20:55] <ExcessiveAggro> if you hit P what does it say
[20:55] <ExcessiveAggro> im assuming nothing
[20:55] <ExcessiveAggro> no partitions
[20:55] <tyranttyler> gotcha
[20:56] <ExcessiveAggro> if so - lets create one by hitting n
[20:56] <tyranttyler> Gotcha
[20:56] <tyranttyler> primary ?
[20:56] <ExcessiveAggro> then its going to ask you a few questions... defaults work
[20:56] <ExcessiveAggro> primary is fine
[20:56] <tyranttyler> ok
[20:56] <ExcessiveAggro> when its done you will hit 'w' to write changes to disk
[20:57] <tyranttyler> ok done https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jDHsb5rRR2/
[20:58] <ExcessiveAggro> tyranttyler - just realized that was a dos partition table... and you likely want GPT
[20:58] <tyranttyler> Oh gotcha
[20:58] <ExcessiveAggro> so we need to backtrack a little...
[20:58] <tyranttyler> Ok
[20:58] <ExcessiveAggro> sudo fdisk /dev/nvme1n1
[20:58] <ExcessiveAggro> "g"
[20:58] <ExcessiveAggro> which will create a new GPT partition table
[20:58] <tyranttyler> ok
[20:59] <ExcessiveAggro> then the same steps as before - "n" for new partition - "w" to write changes to disk
[20:59] <tyranttyler> then do I w to write it
[20:59] <tyranttyler> ooook
[21:00] <ExcessiveAggro> if you go back in... sudo fdisk /dev/nvme1n1 you should see the new partition listed as /dev/nvme1n1p1
[21:00] <tyranttyler> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CJXrxnKBCm/
[21:00] <tyranttyler> ok I will do that now
[21:00] <ExcessiveAggro> hit "p" to print the current partitions
[21:01] <tyranttyler> Yuo
[21:01] <tyranttyler> Yup its there
[21:01] <ExcessiveAggro> "q" to exit - now lets format it
[21:01] <tyranttyler> ok
[21:01] <ExcessiveAggro> sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/nvme1n1p1
[21:01] <tyranttyler> awesome thats completed
[21:01] <subfj> leftyfb: ya no dice
[21:01] <subfj> hm
[21:02] <ExcessiveAggro> now we can start following the guide again... sudo mkdir /data
[21:02] <ExcessiveAggro> sudo chown  ubuntu:ubuntu /data
[21:02] <tyranttyler> ok I will move from this point and follow the guide
[21:02] <ExcessiveAggro> sudo mount /dev/nvme1n1p1 /data
[21:03] <tyranttyler> ok
[21:03] <ExcessiveAggro> and you get the idea from there
[21:03] <ExcessiveAggro> that guide is kinda wonky....
[21:03] <tyranttyler> mmmh
[21:03] <tyranttyler> So do I do these 3 then
[21:03] <ExcessiveAggro> it doesnt tell you to edit fstab which means that partition wont automount
[21:03] <tyranttyler> sudo mkdir /data
[21:03] <tyranttyler> sudo chgrp ubuntu /data
[21:03] <tyranttyler> sudo chown ubuntu /data
[21:03] <tyranttyler> sudo mount /dev/nvme1n1p1 /data
[21:04] <ExcessiveAggro> those last two i combined in to one statement with sudo chown ubuntu:ubuntu /data
[21:04] <ExcessiveAggro> but you can do them separate if you want
[21:05] <tyranttyler> OK I just got to sudo mount /dev/nvme1n1p1 /data
[21:05] <tyranttyler> So now I install tailscale
[21:05] <tyranttyler> and should be good from there?
[21:05] <ExcessiveAggro> yup
[21:05] <tyranttyler> ok
[21:05] <ExcessiveAggro> but you will want to edit /etc/fstab to automount that drive again later
[21:05] <ExcessiveAggro> thats not in the guide but needed.  if you ever reboot you will lost it
[21:05] <ExcessiveAggro> lose
[21:06] <tyranttyler> ok so when do I do that, after which step?
[21:06] <ExcessiveAggro> you can do it now... let me get you a link
[21:07] <ExcessiveAggro> cant find a good link but I will get you commands
[21:07] <tyranttyler> I appreciate your help
[21:07] <ExcessiveAggro> 1.) identify the UUID of the disk you want to automount
[21:07] <ExcessiveAggro> ll /dev/disk/by-uuid
[21:08] <ExcessiveAggro> 2.) Edit /etc/fstab to make sure the drive automounts
[21:08] <ExcessiveAggro> sudo /etc/fstab
[21:08] <ExcessiveAggro> whoops .... sudo nano /etc/fstab
[21:09] <ExcessiveAggro> 3.) add this line in /etc/fstab
[21:09] <ExcessiveAggro> UUID=your_UUID_goes_here /data ext4 nodev,nosuid 0 2
[21:09] <TJ-> or do it automatically,  something like: echo "UUID=$(blkid -s UUID -o value /dev/nvme1n1p1) /data ext4 defaults 0 2" >> /etc/fstab
[21:10] <ExcessiveAggro> yeah TJ is a leet skeet ninja hacker... im but a caveman
[21:10] <TJ-> :)
[21:10] <tyranttyler> So should I copy echo "UUID=$(blkid -s UUID -o value /dev/nvme1n1p1) /data ext4 defaults 0 2" into etc/fstab file ?
[21:10] <ExcessiveAggro> I need to get better with stringing commands together like that.
[21:10] <tyranttyler> or echo UUID=$(blkid -s UUID -o value /dev/nvme1n1p1) /data ext4 defaults 0 2
[21:10] <tyranttyler> whoops
[21:10] <subfj> if i run a ip scan on my network the ubuntu 20.04 server hostname does not show up, what would i change to enable this server to reply with its hostname?
[21:10] <tyranttyler> UUID=$(blkid -s UUID -o value /dev/nvme1n1p1) /data ext4 defaults 0 2
[21:11] <tyranttyler> Sorry I feel like my grand mother right now... I'm still learning how to use linux servers :/
[21:11] <ExcessiveAggro> you need the backside of that echo
[21:11] <ExcessiveAggro> the one TJ did is write on
[21:12] <ExcessiveAggro> right on
[21:12] <TJ-> FYI, for building new installs from chroots there's a neat tool "genfstab" in the arch-install-tools package that is very handy. E.g. for a chroot rootfs at /target/ with sub-mounts mounted you could do "genfstab /target > /target/etc/fstab " to get a fully filled table
[21:12] <RoseBus> hello, after updating to kernel version 5.8 i had major driver issues, i used apt to remove the 5.8 installation, and reverted back to 5.4, now i'm having issues with dual-monitors
[21:12] <tyranttyler> echo "UUID=$(blkid -s UUID -o value /dev/nvme1n1p1) /data ext4 defaults 0 2"
[21:12] <RoseBus> one of my monitors receives blank image, the other works.
[21:12] <ExcessiveAggro> echo "UUID=$(blkid -s UUID -o value /dev/nvme1n1p1) /data ext4 defaults 0 2" >> /etc/fstab
[21:12] <TJ-> sorry, package is arch-install-scripts
[21:13] <ExcessiveAggro> break down of what that command does.... it echos everything in the quotes to the file listed after >> which is /etc/fstab
[21:13] <TJ-> RoseBus: possibly due to GPU driver issues; is it Nvidia by chance?
[21:13] <tyranttyler> gotchaaaa so I don't open that file, I run that as a command
[21:13] <oerheks> RoseBus, but your fix was simple..
[21:13] <oerheks> RoseBus, with that kernel 5.8 update, it breaks broadcom seriously, but https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bcmwl/+bug/1910555 there's a workaround toward the bottom
[21:13] <ExcessiveAggro> and what is inside the quotes is the exact line i told you to paste except he created a variable called $() with another command inside the parenthesis called blkid
[21:14] <tyranttyler> whoops permission denied
[21:14] <ExcessiveAggro> so yeah... you dont even have to open the file... you just push it in from the command line
[21:14] <ExcessiveAggro> sudo
[21:14] <RoseBus> oerheks, reinstalling kernel from source?
[21:14] <ExcessiveAggro> before the echo
[21:14] <TJ-> ExcessiveAggro: $() is calling a sub-shell and inserting its stdout
[21:14] <tyranttyler> gosh thanks ha
[21:14] <TJ-> ExcessiveAggro: sudo won't work before the echo since the IO-redirect is what needs it
[21:14] <ExcessiveAggro> TJ you have better terminology than me :)
[21:14] <ExcessiveAggro> ahh thats right
[21:14] <tyranttyler> still perm denied
[21:14] <RoseBus> oh wait, just installing the .deb
[21:14] <ExcessiveAggro> ... sudo su
[21:14] <ExcessiveAggro> then do the echo command
[21:15] <oerheks> install the ...0ubuntu7_amd64.deb jups
[21:15] <ExcessiveAggro> tyranttyler - after you do the sudo su - and the echo - make sure you type
[21:15] <TJ-> tyranttyler: echo "UUID=$(blkid -s UUID -o value /dev/nvme1n1p1) /data ext4 defaults,nosuid,nodev 0 2" | sudo tee -a /etc/fstab"
[21:15] <ExcessiveAggro> exit - you dont want to stay in root
[21:15] <RoseBus> TJ- it is nvidia
[21:15] <tyranttyler> boom did that
[21:16] <tyranttyler> let me check that file to make sure
[21:16] <RoseBus> i'm using proprietary drivers from nvidia, the recommended ones
[21:16] <ExcessiveAggro> or you can use TJ method which pipes everything through another command that you can sudo lol
[21:16] <tyranttyler> I checked and its in there
[21:16] <ExcessiveAggro> I remember seeing a meme somewhere talking about how many commands you could get in a single linux line... would love to see that competition
[21:17] <tyranttyler> thats awesome ha
[21:17] <ExcessiveAggro> tyranttyler | have to leave but i think you can get back to your guide now
[21:17] <tyranttyler> ok nooow im good... ill go back to guide
[21:17] <tyranttyler> thank you very much for the help
[21:18] <ExcessiveAggro> you bet - i learned something from TJ so was good for both of us
[21:18] <tyranttyler> enjoy your day
[21:18] <ExcessiveAggro> btw that VM you created has another 280gb nvme drive in it... may want to partition that and use it some day since you're paying for it :)
[21:19] <tyranttyler> yeah probably will, maybe use it for perforce
[21:20] <tyranttyler> one question
[21:20] <tyranttyler> # Upload source from your workstation via scp to your new AWS instance
[21:20] <tyranttyler> Will this command put it on the correct partition we created?
[21:20] <tyranttyler> scp -i FILELOCATIONLOCALLY.pem FILELOCATIONLOCALLY.zip ubuntu@SERVERIP
[21:20] <tyranttyler> :/home/ubuntu
[21:21] <TJ-> tyranttyler: if you want it in /data/ you'd use ubuntu@SERVERIP:/data/
[21:21] <TJ-> tyranttyler: that assumes 'ubuntu' as write permissions
[21:21] <tyranttyler> Will that put it on nvme1n1p1 ?
[21:22] <TJ-> tyranttyler: no, it'll put it on '/data/' - whatever that mountpoint is
[21:22] <TJ-> tyranttyler: if you've mounted /dev/nvme1n1p1 /data/ then yes it would
[21:23] <tyranttyler> Because when I unzipp it in the later steps and follow the Setup project section, I got disk size full issues...
[21:23] <tyranttyler> Ok
[21:23] <tyranttyler> Yeah I believe we mounted /dev/nvme1n1p1 /data/
[21:23] <tyranttyler> How could I check its mounted?
[21:24] <TJ-> tyranttyler: "mount" or "findmnt /data"
[21:24] <TJ-> tyranttyler: if it isn't the "sudo mount /data"
[21:24] <tyranttyler> yup its mounted
[21:25] <tyranttyler> "/data  /dev/nvme1n1p1 ext4   rw,relatime"
[21:25] <subfj> ubuntu 20.04 server need this machine to show its hostname when running an ip scan from another system on the network, how would i do this?
[21:25] <tyranttyler> so that means I should change the command to:
[21:25] <tyranttyler> scp -i FILELOCATIONLOCALLY.pem FILELOCATIONLOCALLY.zip ubuntu@SERVERIP
[21:25] <tyranttyler> :/data/
[21:27] <tyranttyler> mmmh permission denied when I tried that
[21:27] <TJ-> tyranttyler: so 'ubuntu' doesn't have the correct permissions on /data/ to write/add files
[21:27] <tyranttyler> gotcha
[21:28] <tyranttyler> do I chmod ? lol
[21:28] <TJ-> tyranttyler: I just looked back; you issued the chown/chmod commands BEFORE rather than AFTER mounting /data/ which is why you have this issue. Issue those commands again
[21:28] <tyranttyler> aw gotcha
[21:29] <tyranttyler> these two: "sudo chgrp ubuntu /data" "
[21:29] <tyranttyler> sudo chown ubuntu /data"
[21:29] <TJ-> tyranttyler: when you do it before you only change the empty mountpoint directory. When you mount another file-system at that point its permissions overlay and hide those of the mountpoint on the parent file-system
[21:30] <tyranttyler> ok gotcha so now I will run those two commands
[21:30] <TJ-> remember that /data/ is in your root file-system but when you mount a file-system there, /data/ is actually the 'root' directory of the mounted file-system (you can tell its the 'root' due to the lost+found directory being there)
[21:31] <tyranttyler> Ok well I just ran those two commands then in a new terminal window ran: "scp -i FILELOCATIONLOCALLY.pem FILELOCATIONLOCALLY.zip ubuntu@SERVERIP:/data/"
[21:32] <tyranttyler> and its uploading..
[21:32] <tyranttyler> is this correct?
[21:32] <TJ-> tyranttyler: it sounds to be
[21:32] <tyranttyler> Ok ill find out when I try to install unzip and unpack the source files
[21:38] <gartt> Looks like I found an ubuntu bug: In Settings --> Power --> Wi-Fi Turn off Wi-Fi to save power, if you slide the toggle to off, it turns off wifi, even though it's simply supposed to prevent wifi from turning off to save power
[21:40] <JmaJeremy> i think that is the intended functionality, maybe it's just not well described in the settings
[21:40] <jeremy31> It has been that way for a few years
[21:41] <JmaJeremy> it's just saying, you can save power by turning off wifi, and then it gives you a shortcut to turn off the wifi
[21:42] <gartt> Then why would anyone look to turn off the wifi in power management to save power? Then should dimming the screen be in power management as well, for the same reasons?
[21:42] <tyranttyler> I wouldn't;t think you would want WIFI to auto turn off to save power..
[21:43] <gartt> Neither would I, but it's right below the screen lock time settings
[21:43] <tyranttyler> But it does sound like an odd GUI placement for sure... I suppose...
[21:44] <tyranttyler> but again this coming from a guy who just learned how to mount a disk using terminal... so im not one to talk
[21:44] <gartt> If that's not the issue, looks like ubuntu is turning off my wifi card sometimes (sometimes I can SSH to the box from inside the LAN, sometimes I can't), but then when I go and physically log into the box, the wifi card wakes up and all is good for a few hours or even the day
[21:47] <tyranttyler> stupid question but will unzip /data/UnrealEngine-4.26.zip put this in /data/ folder after unzip or root
[21:50] <tyranttyler> dang it I ran into the same issue
[21:52] <NickBusey> Sorry if this is the wrong channel to ask this. I have an old MBP, 2005 I think. I can launch the Ubuntu 20.04 desktop installer on it, install Ubuntu, everything looks peachy. Then I reboot to try and actually use Ubuntu, and the screen just fades to white, then turns off, then that's it. Any ideas?
[21:56] <tyranttyler> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JTTnRjPp7M/
[21:56] <tyranttyler> So im getting an error "Failed to download 'http://cdn.unrealengine.com/dependencies/UnrealEngine-13930403-9520a921b80a433aab763f85a337afcf/220ab905d2c885582a1e6d1c1c18fa43af053aca': Disk full. Path /home/ubuntu/UnrealEngine-4.26/Engine/Content/Functions/Engine_MaterialFunctions01/Math (IOException)"
[21:56] <NickBusey> "Disk Full."
[21:57] <tyranttyler> Yeah that's what iv been asking... how do I put the zip file, open it onto the correct disk that has a larger file size
[21:58] <tyranttyler> This is the PDF that we were following so we are now at Install, Unzip, and Unpack Source Files section... https://cdn2.unrealengine.com/unreal-engine-multi-user-cloud-setup-360515954.pdf
[22:01] <phillipsjk256> NickBusey, Does that machine have UEFI? You now need the legacy server installer to insall on a legacy BIOS machine. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/focal/daily/current/
[22:02] <phillipsjk256> (ask me how I know)
[22:02] <NickBusey> phillipsjk256: I'm trying to install the Desktop, not Server. It does have UEFI
[22:04] <phillipsjk256> I am as well (stuck on choosing what desktop flavour to install)
[22:05] <subfj> how do you get ubuntu 20.04 to return its hostname when you scan the network?
[22:07] <TJ-> subfj: one way is via multicastDNS, which the avahi-daemon does the advertising for
[22:08] <subfj> thanks
[22:09] <TJ-> subfj: on the clients you'll need 'libnss-mdns' that'll add itself into /etc/nsswitch.conf as a hosts: resolver too
[22:09] <ExcessiveAggro> tyranttyler | just got back to my pc - you still have questions?
[22:10] <subfj> TJ so I have a raspberry pi running ubuntu 20.04 server, when i scan the network i want it to show its ip which it does and responds to ping but does not show me the hostname of the pi. so I am making these changes on the pi that you are referencing
[22:10] <oerheks> subfj, more likely an issue for opencanary?
[22:11] <TJ-> subfj: what do you mean by "scan"?
[22:11] <subfj> oerheks: well i want it to be louder and give away a hostname if i can
[22:12] <subfj> TJ like run an ip scan with lanscan, advanced ip scanner or angry ip scanner or such
[22:13] <TJ-> subfj: it'd depend on how those tools try to determine the hostname. mDNS is a pretty standard method
[22:13] <subfj> tried all 3 tools and no dice
[22:13] <subfj> thinking i dont have something set correctly on the pi
[22:14] <TJ-> avahi-daemon does multicast broadcasts advertising itself which other hosts learn
[22:15] <subfj> TJ https://gist.github.com/davisford/5984768
[22:15] <subfj> I'll just try the daemon first, thanks
[22:17] <subfj> that did the trick, thanks TJ and oerheks for your help
[22:17] <subfj> TJ-: *
[22:29] <phillipsjk256> aptitude does not seem to know how to resolve task selection conflish between differing architectures.
[22:30] <phillipsjk256> Would not be so annoying it did not interrupt me every time with "no more solutions"
[22:31] <oerheks> maybe apt ismore helpfull?
[22:31] <oerheks> apt is superiour over apt-get, not sure what arch issues you encounter..
[22:42] <phillipsjk256> Just trying to istall the Ubuntu Studio task to get a GUI going.
[22:42] <phillipsjk256> Not sure apt supports "tasks"
[22:43] <phillipsjk256> But the taks has packages for both architectures.
[22:47] <phillipsjk256> The Blurb for the legacy server ISO says it won't install a gui: I wonder if it is multiarch for compatibilty, but that breaks X installation.
[23:00] <razorback> How to change installer's default encrypted LVM volume group name cleanly for dual boot? I have changed from "vgubuntu" to something else in grub.cfg and fstab. It does boot okay but apparently there are still references to the old group's name and it slows down the boot process significantly. Ubuntu 20.04.
[23:02] <razorback> I'm somewhat amazed of the lack of current information about this topic on the internet.
[23:29]  * cbreak boots from encrypted zfs, seems to work fine so far, no lvm involved
[23:36] <RoseBus> i solved the issue, in case anyone was wondering, in nvidia-settings i enabled the option for one monitor to "enable gsync on device not verified compatible with gsync"
[23:36] <RoseBus> and now dual screen monitors works
[23:40] <ExcessiveAggro> very cool - great nes RoseBus
[23:40] <ExcessiveAggro> news