[00:00] <s3nd1v0g1us> the swap did not mount
[00:01] <oerheks> all because a RO filesystem ?
[00:01] <s3nd1v0g1us> and i think its because its set to Read only
[00:09] <rigel> so what gui am i supposed to use for LVM2 adminstration now? system-config-lvm is not installed by default, gparted doesnt really do what i need to, and neither does disks
[00:13] <tomreyn> rigel: how about using lvm tooling? pv*/vg*/lv*
[00:14] <tomreyn> your question sounds like you may be looking for a GUI tool, though, i don't actually know then.
[00:14] <rigel> yeah, i said gui in my question.
[00:15] <rigel> i use the command line plenty but i also like having something i can just press a button for sometimes, instead of trying to parse a manpage
[00:15] <rigel> because messing with the filesystem configuration is not a thing i do every day
[00:17] <tomreyn> oh yes, you said gui. i should get some sleep. good luck.
[00:36] <s3nd1v0g1us> heres a question: does anyone here use the vuln in xfinity public wifi to get free service?
[00:36] <s3nd1v0g1us> i have friends who claim its silly to pay for something they can get for free.
[00:37] <gordonjcp> that sounds like something for #ubuntu-offtopic, if anywhere
[00:37] <gordonjcp> why would you use public wifi, why not 4G?
[00:37] <s3nd1v0g1us> fair enough.
[00:37] <s3nd1v0g1us> my 4g phone hotspot is unreliable.
[00:37] <s3nd1v0g1us> and limited.
[00:38] <gordonjcp> I use 4G instead of ADSL
[00:38] <gordonjcp> it's much cheaper and faster
[00:39] <s3nd1v0g1us> it seems slower for streaming, downloads.
[00:39] <s3nd1v0g1us> also, this way, apparently evades xfinity data/speed caps.
[01:30] <ForeverNoob[m]> hi, is there a way I can see the "definitions" of snaps? For example to see which home directories the snap has access to?
[01:32] <oerheks> in gnome-software > installed > snapname > permissions there is a clue
[01:32] <gbellinoz> In ubuntu 20.04, my ethernet devices bops to different numbers on different reboots. enp5s0 or enp6s0. Why, and how to pin it?
[01:33] <ForeverNoob[m]> oerheks: and via CLI?
[01:33] <oerheks> ForeverNoob[m], and manually ; snap interfaces gimp  https://ubuntu.com/blog/a-guide-to-snap-permissions-and-interfaces
[01:33] <ForeverNoob[m]> thanks
[01:33] <gbellinoz> really hate the complexity snaps are bringing...
[01:34] <oerheks> interface name changing, no clue about that
[01:37] <ivo_cavalcante> it's not that different from Android apps and all, in my opinion
[01:37] <ivo_cavalcante> but yes, it could have a command detailing all directories
[01:40] <sarnold> ivo_cavalcante: that's a good idea, it'd be nice to have a snapd command to dump the plain text version of the apparmor policy
[01:40] <sarnold> ivo_cavalcante: it'd be worth suggesting it to the snap team
[01:45] <sarnold> gbellinoz: that's pretty surprising, the whole point of these names was to be more stable than the older system. check out the systemd.net-naming-scheme(7) manpage for way too much information on these names and how they work.
[01:49] <anony> Hello, is anyone here an expert in audio/microphone configuration? The mic from my headset (3.5mm) is not being recognized
[01:49] <mefistofeles> matrix attack xD
[01:50] <sarnold> anony: often, running pavucontrol will help you figure out what's needed
[01:50] <ForeverNoob[m]> mefistofeles: that's why you have to do !storepass in with IRC appservices :)
[01:51] <anony> sarnold: I've tried that. But I'm stuck
[01:52] <sarnold> anony: dang :( things basically just work for me these days, so that's really my one idea. there's another channel #lau for audio folks, they may have better ideas of troubleshootins teps
[01:53] <anony> sarnold: It's as if the mic is not recognized by the kernel.
[01:54] <anony> I'm running Cinnamon and in sound settings -> input it has no fields, only prints "No inputs sources are currently available."
[02:02] <gbellinoz> sarnold: yeah, and my only other i/f is lo, so it's not like i'm doing anything weird.
[02:04] <sarnold> gbellinoz: are you perchance docking and undocking to something that offers new pci ports, like a thunderbolt thingy or a docking station?
[02:17] <gbellinoz> sarnold: nope. You know what I think it was... had a wlan card in there for awhile... that changed the ethernet card's name (should it have?). Change all references to that new name. Took wlan card out. Ethernet card name changed back. Some references still pointed to the old name, leading me to believe it was changing more often than it was. My memory is bad, so whenever I see a mismatch I thought "oh, it changed again".
[02:21] <sarnold> gbellinoz: oh! that sounds pretty plausible to me. I'd really hope that wouldn't actually do this :( but perhaps it does
[04:45] <eden2> hi, I have some systemd services like icecast2 and nginx set up but they aren't running at boot unless I log into my user account
[04:45] <eden2> how do I make them run at boot without logging in?
[04:47] <AlentoGhostflame> Heyo. Running Ubuntu 20.10, some applications when running fullscreen/borderless windowed are overlapped by the top and side bars? How do I fix that?
[05:01] <eden2> is it simply impossible to have ubuntu desktop act the way a server does? is logging in manditory to have systemd services run?
[05:02] <eden2> I can't find anybody else with this issue on google and I am losing my mind
[05:08] <matsaman> nice talkin' with ya
[05:40] <StarOnD> hi I wish to shrink my Ubuntu partition. when I use dd to create my gparted live usb does the usb have to be mounted?
[06:05] <matsaman> StarOnD: no
[06:05] <matsaman> just make sure you get the of= value right
[07:33] <MarchHare> Silly question, but I just updated a server from Ubuntu 18.04 to Ubuntu 20.04.1 and now it's doing something wierd with cifs/smb mounts (a NAS drive is being mounted, not the server isn't serving samba shares) where the filesystem driver is mangling filenames that apparently have unicode in them, and the linux machine can't even access the file (but windows can)
[07:34] <MarchHare> Like I can see the file, but there's wierd substitutions when viewed on the linux box.
[07:46] <MarchHare> Crazy. This seems to be the issue. Why wouldn't that be installed by default if it was in previous distros by default: https://askubuntu.com/questions/519796/unable-to-mount-cifs-with-iocharset-utf8
[08:14] <shuck> I tried recently to install Ubuntu and it crashed on installation, then when I restarted my computer it works witg a bug in dependencies that's corrected with a big upgrade. I'm still confused..
[08:20] <EriC^^> shuck: given that it booted post crash, it must have been past the final stage where it installs grub, after that iirc it removes unneeded packages, which it might have crashed there, causing a misconfigured apt state which was rectified upon upgrading, case solved
[08:24] <shuck> Maybe that's what happen, I thought I'll see a grub rescue :P
[08:30] <Wawahung535643> Fresh install of kubuntu yesterday, everything worked. Now booted my desktop again today, no internet no audio. IP link returns only lo as the network. No audio output devices either
[08:32] <Wawahung535643> Dmesg shows phone is connected yet nothing works.
[08:32] <Wawahung535643> There is no other os on the disk.
[08:32] <Wawahung535643> I use usb tethering for internet
[08:35] <jackoueff> The above question is mine.
[08:36] <jackoueff> Are there any drivers required? Modprobe pcnet32 did nothing. Referred to the Gentoo wiki.
[08:42] <ace_me> I have 2 hdd one with win and on ubuntu 20. Wireless card works fine on windows but on ubuntu is not seen... also when I plug a monitor to vga input it disables the laptop monitor and in settings display is shown as unknown... I can see in journalctl -xe probably after last update... a yellow line saying automatically porevented from changing kind on system/package/*/generic/org.freedesktop.fwupd/* from generic to unknown
[08:42] <ace_me> any help please ?
[08:51] <ace_me> nmcli networking conectivity diplsay none
[08:51] <ace_me> how to force ubuntu to search for devices ?
[08:51] <ace_me> line wireless ?
[08:53] <EriC^^> nmcli dev wifi    gives nothing?
[09:00] <ace_me> EriC^^:  nothing indeed
[09:02] <ace_me> lshw -C network senn the adapter as unclaimed
[09:05] <ace_me> it was working until last updated few days ago... I accepted to update and i was on my PC and not check the laptop if all is fine or not...
[09:05] <ace_me> now boom
[09:12] <ace_me> is similar to https://askubuntu.com/questions/1261260/ubuntu-20-04-loses-wifi-adaptor-atheros-ar9485-belkin EriC^^ ... no ideea ?
[09:14] <EriC^^> ace_me: maybe an issue with 5.8 kernel? seen lots of support tickets here about 5.8, maybe worth trying the older kernel from grub
[09:15] <ace_me> seen that https://itectec.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-how-to-get-the-network-and-settings-back-in-20-04/ installed /dkms_2.8.1-5ubuntu1_all.deb and ./r8168-dkms_8.048.00-1_all.deb
[09:15] <ace_me> I plan to try eventually that
[09:16] <ace_me> EriC^^:  should I eventually install older kernel from grub
[09:16] <ace_me> ?
[09:24] <ace_me> ...but probably need to find how to use or reinstall older kernel as I did autoremove EriC^^
[09:25] <ace_me> is it possible "
[09:25] <ace_me> ?
[09:26] <ace_me> because displaying anything on screen is like in sport replays
[09:26] <ace_me> slow like hell
[09:32] <ace_me> anyone know where I can download previous ubuntu 20 kernel please to replace the update I've made  ?
[09:35] <frad> what lightweight app can I use as a stopwatch and chronometer in xubuntu?
[09:36] <frad> there is the sleep command I use, is there any lightweight gui?
[09:38] <ace_me> my uname -r display 5.8.0-36-generic which looks to me a bit old ? https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/?C=N;O=D shows there is a v5.11-rc3/
[09:38] <ace_me> Is it safe to try it ?
[09:38] <ace_me> the last one I mean
[09:42] <ignorand> Are there any repors for old software?
[09:43] <ace_me> I have an intel processor, but it seems I need to download amd64 deb ?
[09:43] <ace_me> I was thionking I should see a x64 ... deb package
[09:44] <Disconsented> AMD64 is X64
[09:47] <ace_me> Disconsented: thx
[09:48] <ace_me> what's for that lowlatency... istempting
[09:50] <Ky0sh1r0> ace_me: i checked my installation and my system (20.04.1) runs with 5.4.0-60 per default atm
[09:51] <Ky0sh1r0> full package name: linux-image-5.4.0-60-generic/focal-updates,focal-security,now 5.4.0-60.67 amd64
[09:54] <Ky0sh1r0> ace_me: latest 5.8 shoud be:  linux-image-5.8.0-36-generic/focal-updates,focal-security 5.8.0-36.40~20.04.1 amd64
[09:54] <Ky0sh1r0> but didn't tried it yet on my box
[10:08] <ace_me> EriC^^: where did you seen that many error reports for newest kernel ?
[10:12] <ace_me> new kernel (an older one) nicely started both screens I have
[10:12] <ace_me> waiting to see if wireless is on
[10:13] <ace_me> there is any way to tell ubuntu not provide me updated of kernekl anymore ?
[10:13] <ace_me> I don't want to recall my memory and lose time like in old bad windows time
[10:14] <ace_me> :)\
[10:15] <ace_me> wireless is on again
[10:15] <ace_me> \o/ yupppi
[10:16] <ace_me> display is refreshing screen normally
[10:16] <ace_me> all good
[10:16] <ace_me> new things are just made to consume people time
[10:34] <cluelessperson> I'm running a thing that opens something like ~5000 connections to a server
[10:34] <cluelessperson> and my system seems to suddenly lock up and become unresponsive
[10:34] <cluelessperson> the mouse stutters across the screen
[10:35] <cluelessperson> I'm rerunning it now, shouldn't be anywhere near ram, cpu, limits.
[10:35] <cluelessperson> it is using a lot of virtual memory though.
[10:50] <faLUKE> hello! what can I use for turning my ubuntu into a bluethooth keyboard?
[10:50] <lotuspsychje> faLUKE: gnome has an on-screen keyboard if you like
[10:51] <faLUKE> lotuspsychje: I need both keyboard and mouse
[10:51] <faLUKE> I need to control an android device
[10:52] <lotuspsychje> you want to remote control a phone from ubuntu desktop, is that it?
[10:53] <faLUKE> lotuspsychje: yes
[10:53] <faLUKE> lotuspsychje: I can use bluetooth, if necessary
[10:53] <lotuspsychje> faLUKE: there are few kid control software that support linux, but nothing i recall on our repos
[10:54] <lotuspsychje> faLUKE: i tryed teamviewer once, but that gave me an error from ubuntu==>android
[10:55] <faLUKE> lotuspsychje: I don't want to do remote dekstop
[10:55] <faLUKE> just want to control keyboard and mouse
[10:59] <lotuspsychje> not sure faLUKE maybe other volunteers have ideas
[11:00] <faLUKE> lotuspsychje: my idea was to turn my attached keyboard and mouse into bluetooth dev
[11:00] <PeGaSuS> KDE connect, probably?
[11:00] <PeGaSuS> but that's over wi-fi, iirc
[11:00] <faLUKE> PeGaSuS: I can use wifi as well
[11:01] <Maik> PeGaSuS: on Ubuntu they use the GSConnect not KDE connect
[11:01] <faLUKE> PeGaSuS: but with kdeconnect I'm reading that you can control from android, you can't control android
[11:01] <PeGaSuS> although I'm unsure if you can control the Android device... also, scrspy could be an option?
[11:02] <PeGaSuS> scrspy is supposed to emulate your android screen in the desktop and allow you to play games, so I assume you can probably use it to control the entire device
[11:05] <faLUKE> PeGaSuS: scrspy seems a remote desktop
[11:05] <Maik> faLUKE: i guess there's no other way to control a android device from the desktop
[11:06] <Maik> google for it and you'll get the same answers
[11:06] <faLUKE> Maik: the way is to turn my linux PC into a bluetooth dev
[11:06] <Maik> google it then, i'm out of ideas
[11:06] <faLUKE> Maik: I already googled, that's why I asked here
[11:07] <Maik> sure... if you didn't find anything then it's not possible i guess
[11:10] <faLUKE> Maik: I don't think so
[11:10] <Maik>  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[11:10] <faLUKE> for example: I found this http://www.mulliner.org/bluetooth/xkbdbthid.php , but it doesn't support mouse
[11:12] <Maik> did you have a look at how old this is? 14 years
[11:12] <Maik> it's from 2007 that article
[11:13] <Maik> anyway, good luck, i can't help you
[11:13] <faLUKE> Maik: https://github.com/4ndrej/hidclient
[11:14] <Maik> as said i can't help you
[11:14] <faLUKE> Maik: I know, I just linked it for showing that it's possible (and this software is not old)
[11:29] <PeGaSuS> why not use one of those OTG cables and a wireless set of keyboard+mouse?
[11:50] <korvos> Trying to emulate Ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS ARM in qemu on Windows 10 host. Could someone tell me an acceptable `--machine` setting that would be compatible with that version of Ubuntu and/or what ARM processor(s) it was targeted for officially?
[12:22] <Teeed> hi: how does multiverse repository really work? i tried googling it, and did have not found answer to one simple question: how does packages end up in universe repo? how can i add mine?
[12:29] <EriC^^> !motu | Teeed
[12:39] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:40] <ishaqm> all, whenever my ubuntu laptop (with an external monitor) goes to standby and I wake it up, it never wakes up the monitor. Instead it starts showing a generic 1024x768 monitor connected to it.   ----    I have tried updating the drivers and the usual solutions offered on stackexchange, nothing fixes it.   The only thing that works is if I restart it with Recovery option (in the Advanced option on GRUB boat loader). Merely entering recovery
[12:40] <ishaqm> mode seems to be enough, since, if I then restart it normally, it starts to work with the monitor.
[12:40] <ishaqm> any ideas?
[13:08] <Teeed> EriC^^: thanks, and sorry :)
[13:08] <EriC^^> Teeed: no problem :)
[13:31] <bukler098> hi there! got a printer connected via wifi, but don't know howto print from ubuntu 18.04
[13:32] <bukler098> suggestions?
[13:33] <ScruffyB> !CUPS
[13:34] <pavlos> bukler098: apps > printers> add a printer, it should find it, then print
[13:38] <bukler098> I have tried adding the printer from config->printers but nothing found
[13:39] <bukler098> i will try setting the ip as suggested in your links /ubottu
[13:39] <bukler098> thx
[14:45] <john_rambo> I am thinking of trying the Brave browser. Is Brave open source ? The Wiki page is a little confusing. People who are already using Brave ... How is you experience ? Is Brave a good browser ?
[14:50] <lotuspsychje> john_rambo: the snap was vanished once, but its now back on ubuntu
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> john_rambo: sudo snap install brave
[14:51] <john_rambo> lotuspsychje, I just did what is mentioned here >>>> https://brave.com/linux/#linux
[14:52] <john_rambo> lotuspsychje, Is that a bad thing to do ?
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> john_rambo: the users choice, but we dont support external install methods/ppa's here
[14:54] <JoeBk> john_rambo, you can install it by clicking UbuntuSoftware.
[15:09] <jordy> Hi, the Nvidia driver(340) shipped with the Ubuntu installer isn't supported anymore and fails to install while still in the installer. It's a GeForce 9400(mac) what is recommended to do?
[15:10] <jordy> I tried ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa but ubuntu-drivers still only recognizes the 340 driver and only lists that :/
[15:11] <jordy> Ubuntu 20.04 LTS. Usb installer.
[15:12] <ExcessiveAggro> jordy - interesting... I just installed 20.04 on an nvidia system a couple weeks ago without issue.  Let me see what version I'm running
[15:13] <ExcessiveAggro> I must have upgraded because I'm running 460.32.03
[15:14] <jordy> That's the fun part, I installed Ubuntu 20.04 a few weeks ago because I was messing around with ubuntu. It instaleld just fine, today it starts erroring while in the installation progress. Post install error.
[15:14] <jordy> I tried to reinstall Ubuntu a few times but again and again the error pops up
[15:14] <ExcessiveAggro> are you sure 20.04 ships with 340? thats really old
[15:15] <jordy> yes
[15:16] <ExcessiveAggro> are you erroring on install or can you get to a command prompt after install?
[15:16] <ExcessiveAggro> I ask because this post looks pretty good for getting the newer driver installed via cmdline
[15:16] <ExcessiveAggro> https://linuxize.com/post/how-to-nvidia-drivers-on-ubuntu-20-04/
[15:19] <jordy> It's erroring on install, Ubuntu works fine but apt-get upgrade resulted dkpg error where I had to use --configure -a which showed
[15:19] <jordy> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KsM3qBbT4T/
[15:20] <jordy> which is directly after I installed Ubuntu.
[15:23] <ExcessiveAggro> Jordy is this you -> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1307374/ubuntu-20-04-nvidia-graphics-unusable
[15:23] <knackebrot> hello, is this the right place to ask? I'm running focal server, and need to install libcurl3-gnutls:i386 for srcds, but get this error: https://pastebin.com/uLDeNHK5 , I don't have any other repositories enabled for i386
[15:23] <jordy> No that's not me but they do seem to have the same issue as I hae
[15:24] <ExcessiveAggro> The solution on that post was because the latest kernel can't compile that driver - so you have to revert to an older kernel
[15:24] <jordy> I can't change kernel as the USB installer installs this kernel by default
[15:24] <ExcessiveAggro> but I'm still confused why the installer is dropping 340 on your system... maybe because the new driver doesnt support that older card?
[15:25] <jordy> Apparently. It's not modern hardware. But this should still be supported somehow..
[15:26] <ExcessiveAggro> I think the bottom of that link I sent you talks about how to revert to an older kernel
[15:26] <ExcessiveAggro> but maybe thats after install... and you are saying you cant even complete the install?
[15:27] <jordy> It installs just fine even with the error, nvidia-340 doesn't build. Ubuntu boots up fine. its just conflicting with apt-get upgrade and it keeps wanting to install 340 even though apparently the kernel doesn't support it anymore
[15:29] <ExcessiveAggro> We might need to wait for one of the higher ranking ubuntu ninjas to respond here :)
[15:29] <ExcessiveAggro> the first answer in that post talks about holding down shift to get to an older kernel, thjen researching how to remove hte other kernel so it doesnt try to revert to it after reeboot
[15:29] <jordy> uname -r replies 5.4.0-42-generic. Just great.
[15:30] <jordy> Which is what they recommend to use in that AskUbuntu post.. :(
[15:31] <ExcessiveAggro> sad music just played on my computer
[15:31] <ExcessiveAggro> i will keep searching around a bit.
[15:31] <ExcessiveAggro> but Hopefully one of these brains in here can chime in some advice
[15:32] <jordy> I hope so!
[15:32] <jordy> Thanks for helping
[15:34] <ExcessiveAggro> Sorry I wasn't much help.  I'd repost the question so that people logging in see it as unanswered.  They may think I helped in some way
[15:46] <Seiduna> hello ubuntu people. On rpi4 i have ubuntu server. I want to autologin, but i do not have gui's, and I do not have /etc/gdm3/ nor do I have /etc/lightdm/, as internet suggested after i failed to find /etc/inittab file. Thank you.
[15:50] <waveform> Seiduna, the accepted answer here ought to do the trick: https://askubuntu.com/questions/819117/how-can-i-get-autologin-at-startup-working-on-ubuntu-server-16-04-1/819154#819154 (despite being for xenial)
[15:55] <jordy> I'm quite confused now, when I try to install linux-headers-5.4.0-42-generic I get errors and messages like buildiing initial module for 5.8.0-38. While uname -a tells me that I use 5.4.0-42. What is going on here?
[15:55] <jordy> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/wX8Q8rs8WW/
[16:00] <Seiduna> waveform: worked like a charm, thank you so much.
[16:01] <waveform> jordy, sounds like you have both 5.4.0-42 and 5.8.0-38 (or bits of the latter anyway) installed. What does dpkg -l "linux-image-*" tell you is installed? (look for "ii" prefix)
[16:01] <waveform> Seiduna, excellent :)
[16:01] <EriC^^> jordy: it looks like the headers package is already installed, but it's trying to fix the broken package related to 5.8, try "dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii | nc termbin.com 9999"
[16:01] <EriC^^> paste the link it gives you here
[16:04] <jordy> EriC^^, https://termbin.com/wb2g
[16:05] <jordy> waveform, https://termbin.com/8miw
[16:06] <jordy> Apparently both kernels are installed even though I installed Ubuntu just a few minutes ago :o
[16:06] <waveform> might be that u-u (unattended-upgrades) has installed (some) security patches in the background (which would likely include the new kernel)
[16:09] <jordy> That would mean the most recommended fix would be to change to the 5.4 kernel and just stick to that, since future kernsls will keep having this issue?
[16:15] <waveform> it's possible that not everything required for the module build on the 5.8 kernel was installed at the time dkms tried to build. Might be interesting to check if linux-headers-5.8 is installed (dpkg -l "linux-headers-*") and install that if it's missing (then apt install -f to fixup the nvidia driver install - I hope anyway, I'm not at all familiar with the nvidia dkms setup unfortunately)
[16:23] <Seiduna> hm. so browsers (on rpi4 ubuntu server) chromium pulls snapd, which I do not need. workaround is to build one's own?
[16:24] <waveform> chromium's snap based on ubuntu since - erm, I want to say groovy but possibly focal? (no matter the platform, pc or pi). Firefox is still apt based
[16:26] <Seiduna> focal, i am on
[16:26] <Seiduna> so
[16:26] <Seiduna> (nice nice nice) is snap? is it taking ovet apt?
[16:28] <Seiduna> can i build chromium on ubuntu? from some debian package of so?
[16:28] <Seiduna> or* so?
[16:28] <leftyfb> Seiduna: you can build almost any open source linux application on ubuntu if it's made to do so
[16:30] <Kevin> in the new/current ubuntu installer, how can assign an md raid device as an lvm pv? i'm using the live server image http://kwzs.be/~kevin/IMG_20210115_102155868.jpg http://kwzs.be/~kevin/IMG_20210115_102147689.jpg
[16:32] <Seiduna> hey leftyfb, why is there no apt version of apps in ubuntu? going snap is ok, but why no apt packages? like chromium?
[16:35] <Kevin> alternately, is there still a way to use d-i with ubuntu 20.10?
[16:35] <waveform> Seiduna, my understanding is that snap is considered the future for chromium at least as it considerably eases the maintenance burden of keeping up with upstream security patches
[16:37] <faLUKE> hello. I disintalled bluez accidentally. Then I re-installed it with apt install bluez (with all the bluez-* utils) but I can't see the bluetooth icon on the panel anymore (on lubuntu 20.04). In addition: if I try to install bluez-qt it says  "E: Unable to locate package bluez-qt"
[16:37] <faLUKE> how can I fix this?
[16:38] <MIF> Is there a way for me to have the output print to a file and to my screen? In the contex of this command md5deep -r * > md5.txt
[16:38] <WaV> Total newb question. If I've built x program from source (let's just say irssi for example) and a new version of that program becomes available in the future, what steps are taken to "upgrade" that program? Should I "make uninstall" old version first or is it common for new versions of programs to overwrite previous versions?
[16:39] <Seiduna> hey waveform. well that i can understand, but i must say is is most dissapointing, for me at least. but ok, snap it is, if i fail do build it. I still have more questions to move along. thanl yuou
[16:39] <Seiduna> thank you
[16:43] <Kevin> WaV: neither is really a great option. it's a good idea to run install but not all software has it or keeps it reliable for all files
[16:44] <Kevin> ideally you'd make a local package, but that's nontrivial
[16:45] <waveform> MIF, "| tee md5.txt" instead of "> md5.txt"
[16:46] <MIF> ok
[16:47] <Kevin> i'll just delete the raid arrays and reboot, as long as lvm works I can work around installer bugs by moving it afterwords
[16:48] <Kevin> bets that the problem is the lvm dialog and that doesn't work either? :/
[16:50] <Kevin> yep, problem is the lvm dialog
[16:51] <Kevin> so I guess i'll go back to the desktop installer, disable internet access to work around the bug that fails when installing drivers, install without any storage, and manually migrate the boot process after?
[16:51] <Kevin> sounds fun
[16:52] <Kevin> (because it's more likely to install the correct desktopy hardware support packages than me guessing if they have changed)
[17:42] <jordy> The Ubuntu installer should install kernel 4.5, this is still at the installer. Please tell me more people are dealing with this issue.. https://i.imgur.com/GpUP2ts.jpg
[17:42] <jordy> I disabled auto updates on the installer
[17:42] <jordy> Just 3rdparty and minimal was selected.
[17:43] <jordy> Does Ubuntu change their installer often?
[17:46] <oerheks> Why disable auto updates?
[17:46] <oerheks> finish installation, reboot, update, install 340
[17:47] <jordy> To not receive the  5.8.0-38 kernel which was conflicting nvidia-340 package install too.
[17:48] <jordy> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KsM3qBbT4T/
[17:59] <Kevin> in previous versions of ubuntu there was a way to resize windows by using alt/super and middle/right mouse button (it's changed many times). has this been removed, and how can I add it back?
[18:07] <faLUKE> hey, I'm trying to turn my USB keyboard/mouse to bluetooth through https://github.com/kcolford/hidclient/  . the program runs, but the bluetooth created device is not seen by the other endpoint, what could I try?
[19:37] <geosmile> how hard is it to run a https+DNS server these days?
[19:37] <geosmile> powerDNS? something else?
[19:41] <makara1> i install teamviewer, run it, exit, but teamviewerd remains in the process list
[19:42] <makara1> i kill -9 and it respawns
[19:42] <oerheks> stop the teamviewer service?
[19:43] <oerheks> they should provide a manual for that
[19:43] <stats4647> Hi, I have dev.host.com, mail.host.com and www.host.com . Mail and www are hosted on the same server, but dev is on a separate server. All machines running 18.04.5 LTS. If I am getting certificates from letsencrypt, should I obtain separate certificates for all three services, or should I try to get wildcard certs? TIA
[19:44] <oerheks> teamviewer --help
[19:44] <oerheks>  teamviewer daemon stop
[19:44] <oerheks> lolz
[19:44] <stats4647> I am running postfix and nginx on both prod and dev
[20:17] <Cynosure-NULL> what is the command to update you bootloader?
[20:26] <pavlos> sudo update-grub
[20:27] <FortunateSon> Anyone know how to solve an error I'm getting on a Ubuntu 16.04 box when I am trying to enable kernel live patching?  the error is this: error executing enable: cannot enable machine: bad server status 401 (URL: https://livepatch.canonical.com/api/machine-tokens) server response: unauthorized
[20:29] <FortunateSon> my googling so far has led me to mess with the /etc/machine-id file and create a new one but to no avail.  I have also removed and reinstalled the canonical-livepatch snap package
[20:31] <sarnold> FortunateSon: did you get a token from https://auth.livepatch.canonical.com/ ?
[20:41] <makara1> oerheks: i did try that, and disable
[20:41] <makara1> all that does is bring up the GUI
[20:41] <makara1> i've now come to the OS to sort out the matter
[20:42] <oerheks> makara1, no idea then..
[20:42] <makara1> there must be some way of disciplining a misbehaving app, besides uninstalling it
[20:43] <makara1> doesn't everyone use teamviewer?
[20:43] <oerheks> nope, not me.
[20:43] <oerheks> https://community.teamviewer.com/English/discussion/2088/how-to-disable-teamviewerd-on-debian
[20:43] <oerheks> if that does not work, nuke it.
[20:44] <EriC^^> makara1: there's a teamviewer daemon
[20:44] <makara1> EriC^^: i can't kill the daemon
[20:46] <MarchHare> Anyone know the deal with 20.04.1's console background turning from black to blue just before throwing up a login?
[20:47] <EriC^^> makara1: did you try "teamviewer –daemon disable" ?
[20:47] <MarchHare> This is on the Server install. It wasn't changing before I upgraded.
[20:47] <makara1> ok, sudo did it
[20:47] <makara1> i don't quite understand why that's necessary. I didn't start it as sudo
[20:47] <sarnold> MarchHare: I don't recall ever seeing that in the last ~eight years
[20:48] <EriC^^> makara1: the server is running as the root user
[20:48] <MarchHare> sarnold: You've seen it? How did you disable it when it happened?
[20:48] <makara1> EriC^^: ok, when i installed it
[20:49] <FortunateSon> sarnold: My apologies for ghosting you.  I did get the token but it didn't work.  But I cotinued to fiddle with it and got another token and got that to work
[20:51] <MarchHare> sarnold: This isn't a BSOD. It's more like something is just changing the terminal colors just before the login prompt. It doesn't happen when I ssh in or anything, it's only on the actual console.
[20:55] <alystair> I'm running Ubuntu in WSL2, what's the 'proper' way to start a service when the VM is turned on/restarted?
[20:55] <sarnold> MarchHare: once you've logged in, 'reset' may fix it
[20:55] <alystair> it needs to run as root
[20:55] <sarnold> FortunateSon: all sorted out though?
[20:56] <MarchHare> sarnold: No dice. I tried that first thing.
[20:56] <MarchHare> sarnold: This affects all console instances, not just the first one.
[20:57] <alystair> it seems I can use cron, init.d, rc.d?
[20:58] <sarnold> MarchHare: oh *wow*. that's strange.
[20:58] <alystair> something about upstart as well, this is a long running service (openlitespeed)
[20:58] <MarchHare> sarnold: You're telling me.
[20:59] <sarnold> alystair: upstart probably doesn't exist in any version of ubuntu that runs on wsl
[20:59] <sarnold> !wsl
[20:59] <sarnold> alystair: there's a chance folks in that #ubuntu-on-windows channel will just know what to do :)
[20:59] <alystair> what I'm trying to do is purely based in linux
[20:59] <alystair> just happens to be in WSL
[21:01] <FortunateSon> sarnold: I think so, but I got pulled off onto another emergency : )  Boot partition got full on someone's web server and freaked out in the middle of an apt update
[21:01] <FortunateSon> im cleaning up the mess now
[21:01] <sarnold> FortunateSon: *gah*
[21:01] <sarnold> FortunateSon: that happened to me yesterday, a pal the day before..
[21:02] <sarnold> FortunateSon: the quick way to fix it, is, in a root shell, *truncate* the files with "> vmlinuz-..." etc -- truncate the oldest kernel, system.map, etc, and then you can use apt install -f to fix the rest
[21:02] <FortunateSon> the guy who set up these servers left the boot part at the default of like 250MB and NEVER removed any kernels
[21:05] <leftyfb> sarnold: TIL truncating the old boot files in order to remove them ... genius. I used to for loop through all but the running kernel and temporarily move the files out, put 1 kernel files back, purge, rinse, repeat
[21:06] <oerheks> alystair, you should read about your service and the systemd service file, not much we know about it. that is why there is a dedicated channel.  https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/ -- https://www.sitepoint.com/wsl2/
[21:07] <neo0547_> hello
[21:07] <neo0547_> :help
[21:09] <sarnold> leftyfb: ugh, hah, yeah that's just not fun. once I figured out the truncate thing it was *much* less annoying to deal with. still not fun, of course.
[21:40] <jordy> waveform, guess what, after having to install ubuntu a few times due to breaking grub by simply typing the grub update command it suddenly did not pop up the error? What was happening. No idea. but it seems to have compiled this time. Same USB installer. Same PC. Had to be something remote..
[22:14] <jayjo> if I edit grub and remove 'quiet' in order to see the boot messages when I boot, that works great and I can see messages on power on/off. Can I inspect these messages in more detail after I've booted and have a tty?
[22:43] <adfeno> Hi there, when using laptop as console/server environment, how to prevent lid-close to trigger suspend/hibernate/sleep? Changing any inside systemd-logind.conf files all to “ignore” doesn't help.
[22:45] <sarnold> did you run systemctl daemon-reload ?
[22:46] <oerheks> https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2020/05/lid-close-behavior-ubuntu-20-04/
[22:47] <oerheks> sudo gedit /etc/systemd/logind.conf # find out the line #HandleLidSwitch=suspend to ignore
[22:47] <oerheks> systemctl restart systemd-logind.service
[22:48] <sarnold> these docs are super-thin on details of making changes
[22:48] <oerheks> LidSwitchIgnoreInhibited=no
[22:59] <adfeno> oerheks: What does “LidSwitchIgnoreInhibited=no” do ?
[23:00] <oerheks> not sure, those 2 i find on many howto's
[23:02] <adfeno> oerheks: Ah I see, it tells logind to honor blockers when lid closes.
[23:04] <adfeno> Also, I just found out why my changes weren't working, I forgot to uncomment the settings. Now I'll test it, bye. :)
[23:04] <sarnold> aha :)
[23:17] <wwalker> preseed question.  I've searched and searched but only find stuff about how TO get it to partition.  I want to reinstall the OS ( on / fs ) WITHOUT rewriting the partition table!!! There's 100 TB of data I don't want to restore from backup...  Anyone done this?
[23:21] <oerheks> when i bing; ubuntu preseed reuse partitions, https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-server-73/reinstall-os-keeping-other-partitions-intact-with-preseed-4175616241/
[23:23] <wwalker> "reuse"  Thank you oerheks !  I was using things like "disable rewrite of"
[23:23] <oerheks> have fun!