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| RyuKurisu[m] | I don't remember who was using VMs for testing Hirsute, but could I use LXD/LXC for development? Does anyone have any experience? | 19:01 |
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| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> RyuKurisu: if you go that route you need to use the LXD VM approach because the containerization outside of a VM will fail the desktop launching | 19:02 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> LXD isn't geared for Desktop integration at all | 19:02 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> LXD VM is LXD managed VMs under the QEMU KVM system | 19:02 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> but still ultimately a VM | 19:02 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> (I'm one of the few using VMs to test things) | 19:02 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> (but I have the insane system power for it :P) | 19:02 |
| RyuKurisu[m] | Hmm, something to look into 🧐 | 19:03 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> LXD can work for building packages though. | 19:03 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> right, LXD as a build environment is very useful | 19:03 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> or LXD as a test environment for non-desktop needs (servers, etc.) is equally useful | 19:03 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> but it's not a good solution for DE testing | 19:03 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> Yup, totally agree. | 19:03 |
| RyuKurisu[m] | I have a very meager laptop, but I don't want to constantly roll back my system, just to test stuff | 19:04 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> so use a VM | 19:04 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> but depends on your environment | 19:04 |
| RyuKurisu[m] | E.g. changing the image used by XScreenSaver | 19:04 |
| RyuKurisu[m] | So QEMU KVM is the suggested route? | 19:05 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> I think so, it should work even with meager resources | 19:06 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> I use QEMU KVM, others use VBox or VMware's solutions | 19:06 |
| RyuKurisu[m] | Something like this set up? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozYKkaVK0_A | 19:06 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> i used to use VMware's solutions until I discovered LXD has VMs xD | 19:07 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> I have an older i5 (3rd gen) and 8 G of RAM and it runs vms fine. | 19:07 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> Virt-manager is good stuff. | 19:08 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> yep | 19:08 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> the only reason I have a 6 core laptop and 32GB of RAM is I do a LOT of memory and processor intense things | 19:08 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> including regular package building locally | 19:08 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> on top of that, i also have at least 7 LXD container driven services that run at boot time to provide network services for my laptop | 19:08 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> (DNS server, data filtration, etc.) | 19:09 |
| RyuKurisu[m] | I have a Intel Celeron N4000, 4 GB RAM and 64 GB of MMC storage | 19:09 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> that's a bit small for any VMs | 19:09 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> but why 64GB of MMC storage, is the system that ancient? | 19:09 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> or is this like a netbook or something? | 19:09 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> i mean, the OTHER solution would be to pay for a 4GB VPS or something and run your Lubunut tests, etc. there | 19:10 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> which... I've done before :P | 19:10 |
| RyuKurisu[m] | 'Modern' netbook with touchscreen | 19:10 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> that's not a netbook we call that a tablet :P | 19:10 |
| RyuKurisu[m] | <lubot "[telegram] <teward001> that's no"> It has a fixed keyboard to it 😜 | 19:10 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> I bet you could run A vm it is a little tight, you will have to restrict what you are running. | 19:11 |
| RyuKurisu[m] | But I can flip it around | 19:11 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> It won't be fast but I think it would work. Especially what you are testing. | 19:11 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> yep | 19:12 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> just make sure that you keep at least 1 CPU core availaboe for your main system, if it's a single core processor you're going to have problems | 19:12 |
| RyuKurisu[m] | That's what I was thinking | 19:12 |
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| KGIII | I do daily live testing on an old i5 w/just 16 GB of RAM. I use VirtualBox with its own 'Lubuntu Testing' VM. I throw 8 GB of RAM and 2 cores at it. It's surprisingly performant. | 20:38 |
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