| gartt | Hmm, any reason when using Etcher to burn to USB thumbdrive, FreeBSD-13.0-CURRENT-amd64-20201224-3cc0c0d66a0-255241-memstick.img and FreeBSD-12.2-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img are read and boot from USB thumbdrive on my machine, but debian-10.7.0-amd64-netinst.iso and ubuntu18.04mini.iso aren't read when trying to boot from flashdrive? | 00:01 |
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| kk4ewt | try rufus | 00:13 |
| kk4ewt | img vs iso | 00:13 |
| gartt | kk4ewt: For some reason, Etcher doesn't like ISOs but says burning was successful each time | 00:15 |
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| monkwitdafunk | do i need to use ubuntu desktop, instead of ubuntu server, if i only face a captive portal for the internet? | 00:40 |
| JmaJeremy | monkwitdafunk: I guess in theory you could use a CLI browser like w3m or links | 01:32 |
| JmaJeremy | should be able to handle navigating most basic login forms but if it relies on javascript it could cause problems | 01:32 |
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| illmortal | Does anyone know if Anydesk requires your ubuntu box to have a monitor attached? I was able to remote into it whiile attached to a monitor but then as soon as I disconnected the monitor.. I have a black screen on Anydesk -.- | 02:35 |
| oerheks | change max to optimized performance? https://superuser.com/questions/1322627/black-screen-on-anydesk-connection | 02:38 |
| oerheks | else i read a lot of the same issue.. | 02:39 |
| oerheks | they should give answer, we don't get paid for their prop blob | 02:39 |
| illmortal | Oh good idea.. I'm hoping it's not because the monitor is disconnected. I'll check the settings. | 02:42 |
| bobdobbs | Hi. I've just updated to ubuntu 20.04 from 18.04. My resolution is stuck at some resolution set that looks like it's from the 1980's | 03:13 |
| bobdobbs | I have an nvidia card. | 03:14 |
| bobdobbs | How can I fix the resolution? | 03:14 |
| lotuspsychje | bobdobbs: check if your graphics driver is installed properly | 03:14 |
| bobdobbs | Hi lotuspsychje. How do I do that? | 03:14 |
| lotuspsychje | bobdobbs: sudo lshw -C video | 03:14 |
| bobdobbs | How do I disover what my driver is | 03:15 |
| lotuspsychje | bobdobbs: and to see wich version, if the driver is loaded; nvidia-smi | 03:15 |
| bobdobbs | ok... the output of that latter command tells me that it failed because it can't connect with the driver, "make sure the latest nvidia driver is installed" | 03:17 |
| bobdobbs | I guess that tells me something | 03:17 |
| lotuspsychje | bobdobbs: ok, check ubuntu-drivers list then and pick a version for install | 03:17 |
| bobdobbs | thanks | 03:18 |
| illmortal | yaaaay thanks Ubuntu for making headless remoting impossible without a HDMI Dummy Plug -.- | 03:18 |
| tomreyn | illmortal: i'd say you're mistaken then | 03:29 |
| tomreyn | although not sure what "remoting" is exactly | 03:29 |
| illmortal | Pretty much to use a VNC client to remote into a ubuntu box that doesn't have a monitor. Apparently this requires a monitor or a dummy plug in order to view the desktop. Otherwise it's a black screen. | 03:30 |
| tomreyn | you can always have a dummy screen | 03:31 |
| bobdobbs | lotuspsychje Thank you so much! You put me on the right track! | 03:37 |
| lotuspsychje | +1 | 03:37 |
| illmortal | Yeah apparently this bricks Ubuntu boxes: https://askubuntu.com/questions/453109/add-fake-display-when-no-monitor-is-plugged-in | 03:37 |
| illmortal | so I'm a little iffy about doing that. | 03:38 |
| oerheks | .. 2014.. | 03:39 |
| illmortal | assuming that's the only way to create a dummy screen for Ubuntu 20.04. | 03:39 |
| oerheks | there used to be xfvb | 03:40 |
| illmortal | Well guess I can give this dummy display option a try.. if it fails lol I'll just spend the $10: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcMaNhHkDp4 | 03:50 |
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| MIF | So I screwed up and did rm -rf ~ | 04:41 |
| MIF | is there anyway to fix this or am I screwed? | 04:41 |
| MIF | ubuntu 20.04 | 04:42 |
| MIF | my backup failed and I could not find it in testdisk | 04:42 |
| MIF | lsof | grep "/home/nathaniel" gives me | 04:43 |
| MIF | bash 2510678 nathaniel cwd DIR 8,2 0 5915646 /home/nathaniel (deleted) | 04:43 |
| MIF | sudo 2680530 root cwd DIR 8,2 0 5915646 /home/nathaniel (deleted) | 04:43 |
| Bustin | Hey there, fresh install of Ubuntu, followed a tutorial to install per-requisites for lutris, and overwatch, but launching the installer, I am getting non-stop "038c:fixme:dxgi:d3d11_swapchain_Present1 Ignored present parameters 0x71c2e0." - Then the installer does not save battle.net Anyone know of what would cause this error? I can't find a fix | 05:16 |
| Bustin | :( -thanks in advance. | 05:16 |
| oerheks | you might need vulcan, Bustin ?? | 05:17 |
| oerheks | https://forums.lutris.net/t/solved-unable-to-install-battle-net/5735 | 05:17 |
| oerheks | read the whole post .. | 05:18 |
| Bustin | oerheks, no dice. So weird, never had issues about a month ago, same computer, same everything. The only thing that may have changed, is probably the nvidia driver? | 05:27 |
| EJUST | Quiet in here for being so full of users. | 05:37 |
| EJUST | thinking of getting ubuntu on my second computer, just wondering are there mouse or keyboard or monitor issues with a kdm? | 05:38 |
| EJUST | sorry i meant kvm | 05:39 |
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| Northwoods | Hi i am getting mysql error while installing imagmagick | 07:50 |
| Northwoods | http://prntscr.com/x70t3r | 07:50 |
| Northwoods | My Baby Love | 07:53 |
| bobdobbs | Hi all. I've just upgraded to 20.04. I'm tweaking some packages to get them to run. One thing I'm missing is the "Save For Web" plugin for gimp. How do I install this 20.04? | 08:35 |
| bobdobbs | I've found a git repo for it. But the instructions for how to install it don't work: it gives generic instructions on how to use 'configure', but there's no configure script in the repo. | 08:36 |
| dbax | I used this guide https://www.snel.com/support/install-vnc-ubuntu-16-04/ to install vnc on my ubuntu server 16.04. when I create a session with root user and connect to server thro vncviewer it can see my normal gnome desktop but when I create a vnc session as a regular user I see only a gray screen after connecting with a vnc viewer. any advice? | 08:37 |
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| karab44 | hi guys | 08:58 |
| karab44 | is there any env var for TEMP ? | 08:59 |
| karab44 | printenv does not show any TMP TEMP TMPDIR or things like that | 08:59 |
| rory | karab44, "/tmp" is default, but you can override it by setting TEMP | 09:17 |
| rory | karab44, you can set it permanently https://serverfault.com/questions/72955/how-to-change-default-tmp-to-home-user-tmp | 09:17 |
| isomari | greetings, as root, even after using ssh-copy-id successfully, I still can't access without a password. What could be wrong? | 09:23 |
| geirha | Most likely the file permissions are wrong. I don't think ssh-copy-id checks or fixes those | 09:26 |
| geirha | isomari: on the target system, put the output of this in a pastebin: ls -ld ~/ ~/.ssh/ ~/.ssh/authorized_keys* | 09:27 |
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| cbreak_ | have you checked the logs? | 10:14 |
| barnex | https://askubuntu.com/questions/1051022/every-app-in-my-xubuntu-18-04-deleted-by-tasksel-please-help I did this, any way to recover my OS? | 10:14 |
| barnex | as in I taskel removed, haven't rebooted still | 10:14 |
| barnex | for now my idea is to look through dpkg log and just install every removed package? | 10:16 |
| isomari | geirha: No disrepect intened but the authorized_keys file has no issues. Its only on 3 machines that root to root and root to user are not r=working passwordless. We have many machines all working properly. I was wondering if there is some config outside of the key files that might cause this. | 10:17 |
| isomari | geirha: user to user and user to root work fine. | 10:17 |
| isomari | root to everything else is not going. | 10:18 |
| karab44 | rory thank you, my friend! | 10:18 |
| cbreak_ | isomari: ssh -v | 10:18 |
| barnex | seems like all my ppa packages are also gone? | 10:21 |
| barnex | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Tw2FW7Wcb5/ | 10:21 |
| barnex | oooh, thsi is bullshit, my OS got removed because of a bug known for 10 years https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tasksel/+bug/574287 :/ | 10:28 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 574287 in tasksel (Ubuntu) "tasksel: forcefully removes packages when tasks overlap" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 10:28 |
| barnex | so I reinstalled every available package from my dpkg log, but now they are all marked as manually installed :/ | 10:36 |
| barnex | and there's 2100 packages so yeah | 10:36 |
| barnex | I'm not going through all of them and deciding one by one which do I need | 10:36 |
| barnex | any ideas how to undo that and only have the packages i have manually installed marked as manually installed? | 10:41 |
| barnex | I'm gonna reboot and see if it even boots at all :/ | 10:41 |
| barnex | aaaaaand some of the stuff kinda works but isn't really back, like I still have chromium browser, but update-alternatives says there's only one app providing x-www-browser and that's ff | 10:54 |
| barnex | aaaaaaaaaand my bluetooth dongle doesn't seem to work anymore | 10:55 |
| barnex | so happy with my OS rn | 10:55 |
| random_programme | Hi, I want to run a checkpointing command on a container after a certain amount of memory is used by that container. How can I check the amount of memory used by that container? | 10:55 |
| BluesKaj | Hi folks | 11:36 |
| davor | hi, is there a repository where I can get fresh R 4.0 binaries on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS running on aarch64 | 11:58 |
| Sbur3 | Do I need and can I get libdvdcss? I use Ubuntu 20.10 | 12:18 |
| Ky0sh1r0 | hi there: How do I identify the initiator for a reoccuring network brisge interface 'br-<some_hex_address>' with network address 172.17.0.1? | 12:19 |
| Ky0sh1r0 | brisge -> bridge | 12:19 |
| Fily1212 | hi | 12:38 |
| Fily1212 | I think I need help for dual boot installation | 12:39 |
| rapier | hi everyone. When you make a new directory, why is its name placed inside quotation marks? | 12:42 |
| rapier | Why are names of the new created directories suddenly wrapping with in single quotes? | 12:45 |
| Fily121289 | Sorry for my disconnection: i think I need help for dual boot installation | 12:46 |
| Fily121289 | is there someone that can help me? :'( | 12:50 |
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| sputnik369 | Hey does anyone know how to get AMD Navi10 Pro driver support on Ubuntu20.04? | 12:52 |
| sputnik369 | I really want to use Linux now instead of windows, but if i cant even load DavinciResolve with my Navi10 GPU then im dead in the water... | 12:53 |
| sputnik369 | anyone know wjhat steps i can take to get this working? | 12:53 |
| cjoke | sputnik369: you can check out this site. https://linuxconfig.org/amd-radeon-ubuntu-20-04-driver-installation | 12:55 |
| Ky0sh1r0 | sputnik369: did you try these: https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-amdgpu-unified-linux-20-45 | 12:55 |
| sputnik369 | thanks taking a look now | 12:55 |
| Ky0sh1r0 | I have a rx560 with official amd drivers, and rocm also works (maybe not any more in future but atm) | 12:57 |
| sputnik369 | @Ky0sh1r0 i downloaded the Linux drivers from AMD and tried to do the install which failes right at the end and then on numerous support forums i see others have the same issue and the only resolution i found was with one support listing where a guy had to downgrade his uname -r from x.x.x.56 to x.x.x.54 or something, but i am using x.x.x.58-generic and so i found this solution to far distanced from my case. | 12:57 |
| akem | Looks like NFS is locking up my filesystem. | 12:58 |
| sputnik369 | @Ky0sh1r0 perhaps my understanding of the process is insufficient, since i was raised in a microsoft space. but this Rocm is a concept i dont think i understand, as well as the concept of some firmware installation that may/maynot be required for getting this all to work... | 13:00 |
| sputnik369 | my understanding is i download the driver from AMD, extract it to a normal folder, open terminal from it and sudo amdgup-pro-install and from there i just assume it would be enough? but it fails | 13:00 |
| sputnik369 | *amdgpu-pro-install* | 13:01 |
| sputnik369 | i also tried a varient of the install command that uses some headless switch | 13:01 |
| sputnik369 | also fails at the end | 13:02 |
| sputnik369 | im using a RX5700 card, so to be fair it isnt even that new anymore the RX6800s are out now so i cant imagine the drivers should be a problem still for my older gen 5700 that im struggling with | 13:04 |
| Ky0sh1r0 | sputnik369: I followed exaclty these steps: https://amdgpu-install.readthedocs.io/en/latest/install-installing.html#installing-the-pro-variant | 13:06 |
| Ky0sh1r0 | short version: ./amdgpu-pro-install -y | 13:06 |
| sputnik369 | yeah i started with that | 13:07 |
| sputnik369 | :) | 13:07 |
| sputnik369 | im just trying @cjoke's manual quick again now | 13:07 |
| Ky0sh1r0 | rocm is just for machine learning purposes, so if you don't do that, you won't need it ;) | 13:07 |
| sputnik369 | ok cool yeah i just need video card GPU to be detected on DavinciResolve | 13:08 |
| sputnik369 | the default Ubuntu20.04 Radeon drivers dont work for the Application | 13:08 |
| wyre | why ubuntu preserves the /etc/init.d folder? | 13:20 |
| wyre | it uses systemd, right? so ... why this sysvinit folder? | 13:20 |
| ogra | wyre, https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/focal/en/man8/systemd-sysv-generator.8.html | 13:22 |
| ogra | so even old software that has never been ported to systemd can be supported ... | 13:23 |
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| gst568923 | Hi, why if I run on terminal: `xfce4-terminal --maximize --hold -e "sudo renice -n -20 -p $(pidof twinkle)"` works, but if I run same command inside a [Desktop Entry] not works! | 13:30 |
| gst568923 | xfce4-terminal --maximize --hold -e "sudo renice -n -20 -p $(pidof twinkle)" | 13:30 |
| wyre | ogra, so cron is old software? there is some newer projects like cronie | 13:32 |
| ogra | wyre, systemd timers are supposed to eventuall replace cron i think | 13:36 |
| ogra | +y | 13:36 |
| iola | wyre: hello | 13:43 |
| wyre | iola, hi | 13:43 |
| iola | What version of ubuntu are you using or wondering about? | 13:43 |
| wyre | iola, 20.04 | 13:43 |
| iola | Certain versions have cron utilities preinstalled, namely version BEFORE systemd-timers was implemented. | 13:44 |
| iola | Ubuntu's `cron` package is the debian package `cron` which is forked/patched version of Vixie Cron 3.0 | 13:45 |
| ogra | well, it will surely still be a while til cron is completely gone from a default install | 13:45 |
| ogra | and once that happens i'd expect some transition to happen too (i.e. automatically turning cronjobs into systemd timers at release upgrade time) | 13:46 |
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| wyre | ogra, iola, I see, so .. cron is still installed in a default install, right? | 13:49 |
| iola | That being said, the default installation installs cron 3.0p11-1236ubunt1 and anacron 2.3-29 for ubuntu 20.04 | 13:49 |
| iola | Yes. | 13:49 |
| ogra | yeah | 13:49 |
| wyre | and it's a forked version of Vixie Cron 3.0 | 13:50 |
| iola | Now, wyre... why were you asking about this is arch? | 13:50 |
| gst568923 | ? | 13:50 |
| iola | Yes | 13:50 |
| ogra | and the earliest it would drop wuld be with 22.04 | 13:50 |
| wyre | iola, I was comparing both cron implementations, cronie with cron implementation used in Ubuntu | 13:50 |
| iola | *Dropped from the default install, that is. | 13:50 |
| ogra | right | 13:50 |
| iola | Unless you are looking for _very_ specific tooling differences, they are essentially managed in the same manner. | 13:51 |
| wyre | iola, I know, but the point is that cronie does work with systemd, while cron implementation in Ubuntu uses https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/focal/en/man8/systemd-sysv-generator.8.html to generate its corresponding systemd units | 13:53 |
| ogra | well, thats only for starting the cron daemon | 13:54 |
| ogra | it wont translate cronjobs | 13:54 |
| ogra | cron itself will still work exactly the way it always did ... it will just be started by a generated systemd unit instesd of a sysv script | 13:55 |
| ogra | *instead | 13:56 |
| iola | ^++ | 14:03 |
| tete_ | my scanner (samsung c480w) does not work with simple scan. it is found as WSD device and it starts scanning but i get an error when it should save the scanned document | 15:11 |
| tete_ | it says (in german, translated to english by myself): scanning failed. error with the communication with the scanner | 15:12 |
| tete_ | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DK8qwdMFxD/ | 15:13 |
| wawrek | Is it already possible to upgrade to ubuntu 21? | 15:25 |
| tete_ | my default application for http/https links is chromium, but firefox opens when i click in thunderbird on any link | 15:25 |
| wawrek | I want to upgrade, because in 21, ubuntu will make the home folders private, inaccessible to unwanted users. | 15:27 |
| wawrek | anyway, is this rigth? | 15:27 |
| cbreak_ | depending on what you understand under "private", you can already do that | 15:29 |
| macrow912 | why not issue a chmod command now to do that | 15:31 |
| wawrek | a user folder under /home should be accessible only to that users, anyone else. If I create a second user, I can access the home folders of other users on the same machine. | 15:31 |
| wawrek | I would expect it to be protected by access rights deffault | 15:31 |
| wawrek | I would expect the home folder to be protected by deffault | 15:33 |
| wawrek | I mean only the owner, should be able to access it | 15:34 |
| frad | if I execute a command with sudo, my computer waits 20 seconds before I am prompted to write a password. What's wrong with my computer? | 15:34 |
| jayjo- | When I look at echo $DISPLAY, I get :1, when I suspected I'd get :0. Is there a way to inspect all available x servers running? I only seem to have the one process, is there something else at :0? | 15:36 |
| Your_Dog | wawrek: IIRC Ubuntu changed it in a way that other users can access (Read only) other user's home directory. This includes subfolders and files as well (Ofcourse as Read only) | 15:37 |
| Your_Dog | well by default that is | 15:38 |
| bdiddy | jayjo-: :1 isn't wrong.. | 15:39 |
| wawrek | Your_Dog: I don't want other users to access my files by default. In this case, is it safe to play with chmod on the level of home folders? | 15:40 |
| Your_Dog | hmmh, this is indeed a tricky question, tricky because I'm assuming most distro-level applications will expect this behavior or has been modified in a way to take advantage of this behavior. | 15:42 |
| Your_Dog | Then again I don't think there are apps that really do that now. | 15:42 |
| wawrek | I guess, I have to be careful while changing access permissions on a home folder... | 15:43 |
| wawrek | I have heard that ubuntu 21 will change the implementation of home folders. Is that so? | 15:43 |
| Your_Dog | I don't think so but perhaps I am wrong | 15:44 |
| wawrek | I found this here: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/01/private-home-directory-in-ubuntu-21-04 | 15:46 |
| wawrek | Maybe I am wrong | 15:46 |
| Your_Dog | well that would be certainly an interesting one, IIRC there where alot of people that hated that they changed how default permission works for home folder. I mean I think only Ubuntu (and majority of its derivatives) have this as their default permission. | 15:49 |
| wawrek | other Linux distros don't share the same permissions system for user's home folders? | 15:55 |
| wawrek | I thought it was implemented that way accross all of the linux ecosystem | 15:56 |
| pavlos | wawrek: usually home dirs are 755 but seems that with 21.04 they will be 750 | 15:58 |
| frad | if I execute a command with sudo, my computer waits 20 seconds before I am prompted to write a password. is this normal? | 15:59 |
| frad | 20.10 | 15:59 |
| agvantibo66 | Yes | 15:59 |
| iola | wawrek: You have nothing to worry about. | 16:00 |
| cbreak_ | wawrek: linux doesn't care about the permissions you set for your homedir | 16:00 |
| iola | wawrek: The rest of us linux users defaul to 700. 750 from 755 will cause you zero problems. | 16:00 |
| wawrek | thanks for the info | 16:00 |
| cbreak_ | chmod -R o= ~ | 16:00 |
| agvantibo66 | This is because sudo is bloat. Get doas here: https://github.com/slicer69/doas | 16:00 |
| wawrek | can I use 700? | 16:00 |
| agvantibo66 | Doas is just a faster sudo alternative | 16:01 |
| cbreak_ | wawrek: why? | 16:01 |
| cbreak_ | the primary group should be your own group | 16:01 |
| agvantibo66 | Yep, so 7770 | 16:01 |
| wawrek | I just thought I want it to be more restricive | 16:01 |
| cbreak_ | it's not more restrictive | 16:01 |
| agvantibo66 | Oh wait 770 | 16:01 |
| iola | No not 770 | 16:01 |
| iola | Stop with the rediculousness. | 16:01 |
| MLKVA51- | With this Linux... Are there a VPN that is free that has a GUI? | 16:01 |
| wawrek | iola: how do you mean? | 16:02 |
| iola | 750 will allows users assigned to YOUR group to be able to read and execute files in your home directory. But only users assigned to YOUR group. | 16:02 |
| iola | 700, and only YOU and root can see, enumerate, read, write, and execute files in your home direcory. | 16:03 |
| agvantibo66 | @iola Ubuntu comes with gnome-control-center preinstalled, this is called "settings" | 16:03 |
| tomreyn | MLKVA51-: VPN is a protocol (or a collection of protocols really), you'll need a server and a client to use it. what you arer referring to is a hosted vpn, usually sold as a (software as a service). ubuntu only provides software, not services. | 16:03 |
| cbreak_ | (the only user in your group is you) | 16:03 |
| iola | Changing from 755 -> 750 or even more restrictive 700 is perfectly fine. | 16:03 |
| wawrek | thanks | 16:03 |
| agvantibo66 | @iola you can add ovpn files there | 16:03 |
| MLKVA51- | < looking for a BSD chan, that people are really talking in, other than waiting in line | 16:03 |
| wawrek | that's what I wanted to know | 16:03 |
| iola | It wont even effect gnome | 16:03 |
| wawrek | sounds good ;) | 16:04 |
| iola | And you should never put ovpn files anywhere other than /etc/openvpn/client | 16:04 |
| cbreak_ | if you run the command I showed you, you'll make it restrictive | 16:04 |
| cbreak_ | without all the octal nonsense | 16:04 |
| tomreyn | !alis | MLKVA51- | 16:04 |
| ubottu | MLKVA51-: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http" | 16:04 |
| iola | agvantibo66: You are incredibly misinformed to standard practices for securing and safely operating a single user system. | 16:04 |
| iola | Now I remember why I never idle here anymore | 16:05 |
| * agvantibo66 winced | 16:05 | |
| tomreyn | frad: that's unexpectedly long | 16:05 |
| pavlos | MLKVA51-: there is #freebsd, #openbsd | 16:06 |
| frad | tomreyn, so, any way to solve it? | 16:06 |
| tomreyn | frad: check your logs, i.e. run journalctl -f in a temrinal window, then run a sudo command in another, and post the output added to the journal to the ubuntu pastebin | 16:06 |
| tomreyn | (and share the link here) | 16:06 |
| pavlos | frad: do /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname have the same hostname? | 16:08 |
| tomreyn | frad: i have to leave for now, will be back later, but there are others here who can help when you provide actionable info, such as error messages from the logs. | 16:12 |
| * agvantibo66 Begs for +o | 16:18 | |
| agvantibo66 | Is uninstalling sudo and using doas a good idea on Ubuntu 20.04 | 16:19 |
| agvantibo66 | Huh? | 16:20 |
| * agvantibo66 Waits nervously | 16:21 | |
| mefistofeles | agvantibo66: I'd guess many packages/apps depend on sudo | 16:21 |
| leftyfb | agvantibo66: no, it is not a good idea. Unless you are keen on modifying your distribution beyond what is supported here. | 16:23 |
| agvantibo66 | mefistofeles Does apt prompt that this package is a dependency, or it just grinds everything silently? | 16:23 |
| leftyfb | agvantibo66: why do you feel the need to replace sudo? | 16:23 |
| agvantibo66 | It's quite slow. Doas is faster. I already installed doas and aliased sudo to it, but I just don't want anything not needed laying around | 16:24 |
| leftyfb | agvantibo66: doas is not supported here. You would be on your own | 16:26 |
| agvantibo66 | thanks leftyfb. I'll just leave it as is. | 16:26 |
| * agvantibo66 Waves to TheFu and recognizes him as an Ubuntu Forums moderator | 16:27 | |
| cbreak_ | if sudo is slow for you, you probably have other problems | 16:27 |
| cbreak_ | since it is not slow in general | 16:27 |
| agvantibo66 | Haha maybe | 16:27 |
| agvantibo66 | When I use up 4gb of ram for VMs, and run pycharm, firefox, and zoom symultaneously (On 8 gb total), everything is quite slow | 16:29 |
| cbreak_ | :/ | 16:29 |
| cbreak_ | just built a new system, 64 GB RAM... was surprisingly cheap | 16:30 |
| agvantibo66 | I can't | 16:30 |
| cbreak_ | only around 320 CHFr for DDR4-ECC DIMMs | 16:30 |
| cbreak_ | (4x16) | 16:30 |
| agvantibo66 | I am actually 14 yrs old. And live in Russia. Figures... | 16:30 |
| agvantibo66 | So no ram upgrades | 16:31 |
| cbreak_ | then maybe VMs might not be the optimal thing to run | 16:31 |
| agvantibo66 | Yep | 16:31 |
| cbreak_ | maybe something like lxc containers are cheaper, if they work for you | 16:32 |
| agvantibo66 | But I need android x86 for games, like free among us | 16:32 |
| agvantibo66 | I have thought changing the hypervisor from Virtualbox to something lighter, like QEMU, but i've never had the time | 16:33 |
| agvantibo66 | I have tried the AQEMU GUI once, but didn't like it. And I just don't want to mess with one-page long qemu commands (If I don't use the GUI) | 16:34 |
| leftyfb | agvantibo66: among us is $4.99 USD on Steam on Ubuntu | 16:36 |
| agvantibo66 | I'm a total cheapskate. If I can save a few bucks for the "inconvenience" of 5 minutes of vm lag a day, I'll save. | 16:37 |
| frad | pavlos, wow, no... different hostnames... | 16:42 |
| pavlos | frad: they should the same | 16:43 |
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| agvant1b0 | 'bit more leet, just a bit | 16:44 |
| frad | pavlos, so how comr hostnamectl doesn't change hostnames systemwide? | 16:44 |
| agvant1b0 | frad try sudo nano /etc/hostname, see for yourself, change for yourself | 16:46 |
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| pavlos | frad: sudo hostnamectl set-hostname newNameHere will change /etc/hostname but not /etc/hosts | 16:50 |
| frad | pavlos, exactly that I was thinking now | 16:50 |
| frad | so I need to change /etc/hosts | 16:50 |
| octav1a | I have four empty nvme disks that I would like to use as scratch for very fast writing (scientific program, don't care at all about redundancy). Do you think I would get better performance using LVM to make a JBOD, or mdadm to make a software raid0 ? | 16:52 |
| pavlos | frad: yes and restart to make sure all is well, then sudo should be immediate | 16:52 |
| frad | pavlos, we don't understand each other. I dont know ho to change /etc/hosts | 16:57 |
| pavlos | frad: cat /etc/hostname what is your hostname? | 17:01 |
| pavlos | frad: then sudo edit /etc/hosts, 127.0.1.1 thesamename | 17:02 |
| pavlos | frad: use an editor you're familiar with (nano, vi, ...) | 17:02 |
| frad | pavlos, would it work with geany? I open /etc/hostname with geany and save it | 17:02 |
| pavlos | frad: sure | 17:03 |
| frad | but I need to do it as sudo pavlos ... | 17:03 |
| frad | correct? | 17:03 |
| pavlos | frad: yes since you're modifying /etc | 17:04 |
| mguy | octav1a: wouldn't take you long to run it both ways and measure speed. | 17:14 |
| cbreak | octav1a: zfs :) | 17:21 |
| anibic | I cannot install Ubuntu 20.04.1-desktop-amd64 . I do not get the screen to earse disk and encrypt it jumps to the screen where my HDD is not listed. However I can install Windows on the same 1TB seagate HDD. | 17:30 |
| coconut | I don't know whether anyone here read the conversation between me and Jeremy31 here yesterday about a non-bootable 20.04.1 after upgrading packages on a new install of the desktop iso? | 17:31 |
| coconut | I wanted to let you know that i could fix the broken boot on apt upgrade after a new install of 20.04.1, by doing the following: | 17:31 |
| coconut | Removing the package "linux-modules-nvidia-440-generic-hwe-20.04" first, then apt update && apt install --reinstall linux-generic, then reboot, then apt update && apt upgrade, then reboot again. | 17:31 |
| coconut | After this there is no 5.8 installed anymore, and 20.04.1 can just reboot again normally. | 17:31 |
| coconut | Probably a lot users here know how this works already, and don't need it, but i just wanted to let you know that it /does/ fix this problem. Thank Jeremy31 for the help. Bye! | 17:31 |
| coconut | :) | 17:31 |
| anibic | Never has any problem with Ubuntu so far | 17:32 |
| shinobi | I have multiple monitors that are in extended mode on 20.04. All is well until the system times out and goes to the lock screen. When I unlock the desktop the monitors act like they are in "mirror" mode. Display settings still shows "extended" and I have to apply "mirror" mode and revert the change to bring them back. Anyone else experiencing this or have a fix? | 17:32 |
| anibic | Each time I boot I see ir checks the disk (bootable usb by rufus) all is good | 17:35 |
| anibic | Any solution ? | 17:35 |
| frad | pavlos, thanks, it worked | 17:36 |
| leftyfb | anibic: try looking in your BIOS and see if there's a RAID enabled. Or try toggling EFI | 17:36 |
| anibic | I have made it MBR not GPT. | 17:36 |
| anibic | I disble URFI in bios and CSM always and Boot legacy only | 17:37 |
| anibic | I have made the bootable usb by rufus as MBR and have CSM support=always, Storage Boot =Legacy only, | 17:40 |
| pavlos | frad: good | 17:40 |
| leftyfb | anibic: I would not use rufus. Try etcher.io | 17:42 |
| octav1a | cbreak: zfs on raid0 of jbod? | 17:45 |
| octav1a | is that non-journaled? | 17:45 |
| octav1a | or* | 17:45 |
| cbreak | octav1a: zfs on raw disks | 17:59 |
| cbreak | zfs has its own version of "journal" | 17:59 |
| c0fe | what am i screwing up with this command? cat <<EOF > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nginx.list\n deb https://nginx.org/packages/ubuntu/ focal nginx\n deb-src https://nginx.org/packages/ubuntu/ focal ngin\n EOF | 18:27 |
| c0fe | i am not familiar with the cat command | 18:30 |
| rifle | c0fe: what are you trying to accomplish? | 18:33 |
| cbreak | c0fe: you can just open that file in a text editor and add those lines yourself... | 18:38 |
| cbreak | you don't have to use shell IO redirection and here-files | 18:38 |
| rifle | or if lazy, use echo -e | 18:39 |
| pavlos | c0fe: you need sudo | 18:50 |
| c0fe | pavlos: i figured it out, with echo -e but i am running as root anyways | 18:55 |
| Mava42 | ok, bizarre: my machine does not reply to ping. iptables: accept/accept/accept (ufw status: inactive). /proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_all is 0. and I can see icmp echo requests coming in tcpdump | 18:56 |
| Mava42 | sed s/in tcpdump/via tcpdump/g | 18:57 |
| pavlos | Mava42: pls describe your network, is the machine local? is it over vpn? | 18:59 |
| Mava42 | pavlos: local, | 19:00 |
| pavlos | Mava42: so machine could be 192.168.1.10 and you ping this ip from another local machine 192.168.1.20 and ping fails | 19:01 |
| Mava42 | true, other way round it works nicely | 19:01 |
| Mava42 | so from .1.20 to .1.10 works, 1.10 to 1.20 fails, both can ping .1.1 | 19:01 |
| pavlos | Mava42: are both linux systems? | 19:03 |
| Mava42 | both | 19:03 |
| Mava42 | 1.10 deb and 1.20 ubuntu 20.04 | 19:03 |
| pavlos | can you ssh deb and paste 'ip addr' and 'ip route'? | 19:05 |
| Mava42 | no I wont, its meaningless | 19:05 |
| Mava42 | this feels like a firewall or so problem in the Focal | 19:06 |
| genewitch | how do i tell if my ubuntu server issues are kernel related, my kern.log going back to december 27th are riddled with NMI, MCE, stalled CPU, etc errors. There's not really a reason this should be happening, the computer is clean, it runs stress tests, but when it starts handling guest VMs it starts freaking out | 19:07 |
| genewitch | it's running 4.4.0-200 | 19:08 |
| Mava42 | hmm, also it seems that if I open e.g. port 12345 using nc on the focal, I cannot connect to it. only seeing "TCP syn" flags in the tcpdump | 19:08 |
| sarnold | genewitch: MCE usually means hardware is failing | 19:09 |
| sarnold | genewitch: the rasdaemon package has a ras-mc-ctl command that might be able to tell you more about your MCEs | 19:10 |
| genewitch | BRB DC doing a reboot of this hyper | 19:16 |
| genewitch | sarnold: thank you | 19:17 |
| pavlos | Mava42: https://termbin.com/0xuw | 19:23 |
| gartt | Trying to figure out why my Lenovo P620 will boot from any FreeBSD .img burned to a flashdrive but not an ubuntu ISO... I'm using etcher to burn | 19:35 |
| gartt | And of course the box is set to boot USB flashdrives before the HDD | 19:35 |
| tomreyn | gartt: did you verify the checksum of the downloaded ubuntu install .iso against the website? | 19:36 |
| tomreyn | etcher is good for ensuring the iso you have properly lands on the installer media, but that's step #2, first you need to verify the download is in a good condition. | 19:37 |
| gartt | tomreyn: I verified that a macbook booted from the same ubuntu thumbdrive fine, so it shouldn't be an integrity issue | 19:38 |
| tomreyn | gartt: that's not a proper test, though | 19:40 |
| gartt | tomreyn: Agreed, but when downloading one of the ISOs such as https://ubuntu.com/download/server ubuntu server, it just prompts me to download, and there's no hashsum visible to match against | 19:42 |
| gartt | I retract that, sorry. Big fat button that says Verify | 19:43 |
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| Tom01 | Is somebody using Windows 10 here? Is there a window manager to get rid of the unspeakable start menu? | 19:49 |
| Tom01 | o.k. wrong channel | 19:49 |
| compdoc | lol | 19:50 |
| compdoc | there is, but we dare not speak its name | 19:50 |
| gartt | tomreyn: Just downloaded the latest server ISO, and ubuntu-20.10-live-server-amd64.iso: OK <-- verified fine | 20:04 |
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| hansol | is good plesk for ubuntu ? | 20:36 |
| Industrial | Hi! | 20:41 |
| Industrial | When I install the NVIDIA driver 460 (latest) and reboot I get a black screen. I already disabled the nouveau driver, that isn't it. I have no Optimus. No 2 GFX cards, only one that is supported officially by the NVIDIA driver (from the nvidia website). It's a GTX 2070 SUPER mobile / Max-Q | 20:42 |
| Industrial | When I boot into livecd (usb stick) and chroot into my disk and remove all nvidia packages it is fixed again and I get my GUI back | 20:43 |
| Industrial | When I install version 390 then I get a 800x600 display and I dont know how to change that to native resolution. | 20:43 |
| Industrial | What now? | 20:43 |
| Industrial | I have tried most solutions but they end up telling you to reinstall the latest version of the nvidia drivers | 20:44 |
| Industrial | I can not get into a TTY with Ctrl + Alt + F1-F7 | 20:44 |
| Industrial | So I can not check my log files to see why it is giving me a black screen | 20:44 |
| Industrial | I also do not own a monitor so I can't check if other displays work :( (a suggestion on askubuntu.com) | 20:45 |
| Industrial | I also tried the driver from the nvidia website but it told me to use the ubuntu one instead | 20:45 |
| Aavar_ | How can I easily rename a file to include the creation date (not the modification date)? | 21:08 |
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| sarnold | Aavar: are you sure that your filesystem supports recording the creation date? not all filesystems do | 21:13 |
| Aavar | sarnold: This is Ext4... i'm not sure. I figured out a way to not change the date after unpacking the file, so now it's the same date :) | 21:14 |
| sarnold | woot | 21:15 |
| Aavar | (Actually, that was on NTFS before the upload. Anyway, Problem solved ;)) | 21:15 |
| sarnold | Aavar: stat(1) emits "Birth: -" for my systems.. depending upon how many of these things you need to do, a bit of awk / grep / sh / kind of stuff around stat might work okay. but if you've got hundreds or thousands, it'd probably be better to write a tool in python or rust or go or something | 21:17 |
| bray90820 | Anyone know of a launcher where I can run bash scripts from the menubar | 21:36 |
| janisozaur | hi, how do install debug symbols for libsdl2? | 21:37 |
| coconut | wow... ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ## wants to remove "libnvidia-compute-450 mesa-vulkan-drivers ubuntu-mate-core ubuntu-mate-desktop xorg". | 21:41 |
| sarnold | janisozaur: hopefully these has something useful https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Debug%20Symbol%20Packages | 21:42 |
| coconut | which probably is a mess by me removing "linux-modules-nvidia-440-generic-hwe-20.04". Which i did to fix a boot issue... | 21:42 |
| coconut | i don't want to install the 5.8 kernel on 20.04.1... anything i can do to fix this? | 21:44 |
| coconut | seems i can install 5.8 and configure grub to boot the 5.4 version | 21:46 |
| sarnold | coconut: try this: sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-hwe-20.04- linux-generic | 21:47 |
| coconut | i do think someone needs to fix the repo though if you ask me | 21:47 |
| sarnold | it was an intentional choice to upgrade to 5.8 kernels, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseNotes#Ubuntu_Desktop | 21:48 |
| coconut | sarnold, yeah but with that the 5.8 kernel gets installed right? Well if i do that and boot it too, my system does not boot.... | 21:48 |
| sarnold | coconut: note the - at the end of linux-generic-hwe-20.04- | 21:49 |
| coconut | sarnold, yeah but that edge version does not work with my laptop | 21:53 |
| sarnold | coconut: note that when you use apt install foo- apt will *uninstall* foo. | 21:54 |
| coconut | sarnold, yeah but i do not have that kernel installed | 21:55 |
| coconut | and linux-generic already is | 21:55 |
| sarnold | coconut: oh. I thought it was installing that kernel that broke you :) | 21:55 |
| coconut | sarnold, it did... and so i fixed that by a reinstall and removed linux-generic-hwe-20.04 before apt update && apt upgrade. | 21:59 |
| coconut | but now ubuntu-drivers does not like to do its stuff | 21:59 |
| jeremy31 | It means that from 20.04.2 release Ubuntu Desktop will gain new major kernel versions every 6 months through to summer of 2022. | 22:01 |
| jeremy31 | A bit confusing since it mentions the second point release and it hasn't been released yet | 22:01 |
| sarnold | yeah | 22:03 |
| coconut | jeremy31, so if install that kernel and configure grub to boot the 5.4 it will fix itself? | 22:05 |
| jeremy31 | coconut: What is wrong with the driver manager? | 22:07 |
| coconut | jeremy31, it installs essential packages | 22:08 |
| coconut | libnvidia-compute-450 mesa-vulkan-drivers ubuntu-mate-core ubuntu-mate-desktop xorg | 22:08 |
| coconut | *uninstalls | 22:08 |
| jeremy31 | coconut: You might be able to reinstall that nvidia hwe package and see what happens. I did a dependency check and it only depends on itself | 22:10 |
| coconut | jeremy31, ok will do that tomorrow, my bed calls now | 22:11 |
| coconut | thanks jeremy31 | 22:11 |
| gartt | Put both ubuntu-20.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso and ubuntu-20.04.1-live-server-amd64.iso on usb thumbdrives, and nothing - didn't read at boot and booted to HDD. ubuntu-20.10-live-server-amd64.iso did boot from usb thumbdrive, but I got a TPM interrupt not working, polling instead error. Brand new Lenovo P620 | 22:16 |
| gartt | Debian wouldn't boot either. FBSD installed perfectly, but hardware support sucked for my ethernet card | 22:17 |
| tomreyn | gartt: sounds like a hardware / more likely firmware problem. how did you "put [those isos] on usb thunbdrives", though? and diy ou verify the checksums for thos eimages as well (you only discussed 20.10 server in terms of ISO checksum verification so far). | 22:24 |
| tomreyn | also, is the firmware of this computer up to date? | 22:25 |
| tomreyn | and you should be able to disable TPM in the mainboard firmware setup menu (UEFI/legacy BIOS setup menu) | 22:25 |
| sarnold | hmm, re the 20.04 releases, I wonder if that processor supports an OS that old | 22:26 |
| sarnold | there's a consistent murmur of amd chips with problems booting OSes unless they're brand-spanking-new, I've never understood why exactly | 22:26 |
| gartt | tomreyn: I tried Ubuntu's Startup Disk Creator, Etcher, and dd, and the 3 gave identical results; what worked on one will work using all methods, and what didn't work on any of them didn't work on any others, so at lesat that was consistent | 22:26 |
| sarnold | it feels like the sort of thing that'd kill a processor in the marketplace | 22:26 |
| gartt | sarnold: This is a Threadripper Pro, so it's a pretty new chip | 22:27 |
| sarnold | yeah | 22:27 |
| gartt | However, FBSD usually utterly sucks at hardware, and it installed fine, except for the ethernet card | 22:27 |
| tomreyn | 20.04.1 has a *somewhat* recent kernel, i think | 22:27 |
| gartt | tomreyn: 20.04 was ignored and didn't boot while ubuntu-20.10 did but gave me the TPM error | 22:28 |
| tomreyn | gartt: okay, this explains how you wrote the iso's to the installer media. it doesn'T explain whether you checked checksums. | 22:28 |
| tomreyn | so try 20.10 again, but disable tpm | 22:28 |
| gartt | tomreyn: I checked checksums and they were fine | 22:31 |
| tomreyn | ok! | 22:32 |
| gartt | So I'm stumped | 22:35 |
| tomreyn | https://download.lenovo.com/pccbbs/thinkcentre_pdf/ts_p620_ubuntu_linux_20.04_installation_v1.0.pdf | 22:35 |
| tomreyn | ^ first hit on a web search for "Ubuntu Lenovo P620" | 22:37 |
| gartt | tomreyn: Thanks a lot. I'd disabled secure boot earlier, but Power on the system and press the function F12key when the Lenovo splash screen appears | 22:37 |
| gartt | I'll give that a shot | 22:37 |
| MartinG | Hi all Newb here so apologies in advance if I ask a dull question | 22:56 |
| MartinG | I'm having issues getting an icmp echo reply from my Ubuntu VM | 22:57 |
| MartinG | Anyone come across this? | 22:57 |
| sarnold | MartinG: how did you set up the networking? | 22:59 |
| sarnold | MartinG: some of the networking modes only transmit tcp, not icmp; can you do tcp things with it? | 22:59 |
| tomreyn | gartt: https://certification.ubuntu.com/hardware/202006-28010 | 22:59 |
| MartinG | Its an Ubuntu v20 VM that im using in a GNS3 lab environment so it just has a basic ipconfig | 22:59 |
| xcfe_100 | anyone know of a way to set a custom keybinding? I want to map my Ctrl+e key so that it send the End key when pressed. Is this possible? | 23:00 |
| MartinG | I can ping a directly connected interface but nothing else | 23:00 |
| tomreyn | !yy.mm | MartinG | 23:00 |
| ubottu | MartinG: Ubuntu version numbers are: YY.MM (YY=release year,MM=release month). Each year sees two releases, so just specifying YY is imprecise. See also https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle | 23:00 |
| MartinG | 20.04.1 LTS | 23:01 |
| MartinG | Ok sorry wrong room | 23:03 |
| MartinG | Actually no its not :) | 23:03 |
| MartinG | So I have run a tcpdump session and I can see reemote ping requests coming into the VM | 23:04 |
| MartinG | but no replys leaving | 23:04 |
| tomreyn | MartinG: so, by default, an Ubuntu 20.04 LTS installation would respond to ICMP Echo Requests | 23:04 |
| tomreyn | So either your Ubuntu installation isn't a default one (custom image / installer), you or someone or somethjing has since modified the installations' configuration, or, maybe most likely, something in this lab network doesn't pass through those packets. | 23:05 |
| MartinG | Its odd behaviour but thanks anyway | 23:06 |
| MartinG | The ICMP request is traversing the nodes to get to the Ubuntu Client because I can see them | 23:06 |
| MartinG | sudo tcpdump -i ens39 -qtln icmp | 23:06 |
| MartinG | IP 10.10.10.3 > 172.16.160.129: ICMP echo request, id 49155, seq 1, length 64 | 23:07 |
| MartinG | IP 10.10.10.3 > 172.16.160.129: ICMP echo request, id 49155, seq 2, length 64 | 23:07 |
| MartinG | And that node is 2 hops away | 23:07 |
| gartt | tomreyn: Thanks again | 23:10 |
| shinobi | my 20.04 system likes to drop my wifi after a period of time. Doesn't happen when I boot to windows. Anyone have an idea on how to troubleshoot? | 23:47 |
| jeremy31 | shinobi: Check in terminal to see if power management is enabled> iwconfig | 23:47 |
| shinobi | jeremy31: yes power management is on | 23:49 |
| jeremy31 | shinobi: in terminal> sudo sed -i 's/wifi.powersave = 3/wifi.powersave = 2/' /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/default-wifi-powersave-on.conf && systemctl restart network-manager.service | 23:50 |
| jeremy31 | shinobi: that will disconnect you for a second or 2 | 23:50 |
| shinobi | let's test it out | 23:51 |
| shinobi | jeremy31: Done. Should be easy to test, I shouldn't see reconnection attempts with my irc client | 23:54 |
| shinobi | Thanks!! | 23:55 |
| jeremy31 | shinobi: check iwconfig again | 23:55 |
| shinobi | jeremy31: It shows off | 23:55 |
| jeremy31 | shinobi: good | 23:55 |
| shinobi | I have multiple monitors that are in extended mode on 20.04. All is well until the system times out and goes to the lock screen. When I unlock the desktop the monitors act like they are in "mirror" mode. Display settings still shows "extended" and I have to apply "mirror" mode and revert the change to bring them back. Anyone else experiencing this or have a fix? | 23:58 |
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