[00:26] <Arrow88> hi
[00:28] <Arrow88> do you reccomend lubunto for a macbook pro?
[00:29] <tomreyn> No. Maybe Lubuntu, though.
[00:29] <Arrow88> sorry, typo
[00:29] <tomreyn> :)
[00:30] <Arrow88> I am replaceing the hd and need another os than mac
[00:30] <Arrow88> it's the old that can't be upgraded anymore, however it is still updated though
[00:31] <tomreyn> I don't really have a recommendation, nor actual experience with Apple laptops, I'm araid. But I seem to remember that it doends much on the model, it can work fine with some but not others.
[00:31] <tomreyn> I'm afraid, not a RAID.
[00:31] <Arrow88> if everything runs nice I should be fine with lubuntu or ubuntu, I think the specs are still within average
[00:32] <tomreyn> Ubuntu Desktop recommends 4 GB RAM, Lubuntu may have slightly lower recommendations.
[00:32] <Arrow88> hmm, should I spend time and energy on it then,
[00:32] <Arrow88> I think it has 4 or 8 GB
[00:33] <tomreyn> Probably.
[00:34] <Arrow88> i5 cpu, maybe it was i7,
[00:34] <Arrow88> I think it was quad core, not eight core
[00:35] <Arrow88> daft tings specs, I hardly have any idea of the effects
[00:35] <Arrow88> either things work well or not
[00:36] <Arrow88> this is just an old portable, maybe I should not spend any money on it
[11:17] <nheo> hello
[17:29] <danil> hghпроапо
[22:39] <Arrow88> I may me doing a daft thing, but I am spending money on a new SSD for an old macbook pro, I plan to install lubuntu
[22:40] <Arrow88> I  have had lubuntu before, and it ran so nicely on two different portables
[22:41] <Arrow88> Specs should be fine, even for Ubuntu, but is there something I should be prepared for?
[22:41] <Arrow88> I don't get machine back until Monday, so it's more a bit of research
[22:43] <wxl> Arrow88: macs are quirky beasts. sometimes they require a bit of wrangling to behave correctly. but especially with newer intel devices not suffering from some problem with uefi (try booting a live image to check that) it should work
[22:44] <kc2bez> That ^ + I would anticipate faster response with a ssd.
[22:45] <Arrow88> thanks
[22:45] <wxl> i can almost guarantee you will need to fiddle around with drivers to get wifi working so having ethernet access will be a big plus
[22:45] <wxl> additionally, the trackpad is likely to give you someo issues
[22:45] <wxl> and there will probably be some media keys that don't work like you think they should
[22:45] <wxl> etc.
[22:45] <Arrow88> could be an issue, but I guess I should find a cord for wired internet
[22:46] <wxl> it would be wise because it's WAY eaiser than the alternative
[22:47] <Arrow88> thanks, I shall just have to take it from there  then, and wait until monday
[22:47] <x201> hello, can you help me for runing mBlock
[22:48] <wxl> what the heck is that?
[22:48] <wxl> !info mblock
[22:48] <wxl> ^ that says "contact the creators of mblock for support" XD
[22:49] <x201> i download the mblobk package : sudo dpkg -i mBlock_4.0.4_amd64.deb
[22:49] <x201> i installed the package with : sudo dpkg -i mBlock_4.0.4_amd64.deb
[22:50] <x201> but, she refuse running, i have a logo mBlock in my desktop
[22:51] <wxl> x201: we don't provide mblock so we can't support it
[22:51] <x201> wxl: the creators of mblock are dying in
[22:51] <wxl> i can't even figure out how to download it
[22:52] <x201> wxl: i now, but i must use it in classroom
[22:52] <wxl> x201: then that's all the more reason why you should contact them for support
[22:53] <x201> wxl: mBlock  running but not display
[22:53] <wxl> x201: am i not making myself clear?
[22:54] <x201> :(
[22:55] <kc2bez> x201: it isn't a package we can do much about since it isn't in the Ubuntu archive. Run it in a terminal and report your errors to mblock.
[22:56] <wxl> i mean i can't even find this supposed debian package
[23:00] <x201> wxl: https://algodelinux.com/paquetes-de-mblock-4-para-instalar-en/
[23:00] <wxl> the thing i find so strange is you can't even find that from the website
[23:01] <x201> i dont now, why this package not exist in ubuntu reposiroty but it educational cool software
[23:01] <wxl> it probably doesn't exist because they don't even show that they have linux support on the website!
[23:01] <x201> wxl: because the devlopement of this soft for linux is stopped
[23:01] <wxl> then that's why it's not in ubuntu
[23:02] <wxl> so you're asking us for support over something that we don't provide and that isn't supported?
[23:02] <wxl> doesn't this sound ridiculous? XD
[23:02] <wxl> so what version of lubuntu are trying to use?
[23:02] <x201> lubuntu 20.04
[23:03] <x201> wxl: OS: Ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS x86_64
[23:04] <x201> wxl: i begging in linux, because my laptop dont have enough memory/processr for windows 10
[23:05] <x201> wxl: i have inslalled lubuntu for continu stading but in scool we used mBlock for programing arduino
[23:06] <kc2bez> They have a Discourse forum.  I would put a post over there. https://forum.makeblock.com/c/mblock
[23:06] <wxl> ^ agreed, if they even have support :/
[23:06] <wxl> similarly microsoft and apple wouldn't provide support for third party software
[23:07] <wxl> we've got millions of packages we DO support which is really saying something comparatively
[23:07] <wxl> but we can't support everything
[23:07] <wxl> including things which are not welll supported upstream
[23:10] <x201> kc2bez: he dont explain whoto install or run mBlock in linux
[23:11] <x201> wxl: kc2bez: i have a black window if i apply this https://www.supazter.eus/2020/05/09/mblock-scratch-arduino/
[23:12] <wxl> x201: can you explain to me why you're going to us for help and not the creators of the software?
[23:13] <x201> wxl: the creators stoped developement, i would use old version compatible with ubuntu
[23:14] <wxl> x201: and why do you think we can help when we have *zero* familiarity with this software?
[23:17] <x201> wxl: i am sorry, but i dont have a choose for graphic programming arduino in my scool
[23:17] <wxl> x201: i didn't ask you whether or not you had a choice to use this software. i'm asking you why you think we are the best people to go to for help when we know nothing about the software? wouldn't the people that created it, or at least the community around it, be better for that?
[23:18] <x201> wxl: i a not good in linux os, it's my first one experiance,
[23:18] <wxl> x201: i think you're presuming the problem is somehow related to some thing that needs to be set in linux. i think the issue is a problem wth the software itself.
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[23:19] <x201> Please excuse me, I thought you could help me, I was thinking of a compilation or installation problem that I do not understand.
[23:20] <wxl> x201: if the debian package is valid, it willl install. otherwise, it will return an error. if you did not see an error, and you see an icon on your desktop, then there's no installation problem. compilation is irrelevant in light of the package, which contains a binary (already compiled)
[23:21] <x201> wxl: no error installation
[23:21] <wxl> it may be that it only works with old versions? you could try using 18.04
[23:22] <x201> wxl: ok i dry on 18.04
[23:23] <wxl> x201: if it doesn't work, you should contact the support forum with mBlock
[23:24] <x201> the support mBlock, answer: the developent of mBlock in linux are stopped !
[23:24] <wxl> well then i don't really know what to tell you :(
[23:24] <x201> wxl: no problem
[23:25] <x201> but i wont to desinstall mblock, what the commande to do it ?
[23:25] <x201> wxl: i use that for install package
[23:25] <x201> wxl: well then i don't really know what to tell you :(
[23:25] <x201> sorry
[23:26] <x201> sudo dpkg -i mBlock_4.0.4_amd64.deb
[23:26] <x201> because the package are 200 mb
[23:26] <wxl> sudo apt purge mBlock_4.0.4_amd64.deb
[23:32] <x201> wxl: think