[00:00] Damn you leveled down PowerTower 120 [00:08] * phillipsjk256 finally got the dependecies resolved: had to disable the auto fix broken dependeciens feature of aptitude. [00:08] It was proabably undoing my work. [01:46] Hi, my /var/log/auth.log stay 0size for many days? anyone can help? thanks [01:51] Have there been any logins during that time? [01:58] phillipsjk256, sure, there are many... [01:59] i'm guessing this isn't good, https://i.imgur.com/hD076QC.png [01:59] "syncing filesystems and block devices - timed out" [02:01] hah finally restarted (took a long time) === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [02:15] ok, it's close === xclaesse5 is now known as xclaesse [02:43] is Ubuntu 20.04 setup to scrub zfs pools automatically? [03:02] looks like every sunday at 00:24 except the second sunday of the month? [03:23] hello folks! i am running Ubuntu 20.4.1 [03:25] 5 year long term support! [03:28] i totally love it! [03:29] !discuss | loganlee welcome to ubuntu [03:29] loganlee welcome to ubuntu: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks! [04:05] is it possible to have 2 different images for wallpaper on 2 separate monitors? [04:12] RoseBus I suspect so. In the past I had xscreensaver displaying two different random scrren savers on two monitors. [04:13] i'm looking into hydrapaper [04:13] it's just that i have one monitor in portrait mode and the wallpaper zooms in and doesn't look right [04:21] Based on this page, hydrapaper cheats and makes one large image: https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2019/07/hydrapaper-different-wallpaper-each-monitor-ubuntu/ [04:26] Help, must be doing something wrong? https://paste.opensuse.org/93935715 [04:28] Are you trying to install the Microsoft Edge web browser? It probably needs WINE installed. [04:28] !info libatomic1 focal [04:29] libatomic1 (source: gcc-10): support library providing __atomic built-in functions. In component main, is optional. Version 10.2.0-5ubuntu1~20.04 (focal), package size 9 kB, installed size 45 kB [04:30] Randolf, nope wine not needed.... [04:31] last install it just worked....install borked so I reinstalled and now I'm here [04:31] video worked and all.... [04:31] donofrio_: ^^ But, try as ' sudo apt -f install ' and see if the package manager will pick up the missing dependendie(s). [04:38] RoseBus, may have found something for you, except the documentation talks about xineram: the old way of doing multiple monitors, so may not work with xrandr. https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/539050/how-can-i-get-feh-to-set-wallpaper-to-each-monitor-according-to-its-size [04:39] Check oout the " Background Setting" section: https://linux.die.net/man/1/feh [04:42] thanks phillipsjk256 i am using hydrapaper [04:43] it does the job [04:43] i need more storage space [04:44] like shelving [04:46] The xrandr man page apparently mentions xinerama once, so it may be backward compatible. https://www.x.org/releases/X11R7.5/doc/man/man1/xrandr.1.html [04:47] RoseBus, well the distortion you talk about is cuased by the monitors sharing an image. [04:47] yup [04:50] I've recently ran into problems with my wifi pcie card not working on a 20.04 build; did a clean install and card still doesn't work. The card is an ASUS card [04:54] Also my ethernet isn't working [04:54] Helloooo [04:55] !patience | underslept [04:55] underslept: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/ [05:28] Bashing-om, yah that worked perfectly - thank you! [05:29] donofrio_: :D [05:44] I installed the "Ubuntu Studio" task and got Gnome innstead of XFCE. [05:47] phillipsjk256, me too - thinking about terminal sudo apt-get install xfce myself.... [05:48] turorial was showing me a drop-down list for selecting the desktop enviroment. (logged out to check: does nto appear to be there) [05:49] I suppose I shoule check if xfce is installed or not [05:55] Looks like it was not installed... the meta-package is xfce4 not xfce. [05:58] openvpn just encapsulate data or it also change location?There are some websites blocked in my country. I used openvpn server on my router, it connected and running, but it doesn't unblock those websites like tiktok, bigo, adult... is it possible to unblock these streaming websites using openvpn? [06:00] Well, open VPN running on you router is just going to encrypty your LAN traffic, unless I am misunderstanding. Youo need a VPN service to get a tunnel to another country. [06:01] sanav: you need to establish a vpn connection to a remote vpn server in another location which doesn't block those websites. Then tunnel your internet traffic through the vpn. [06:01] i see... thanks [06:02] Tabmow thanks [06:02] phillipsjk256 thanks, sir [06:04] donofrio_, still not seeing the option to select a WM after a restart. Maybe I shoould use lightdm instead of gdm. (display manger) [06:14] OK, on gdm3 they moved the gear icon to the bottom right corner of the screen. [06:18] * phillipsjk256 went back to the default wm after making sure XFCE exists and can be used. [06:20] Canonical's popularity numbers are going to be skewed becuase XFCE did not prompt to send a report. [06:46] phillipsjk256: they've been broken since many years! [06:47] https://popcon.ubuntu.com/ in 2021 more 32-bit intel users than amd64? [07:07] tarzeau that cioud make some sense assumming hand-me-down PC's. New PC's come with Windows. [07:07] *could [07:08] phillipsjk256: that information clearly is wrong, and canonical knows it, i'm too lazy to find the launchpad bug reports [07:09] Yes my argument was more plausible 10 years ago, 5 years after 64bit CPUs became really common. [07:10] add 5 years to each of your numbers [07:10] i've used ultrasparcs 20 years ago, they're all 64bit, maybe not common, bot common among other unixes [07:11] does ubuntu have some https repository, similar to how debian has https://deb.debian.org/? [07:14] oxek, I tried selecting HTTPS during install and was prompted to manually enter a mirror. Maybe they are relying on PGP keys for security, and trying to be cache freindly. [07:20] phillipsjk256: maybe. But if debian can do it... [07:22] Hello everyone, with great difficulty I did sudo apt update and upgrade.It seems to be working now but now Terminal is taking a long time to open. Firefox sometimes says a webpage is slowing down your browser. How can I fix these 2 issues? === ace_me^^ is now known as ace_me [07:55] Hello [07:56] I have to ask, what would be the best solution: sda1 = main OS drive (no space left) , sdb1 = external drive (mounted to ~/downloads) [07:56] I have a program that saves files to ~/downloads2 , I want to point ~/downloads2 to ~/downloads/downloads2 [07:56] Should I use symlink or mount --bind? (using relative path for simplicity) [07:56] ln -s ~/downloads ~/downloads2 vs mount --bind ~/downloads ~/downloads/downloads2 (or is there better way to solve this. I dont use chroot so maybe symlink?) [07:58] habaner0: you cant use symlinks across fs [07:58] nevermind, you can, i was thinking hardlinks [07:58] Is it happens when we give printout using `lp`. It follows settings done by `lpoptions` but system text editor doesn't follow `lpoptions` settings? [07:58] It is happening with me. [08:03] Hey my pcie wifi card was working but broke. After fresh install I lspci and the network controller was spotted but no driver [08:05] My question is shouldn't, after 3rd party drivers installed via fresh install, the driver be available like when the card was working via prior fresh install [08:10] hi, how can I find a list of withdrawn packages, and ideally downgrade them to supported versions? [08:13] slowpoke: Ubuntu doesn't 'withdraw' packages from a release. New releases may drop a package that was previously in the archive though [08:13] TJ-: pretty sure it does so with kernel images [08:14] which may hold regressions [08:15] slowpoke: we release upgrades to fix bugs but there's no 'downgrade' [08:16] uh ok, a colleague of mine is trying to get a pr into our infra dealing with "withdrawn" packages, hence why I'm asking [08:17] but yeah, it's likely about packages that are not part of the archive anymore [08:17] slowpoke: in terms of kernel releases, we generally have two tracks. The kernel version at release and a newer kernel from later releases that are effectively backported via the HWE (HardWare Enablement) packages [08:17] this is not about HWE [08:18] this is about packages that are are only anchored in the local dpkg database, but not in a remote repository anymore [08:18] the scenario seems to be that we updated to a kernel version that was then removed from the archive [08:18] package versions that have been upgraded are removed from the archive servers, eventually [08:19] slowpoke: if the package version moved on and up that would make sense. [08:19] Hello , I was having issues with ubuntu 20.04.1 most of which disappeared after I did sudo apt update and upgrade. I am still having issues with the shell taking a very long time to load in the terminal. I wish to wipe my disk and re install ubuntu. How can I get the LATEST upgrades for ubuntu 20.04.1 === Neffscape1 is now known as Neffscape [08:19] slowpoke: e.g. linux-image-generic-5.4.0 -> 5.4.1 (you install) -> 5.4.2 (5.4.1 no longer available( [08:20] TJ-: ok, so we installed linux-headers-4.15.0-126 on 2020-12-03, it went missing from the archive on 2020-12-10 and a new version only arrived on 2020-12-13 [08:20] slowpoke: not sure what you're trying to do but this may help you. The packages and related source are still available via Launchpad [08:21] the colleague insists to remove the package that went missing from archive, to be kinda in sync again [08:22] they have a monitoring alert for when packages are not in the archive anymore and there is no upgrade that is [08:22] slowpoke: is that for 18.04 ? [08:23] yes, but the very same scenario happend with linux-headers-5.4.0-56 from 20.04 [08:23] same dates [08:24] would you credit it? launchpad.net is timing out now I'm trying to look! [08:24] credit? I don't understand [08:25] slowpoke: it's a british saying [08:26] "would you credit it?" aka "would you believe it, just when I need it it breaks" [08:26] lmao :) [08:26] hey TJ, how are you? [08:27] slowpoke: I'm checking with the sysadmins now to find out why launchpad.net is timing out, then we can look at the publishing history for those packages [08:27] TJ-: ah, that would be interesting. thanks for indulging me! [08:28] is there a way to download ubuntu 20.04.1 so that I do not need to do sudo apt update and upgrade ? [08:29] slowpoke: sometimes a package is withdrawn rapidly when a widespread regression is detected to avoid causing more installs problems [08:29] yeah, I'm expecting it was something like that [08:29] I can find reports of amdgpu dkms fails on that kernel for example [08:34] like, I think if we could find out the reason for why a withdraw happened we'd be in a much better position to reason about our situation [08:35] slowpoke: I'm looking at "apt-get changelog linux-headers-generic" to get a clue whilst waiting for launchpad to wake up [08:35] make sense [08:37] to quote that famous tv series … doesn't look like anything to me [08:43] TJ-: so this is likely the page https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+publishinghistory [08:43] the regression was "Raid data loss LP: #1907262" afaict [08:43] Launchpad bug 1907262 in linux (Ubuntu Groovy) "raid10: discard leads to corrupted file system" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1907262 [08:44] slowpoke: from "apt-get changelog linux-headers-4.15.0-128" it looks like there was a severe regression in -125 affecting raid10 which had to be reverted in -128 [08:44] slowpoke: snap :) [08:45] i had a hard time finding the correct history with apt changelog :) [08:47] yes; it takes some digging to id the correct package to check. I did "apt list 'linux-headers-4.15.0*' | less " then browsed to find the latest after -126 and then used "apt-get changelog" on that package name [08:50] so if we would have been affected we likely should've downgraded [08:50] since there was no upgrade available at the time [08:50] (which is reasonable) [09:03] Is there a guide to configure binutils [09:05] slowpoke: I still can't get to the publishing history so it isn't clear when the replacement was published. I'd guess the replacement would have been in bionic-proposed immediately but unless you have that pocket enabled you would effectively see versions step-back [09:07] slowpoke: here's the URL for the publishing history https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+publishinghistory [09:07] TJ-: looks like the one I posted 25m ago :) [09:08] slowpoke: oh aye! [09:08] I've been doing other things :) [09:08] np [09:09] I will just recommend that we look more into why things were withdrawn ig [09:09] TJ-: ^-^ your also ignoring me. [09:10] I'm surprised such obviously invasive patches weren't subjected to manual thorough testing [09:10] * chalarm slaps TJ- with a bad Linux distro [09:10] * TJ- wipes Ubuntu off [09:10] ^-^ === edk_ is now known as e [10:01] test [10:01] Hello, which Ubuntu file should I download? https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libpcsclite1 [10:02] https://dpaste.org/gANy [10:02] The hypervisor is based on Debian Buster (10.6), however this wpa file seems to refer to Ubuntu files? [10:03] then don't download any, just use apt to install packages [10:04] The machine has no Internet. I need to download, then transfer to non Internet machine. [10:04] Seveas: not install to Interent machine. [10:04] then download packages from the debian archives, not the ubuntu one [10:04] Seveas: ok, this is where the error led me to, shall search. [10:05] https://packages.debian.org/buster/wpasupplicant [10:06] Seveas: thanks, I have downloaded wpa, but on the hypervisor machine, an install error appears, missing the library from this link I just found https://packages.debian.org/buster/amd64/libpcsclite1/download [10:06] https://packages.debian.org/buster/libpcsclite1 [10:06] and you'll need the same for the other missing package [10:09] thx [10:17] Hey Everyone. If I wanted to add a custom shortcut to my QuickSearck lookup table. How do I do that? For instance if I click start and just start typing my shortcut should pop up there? [10:18] cart_man: add a desktop file to ~/.local/share/applications and restart the pc/relogin [10:23] Is there any way to restore the encrypted password string for a user in /etc/shadow? [10:27] zetheroo: how do you mean? [10:27] zetheroo: yes; manually generate the password using the existing (known) salt - if you don't know what the salt is/was then no [10:28] zetheroo: password + salt = stored hash [10:38] ok, I was able to do it with: [10:38] perl -e 'print crypt("password","\$6\$saltsalt\$") . "\n"' [10:38] shouldn't the salt be stored along with the hashed password? [10:39] eeeew, crypt [10:39] I then dropped the entire output ($6$saltsalt$qFmFH.bQmmtXzyBY0s9v7Oicd2z4XSIecDzlB5KiA2/jctKu9YterLp8wwnSq.qc.eoxqOmSuNp2xS0ktL3nh/) into the respective area in /etc/shadow [10:39] now the sudo command works correctly again for the user [10:39] with the correct password :) [11:24] Hey I've installed a driver via downloading the module through my phone and installed it with dkms_install. It isn't showing in additional drivers though nor is my wifi card working [11:24] Any clues? [11:26] have you loaded the module? [11:26] underslept: there are currently a lot of bugs going on for kernel 5.8 [11:26] How do I load the module? [11:26] underslept: rtl8812au? [11:26] underslept: ubuntu version, kernel version and your hardware chipsets would be handy [11:26] sudo modprobe nameofmodule [11:27] lsmod will show you the currently loaded modules [11:30] Yes jeremy [11:31] underslept: in terminal, check> mokutil --sb-state [11:32] 20.04lts 5.4 [11:33] jeremy31: I ran that command [11:33] What else [11:33] underslept: what did is say? [11:33] Secure boot disabled. Platform is in setup mode [11:34] underslept: post URL from terminal for> lsusb | nc termbin.com 9999 [11:34] I don't have internet connection [11:35] underslept: can you USB tether to a smart phone? [11:35] How? [11:36] With android, just connect USB cable to phone and computer, go into network settings on phone and enable USB tether [11:37] How do I load rtl8812au module [11:38] underslept: if you have rebooted since the dkms install, it should have loaded if it was the correct module for the device [11:39] underslept: try> sudo modprobe 88XXau [11:39] underslept: modprobe? If it's a mismatch I presume you'll get a descriptive error [11:39] Have to go to work [11:40] How do I get into network on phone [11:40] Damn [11:51] Howdy folks! [11:51] There is a bug in the command-not-found package which is around for quite a while (https://bugs.launchpad.net/command-not-found/+bug/1824000). I filed a patch to fix it, but could not get answer from any maintainer. [11:51] Does somebody know how can I poke around and understand who is the maintainer of the package and how to reach him? I looked around in launchpad and emailed a few people, but got no response. [11:51] Any help is appreciated :) [11:51] Launchpad bug 1824000 in command-not-found "command-not-found crashes: unable to open database file (stack trace)" [High,Triaged] === mIk3_09 is now known as mIk3_08 [12:34] Hi folks [12:43] If you had to choose between an AMD or Nvidia graphics card for Ubuntu, and you could not select a specific model of card .. just based on the overall Linux support for the brands ... which would you choose? [12:43] !discuss | zetheroo [12:43] zetheroo: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks! [12:44] ok [12:50] Is there an ubuntu-server version? The program needs Ubuntu xenial, but I thought there might be a smaller server version? [12:50] linuxmint: https://ubuntu.com/download/server [12:53] zetheroo: thanks, I found that also, however it's a 20.01.1 LTS, my program needs 16.04 LTS, if there's an older server version? [12:54] linuxmint, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases/16.04.7/release/ [12:56] linuxmint, be aware, it's almost EOL(april 30, 2021) [12:56] !EOL [12:56] End-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop. Make sure to update Ubuntu before it goes EOL so you get updates promptly for newly-discovered security vulnerabilities. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades [12:56] coconut: thanks, can't do much about it, as ZoneMinder takes that OS version. [12:57] there's a lot of arm versions. I just need a amd64.iso version. [12:58] maybe ppc64el.iso, I'll research what's comap [12:58] *compatible with my amd64 machine. [12:59] oh! indeed no amd64 version for the 16.04.7 release! [13:00] no worries, I'll download the desktop version for amd64 then. [13:00] linuxmint, complain about it on #ubuntu-server [13:01] linuxmint: you can put ZoneMinder inside a 16.04 container for example [13:01] linuxmint: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/16.04.5/ubuntu-16.04.1-server-amd64.iso [13:01] coconut: best to complain at the Zoneminder devs [13:02] linuxmint: install that and then update to latest available 16.04 release [13:02] zetheroo: seems to have found amd64.iso [13:02] linuxmint: more here http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/16.04.5/ [13:03] linuxmint: the newest one is http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/16.04.5/ubuntu-16.04.6-server-amd64.iso [13:03] no Internet on the ubuntu-server machine. Need to download files to this desktop Internet machine, then transfer over via LAN. [13:03] linuxmint: ok then grab the 16.04.6 ISO [13:04] ok. the container looks good too. [13:09] I am asking again, as the message before got no traction- how can I find the maintainers of a specific package? [13:09] There is a bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/command-not-found/+bug/1824000) that is yet to be addressed for quite a while in the command-not-found package [13:09] Launchpad bug 1824000 in command-not-found "command-not-found crashes: unable to open database file (stack trace)" [High,Triaged] [13:38] Hi there, on Ubuntu 18 I am setting some rules via `arptables`, but I am finding that they are lost when I reboot. I have Google'd a bunch, but have found no information on how to preserve the rules across a reboot. Can someone tell me how to preserve the rules? [13:42] it's been about a decade since I've tried this.. is SANE still the norm for scanning a documenter over a network [13:42] s/documenter/document/ [14:11] Hi; I extended the sda disk in Vmware vCenter from 20 GB to 30 GB, but lsblk still says it's 20 GB. How can say the distro to denote added space without restarting? [14:14] elcar: try partprobe [14:14] It rescans partitions, doesn't it? (not the disk) [14:16] hmm, true [14:18] elcar: https://serverfault.com/questions/306737/how-do-i-get-centos-vm-to-re-read-its-increased-disk-size-without-a-reboot has some tips [14:18] even though that says centos, that should be applicable to ubuntu too [14:22] iamtheworstdev: simple-scan tends to work for me [14:24] for networked scanners or physically attached scanners (usb) [14:24] iamtheworstdev: networked [14:27] adamretter: install itables-persistent and netfilter-persistent, then create a new netfilter-persistent plugin based on /usr/share/netfilter-persistent/plugins.d/15-ip4tables to save/restore arp tables. I'm surprised there isn't such a plugin yet :) [14:28] nononoha: https://launchpad.net/command-not-found says it's https://launchpad.net/~command-not-found-developers [14:29] {ip,arp,eb}tables are all deprecated and replaced so not much point [14:30] True [14:31] I should really learn nft sometime soon :) [14:32] with eBPF there's some amazing power and flexibility being unleashed [14:33] Seveas, any chance you had to edit any sane files for that? [14:33] iamtheworstdev: nope. I just start it and it sees my hp scanner and I can scan. Probably some bonjour/avahi magic going on there [14:35] iamtheworstdev: for HP devices, you'd need hplip drivers installed [14:36] iamtheworstdev: for other scanner devices, usually they'll need some driver to interface with SANE backend scanner [14:36] I have hp network scanners, and indeed do have hplip installed. Don't remember installing it, but this box is oooolllllldddddd [14:37] reckon my problem is it's a dell scanner.. so at best maybe a rebranded brother [14:38] iamtheworstdev: can you at least discover it's IP address on the network using a tool like nmap, or "avahi-browse -art" (which reports multicast DNS adverts) [14:38] yea it works fine.. I'm just tired of rebooting into windows to scan something [14:39] txt = ["Scan=T" "Fax=F" "Duplex=T" "Color=T" "UUID=735e8a00-1dd2-11b2-bed5-080037d375a6" "TBCP=T" "Binary=T" "usb_MDL=C2665dnf Color MFP" "usb_MFG=Dell" "adminurl=http://Dell-C2665dnf-D375A6.local/setting/setairprint.htm" "pdl=application/postscript,application/pdf,application/vnd.hp-PCLXL,application/vnd.hp-PCL,image/urf" "product=(Dell C2665dnf Color MFP)" "ty=Dell-C2665dnf-D375A6" "qtotal=1" "note=" "txtvers=1"] [14:39] that's from avahi [14:40] iamtheworstdev: if you visit the admin URL *sometimes* there'll be a link to driver downloads [14:41] probably just easier to set up an SMB share and let the scanner just dump it there lol [14:44] Can I setupl via the desktop installer of ubuntu an LVM partiion where the root and home partition are separate LVM volumes? [14:46] Did youtry the manual partitoning menu? Had no luck setting up an MD RAID device, and had to use the server installer. [14:48] when I install afterwards the desktop of ubuntu, what do I get? [14:48] the minimal version of the ubuntu desktop iso? [14:50] zen_coder, not sure, the standard one did not boot for me. Had to use the legacy one that does not set up a GUI. [14:51] which version did you installed? [14:52] 18.04? [14:52] 20.04 [14:55] Seveas: I am not familiar with netfilter-persistent, at the moment we have been using UFW (systemd?) out of the box. Would this work ok with that? [15:01] no idea, I've never used ufw [15:07] Is there a linux tool for setting up wifi connections over shell? [15:08] Or should I hook it up and look GUI ? [15:11] HickorySmokedBac, dunno for sure, but probably nmcli is what you want [15:11] coconut: Seems to be about right, but I'm not finding a "hey look here what the networks are, which one you want to put in the password for?" easy option [15:13] HickorySmokedBac: if you are running a Desktop Environment, use the GUI [15:13] HickorySmokedBac, well, you can at least scan them with: nmcli device wifi list [15:13] coconut: I see it listed, is it possible to set it on up? [15:14] never done that yet from nmcli, but i guess yes [15:14] then yank the NIC cord [15:16] HickorySmokedBac, tried?: sudo nmcli dev wifi connect password 'mypassword' [15:18] coconut: secrets were required but not provided? [15:20] i have to pass on that [15:20] Hello Ubuntu Community! [15:21] sorry [15:21] How does ubuntu-shell compares to gnome-shell aside from that the first installs apps, adds some gnome extensions and theme?... I mean, is there some 'improvements' that are a great reason to use this Environment ? [15:26] Can I disable all filters and issue a printout in raw format from system text editor? [15:27] coconut: maybe I should just go hook it up to a monitor and try GUI [15:28] HickorySmokedBac, that does make things earier :) [15:41] hi, sometimes my ipv4 goes down and just ipv6 works. why? [15:41] I tossed a HDMI cable on it and put it on a TV, set it up fast [15:43] My 500MB /boot partition is full already! [15:43] is there a webpage explaining what sizes are good for /boot root dir and home when installing ubuntu? [15:44] * phillipsjk256 did not use LVM either. [15:47] phillipsjk256: did you do anything special to make it full? [15:47] 500MB should be good enough for 3 kernels [15:48] I ask because I made my /boot 512MB and hope it will be large enough [15:48] How is Ubuntu compared to Debian about system administration... I mean, more than the packages are outdated and more 'stable', Ubuntu appears to have more programs and configurations like AppArmor, and other system configurations, [15:50] I think ubuntu is better [15:52] oxek, tried to upgrade, also installed the Ubuntu Studio task, which installed a low latency kernel, also using generic kernels. [15:54] Minall: Thats probably somethine youshould ask in #ubuntu-offtopic or maybe #ubunu-discuss This channel is more aimed at specific supprt issues [15:54] So looking into unstalling old unused kernel, maybe not using the generic kernels. [15:54] phillipsjk256: upgrades always keep previous 2 kernels, so you can end up with 3 kernels. If you also have the realtime kernels in addition to that, then it is possible you could end up with 6 kernel versions, which will not fit in 500MB [15:55] Why do you think ubuntu is better horantru[m]?, I'm looking at references and all... Can you share your experience and, can we move to ubuntu-offtopic? [15:55] Minall: it is on-topic here [15:56] HickorySmokedBac, next time -> nmcli is the commandline tool to manage WIFI on a desktop install from commandline [15:57] ogra: or nmtui [15:57] not sure what that is ... [15:57] ogra: same thing as nmcli, but gives you a text interface [15:57] nmcli is installed by default and well documented though ... [15:57] nmtui is default too [15:57] oh ! [15:57] thanks for the insight oxek, thought maybe I was not keeping up on kernel+initrd bloat or something. [15:58] * ogra learned something 🙂 [15:58] ogra: it's all part of network-manager [15:58] yeah, i thought it was separate [15:59] * phillipsjk256 had to du kerel image juggling in th e past with a 100MB /boot [15:59] phillipsjk256: you can read through /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01autoremove-kernels [16:00] phillipsjk256: and also /etc/kernel/postinst.d/apt-auto-removal (which is an executable script if you want to play with it) [16:07] can I only create a LVM group on the whole disk? [16:08] if using the cat command to write a file with multiple lines, how can I add an "enter" where one line ends and the other line begins? [16:09] zen_coder: partitions become pv's, pv's go into vg's and lv's live inside those vg's. You can have multiple pv's (== multiple disks or partitions) in the same vg, and don't need to use whole disks as pv's [16:09] c0fe: cat << EOF > myfile [16:09] c0fe: and then write as many lines as you want, and once you're done type EOF [16:10] no you don't understand let's say i write a long string of commands apt-get update && apt-get upgrade -y && apt-get dist-upgrade && cat filehere but in that file there are two lines [16:10] zen_coder: e.g. the server that this irssi here runs one has 2 disks, 1 of them has 3 partitions: /boot, swap and a pv. The other disk is just pv, but in a different vg. [16:10] how do I tell the command there are multiple lines? [16:10] Seveas: In the ubuntu server install I can only create an LVM group for the whole device [16:11] I cannot mix it with normal partitions [16:11] zen_coder: the manual partitioning thing should let you do that [16:11] oxek: ok here is the command: https://dpaste.com/FHUM67RQM i need this all to be on one line though but the end result is a file with two lines, one line being deb https://nginx.org/packages/ubuntu/ focal nginx and the other line is deb-src https://nginx.org/packages/ubuntu/ focal nginx [16:12] e.g. when I create a boot partition on the PV, I cannot create a VG anymore on this device [16:12] zen_coder: you don't create a vg on a device. You create pv's from partitions and add them to a vg [16:12] I have the installer right you [16:12] you create VG on a device [16:13] thats what the installer is telling me [16:13] I mean "right here" [16:13] and the VG will take the whole device [16:13] c0fe: that will work [16:14] oxek: you aren't following [16:14] that command has lines in it, i need to have a one line command string that creates a file with two lines [16:14] that command has 4 lines [16:15] zen_coder: that sounds broken to me. Haven't used the installer in about 8 years (all my installs are automated), what I said is based on how lvm works. [16:15] how do you automate an installer? [16:16] https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/install/autoinstall [16:16] there's different ways [16:16] What are your experiences with Ubuntu vs Debian?, and why do you prefer one to other? [16:21] c0fe: echo -e "deb https://nginx.org/packages/ubuntu/ focal nginx\ndeb-src https://nginx.org/packages/ubuntu/ focal nginx > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nginx.list [16:22] wait, I missed a " [16:22] try this: echo -e "deb https://nginx.org/packages/ubuntu/ focal nginx\ndeb-src https://nginx.org/packages/ubuntu/ focal nginx" > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nginx.list [16:30] Morning all - or afternoon depending on where you are [16:32] oxek: ok so \ is what denotes a carriage return? [16:39] c0fe: \n is for newline [16:39] EriC^^: oh i see it now, i need more coffee [17:05] what is the defauilt display manager for ubuntu 18.04? [17:06] zen_coder, gnome3/gdm? [18:07] I get following error after installing desktop ubuntu version on a server system and making a restart https://imgur.com/a/4Y0VQL4 [18:12] looks like you lost access to your volume group [18:12] vg-ubuntu--lv does not exist.. [18:12] you changed that yesterday, right? [18:12] was this a clean install? [18:15] you see that guys nose? huge... [18:16] no, he changed a lot [18:16] oerheks: I just did a fresh install [18:16] !logs [18:16] Official channel logs can be found at https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too. Meetingology logs at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ [18:16] I just did some software updates ubuntu 20 and now my wifi doesn't work [18:17] I've been running for months and now I'm down [18:17] for giggles I disabled my broad comm driver by selecting "do no use device" [18:18] MontyHall, or go back to kernel 5.4, else this fix for BCM >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bcmwl/+bug/1910555 there's a workaround toward the bottom [18:18] Launchpad bug 1910555 in bcmwl (Ubuntu) "Driver build error on kernel 5.8, but works on 5.4" [Undecided,Confirmed] [18:18] bcmwl-kernel-source_6.30.223.271+bdcom-0ubuntu7_amd64.deb [18:21] oerheks, yes? [18:26] Could someone help me? I just logged in onto my system after a suspend. And I can get my network interface up [18:26] If I try `ip link set wlp4s0 up` I get back RTNETLINK answers: Operation already in progress [18:27] I have tried with restarting wpa_supplicant doesn't help [18:27] did you make changes to the computer's networking? [18:27] No [18:27] I don't have that kind of knowledge [18:27] how about a reboot? [18:28] Reboot always helps, but this tends to keep stopping my flow. Wanted to solve it if possible [18:28] When I switched on right now, my systemd-networkd service was dead, even dhclient answers the same btw "RTNETLINK answers: Operation already in progress" [18:28] possible the network hardware doesnt like suspends, or not set for suspending [18:29] It doesn't happen the first 2/3 times I suspend. But after that this always happens [18:32] might look into hibernation rather than sleep [18:35] If there's nothing I can do, will reboot and live with this [18:35] And thank you [18:49] when I start from live cd the ubuntu-vg-ubuntu--lv is available [18:49] I also get for a short term a blue screen say: "boot option restoring in 3...2...1..." [18:59] thanks, that fixed the problem [19:17] do we have any 20.04 gcc cross compilers that are patched to support kernel builds that require reptoline? === _KaszpiR__ is now known as _KaszpiR_ [19:48] Hello I'm using the ubuntu 20.04 , I shut down my computer by pressing the power button when my computer freeze. My wifi adapter and second monitor were not working when I turned it on. I think my drivers are gone. What should I do? === Mysia is now known as Mekely === retentiveboy_ is now known as retentiveboy [19:50] melih_arkuy: does "rfkill" say that anything is blocked? if not, shut it down gracefully this time, powering it off again, wait 10 seconds, power it on again. [19:50] if thereIS something blocked, tell us what exactly [19:51] !paste [19:51] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [19:53] tomreyn: how can I check the rfkill? I'm the new on the ubuntu [19:59] dag Andre [20:00] dag Albert [20:00]