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[07:15] <lubot> [telegram] <devilhere> Can I ask for solution here?
[07:19] <lubot> [telegram] <Leokolb> #lubuntu is the support channel (re @devilhere: Can I ask for solution here?)
[07:19] <lubot> [telegram] <devilhere> Okay
[07:20] <lubot> [telegram] <devilhere> Thanks
[07:20] <lubot> [telegram] <devilhere> Can't find
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[13:33] <RyuKurisu[m]> !support
[13:33] <ubot93> For Lubuntu support, please join the #lubuntu channel on IRC or https://telegram.lubuntu.me/support for Telegram. Also, at https://forum.lubuntu.me you can find our Discourse forum.
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[21:01] <kc2bez> Hello yinz!
[21:01] <kc2bez> !standup
[21:01] <ubot93> @tsimonq2 @lynorian @HMollerCl @aptghetto @teward001 @kc2bez @The_LoudSpeaker wxl[m] guiverc @N0um3n0 @leokolb @KGIII — It's 2100 UTC Thursday which means it's time for the Lubuntu Development standup meeting. Please announce yourself for roll call! Then, in order of announcement, post your items, and be sure to mention when you're done.
[21:01] <lubot> [telegram] <Leokolb> o/
[21:01] <KGIII> Here.
[21:04] <wxl> here
[21:04] <wxl> prepared even, much wow
[21:04] <kc2bez> ack @Leokolb KGIII and wxl
[21:05] <kc2bez> @Leokolb lead us off.
[21:05] <lubot> [telegram] <Leokolb> QA-testing -bit more emphasis on hardware - print/networking/scanning/bluetooth/audio/video
[21:05] <lubot> [telegram] <Leokolb> also ran tests on @wxl rasp Pi4 post in discourse
[21:06] <lubot> [telegram] <Leokolb> about it - done
[21:06] <kc2bez> Nice, thanks for that!
[21:06] <kc2bez> KGIII: How is it going for you?
[21:06] <KGIII> I have been exceptionally busy, still. I was hoping things would get squared away sooner, but they haven't. I haven't even had time to switch to 20.04. I haven't even had time to do any support. I have made the time to do daily live testing and I'll continue to make the time to do that - as I said I would at the start. I've had some personal impact with COVID (not me personally, lost two friends so far), which takes some of my tim
[21:06] <KGIII> e. Still, I'll make the time. 
[21:06] <wxl> thanks @leo!
[21:07] <KGIII> (Also, 'done' - as that was everything.)
[21:07] <wxl> @KGIII: our condolences for your loss and many thanks for your help, no matter how big or small. 
[21:07] <kc2bez> Sorry to read the sad news. Thanks for all your help KGIII
[21:08] <KGIII> Thanks. It sucks, but at least testing gives me a bit of distraction. And, you're certainly welcome. 
[21:08] <wxl> oh i guess it's my turn huh? XD
[21:08] <kc2bez> wxl: go ahead
[21:08] <lubot> [telegram] <Leokolb> @KGIII sorry to hear about yr friends
[21:08] <wxl> i'm going to do this in spurts because i have a rather long paste
[21:08] <wxl> * BUG TRIAGE 
[21:08] <wxl>    * Commented on bug 1902497 and it needs `NotShowIn` ☹
[21:08] <wxl>    * Confirmed expired bug 1827415 but I can't figure out why
[21:08] <wxl>      * If anyone's got some good ideas, I'm all ears
[21:08] <wxl>      * Note I also found a problem in rDEFAULTSETTINGS with libfm and the terminal
[21:08] <wxl>    * Set bug 1910934 as incomplete
[21:08] <wxl>      * If anyone isn't annoyed by natural scrolling, might want to do long-term tests
[21:08] <ubot93> Bug 1902497 in lxqt-session (Ubuntu) "Hibernation fails Lubuntu 20.10 and 21.04" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1902497
[21:08] <wxl>    * Digging through old stuff, set bug 1864791 as incomplete
[21:09] <ubot93> Bug 1827415 in pcmanfm-qt (Ubuntu) "In Lubuntu 19.04, a file does not open on double-click when vim is configured as default application for this filetype" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1827415
[21:09] <ubot93> Bug 1910934 in lxqt-config (Ubuntu) "lxqt loses natural scrolling" [Undecided, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1910934
[21:09] <ubot93> Bug 1864791 in calamares (Ubuntu) "Lubuntu failed install 'wipefs --all /dev/sda9'" [Undecided, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1864791
[21:09] <wxl>  * TASKS
[21:09] <wxl>    * Commented on Qt6 port task; tl;dr not looking good
[21:09] <wxl>      * https://phab.lubuntu.me/T118#4062
[21:09] <wxl>  * COMMITS
[21:09] <wxl>    * Minor commits to rNEWREL README to add a links
[21:09] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] Port LXQt to Qt 6: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T118#4062
[21:09] <wxl>      * https://phab.lubuntu.me/rNEWRELbf6c0b53618c5acbba96026fd5bef832ab49d856
[21:10] <wxl>  * UPSTREAM
[21:10] <wxl>    * There's now an upstream forum (GitHub Discussions); made pull request to fix website
[21:10] <wxl>      * https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt.github.io/pull/54
[21:10] <wxl>    * Made some comments on two desktopify bugs to try to get SDDM behaving with Pi
[21:10] <wxl>      * https://github.com/wimpysworld/desktopify/issues/63#issuecomment-756956285
[21:10] <wxl>      * https://github.com/wimpysworld/desktopify/issues/19#issuecomment-756955440
[21:10] <wxl>    * Made pull request to remove Openbox config from lxqt-session
[21:10] <ubot93> Pull 54 in lxqt/lxqt.github.io "Change email list to GitHub Discussions page" [Open]
[21:10] <wxl>      * https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-session/pull/359
[21:10] <ubot93> Issue 63 in wimpysworld/desktopify "Unable to boot into desktop mode after lubuntu install" [Open]
[21:10] <ubot93> Issue 19 in wimpysworld/desktopify "cloud-init error when installing kubuntu" [Open]
[21:10] <ubot93> Pull 359 in lxqt/lxqt-session "Remove Openbox configuration for WM agnosticism." [Open]
[21:10] <wxl>  * DOCUMENTATION
[21:10] <wxl>    * Created doc about Raspberry Pi installation using Wimpy's desktopify
[21:10] <wxl>      * https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/raspberry-pi-installation/2050
[21:10] <wxl>    * Started adding Documentation Team on Phab as editors of wiki docs
[21:10] <wxl>      * My thinking here is that this team could act as a wiki team as well
[21:10] <wxl>      * Added note on main wiki page to ask this team for edit access
[21:10] <wxl>      * I will add additional wiki docs as I go and ask admins to do the same (or better, use the API)
[21:10] <wxl>        * BTW admins do not inheriently have edit rights, so a custom policy needs to be created
[21:10] <wxl>    * Added RyuKurisu to the Documentation Team on Phab
[21:10] <wxl>      * Long ago, he was part of our wiki team
[21:10] <wxl>    * Started a FAQ on the wiki
[21:10] <wxl>      * https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/faq/
[21:10] <wxl>      * Feel free to add (but you'll need to be on the Documentation Team; just ask!)
[21:10] <wxl>    * Edited the main Lubuntu wiki page to direct to the manual and docs on Discourse
[21:11] <wxl>  * MISCELLANEOUS
[21:11] <wxl>    * Communicated with an artist interested in helping us out! 
[21:11] <wxl>      * Hopefully we'll have a new Lenny and Calamares slideshow soon!
[21:11] <wxl>  * TESTING
[21:11] <wxl>  * INFRASTRUCTURE
[21:11] <wxl>    * Turned Discourse's tutorial bot into Lenny of Borg :)
[21:11] <wxl>    * Made a small change to part of the initial tutorial bot's welcome message:
[21:11] <wxl>      * --- we temporarily limit what new users can do.
[21:11] <wxl>        +++ we enable small, temporary limits on what new users can do that are easily circumvented.
[21:11] <wxl>    * Added a note to the support instructions page to make sure to go through the tutorial.
[21:11] <The_LoudSpeaker> o/
[21:11] <wxl> (see, i didn't do any testing, so glad ya'll did!)
[21:11] <wxl>  * TODO
[21:11] <wxl>    * Investigate/triage 1827415 some more.
[21:11] <wxl>    * Fix the bug with lubuntu settings regarding libfm config found in above.
[21:11] <wxl> also i need to finish my whole addition of the doc team to all the wiki pages
[21:11] <wxl> questions, comments, concerns?
[21:12] <KGIII> Man, you do a lot. Thanks!
[21:12] <lubot> [telegram] <Leokolb> Wow
[21:12]  * The_LoudSpeaker doesn't have anything much to say. Was luckily awake ro see the notification.
[21:12] <wxl> i do when i'm motivated XD
[21:12] <wxl> OH
[21:12] <wxl> one more thing
[21:12] <wxl> i'm working on a script to check and see if we have any packages in our packageset that haven't merged
[21:13] <lubot> [telegram] <Leokolb> I think discourse is looking real good as is the whole web site
[21:13] <wxl> yeah i think discourse is shaping up nicely
[21:13] <kc2bez> I agree
[21:13] <wxl> i clearly screwed up with regards to the website though :(
[21:13] <kc2bez> Thanks for all that wxl
[21:13] <kc2bez> It is ok
[21:14] <wxl> we had someone who was motivated about fixing it and i just dropped the ball :/
[21:14] <lubot> [telegram] <Leokolb> big thanks wxl
[21:14] <kc2bez> also ack The_LoudSpeaker
[21:14] <wxl> we DO need to get our merges done soon
[21:14] <kc2bez> I know.
[21:14] <wxl> @tsimonq2 had, i think, taken that assignment but ?
[21:14] <kc2bez> yup
[21:15] <wxl> so after i'm done with this script, if he hasn't made any movement, i'll get started on it
[21:15] <kc2bez> Ok here is what I have, it touches on some of wxl 's
[21:15] <wxl> if anyone wants to learn packaging.............................................
[21:15] <kc2bez> * Tested pi installs using desktopify and wxl 's instructions on my 3b+
[21:15] <kc2bez> * I tested Lubuntu, Kubuntu, and Mate using the 20.04.1 server image after I added the `start_x=1` line. They all worked as they should.
[21:15] <kc2bez> * Following my tests I submitted a PR https://github.com/wimpysworld/desktopify/pull/66
[21:15] <kc2bez> * I made a couple of minor tweaks to the wiki docs on discourse for the swapfile and the pi install.
[21:15] <kc2bez> * I amended the release notes re: the cala timezone issue for 20.04 and 20.04.1 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calamares/+bug/1904974
[21:15] <ubot93> Pull 66 in wimpysworld/desktopify "Add video fix for SDDM to work properly." [Open]
[21:15] <ubot93> Launchpad bug 1904974 in calamares (Ubuntu) "calamares selected wrong timezone" [Undecided, Confirmed]
[21:16] <lubot> [telegram] <N0um3n0> I agree! (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <wxl> yeah i think discourse is shaping up nicely)
[21:16] <wxl> oh nice
[21:16] <kc2bez> That and the regular support things
[21:16] <kc2bez> That is all I have this week.
[21:17] <wxl> right, i heard that
[21:17] <wxl> thanks again dan
[21:17]  * kc2bez bows
[21:17] <kc2bez> np
[21:17] <lubot> [telegram] <Leokolb> thanks dan
[21:17] <wxl> ok any other questions comments or concerns
[21:17] <wxl> ?
[21:18] <kc2bez> Thanks everyone!
[21:18] <KGIII> Why isn't there any real reference/links to the support sites once the OS is installed? 
[21:18] <wxl> hm that's an interesting question
[21:18] <The_LoudSpeaker> Point me the to list when you have the script. Merges are small and me needs to revise stuff. 😛 
[21:18] <wxl> do any other flavors do something similar?
[21:19] <wxl> or even any other distro?
[21:19] <kc2bez> Most have welcome screens :/
[21:19] <The_LoudSpeaker> Also, Thanks everyone! 🍻🍻
[21:19] <KGIII> I know things like Mint have a popup when you boot with links and stuff like that.
[21:19] <lubot> [telegram] <Leokolb> a link to support sites under Preferences would be nice
[21:19] <kc2bez> Fedora puts a bunch of bookmarks in FireFox
[21:19] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker: you can start with the four packages mentioned here https://phab.lubuntu.me/T185
[21:19] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Unbreak Now!, Open] deal with merges: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T185
[21:20] <wxl> oh the bookmarks are a stupid simple idea
[21:20] <KGIII> I was thinking that it could be added to the about panel, maybe.
[21:20] <KGIII> https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-about/blob/master/aboutdialog/lxqtaboutdialog.cpp
[21:20] <wxl> we did have the beginnings of a welcome center, which i think is like what mint has https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/welcome/
[21:20] <lubot> [telegram] <N0um3n0> around here, global support, there is more and more movement in the channels, especially in Italian
[21:20] <kc2bez> Nice!
[21:20] <wxl> that's what we like to hear @N0um3n0!!!!
[21:21] <lubot> [telegram] <N0um3n0> ;)
[21:21] <kc2bez> I got a little stuck with the welcome center.
[21:21] <The_LoudSpeaker> Arghhh!! Why doesn't phab have a dark mode. My eyes hurt with all the bright background. teward get us a good dark mode for phab. XD
[21:21] <wxl> can someone make a task about the general idea and include some of this ideas?
[21:21] <wxl> i would say the big ones are:
[21:21] <wxl>  1. firefox bookmarks
[21:22] <wxl>  2. an *about lubuntu* desktop entry
[21:22] <wxl>  3. welcome center (which is a much bigger project)
[21:22] <wxl> i imagine we could create a pyqt pop up for the about lubuntu really easily
[21:22] <wxl> alternately we could use kdialog
[21:23] <wxl> since others had suggested having kdialog included in the install, that would also fulfill that desire
[21:23] <kc2bez> Here is the welcome task https://phab.lubuntu.me/T17
[21:23] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Low, Open] Write a Welcome Center: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T17
[21:23] <wxl> kdialog is SO simple
[21:23] <wxl> kc2bez: yeah i'm thinking more of a parent one where that's a subtask
[21:23] <The_LoudSpeaker> Firefox bookmarks is really stupid simple idea but works like a charm. 
[21:23] <kc2bez> Right just to reference in the parent task
[21:24] <wxl> yeah the firefox bookmarks could be done in rDEFAULTSETTINGS
[21:24] <teward> go build one @The_LoudSpeaker 
[21:24] <teward> there is none by default
[21:24] <The_LoudSpeaker> Mah favourite repo in all phab.
[21:24] <teward> and i aint gonna make a theme for you lol
[21:25]  * The_LoudSpeaker slides a cup of coffee to teward
[21:25] <teward> now lemme rest I has a migraine
[21:25] <wxl> https://discourse.phabricator-community.org/t/dark-mode-experiment/60
[21:25] <The_LoudSpeaker> How about now?
[21:25] <The_LoudSpeaker> XD
[21:25] <teward> how about ERR:MIGRAINEHEADACHE_RESTREQUIRES
[21:25]  * genii drinks teward's untouched coffee
[21:26] <kc2bez> You can enable dark mode but yeah experimental.
[21:26] <kc2bez> Code blocks look janky.
[21:26] <The_LoudSpeaker> Yup. 
[21:27] <The_LoudSpeaker> I use a extension on desktop. But on phone it's a nightmare.
[21:27] <wxl> eh they don't look horrible
[21:27] <wxl> i love how dark mode is actually still blue XD
[21:27] <teward> its Midnight xD
[21:27] <wxl> anywho
[21:27] <kc2bez> It is usable, i agree
[21:27] <teward> but meh.  rest time for me for a bit
[21:28] <wxl> night night
[21:28] <kc2bez> Yup, I need to go AFK too, ping me if you need me.
[21:28] <wxl> k thx ya'll
[21:28] <The_LoudSpeaker> Gn everyone! See y'all later.
[21:28] <KGIII> Thanks, all.
[21:28] <lubot> [telegram] <Leokolb> Thanks all ..
[21:29] <lubot> [telegram] <N0um3n0> Great team!!! Thanks
[21:29] <wxl> dude dark reader ftw
[21:29] <KGIII> I'll look forward to seeing how y'all add the support links.
[21:29] <KGIII> Dark Reader is pretty awesome.
[21:30] <KGIII> There's also Sauron that does similar.
[21:30] <wxl> ok i've got a phone call to make but ping if anyone needs anything
[21:54] <The_LoudSpeaker> Yup dark reader is what I use on desktop. Just installed on phone too now.
[22:30] <guiverc> Sorry folks for missing the meeting  (just noticed & read back)
[22:31] <wxl> np :)
[23:26] <RyuKurisu[m]> <KGIII "I have been exceptionally busy, "> Sorry to hear about your loss 😔
[23:37] <RyuKurisu[m]> <The_LoudSpeaker "Arghhh!! Why doesn't phab have a"> Try DarkReader for Firefox, also works on mobile 😊