[00:15] <ubptgbot> Amish 2deg was added by: Amish 2deg
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 Does ubuntu touch supprt installing anbox
[06:24] <ubptgbot> SecureBlockTech was added by: SecureBlockTech
 Has anyone installed on Samsung Note 9?
 I installed it on oneplus 5t
 @Crystal2200 [Does ubuntu touch supprt installing anbox], https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/dailyuse/anbox.html
 @Crystal2200 [I installed it on oneplus 5t], how is it?
 @driesvdb [how is it?], It is not a perfectandroid experience
 I did it on nexus 5
 Which is so old already
 @driesvdb [how is it?], What do you mean?
 @SomaSchicksal [It is not a perfectandroid experience], Yes it is quite old
[09:10] <ubptgbot> A was added by: A
 So far everything works fine, but libxx-container and anbox could not work well
[09:11] <ubptgbot> ghostbelle was added by: ghostbelle
[09:21] <ubptgbot> Gerhard was added by: Gerhard
 good morning
 I have a question, can I still install Ubuntu on a Samsung note 3?
 I can't find any information about that
 I forgot to introduce myself, my name is Gerhard and I am from the Netherlands
[09:35] <ubptgbot> #mimov2 was added by: #mimov2
 Hello
 How do i take a screen shot
 @Gerhard [I have a question, can I still install Ubuntu on a Samsung note 3?], The group description reads: "Supported Devices: https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/"
 @#mimov2 [How do i take a screen shot], Vol up + Vol down button, press them together
 Tnx
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/8iXlFpvQ.png
 Sry wrong dm
 is anyone have some experience on using teleport with a account with enormous amount of channel/groups?
 Wdym
 teleports usually crashes first boot for me, but its okay after that
 I found that teleport can't handle it, that it can't loaded messages on every group/channel once launched, or I have to wait a couple of minutes, even crashed in some case … while other platforms' telegram, even the ancient UT teleport can handle
 i connected my phone to pc and nothin hapens
 [Edit] i connected my phone to pc and nothin happens
 and I tried with an account with only a few active group/channel, there's nothing wrong on it … so I kind of assume that it used a wrong syncing strategy, that making too much request at the same time, and turns out the server being DDoS wrong and not able to load messages immediately?
 good morning … Can someone tell me if I can also put Ubuntu on my Samsung Note 3 off Google pixel XL2 without any problems
 You mean you want to install Ubuntu touch on your Hamsun note 3 using a Goggle Pixel XL2 to flash it?
 l ol
 funny
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/hZh73bTn.webp
 Yes
 Is that possible
 @PM5544 [I found that teleport can't handle it, that it can't loaded messages on every gr …], uh yes this appears to be a bug, how to solve it is another question
 I want to get rid of Google
 [Edit] and I tried with an account with only a few active group/channel, there's nothing wrong on it … so I kind of assume that it used a wrong syncing strategy, that the app was making too much request at the same time, and turns out the server being identified as DDoS wrongly and being not able to load messages immediately?
 first off samsung note 3 is not supported
 u gonna get back soon
 I buy a phone for myself and not all of them can see what I am doing
 my phone support it but clunky and buggy
 unofically
 actually neither of the two are supported
 which means that you would need to port it
 How about the fairphone 3+
 @Gerhard [I want to get rid of Google], the first step is to change to AOSP(eg: lineage) and microG
 @Gerhard [How about the fairphone 3+], have you looked at devices.ubuntu-touch.io
 @Gerhard [How about the fairphone 3+], [Edit] have you looked at devices.ubuntu-touch.io?
 I am not an experienced person it does not get too complicated
 @Gerhard [I want to get rid of Google], [Edit] the first step is to swap your OS to AOSP(eg: lineage) and microG
 elke apparaat is uniek, ubuntu touch moet aangepast worden per apparaat
 @Gerhard [I am not an experienced person it does not get too complicated], then using those devices listed on the webpage is recommended
 Ok een Nederlander
 which is a time consuming process
 @Gerhard [Ok een Nederlander], surinamer :p
 or consider de-googled android, like lineageOS
 Which phone is best suited for Ubuntu anyway
 depends on your needs really
 Ik maak geen verschil tussen kleur of cultuur
 most devices have at least some device specific bugs
 @Gerhard [Ik maak geen verschil tussen kleur of cultuur], dat is prijzendwaardig :)
[11:19] <ubptgbot> Abdullah AL Shohag was added by: Abdullah AL Shohag
 I just want to be able to do whatever I do now, surf the internet a bit, Whatsapp my mail and if possible my bank pocket
 most bugs are tracked at https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch
 never recommend device with "legacy" sign, as it needs quite tedious procedure
 @Gerhard [I just want to be able to do whatever I do now, surf the internet a bit, Whatsap …], ah whatsapp doesn't support ubuntu touch
 @Gerhard [I just want to be able to do whatever I do now, surf the internet a bit, Whatsap …], if you need whatsapp, then UT isn't the platform you should go for
 I'd suggest sailfishOS using sony hardware, as it provide android support
 um philips why are you continuialy suggesting other oses?
 @PM5544 [I'd suggest sailfishOS using sony hardware, as it provide android support], Ik zal mij er eens in verdiepen
 and as you're in europe, it's not that hard to flash
 @PM5544 [I'd suggest sailfishOS using sony hardware, as it provide android support], I'll take a closer look
 @Gerhard [Ik zal mij er eens in verdiepen], I'm not hollanders, can't read
 @PM5544 [and as you're in europe, it's not that hard to flash], I am from The Netherlands
 in elk geval we hebben ook een groep for nederlands sprekenden ;)
 https://t.me/ubports_nl denk ik
 @Fuseteam [in elk geval we hebben ook een groep for nederlands sprekenden ;)], O dat is heel fijn bedankt
 @PM5544 [I'm not hollanders, can't read], funny that you call it "hollanders" then xD
 @Fuseteam [funny that you call it "hollanders" then xD], as I can't find a word for the ppl of the Nederlands, sry for that :P
 I think they will like to be called hollanders
 It doesn't matter it's the same 😜
 😂😂😂
 I don't differentiate between countries or people, we are all the same, I just call them people
 @Fuseteam [um philips why are you continuialy suggesting other oses?], well, under my experience, UT really can't surpress android in terms of usability, a, but as a palm-size linux device  … also, his target is degoogling but having limited linux terminal/android rom-flashing skills, and he's looking for using closed source apps for work,
[11:30] <ubptgbot>  so it's quite risky to promote UT at the first place, or he'll lost quite amount of productivity, even bricking his working device.
 @Gerhard [I don't differentiate between countries or people, we are all the same, I just c …], that's a good outlook xD
 I would like to get rid of Google I do not use the Google drive I use my nas as a cloud, I do not use the Gmail and I use Firefox with duckduckgo as search engine
 or should I say Nederlanders rather than Hollanders?
 Gerhard is good too
 @PM5544 [well, under my experience, UT really can't surpress android in terms of usabilit …], well that's not completely true either, we haven't touched on porting yet and well aside from whatsapp, for which we have whatsweb ut is very useful
 @PM5544 [well, under my experience, UT really can't surpress android in terms of usabilit …], [Edit] well that's not completely true either, we haven't touched on porting yet but its not easy to brick a phone and well aside from whatsapp, for which we have whatsweb ut, is very useful
 I know I am not too happy with Whatsapp because it belongs to Facebook
 I know I am not too happy with Whatsapp because it belongs to Facebook
 I also don't have Facebook
 I have many people on Whatsapp family and friends and acquaintances and col
 besides we're in the main group that supports ut, suggest 2-3 alternatives to it while we're discussing ut is somewhat dampening
 @Gerhard [I have many people on Whatsapp family and friends and acquaintances and col], yeah me too, i have send an email to whatsapp support to request, well, support for ubuntu touch. i got an canned response 😂
 @Gerhard [I have many people on Whatsapp family and friends and acquaintances and col], same situation, I'd rather stuck at signal/tg/mewe if family/workplace colleagues are able to migrate
 I would like to know if Ubuntu would be a good alternative for me from Google Android after all
 and I really frustrated on facebook's double standard in terms of politics and fact-checking
 not about TrUmP
 i think if enough people show interest for ubuntu touch support they might do it
 I don't like Facebook, I don't like those practices they do with your privacy
 @PM5544 [or should I say Nederlanders rather than Hollanders?], The English word id "Dutch" (and Holland is only part of The Netherlands)
 but that biggest un-socialist country's state fake news and double standard censorship from their admin team
 We humans can make Ubuntu great by making it usable for everyone
 @PM5544 [or should I say Nederlanders rather than Hollanders?], [Edit] The English word is "Dutch" (and Holland is only part of The Netherlands)
 in the meantime we do have whatsweb, a webapp made out of whatsapp web, which will soon be able to operate independantly from the native client. if that includes logging in without the native client is unclear atm
 If it were user-friendly, people would switch more easily
 @alan_griffiths [The English word is "Dutch" (and Holland is only part of The Netherlands)], crap, I forgotten I could use that word, lol
 😂😂
 @Gerhard [I don't like Facebook, I don't like those practices they do with your privacy], you probably don't like their newest policy change then
 @Gerhard [I don't like Facebook, I don't like those practices they do with your privacy], [Edit] you probably don't like whatsapp's newest policy change then
 I don't like to limit people's freedom
 @Gerhard [I don't like to limit people's freedom], I point of view is facebook isn't limit ppl's freedom, but being double standard/hypocrite
 @Gerhard [If it were user-friendly, people would switch more easily], i'd say ubuntu touch is user friendly, the issues mainly are that many apps don't support and it can only be installed on a select few devices
 but that's true for all alternative oses
 @Fuseteam [i'd say ubuntu touch is user friendly, the issues mainly are that many apps don' …], Which device would you recommend?
 as of right now? i'd want to say the vollaphone, but that needs one crucial bug to be fixed yet. meanwhile the nexus 5 is fairly popular if you can live with its less crucial bugs
 @Gerhard [I don't like to limit people's freedom], [Edit] my point of view is, facebook isn't limit ppl's freedom, but being double standard/hypocrite … you still have amount of freedom, but if you can't follow the social justice, you'll be easily labeled as hate speech/alt-right conspiracy theorist/fake news disinformation, or being retar
[11:46] <ubptgbot> ded on dealing with actual hate speech/misinformations
 the latter should be fine for web browsing, and phone usage
 [Edit] the latter should be fine for web browsing, and general phone usage
 the former has an issue with phone calls that the devs are working on right now
 oh yeah, do you know how's the progress of libertine? I'm still looking forward on installing transmission using it instead of waiting a native app
 @Fuseteam [as of right now? i'd want to say the vollaphone, but that needs one crucial bug …], but I can see it shows itself as one of the most mature device on the support device list
 is that a placeholder of full commercial support?
 i think transmission should work, the interface won't be nice
 @Fuseteam [i think transmission should work, the interface won't be nice], I can still make some tweak on font size though, as I won't install any other desktop app at this moment
 @PM5544 [is that a placeholder of full commercial support?], if you click the entry it should show what works or at least link to the repo
 the problem is I can't install after resetting my meizu pro 5
 I will see if I can buy it on any second hand sites
 @Fuseteam [if you click the entry it should show what works or at least link to the repo], ahh I see
 @PM5544 [I can still make some tweak on font size though, as I won't install any other de …], if only it was just font size
 @PM5544 [the problem is I can't install after resetting my meizu pro 5], we have a @welcomeplus room if you want some assistence with that
 @Fuseteam [we have a @welcomeplus room if you want some assistence with that], I could use some help if I bought a phone
 sure you're welcome in the group
 badum tss
 Thank you very much I really appreciate it
[11:59] <ubptgbot> Cajiucojo was added by: Cajiucojo
 sure no problem
 @Gerhard [Thank you very much I really appreciate it], btw the guys in the dutch groep have pitched in their recommendations now
 @Fuseteam [in the meantime we do have whatsweb, a webapp made out of whatsapp web, which wi …], I fixed the problem yesterday. I deleted WhatsApp, FB and Instagram and told my friends and family to message me on Signal or Telegram so that I can happily use my Nexus 5 on UT. So far no-one has replied so I guess my plan worked. 😳 Or proba
[12:19] <ubptgbot> bly not 😂
 this is exactly how to do it.  this method makes sure that only people who care about you are left ;)
[12:52] <ubptgbot> <X YZ> @PM5544 [if you need whatsapp, then UT isn't the platform you should go for], You might, though, be interested in the vollaphone. It will soll be able to dual-boot vollaos (= de-Googled android), UT and sfos ce, so that you could switch between these worlds and find out what you need and like best.
 Wooow😱 … I read Elon Musk tweet where he is decided to run  crypto aidrop!🚀🚀 … Crazy man! L00k 👉  https://bit.ly/38NrIuk
 @X YZ [You might, though, be interested in the vollaphone. It will soll be able to dual …], I have that interest, but first of all I have 3 phones already(:P), and I have a phone installed with UT, 1 backup and 1 working
 @admin spam
 crazy man bye bye
 that badly-made phishing post can't bait me
 @X YZ [You might, though, be interested in the vollaphone. It will soll be able to dual …], also I'm kind of run out of budget, which can't convince me in this moment, but I still have the interest if I got the budget in the future
[12:57] <ubptgbot> <X YZ> @PM5544 [also I'm kind of run out of budget, which can't convince me in this moment, but …], I well know that feeling...
 @X YZ [You might, though, be interested in the vollaphone. It will soll be able to dual …], [Edit] also I'm kind of run out of budget, which can't convince me in this moment, but I'm sure I'll buy one if I have the budget in the future
 @MARriya888 [<reply to media>], Ubuntu Touch TV?...
 @X YZ [You might, though, be interested in the vollaphone. It will soll be able to dual …], [Edit] I have that interest, but first of all I have 3 phones already(:P), a phone installed with UT, 1 backup and 1 working android
 Hmm..... What a long conversation
 I'm looking for ubports porting group
 @xander2m [I fixed the problem yesterday. I deleted WhatsApp, FB and Instagram and told my …], 😂great plan
 @wayneoutthere [crazy man bye bye], @someone need to change their username to @admin lol
 @H@ñß9ñ [I'm looking for ubports porting group], there's both https://t.me/ubports_porting for advanced ports and https://t.me/halium for new ports
 @GianRm [Ubuntu Touch TV?...], yes it was a demoware once
 TV doesn't really fit in the convergence model :p
 Hello everyone. I see tablet Nexus 7 2013 is supported, and am thinking about buying one to install UT on it. Do you recommend it, or which tablet is best for UT currently? Thanks
[14:04] <ubptgbot> Phil Busby was added by: Phil Busby
 @e [Hello everyone. I see tablet Nexus 7 2013 is supported, and am thinking about bu …], Look at the chart on the website. I think the Nexus 2013 might be one of the easier tablets to get second hand.
 Is there any important problem with it being "legacy"?
 @e [Is there any important problem with it being "legacy"?], We might providing support for those old devices at some point in time. They wont get any security updates anymore, neither in Kernel nor in the Android part. And we need to go for Ubuntu 20.04, that might bring some troubles with systemd
 @Flohack [We might providing support for those old devices at some point in time. They won …], so does that mean each device port needs to be updated for systemd too?
 do any of the current devices get security updates in the kernel?
 @Fuseteam [do any of the current devices get security updates in the kernel?], well unofficially, yes
 4.4.250 on mi a2
 ah interesting
 Hey guys
 I got this error trying to install UT
 Error: unhandled rejection at [object Promise]: Error: {"error":{"code":4294967295,"cmd":"C:\\Users\\henri\\AppData\\Local\\Temp\\1mhZANgGAzwydMrPfM752QkRYsa\\resources\\app.asar.unpacked\\node_modules\\android-tools-bin\\dist\\win32\\x86\\adb.exe -P 5037 start-server"},"stderr":"* daemon not running; starting now at tcp:5037\r\ncould not r
[14:52] <ubptgbot> ead ok from ADB Server\r\n* failed to start daemon\r\nerror: cannot connect to daemon"}
 Do i need to reinstall adb?
 Is there a manual installation process?
 there's a manual installation process but it is somewhat complicated
 this sounds like an adb issue on windows fwiw
 I'm frustrated with the app installation
 fwiw if its an adb issue manual installation will be even more frustrating
 this may help: https://t.me/WelcomePlus/67176
 [Edit] this may help with the adb issue: https://t.me/WelcomePlus/67176
 best to remove all adb driver before you try the above
 @Fuseteam [this may help with the adb issue: https://t.me/WelcomePlus/67176], I'll try this driver
 make sure you have no conflicting drivers
 if everything else fails try a ubuntu live usb
 @ItsMeShouko [so does that mean each device port needs to be updated for systemd too?], Yes, systemd does not like old kernels, we might have to patch stuff
 And we will have a hard time, for BQ and Meizu devices we have no build tree
 and BQ the company no longer exists :/
 @Fuseteam [and BQ the company no longer exists :/], Well they could not give it to us, NDA with Mediatek
 someone did mention former employees uploading the thing on telegram iirc
 @Flohack [Well they could not give it to us, NDA with Mediatek], ah rip :v
 @Fuseteam [someone did mention former employees uploading the thing on telegram iirc], I wont use NDA material, too risky for the foundation :)
 @Flohack [I wont use NDA material, too risky for the foundation :)], yes exactly :x
 @Javacookies, is there code somewhere to make web notifications work in Morph? Have I missed something in the PR list? https://forums.ubports.com/post/44870
 Aha, there's the draft PR.
 https://github.com/ubports/morph-browser/pull/431
 "This pull request is still a work in progress"
 But hey this is really cool
 Yes yes, but people always want things now after they're announced as possible someday :)
 Hey I know you haven't announced it, but I've seen things, I've heard whispers, so can I have that but like yesterday?
 Alright, you got a chuckle.
 lol
[15:31] <ubptgbot> <X YZ> @Flohack [Yes, systemd does not like old kernels, we might have to patch stuff], Does that mean I will soon have to retire my Nexus 7 (deb)? 😳
 @PM5544 [oh yeah, do you know how's the progress of libertine? I'm still looking forward …], you can try installing qt-transmission instead and I would think there's a way to run it natively instead of xmir. I tried installing it in root and it was working, well at least the UI, haven't tried downloainh a torrent
 @X YZ [Does that mean I will soon have to retire my Nexus 7 (deb)? 😳], As soon as we know we will let you know. But, those devices tend to have a limited lifetime by nature. Even if technically ok so to say
 @Javacookies [you can try installing qt-transmission instead and I would think there's a way t …], note that
 @UniversalSuperBox [@Javacookies, is there code somewhere to make web notifications work in Morph? H …], yeah it's still a draft and I'm not involve in it. But it's awesome to know it'll come soon. … I only go for the high level and easy ones 😄
 @Fuseteam [this may help with the adb issue: https://t.me/WelcomePlus/67176], It's finally working!
 Thank you!!
 yay /o/
[15:35] <ubptgbot> <X YZ> @Flohack [As soon as we know we will let you know. But, those devices tend to have a limit …], Yes, I am aware of that ... would be a shame, though, since the device itself, and even the battery, are still fine. I hate to add to the world's electronic junkpile. 😢
 huh
 @X YZ [Yes, I am aware of that ... would be a shame, though, since the device itself, a …], You can stay on the latest rootfs, but I really recommend by this time to look for a replacement.
 @X YZ [Yes, I am aware of that ... would be a shame, though, since the device itself, a …], i mean you can still use it, in other ways i guess; maybe a way into mainlining. i am considering that if bq is dropped, even tho i'm nowhere near qualified :p
 weird; i thought `legacy` meant the original retail Ubuntu Edition devices which are not ported in the same way as normal ports
 i guess that changed again
 uh yeah that's what its suppose to be mean
[15:38] <ubptgbot> <X YZ> @Fuseteam [i mean you can still use it, in other ways i guess; maybe a way into mainlining. …], Will add it on my list of things to look up and do ... right after pmOS for my n900. 😉📱
 Well if we find enough time to.maintain all backwards compatibility, then no. I wrote as soon as we know ;)
 i'm not sure the nexus 7 falls under that
[15:39] <ubptgbot> <X YZ> @Flohack [Well if we find enough time to.maintain all backwards compatibility, then no. I …], Even though it will cost me my beloved deb ... better focus on newer devices that also still have patcheable firmware for security.
 @Flohack [Well if we find enough time to.maintain all backwards compatibility, then no. I …], i think you are describing a different type of legacy than what the devices page describes, and it is creating confusion
 @dohbee [i think you are describing a different type of legacy than what the devices page …], fwiw nexus 7 is listed as legacy on the devices page 🤔
 @Fuseteam [fwiw nexus 7 is listed as legacy on the devices page 🤔], yes, only it and the meizu devices are
 which yeah, doesn't make sense to me either
 yeah it doesn't make sense :v
 the list is different from https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/install.html#install-on-legacy-android-devices
 yes. i think it's just wrong
 I guess to be fair we don't really know anything until focal is in a more ready stage and someone tries to get it running on those devices
 @NotKit [I guess to be fair we don't really know anything until focal is in a more ready …], yes, but that's true of any device i think, not only the "legacy" ones which are supposed to be only the retail Ubuntu Edition; but the devices page diverged from installation documentation, and it's created more confusion
 @X YZ [Does that mean I will soon have to retire my Nexus 7 (deb)? 😳], no. the Nexus 7 being marked "legacy" there is wrong
 yeah and we don't want more confusion
[15:49] <ubptgbot> <X YZ> @dohbee [no. the Nexus 7 being marked "legacy" there is wrong], 📱😃
 @dohbee [yes, but that's true of any device i think, not only the "legacy" ones which are …], Our documentation is all over the place. PRs welcome. We dont have tech writers, too. Maybe someone in the community wants to step in, starting to interview people and improving quality?
 @Flohack [Our documentation is all over the place. PRs welcome. We dont have tech writers, …], well the "install on legacy android devices" part of documentation has never changed. it's the devices page that has been all over the place instead :P
 and its not like we gained more legacy devices
 weird part is the pro 5 isn't listed there
 @Fuseteam [weird part is the pro 5 isn't listed there], eh?
 @Fuseteam [weird part is the pro 5 isn't listed there], I stand corrected, but there are flaws in every piece of docs.... since it lacks consistent updating, proofreading etc.
 @dohbee [eh?], exactly my reaction
 People I made an amazing discovery for myself .... I was able to fix libertine and start firefox, and this is the first time I have used apt not only to install screenfetch ... … I'll probably describe here the instructions so that others who do not work can check and say whether this fix works on other devices or not. … So: …
[16:22] <ubptgbot> 1) Open a terminal on your UT device … 2) Introduce …  - sudo apt update … (WARNING DO NOT CONSIDER ENTERING sudo apt upgrade OTHERWISE THE SYSTEM WILL NOT BE GUARANTEED TO BOOT AFTER A RESTART) … 3) Updating several Libertine components …  - sudo apt install libertine (update one component + install the Libertine Manager application) … - sudo apt
[16:22] <ubptgbot> install libertine-qt-common … - sudo apt install libertine-tools … - sudo apt install libertine-xmir-tools … - sudo apt install libertined … After that, we restart the device, go to the Libertine Manager and create a container, monitor the logs and wait until it is installed, if the container goes into the "ready" status, the container is ready, tr
[16:22] <ubptgbot> y installing Firefox in it to check. … Congratulations! Now UT is one step closer to pocket Linux + you've fixed a broken feature) … I do not know if it will work in the GSI version, I would like someone to check the fix ... … I found the fix in OTA 15, I don’t know how other updates will be … (I hope that you can put such a fix here for verificati
[16:22] <ubptgbot> on)
 UT does not work that way
 and libertine stuff is all already installed
 that sounds like you just updated libertine tools, so those should land at some point after the qt upgrade
 also telegram being for live chat, is not a good place for long forum style posts like that, so please split them up into smaller posts in the future, or post on forum if it's necessary for long posts :)
 @dohbee [and libertine stuff is all already installed], Yes, they are installed by default, but there is a problem in the form of the fact that on some devices and GSI by default it does not work, applications do not start and containers are not installed the first time. in short, it exists but works on a very small number of d
[16:28] <ubptgbot> evices
 @im_not_dead_seiwer [Yes, they are installed by default, but there is a problem in the form of the fa …], what does the command line output say "install" or "upgrade"?
[16:29] <ubptgbot> Zev Cooper-Bennun was added by: calebccff
 @im_not_dead_seiwer [Yes, they are installed by default, but there is a problem in the form of the fa …], GSI is not officially supported ports
 @Fuseteam [what does the command line output say "install" or "upgrade"?], "Install" is used to update these components
 @dohbee [GSI is not officially supported ports], therefore, such a fix would make life easier for many on the already unstable GSI
 @im_not_dead_seiwer ["Install" is used to update these components], then that means the "fix" should land in future updates
 @im_not_dead_seiwer [therefore, such a fix would make life easier for many on the already unstable GS …], as such the GSI image needs to be updated
 if you want you can make a forum post about it, where you simply explain "libertine needs to be updated and these are manual steps"
 @Fuseteam [as such the GSI image needs to be updated], I hope it will appear, because for me it will mean that it was not in vain that I killed all night for experiments on the system, and at the same time I will help the community)
 @Fuseteam [if you want you can make a forum post about it, where you simply explain "libert …], Well understood, thanks for the advice)
 @Fuseteam [if you want you can make a forum post about it, where you simply explain "libert …], only I have a question in which section is it better to publish this on the forum ... I'm not sure if this message is suitable for example in 'app development "
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 Signal is having problems with capacity, which will affect Axolotl
 Damn, I want to post my fix on the forum and I notice an unpleasant bug .... I can't post it because I just can't select a category, just when I try to select it writes "No matches found" and as a result there are no categories, and I can't lay out
 @im_not_dead_seiwer [Damn, I want to post my fix on the forum and I notice an unpleasant bug .... I c …], Be patient a bit. I will see what can be done
 Hmm... There should be a user-friendly message, but you have to verify your account before posting
 Did you receive the verification email @im_not_dead_seiwer?
 @UniversalSuperBox [Did you receive the verification email @im_not_dead_seiwer?], Damn, I was not warned about email .... Now I'll try to check
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 @UniversalSuperBox [Did you receive the verification email @im_not_dead_seiwer?], Hello, Dalton, as I see the transition to the stable release of Ubuntu 20.04 is underway, does this mean optimizing all applications.
 @ArGeNbest [Hello, Dalton, as I see the transition to the stable release of Ubuntu 20.04 is …], I'm sorry, I don't understand what you mean.
 What will the transition to ubuntu 20.04 give us?
 Ubuntu 20.04 as a base :P
 it will give us a lot more work
 To the Application Account, is there an agreement to add ubuntu touch to the official platform.
 Honestly, I'll call the upgrade a success if you, the person using Ubuntu Touch, don't notice any changes
 changing to 20.04 base shouldn't mean much of anything for app devs though, other than needing to use a newer framework version when building their apps, after we've switched devel images to it
 @ArGeNbest [To the Application Account, is there an agreement to add ubuntu touch to the off …], What do you mean by application account?
 [Edit] Are there any agreements on the provision of applications to the platform based on ubuntu touch, for example: instagram, watsap, telegrams, etc. is not officially supported, did you try to negotiate with them?
 We did not try to contact companies such as Instagram, WhatsApp, Telegram, so that they officially support Ubuntu Touch.
 doubt they would be interested
 in such a small user base
 well we have tried
 that is, many people have asked them to support it
 There are at least a few of us, but every day, every year the number of users and the number of new devices ported is growing.
 telegram does give us somewhat reasonable support
 and we have teleports app as a result of that
 no, 20.04 won't be some magical stone for them to start supporting us any more, either
 @ArGeNbest [There are at least a few of us, but every day, every year the number of users an …], It's enough.
 Imagine if every 5th smartphone runs on Ubuntu Touch, but that's enough.
 well that would be a billion phones
 hehehehe
 i'm pretty sure all those services would support UT then
 @dohbee [i'm pretty sure all those services would support UT then], We hope for the best, but if I were in their place I would think about it, because the future is not in android.
 Android becomes boring, uninteresting, somehow raw, little changes every year.
 @ArGeNbest [We hope for the best, but if I were in their place I would think about it, becau …], i suppose you could ask whatsapp again, telegram is supported through the teleports app
 there was an online petition for whatsapp once but it didn't manage to reach its goal
 [Edit] there was an online petition for whatsapp supporting ubuntu touch once but it didn't manage to reach its goal
 @Fuseteam [there was an online petition for whatsapp supporting ubuntu touch once but it di …], It used to be, now it is much more.
 @ArGeNbest [It used to be, now it is much more.], if you think an online petition would succeed now, feel free to start one
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 @Fuseteam [there was an online petition for whatsapp supporting ubuntu touch once but it di …], Thanks god
 @#mimov2 [Thanks god], i ain't no god, i'm frankly offended by such a disrepectful usage of the word.
 @ArGeNbest [We did not try to contact companies such as Instagram, WhatsApp, Telegram, so th …], By the way, and in fact it is .... I think if you try to contact, then the chances of official applications will increase
 People what to do if in Libertine applications (for example, in Firefox) it is impossible to call the keyboard? I want to enter a link but I can't, I press the field and there is no keyboard
 @Fuseteam [i ain't no god, i'm frankly offended by such a disrepectful usage of the word.], Aint wasap spy
 @im_not_dead_seiwer [People what to do if in Libertine applications (for example, in Firefox) it is i …], With Firefox, just use the other orientation, I can't remember which.  So some things work fine in portrait and other things in landscape.
 @imraniqbal [With Firefox, just use the other orientation, I can't remember which.  So some t …], But it doesn't fix the keyboard ... I can't call the keyboard in any Libertine applications. Maybe there is a way to manually bring up the keyboard
 @im_not_dead_seiwer [But it doesn't fix the keyboard ... I can't call the keyboard in any Libertine a …], Let me just try it again...
 @#mimov2 [Aint wasap spy], alright i'll assume twas just a typo
 @im_not_dead_seiwer [People what to do if in Libertine applications (for example, in Firefox) it is i …], it should work hmmm
 @Fuseteam [it should work hmmm], At first it worked, but then for some reason it stopped
 any logs?
 @im_not_dead_seiwer [But it doesn't fix the keyboard ... I can't call the keyboard in any Libertine a …], Not sure, it's working for me in both orientations.
 i think i found how ping gets stuck on teleports; getting pinged while being in the group
 @Fuseteam [any logs?], I don't see any errors in the logs of the same firefox
 @imraniqbal [Not sure, it's working for me in both orientations.], Doesn't work, it doesn't work in any Libertine applications as soon as you don't turn the phone
 @im_not_dead_seiwer [I don't see any errors in the logs of the same firefox], not firefox, libertine logs
 @im_not_dead_seiwer [Doesn't work, it doesn't work in any Libertine applications as soon as you don't …], myii is unable to reproduce your issue so we'll need more info
 @im_not_dead_seiwer [Doesn't work, it doesn't work in any Libertine applications as soon as you don't …], Sorry, I'm not sure.  Libertine isn't perfect and you're probably running into one of the issues.
 again, GSI based devices are not official ports and may have more bugs
 @Fuseteam [not firefox, libertine logs], There are 2 logs from 2 libertine … Here's one: paste.ubuntu.com/p/6WT2YC38Nk
 @dohbee [again, GSI based devices are not official ports and may have more bugs], I'm not on GSI right now, but on the native port
 @im_not_dead_seiwer [There are 2 logs from 2 libertine … Here's one: paste.ubuntu.com/p/6WT2YC38Nk], Here is the log from 2 libertine … paste.ubuntu.com/p/pSfZN5Mkfs … I can't see anything related to the keyboard
 By the way, I have another reason why in firefox all tabs in general fall with an error and I just can't access any site through firefox
 huh?
 someone knows what is printed on the screen when I write this command in c
 printf("variable %d",&variable);
 this isn't a general programming help group
 you should find a better group to help you learn basics of C programming. this group is for discussion of Ubuntu Touch :)
 @Dejct [printf("variable %d",&variable);], I don't know C, but this should print out … variable whateverthevalueofvariableis
 @dohbee [you should find a better group to help you learn basics of C programming. this g …], Agreed 😁
 @Dejct [printf("variable %d",&variable);], 99% of the people in this group have no idea how to program :p
 @Dejct [printf("variable %d",&variable);], it will print the address of the variable
 but still off topic
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