[00:01] <gartt> Hmm, any reason when using Etcher to burn to USB thumbdrive, FreeBSD-13.0-CURRENT-amd64-20201224-3cc0c0d66a0-255241-memstick.img and FreeBSD-12.2-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img are read and boot from USB thumbdrive on my machine, but debian-10.7.0-amd64-netinst.iso and ubuntu18.04mini.iso aren't read when trying to boot from flashdrive?
[00:13] <kk4ewt> try rufus
[00:13] <kk4ewt> img vs iso
[00:15] <gartt> kk4ewt: For some reason, Etcher doesn't like ISOs but says burning was successful each time
[00:40] <monkwitdafunk> do i need to use ubuntu desktop, instead of ubuntu server, if i only face a captive portal for the internet?
[01:32] <JmaJeremy> monkwitdafunk: I guess in theory you could use a CLI browser like w3m or links
[01:32] <JmaJeremy> should be able to handle navigating most basic login forms but if it relies on javascript it could cause problems
[02:35] <illmortal> Does anyone know if Anydesk requires your ubuntu box to have a monitor attached? I was able to remote into it whiile attached to a monitor but then as soon as I disconnected the monitor.. I have a black screen on Anydesk -.-
[02:38] <oerheks> change max to optimized performance? https://superuser.com/questions/1322627/black-screen-on-anydesk-connection
[02:39] <oerheks> else i read a lot of the same issue..
[02:39] <oerheks> they should give answer, we don't get paid for their prop blob
[02:42] <illmortal> Oh good idea.. I'm hoping it's not because the monitor is disconnected. I'll check the settings.
[03:13] <bobdobbs> Hi. I've just updated to ubuntu 20.04 from 18.04. My resolution is stuck at some resolution set that looks like it's from the 1980's
[03:14] <bobdobbs> I have an nvidia card.
[03:14] <bobdobbs> How can I fix the resolution?
[03:14] <lotuspsychje> bobdobbs: check if your graphics driver is installed properly
[03:14] <bobdobbs> Hi lotuspsychje. How do I do that?
[03:14] <lotuspsychje> bobdobbs: sudo lshw -C video
[03:15] <bobdobbs> How do I disover what my driver is
[03:15] <lotuspsychje> bobdobbs: and to see wich version, if the driver is loaded; nvidia-smi
[03:17] <bobdobbs> ok... the output of that latter command tells me that it failed because it can't connect with the driver, "make sure the latest nvidia driver is installed"
[03:17] <bobdobbs> I guess that tells me something
[03:17] <lotuspsychje> bobdobbs: ok, check ubuntu-drivers list then and pick a version for install
[03:18] <bobdobbs> thanks
[03:18] <illmortal> yaaaay thanks Ubuntu for making headless remoting impossible without a HDMI Dummy Plug -.-
[03:29] <tomreyn> illmortal: i'd say you're mistaken then
[03:29] <tomreyn> although not sure what "remoting" is exactly
[03:30] <illmortal> Pretty much to use a VNC client to remote into a ubuntu box that doesn't have a monitor. Apparently this requires a monitor or a dummy plug in order to view the desktop. Otherwise it's a black screen.
[03:31] <tomreyn> you can always have a dummy screen
[03:37] <bobdobbs> lotuspsychje Thank you so much! You put me on the right track!
[03:37] <lotuspsychje> +1
[03:37] <illmortal> Yeah apparently this bricks Ubuntu boxes: https://askubuntu.com/questions/453109/add-fake-display-when-no-monitor-is-plugged-in
[03:38] <illmortal> so I'm a little iffy about doing that.
[03:39] <oerheks> .. 2014..
[03:39] <illmortal> assuming that's the only way to create a dummy screen for Ubuntu 20.04.
[03:40] <oerheks> there used to be xfvb
[03:50] <illmortal> Well guess I can give this dummy display option a try.. if it fails lol I'll just spend the $10: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcMaNhHkDp4
[04:41] <MIF> So I screwed up and did rm -rf ~
[04:41] <MIF> is there anyway to fix this or am I screwed?
[04:42] <MIF> ubuntu 20.04
[04:42] <MIF> my backup failed and I could not find it in testdisk
[04:43] <MIF>  lsof | grep "/home/nathaniel" gives me
[04:43] <MIF> bash      2510678                          nathaniel  cwd       DIR                8,2         0    5915646 /home/nathaniel (deleted)
[04:43] <MIF> sudo      2680530                               root  cwd       DIR                8,2         0    5915646 /home/nathaniel (deleted)
[05:16] <Bustin> Hey there, fresh install of Ubuntu, followed a tutorial to install per-requisites for lutris, and overwatch, but launching the installer, I am getting non-stop "038c:fixme:dxgi:d3d11_swapchain_Present1 Ignored present parameters 0x71c2e0." - Then the installer does not save battle.net  Anyone know of what would cause this error? I can't find a fix
[05:16] <Bustin> :(  -thanks in advance.
[05:17] <oerheks> you might need vulcan, Bustin ??
[05:17] <oerheks> https://forums.lutris.net/t/solved-unable-to-install-battle-net/5735
[05:18] <oerheks> read the whole post ..
[05:27] <Bustin> oerheks, no dice. So weird, never had issues about a month ago, same computer, same everything. The only thing that may have changed, is probably the nvidia driver?
[05:37] <EJUST> Quiet in here for being so full of users.
[05:38] <EJUST> thinking of getting ubuntu on my second computer, just wondering are there mouse or keyboard or monitor issues with a kdm?
[05:39] <EJUST> sorry i meant kvm
[07:50] <Northwoods> Hi i am getting mysql error while installing imagmagick
[07:50] <Northwoods> http://prntscr.com/x70t3r
[07:53] <Northwoods> My Baby Love
[08:35] <bobdobbs> Hi all. I've just upgraded to 20.04. I'm tweaking some packages to get them to run. One thing I'm missing is the "Save For Web" plugin for gimp. How do I install this 20.04?
[08:36] <bobdobbs> I've found a git repo for it. But the instructions for how to install it don't work: it gives generic instructions on how to use 'configure', but there's no configure script in the repo.
[08:37] <dbax> I used this guide https://www.snel.com/support/install-vnc-ubuntu-16-04/ to install vnc on my ubuntu server 16.04. when I create a session with root user and connect to server thro vncviewer it can see my normal gnome desktop but when I create a vnc session as a regular user I see only a gray screen after connecting with a vnc viewer. any advice?
[08:58] <karab44> hi guys
[08:59] <karab44> is there any env var for TEMP ?
[08:59] <karab44> printenv does not show any TMP TEMP TMPDIR or things like that
[09:17] <rory> karab44, "/tmp" is default, but you can override it by setting TEMP
[09:17] <rory> karab44, you can set it permanently https://serverfault.com/questions/72955/how-to-change-default-tmp-to-home-user-tmp
[09:23] <isomari> greetings, as root, even after using ssh-copy-id successfully, I still can't access without a password. What could be wrong?
[09:26] <geirha> Most likely the file permissions are wrong. I don't think ssh-copy-id checks or fixes those
[09:27] <geirha> isomari: on the target system, put the output of this in a pastebin:  ls -ld ~/ ~/.ssh/ ~/.ssh/authorized_keys*
[10:14] <cbreak_> have you checked the logs?
[10:14] <barnex> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1051022/every-app-in-my-xubuntu-18-04-deleted-by-tasksel-please-help I did this, any way to recover my OS?
[10:14] <barnex> as in I taskel removed, haven't rebooted still
[10:16] <barnex> for now my idea is to look through dpkg log and just install every removed package?
[10:17] <isomari> geirha: No disrepect intened but the authorized_keys file has no issues. Its only on 3 machines that root to root and root to user are not r=working passwordless. We have many machines all working properly. I was wondering if there is some config outside of the key files that might cause this.
[10:17] <isomari> geirha: user to user and user to root work fine.
[10:18] <isomari> root to everything else is not going.
[10:18] <karab44> rory thank you, my friend!
[10:18] <cbreak_> isomari: ssh -v
[10:21] <barnex> seems like all my ppa packages are also gone?
[10:21] <barnex> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Tw2FW7Wcb5/
[10:28] <barnex> oooh, thsi is bullshit, my OS got removed because of a bug known for 10 years https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tasksel/+bug/574287 :/
[10:36] <barnex> so I reinstalled every available package from my dpkg log, but now they are all marked as manually installed :/
[10:36] <barnex> and there's 2100 packages so yeah
[10:36] <barnex> I'm not going through all of them and deciding one by one which do I need
[10:41] <barnex> any ideas how to undo that and only have the packages i have manually installed marked as manually installed?
[10:41] <barnex> I'm gonna reboot and see if it even boots at all :/
[10:54] <barnex> aaaaaand some of the stuff kinda works but isn't really back, like I still have chromium browser, but update-alternatives says there's only one app providing x-www-browser and that's ff
[10:55] <barnex> aaaaaaaaaand my bluetooth dongle doesn't seem to work anymore
[10:55] <barnex> so happy with my OS rn
[10:55] <random_programme> Hi, I want to run a checkpointing command on a container after a certain amount of memory is used by that container. How can I check the amount of memory used by that container?
[11:36] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:58] <davor> hi, is there a repository where I can get fresh R 4.0 binaries on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS running on aarch64
[12:18] <Sbur3> Do I need  and can I get libdvdcss? I use Ubuntu 20.10
[12:19] <Ky0sh1r0> hi there: How do I identify the initiator for a reoccuring network brisge interface 'br-<some_hex_address>' with network address 172.17.0.1?
[12:19] <Ky0sh1r0> brisge -> bridge
[12:38] <Fily1212> hi
[12:39] <Fily1212> I think I need help for dual boot installation
[12:42] <rapier> hi everyone. When you make a new directory, why is its name placed inside quotation marks?
[12:45] <rapier> Why are names of the new created directories suddenly wrapping with in single quotes?
[12:46] <Fily121289> Sorry for my disconnection: i think I need help for dual boot installation
[12:50] <Fily121289> is there someone that can help me? :'(
[12:52] <sputnik369> Hey does anyone know how to get AMD Navi10 Pro driver support on Ubuntu20.04?
[12:53] <sputnik369> I really want to use Linux now instead of windows, but if i cant even load DavinciResolve with my Navi10 GPU then im dead in the water...
[12:53] <sputnik369> anyone know wjhat steps i can take to get this working?
[12:55] <cjoke> sputnik369: you can check out this site. https://linuxconfig.org/amd-radeon-ubuntu-20-04-driver-installation
[12:55] <Ky0sh1r0> sputnik369: did you try these: https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-amdgpu-unified-linux-20-45
[12:55] <sputnik369> thanks taking a look now
[12:57] <Ky0sh1r0> I have a rx560 with official amd drivers, and rocm also works (maybe not any more in future but atm)
[12:57] <sputnik369> @Ky0sh1r0 i downloaded the Linux drivers from AMD and tried to do the install which failes right at the end and then on numerous support forums i see others have the same issue and the only resolution i found was with one support listing where a guy had to downgrade his uname -r from x.x.x.56 to x.x.x.54 or something, but i am using x.x.x.58-generic and so i found this solution to far distanced from my case.
[12:58] <akem> Looks like NFS is locking up my filesystem.
[13:00] <sputnik369> @Ky0sh1r0 perhaps my understanding of the process is insufficient, since i was raised in a microsoft space. but this Rocm is a concept i dont think i understand, as well as the concept of some firmware installation that may/maynot be required for getting this all to work...
[13:00] <sputnik369> my understanding is i download the driver from AMD, extract it to a normal folder, open terminal from it and sudo amdgup-pro-install and from there i just assume it would be enough? but it fails
[13:01] <sputnik369> *amdgpu-pro-install*
[13:01] <sputnik369> i also tried a varient of the install command that uses some headless switch
[13:02] <sputnik369> also fails at the end
[13:04] <sputnik369> im using a RX5700 card, so to be fair it isnt even that new anymore the RX6800s are out now so i cant imagine the drivers should be a problem still for my older gen 5700 that im struggling with
[13:06] <Ky0sh1r0> sputnik369: I followed exaclty these steps: https://amdgpu-install.readthedocs.io/en/latest/install-installing.html#installing-the-pro-variant
[13:06] <Ky0sh1r0> short version: ./amdgpu-pro-install -y
[13:07] <sputnik369> yeah i started with that
[13:07] <sputnik369> :)
[13:07] <sputnik369> im just trying @cjoke's manual quick again now
[13:07] <Ky0sh1r0> rocm is just for machine learning purposes, so if you don't do that, you won't need it ;)
[13:08] <sputnik369> ok cool yeah i just need video card GPU to be detected on DavinciResolve
[13:08] <sputnik369> the default Ubuntu20.04 Radeon drivers dont work for the Application
[13:20] <wyre> why ubuntu preserves the /etc/init.d folder?
[13:20] <wyre> it uses systemd, right? so ... why this sysvinit folder?
[13:22] <ogra> wyre, https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/focal/en/man8/systemd-sysv-generator.8.html
[13:23] <ogra> so even old software that has never been ported to systemd can be supported ...
[13:30] <gst568923> Hi, why if I run on terminal: `xfce4-terminal --maximize --hold -e "sudo renice -n -20 -p $(pidof twinkle)"` works, but if I run same command inside a [Desktop Entry] not works!
[13:30] <gst568923> xfce4-terminal --maximize --hold -e "sudo renice -n -20 -p $(pidof twinkle)"
[13:32] <wyre> ogra, so cron is old software? there is some newer projects like cronie
[13:36] <ogra> wyre, systemd timers are supposed to eventuall replace cron i think
[13:36] <ogra> +y
[13:43] <iola> wyre: hello
[13:43] <wyre> iola, hi
[13:43] <iola> What version of ubuntu are you using or wondering about?
[13:43] <wyre> iola, 20.04
[13:44] <iola> Certain versions have cron utilities preinstalled, namely version BEFORE systemd-timers was implemented.
[13:45] <iola> Ubuntu's `cron` package is the debian package `cron` which is forked/patched version of Vixie Cron 3.0
[13:45] <ogra> well, it will surely still be a while til cron is completely gone from a default install
[13:46] <ogra> and once that happens i'd expect some transition to happen too (i.e. automatically turning cronjobs into systemd timers at release upgrade time)
[13:49] <wyre> ogra, iola, I see, so .. cron is still installed in a default install, right?
[13:49] <iola> That being said, the default installation installs cron 3.0p11-1236ubunt1 and anacron 2.3-29 for ubuntu 20.04
[13:49] <iola> Yes.
[13:49] <ogra> yeah
[13:50] <wyre> and it's a forked version of Vixie Cron 3.0
[13:50] <iola> Now, wyre... why were you asking about this is arch?
[13:50] <gst568923> ?
[13:50] <iola> Yes
[13:50] <ogra> and the earliest it would drop wuld be with 22.04
[13:50] <wyre> iola, I was comparing both cron implementations, cronie with cron implementation used in Ubuntu
[13:50] <iola> *Dropped from the default install, that is.
[13:50] <ogra> right
[13:51] <iola> Unless you are looking for _very_ specific tooling differences, they are essentially managed in the same manner.
[13:53] <wyre> iola, I know, but the point is that cronie does work with systemd, while cron implementation in Ubuntu uses https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/focal/en/man8/systemd-sysv-generator.8.html to generate its corresponding systemd units
[13:54] <ogra> well, thats only for starting the cron daemon
[13:54] <ogra> it wont translate cronjobs
[13:55] <ogra> cron itself will still work exactly the way it always did ... it will just be started by a generated systemd unit instesd of a sysv script
[13:56] <ogra> *instead
[14:03] <iola> ^++
[15:11] <tete_> my scanner (samsung c480w) does not work with simple scan. it is found as WSD device and it starts scanning but i get an error when it should save the scanned document
[15:12] <tete_> it says (in german, translated to english by myself): scanning failed. error with the communication with the scanner
[15:13] <tete_> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DK8qwdMFxD/
[15:25] <wawrek> Is it already possible to upgrade to ubuntu 21?
[15:25] <tete_> my default application for http/https links is chromium, but firefox opens when i click in thunderbird on any link
[15:27] <wawrek> I want to upgrade, because in 21, ubuntu will make the home folders private, inaccessible to unwanted users.
[15:27] <wawrek> anyway, is this rigth?
[15:29] <cbreak_> depending on what you understand under "private", you can already do that
[15:31] <macrow912> why not issue a chmod command now to do that
[15:31] <wawrek> a user folder under /home should be accessible only to that users, anyone else. If I create a second user, I can access the home folders of other users on the same machine.
[15:31] <wawrek> I would expect it to be protected by access rights deffault
[15:33] <wawrek> I would expect the home folder to be protected by deffault
[15:34] <wawrek> I mean only the owner, should be able to access it
[15:34] <frad> if I execute a command with sudo, my computer waits 20 seconds before I am prompted to write a password. What's wrong with my computer?
[15:36] <jayjo-> When I look at echo $DISPLAY, I get :1, when I suspected I'd get :0. Is there a way to inspect all available x servers running? I only seem to have the one process, is there something else at :0?
[15:37] <Your_Dog> wawrek: IIRC Ubuntu changed it in a way that other users can access (Read only) other user's home directory. This includes subfolders and files as well (Ofcourse as Read only)
[15:38] <Your_Dog> well by default that is
[15:39] <bdiddy> jayjo-: :1 isn't wrong..
[15:40] <wawrek> Your_Dog: I don't want other users to access my files by default. In this case, is it safe to play with chmod on the level of home folders?
[15:42] <Your_Dog> hmmh, this is indeed a tricky question, tricky because I'm assuming most distro-level applications will expect this behavior or has been modified in a way to take advantage of this behavior.
[15:42] <Your_Dog> Then again I don't think there are apps that really do that now.
[15:43] <wawrek> I guess, I have to be careful while changing access permissions on a home folder...
[15:43] <wawrek> I have heard that ubuntu 21 will change the implementation of home folders. Is that so?
[15:44] <Your_Dog> I don't think so but perhaps I am wrong
[15:46] <wawrek> I found this here: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/01/private-home-directory-in-ubuntu-21-04
[15:46] <wawrek> Maybe I am wrong
[15:49] <Your_Dog> well that would be certainly an interesting one, IIRC there where alot of people that hated that they changed how default permission works for home folder. I mean I think only Ubuntu (and majority of its derivatives) have this as their default permission.
[15:55] <wawrek> other Linux distros don't share the same permissions system for user's home folders?
[15:56] <wawrek> I thought it was implemented that way accross all of the linux ecosystem
[15:58] <pavlos> wawrek: usually home dirs are 755 but seems that with 21.04 they will be 750
[15:59] <frad> if I execute a command with sudo, my computer waits 20 seconds before I am prompted to write a password. is this normal?
[15:59] <frad> 20.10
[15:59] <agvantibo66> Yes
[16:00] <iola> wawrek: You have nothing to worry about.
[16:00] <cbreak_> wawrek: linux doesn't care about the permissions you set for your homedir
[16:00] <iola> wawrek: The rest of us linux users defaul to 700. 750 from 755 will cause you zero problems.
[16:00] <wawrek> thanks for the info
[16:00] <cbreak_> chmod -R o= ~
[16:00] <agvantibo66> This is because sudo is bloat. Get doas here: https://github.com/slicer69/doas
[16:00] <wawrek> can I use 700?
[16:01] <agvantibo66> Doas is just a faster sudo alternative
[16:01] <cbreak_> wawrek: why?
[16:01] <cbreak_> the primary group should be your own group
[16:01] <agvantibo66> Yep, so 7770
[16:01] <wawrek> I just thought I want it to be more restricive
[16:01] <cbreak_> it's not more restrictive
[16:01] <agvantibo66> Oh wait 770
[16:01] <iola> No not 770
[16:01] <iola> Stop with the rediculousness.
[16:01] <MLKVA51-> With this Linux... Are there a VPN that is free that has a GUI?
[16:02] <wawrek> iola: how do you mean?
[16:02] <iola> 750 will allows users assigned to YOUR group to be able to read and execute files in your home directory. But only users assigned to YOUR group.
[16:03] <iola> 700, and only YOU and root can see, enumerate, read, write, and execute files in your home direcory.
[16:03] <agvantibo66> @iola Ubuntu comes with gnome-control-center preinstalled, this is called "settings"
[16:03] <tomreyn> MLKVA51-: VPN is a protocol (or a collection of protocols really), you'll need a server and a client to use it. what you arer referring to is a hosted vpn, usually sold as a (software as a service). ubuntu only provides software, not services.
[16:03] <cbreak_> (the only user in your group is you)
[16:03] <iola> Changing from 755 -> 750 or even more restrictive 700 is perfectly fine.
[16:03] <wawrek> thanks
[16:03] <agvantibo66> @iola you can add ovpn files there
[16:03] <MLKVA51-> < looking for a BSD chan, that people are really talking in, other than waiting in line
[16:03] <wawrek> that's what I wanted to know
[16:03] <iola> It wont even effect gnome
[16:04] <wawrek> sounds good ;)
[16:04] <iola> And you should never put ovpn files anywhere other than /etc/openvpn/client
[16:04] <cbreak_> if you run the command I showed you, you'll make it restrictive
[16:04] <cbreak_> without all the octal nonsense
[16:04] <tomreyn> !alis | MLKVA51-
[16:04] <iola> agvantibo66: You are incredibly misinformed to standard practices for securing and safely operating a single user system.
[16:05] <iola> Now I remember why I never idle here anymore
[16:05]  * agvantibo66 winced
[16:05] <tomreyn> frad: that's unexpectedly long
[16:06] <pavlos> MLKVA51-: there is #freebsd, #openbsd
[16:06] <frad> tomreyn, so, any way to solve it?
[16:06] <tomreyn> frad: check your logs, i.e. run    journalctl -f     in a temrinal window, then run a sudo command in another, and post the output added to the journal to the ubuntu pastebin
[16:06] <tomreyn> (and share the link here)
[16:08] <pavlos> frad: do /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname have the same hostname?
[16:12] <tomreyn> frad: i have to leave for now, will be back later, but there are others here who can help when you provide actionable info, such as error messages from the logs.
[16:18]  * agvantibo66 Begs for +o
[16:19] <agvantibo66> Is uninstalling sudo and using doas a good idea on Ubuntu 20.04
[16:20] <agvantibo66> Huh?
[16:21]  * agvantibo66 Waits nervously
[16:21] <mefistofeles> agvantibo66: I'd guess many packages/apps depend on sudo
[16:23] <leftyfb> agvantibo66: no, it is not a good idea. Unless you are keen on modifying your distribution beyond what is supported here.
[16:23] <agvantibo66> mefistofeles Does apt prompt that this package is a dependency, or it just grinds everything silently?
[16:23] <leftyfb> agvantibo66: why do you feel the need to replace sudo?
[16:24] <agvantibo66> It's quite slow. Doas is faster. I already installed doas and aliased sudo to it, but I just don't want anything not needed laying around
[16:26] <leftyfb> agvantibo66: doas is not supported here. You would be on your own
[16:26] <agvantibo66> thanks leftyfb. I'll just leave it as is.
[16:27]  * agvantibo66 Waves to TheFu and recognizes him as an Ubuntu Forums moderator
[16:27] <cbreak_> if sudo is slow for you, you probably have other problems
[16:27] <cbreak_> since it is not slow in general
[16:27] <agvantibo66> Haha maybe
[16:29] <agvantibo66> When I use up 4gb of ram for VMs, and run pycharm, firefox, and zoom symultaneously (On 8 gb total), everything is quite slow
[16:29] <cbreak_> :/
[16:30] <cbreak_> just built a new system, 64 GB RAM... was surprisingly cheap
[16:30] <agvantibo66> I can't
[16:30] <cbreak_> only around 320 CHFr for DDR4-ECC DIMMs
[16:30] <cbreak_> (4x16)
[16:30] <agvantibo66> I am actually 14 yrs old. And live in Russia. Figures...
[16:31] <agvantibo66> So no ram upgrades
[16:31] <cbreak_> then maybe VMs might not be the optimal thing to run
[16:31] <agvantibo66> Yep
[16:32] <cbreak_> maybe something like lxc containers are cheaper, if they work for you
[16:32] <agvantibo66> But I need android x86 for games, like free among us
[16:33] <agvantibo66> I have thought changing the hypervisor from Virtualbox to something lighter, like QEMU, but i've never had the time
[16:34] <agvantibo66> I have tried the AQEMU GUI once, but didn't like it. And I just don't want to mess with one-page long qemu commands (If I don't use the GUI)
[16:36] <leftyfb> agvantibo66: among us is $4.99 USD on Steam on Ubuntu
[16:37] <agvantibo66> I'm a total cheapskate. If I can save a few bucks for the "inconvenience" of 5 minutes of vm lag a day, I'll save.
[16:42] <frad> pavlos, wow, no... different hostnames...
[16:43] <pavlos> frad: they should the same
[16:44] <agvant1b0> 'bit more leet, just a bit
[16:44] <frad> pavlos, so how comr hostnamectl doesn't change hostnames systemwide?
[16:46] <agvant1b0> frad try sudo nano /etc/hostname, see for yourself, change for yourself
[16:50] <pavlos> frad: sudo hostnamectl set-hostname newNameHere will change /etc/hostname but not /etc/hosts
[16:50] <frad> pavlos, exactly that I was thinking now
[16:50] <frad> so I need to change /etc/hosts
[16:52] <octav1a> I have four empty nvme disks that I would like to use as scratch for very fast writing (scientific program, don't care at all about redundancy). Do you think I would get better performance using LVM to make a JBOD, or mdadm to make a software raid0 ?
[16:52] <pavlos> frad: yes and restart to make sure all is well, then sudo should be immediate
[16:57] <frad> pavlos, we don't understand each other. I dont know ho to change /etc/hosts
[17:01] <pavlos> frad: cat /etc/hostname  what is your hostname?
[17:02] <pavlos> frad: then sudo edit /etc/hosts, 127.0.1.1 thesamename
[17:02] <pavlos> frad: use an editor you're familiar with (nano, vi, ...)
[17:02] <frad> pavlos, would it work with geany? I open /etc/hostname with geany and save it
[17:03] <pavlos> frad: sure
[17:03] <frad> but I need to do it as sudo pavlos ...
[17:03] <frad> correct?
[17:04] <pavlos> frad: yes since you're modifying /etc
[17:14] <mguy> octav1a: wouldn't take you long to run it both ways and measure speed.
[17:21] <cbreak> octav1a: zfs :)
[17:30] <anibic> I cannot install Ubuntu 20.04.1-desktop-amd64 . I do not get the screen to earse disk and encrypt it jumps to the screen where my HDD is not listed. However I can install Windows on the same 1TB seagate HDD.
[17:31] <coconut> I don't know whether anyone here read the conversation between me and Jeremy31 here yesterday about a non-bootable 20.04.1 after upgrading packages on a new install of the desktop iso?
[17:31] <coconut> I wanted to let you know that i could fix the broken boot on apt upgrade after a new install of 20.04.1, by doing the following:
[17:31] <coconut> Removing the package "linux-modules-nvidia-440-generic-hwe-20.04" first, then apt update && apt install --reinstall linux-generic, then reboot, then apt update && apt upgrade, then reboot again.
[17:31] <coconut> After this there is no 5.8 installed anymore, and 20.04.1 can just reboot again normally.
[17:31] <coconut> Probably a lot users here know how this works already, and don't need it, but i just wanted to let you know that it /does/ fix this problem. Thank Jeremy31 for the help. Bye!
[17:31] <coconut> :)
[17:32] <anibic> Never has any problem with Ubuntu so far
[17:32] <shinobi> I have multiple monitors that are in extended mode on 20.04. All is well until the system times out and goes to the lock screen. When I unlock the desktop the monitors act like they are in  "mirror" mode. Display settings still shows "extended" and I have to apply "mirror" mode and revert the change to bring them back. Anyone else experiencing this or have a fix?
[17:35] <anibic> Each time I boot I see ir checks the disk (bootable usb by rufus) all is good
[17:35] <anibic> Any solution ?
[17:36] <frad> pavlos, thanks, it worked
[17:36] <leftyfb> anibic: try looking in your BIOS and see if there's a RAID enabled. Or try toggling EFI
[17:36] <anibic> I have made it MBR not GPT.
[17:37] <anibic> I disble URFI in bios and CSM always and Boot legacy only
[17:40] <anibic> I have made the bootable usb by rufus as MBR and have CSM support=always, Storage Boot =Legacy only,
[17:40] <pavlos> frad: good
[17:42] <leftyfb> anibic: I would not use rufus. Try etcher.io
[17:45] <octav1a> cbreak: zfs on raid0 of jbod?
[17:45] <octav1a> is that non-journaled?
[17:45] <octav1a> or*
[17:59] <cbreak> octav1a: zfs on raw disks
[17:59] <cbreak> zfs has its own version of "journal"
[18:27] <c0fe> what am i screwing up with this command? cat <<EOF > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nginx.list\n deb https://nginx.org/packages/ubuntu/ focal nginx\n deb-src https://nginx.org/packages/ubuntu/ focal ngin\n EOF
[18:30] <c0fe> i am not familiar with the cat command
[18:33] <rifle> c0fe: what are you trying to accomplish?
[18:38] <cbreak> c0fe: you can just open that file in a text editor and add those lines yourself...
[18:38] <cbreak> you don't have to use shell IO redirection and here-files
[18:39] <rifle> or if lazy, use echo -e
[18:50] <pavlos> c0fe: you need sudo
[18:55] <c0fe> pavlos: i figured it out, with echo -e but i am running as root anyways
[18:56] <Mava42> ok, bizarre: my machine does not reply to ping. iptables: accept/accept/accept (ufw status: inactive). /proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_all is 0. and I can see icmp echo requests coming in tcpdump
[18:57] <Mava42> sed s/in tcpdump/via tcpdump/g
[18:59] <pavlos> Mava42: pls describe your network, is the machine local? is it over vpn?
[19:00] <Mava42> pavlos: local,
[19:01] <pavlos> Mava42: so machine could be 192.168.1.10 and you ping this ip from another local machine 192.168.1.20 and ping fails
[19:01] <Mava42> true, other way round it works nicely
[19:01] <Mava42> so from .1.20 to .1.10 works, 1.10 to 1.20 fails, both can ping .1.1
[19:03] <pavlos> Mava42: are both linux systems?
[19:03] <Mava42> both
[19:03] <Mava42> 1.10 deb and 1.20 ubuntu 20.04
[19:05] <pavlos> can you ssh deb and paste 'ip addr' and 'ip route'?
[19:05] <Mava42> no I wont, its meaningless
[19:06] <Mava42> this feels like a firewall or so problem in the Focal
[19:07] <genewitch> how do i tell if my ubuntu server issues are kernel related, my kern.log going back to december 27th are riddled with NMI, MCE, stalled CPU, etc errors. There's not really a reason this should be happening, the computer is clean, it runs stress tests, but when it starts handling guest VMs it starts freaking out
[19:08] <genewitch> it's running 4.4.0-200
[19:08] <Mava42> hmm, also it seems that if I open e.g. port 12345 using nc on the focal, I cannot connect to it. only seeing "TCP syn" flags in the tcpdump
[19:09] <sarnold> genewitch: MCE usually means hardware is failing
[19:10] <sarnold> genewitch: the rasdaemon package has a ras-mc-ctl command that might be able to tell you more about your MCEs
[19:16] <genewitch> BRB DC doing a reboot of this hyper
[19:17] <genewitch> sarnold: thank you
[19:23] <pavlos> Mava42: https://termbin.com/0xuw
[19:35] <gartt> Trying to figure out why my Lenovo P620 will boot from any FreeBSD .img burned to a flashdrive but not an ubuntu ISO... I'm using etcher to burn
[19:35] <gartt> And of course the box is set to boot USB flashdrives before the HDD
[19:36] <tomreyn> gartt: did you verify the checksum of the downloaded ubuntu install .iso against the website?
[19:37] <tomreyn> etcher is good for ensuring the iso you have properly lands on the installer media, but that's step #2, first you need to verify the download is in a good condition.
[19:38] <gartt> tomreyn: I verified that a macbook booted from the same ubuntu thumbdrive fine, so it shouldn't be an integrity issue
[19:40] <tomreyn> gartt: that's not a proper test, though
[19:42] <gartt> tomreyn: Agreed, but when downloading one of the ISOs such as https://ubuntu.com/download/server ubuntu server, it just prompts me to download, and there's no hashsum visible to match against
[19:43] <gartt> I retract that, sorry. Big fat button that says Verify
[19:49] <Tom01> Is somebody using Windows 10 here? Is there a window manager to get rid of the unspeakable start menu?
[19:49] <Tom01> o.k. wrong channel
[19:50] <compdoc> lol
[19:50] <compdoc> there is, but we dare not speak its name
[20:04] <gartt> tomreyn: Just downloaded the latest server ISO, and ubuntu-20.10-live-server-amd64.iso: OK  <-- verified fine
[20:36] <hansol> is good plesk for ubuntu ?
[20:41] <Industrial> Hi!
[20:42] <Industrial> When I install the NVIDIA driver 460 (latest) and reboot I get a black screen. I already disabled the nouveau driver, that isn't it. I have no Optimus. No 2 GFX cards, only one that is supported officially by the NVIDIA driver (from the nvidia website). It's a GTX 2070 SUPER mobile / Max-Q
[20:43] <Industrial> When I boot into livecd (usb stick) and chroot into my disk and remove all nvidia packages it is fixed again and I get my GUI back
[20:43] <Industrial> When I install version 390 then I get a 800x600 display and I dont know how to change that to native resolution.
[20:43] <Industrial> What now?
[20:44] <Industrial> I have tried most solutions but they end up telling you to reinstall the latest version of the nvidia drivers
[20:44] <Industrial> I can not get into a TTY with Ctrl + Alt + F1-F7
[20:44] <Industrial> So I can not check my log files to see why it is giving me a black screen
[20:45] <Industrial> I also do not own a monitor so I can't check if other displays work :( (a suggestion on askubuntu.com)
[20:45] <Industrial> I also tried the driver from the nvidia website but it told me to use the ubuntu one instead
[21:08] <Aavar_> How can I easily rename a file to include the creation date (not the modification date)?
[21:13] <sarnold> Aavar: are you sure that your filesystem supports recording the creation date? not all filesystems do
[21:14] <Aavar> sarnold: This is Ext4... i'm not sure. I figured out a way to not change the date after unpacking the file, so now it's the same date :)
[21:15] <sarnold> woot
[21:15] <Aavar> (Actually, that was on NTFS before the upload. Anyway, Problem solved ;))
[21:17] <sarnold> Aavar: stat(1) emits "Birth: -" for my systems.. depending upon how many of these things you need to do, a bit of awk / grep / sh / kind of stuff around stat might work okay. but if you've got hundreds or thousands, it'd probably be better to write a tool in python or rust or go or something
[21:36] <bray90820> Anyone know of a launcher where I can run bash scripts from the menubar
[21:37] <janisozaur> hi, how do install debug symbols for libsdl2?
[21:41] <coconut> wow... ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ## wants to remove "libnvidia-compute-450 mesa-vulkan-drivers ubuntu-mate-core ubuntu-mate-desktop xorg".
[21:42] <sarnold> janisozaur: hopefully these has something useful https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Debug%20Symbol%20Packages
[21:42] <coconut> which probably is a mess by me removing "linux-modules-nvidia-440-generic-hwe-20.04". Which i did to fix a boot issue...
[21:44] <coconut> i don't want to install the 5.8 kernel on 20.04.1... anything i can do to fix this?
[21:46] <coconut> seems i can install 5.8 and configure grub to boot the 5.4 version
[21:47] <sarnold> coconut: try this: sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-hwe-20.04- linux-generic
[21:47] <coconut> i do think someone needs to fix the repo though if you ask me
[21:48] <sarnold> it was an intentional choice to upgrade to 5.8 kernels, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseNotes#Ubuntu_Desktop
[21:48] <coconut> sarnold, yeah but with that the 5.8 kernel gets installed right? Well if i do that and boot it too, my system does not boot....
[21:49] <sarnold> coconut: note the - at the end of linux-generic-hwe-20.04-
[21:53] <coconut> sarnold, yeah but that edge version does not work with my laptop
[21:54] <sarnold> coconut: note that when you use apt install foo-    apt will *uninstall* foo.
[21:55] <coconut> sarnold, yeah but i do not have that kernel installed
[21:55] <coconut> and linux-generic already is
[21:55] <sarnold> coconut: oh. I thought it was installing that kernel that broke you :)
[21:59] <coconut> sarnold, it did... and so i fixed that by a reinstall and removed linux-generic-hwe-20.04 before apt update && apt upgrade.
[21:59] <coconut> but now ubuntu-drivers does not like to do its stuff
[22:01] <jeremy31>  It means that from 20.04.2 release Ubuntu Desktop will gain new major kernel versions every 6 months through to summer of 2022.
[22:01] <jeremy31> A bit confusing since it mentions the second point release and it hasn't been released yet
[22:03] <sarnold> yeah
[22:05] <coconut> jeremy31, so if install that kernel and configure grub to boot the 5.4 it will fix itself?
[22:07] <jeremy31> coconut: What is wrong with the driver manager?
[22:08] <coconut> jeremy31, it installs essential packages
[22:08] <coconut> libnvidia-compute-450 mesa-vulkan-drivers ubuntu-mate-core ubuntu-mate-desktop xorg
[22:08] <coconut> *uninstalls
[22:10] <jeremy31> coconut: You might be able to reinstall that nvidia hwe package and see what happens.  I did a dependency check and it only depends on itself
[22:11] <coconut> jeremy31, ok will do that tomorrow, my bed calls now
[22:11] <coconut> thanks jeremy31
[22:16] <gartt> Put both ubuntu-20.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso and ubuntu-20.04.1-live-server-amd64.iso on usb thumbdrives, and nothing - didn't read at boot and booted to HDD. ubuntu-20.10-live-server-amd64.iso did boot from usb thumbdrive, but I got a TPM interrupt not working, polling instead error. Brand new Lenovo P620
[22:17] <gartt> Debian wouldn't boot either. FBSD installed perfectly, but hardware support sucked for my ethernet card
[22:24] <tomreyn> gartt: sounds like a hardware / more likely firmware problem. how did you "put [those isos] on usb thunbdrives", though? and diy ou verify the checksums for thos eimages as well (you only discussed 20.10 server in terms of ISO checksum verification so far).
[22:25] <tomreyn> also, is the firmware of this computer up to date?
[22:25] <tomreyn> and you should be able to disable TPM in the mainboard firmware setup menu (UEFI/legacy BIOS setup menu)
[22:26] <sarnold> hmm, re the 20.04 releases, I wonder if that processor supports an OS that old
[22:26] <sarnold> there's a consistent murmur of amd chips with problems booting OSes unless they're brand-spanking-new, I've never understood why exactly
[22:26] <gartt> tomreyn: I tried Ubuntu's Startup Disk Creator, Etcher, and dd, and the 3 gave identical results; what worked on one will work using all methods, and what didn't work on any of them didn't work on any others, so at lesat that was consistent
[22:26] <sarnold> it feels like the sort of thing that'd kill a processor in the marketplace
[22:27] <gartt> sarnold: This is a Threadripper Pro, so it's a pretty new chip
[22:27] <sarnold> yeah
[22:27] <gartt> However, FBSD usually utterly sucks at hardware, and it installed fine, except for the ethernet card
[22:27] <tomreyn> 20.04.1 has a *somewhat* recent kernel, i think
[22:28] <gartt> tomreyn: 20.04 was ignored and didn't boot while ubuntu-20.10 did but gave me the TPM error
[22:28] <tomreyn> gartt: okay, this explains how you wrote the iso's to the installer media. it doesn'T explain whether you checked checksums.
[22:28] <tomreyn> so try 20.10 again, but disable tpm
[22:31] <gartt> tomreyn: I checked checksums and they were fine
[22:32] <tomreyn> ok!
[22:35] <gartt> So I'm stumped
[22:35] <tomreyn> https://download.lenovo.com/pccbbs/thinkcentre_pdf/ts_p620_ubuntu_linux_20.04_installation_v1.0.pdf
[22:37] <tomreyn> ^ first hit on a web search for "Ubuntu Lenovo P620"
[22:37] <gartt> tomreyn: Thanks a lot. I'd disabled secure boot earlier, but Power on the system and press the function F12key when the Lenovo splash screen appears
[22:37] <gartt> I'll give that a shot
[22:56] <MartinG> Hi all Newb here so apologies in advance if I ask a dull question
[22:57] <MartinG> I'm having issues getting an icmp echo reply from my Ubuntu VM
[22:57] <MartinG> Anyone come across this?
[22:59] <sarnold> MartinG: how did you set up the networking?
[22:59] <sarnold> MartinG: some of the networking modes only transmit tcp, not icmp; can you do tcp things with it?
[22:59] <tomreyn> gartt: https://certification.ubuntu.com/hardware/202006-28010
[22:59] <MartinG> Its an Ubuntu v20 VM that im using in a GNS3 lab environment so it just has a basic ipconfig
[23:00] <xcfe_100> anyone know of a way to set a custom keybinding? I want to map my Ctrl+e key so that it send the End key when pressed. Is this possible?
[23:00] <MartinG> I can ping a directly connected interface but nothing else
[23:00] <tomreyn> !yy.mm | MartinG
[23:01] <MartinG> 20.04.1 LTS
[23:03] <MartinG> Ok sorry wrong room
[23:03] <MartinG> Actually no its not :)
[23:04] <MartinG> So I have run a tcpdump session and I can see reemote ping requests coming into the VM
[23:04] <MartinG> but no replys leaving
[23:04] <tomreyn> MartinG: so, by default, an Ubuntu 20.04 LTS installation would respond to ICMP Echo Requests
[23:05] <tomreyn> So either your Ubuntu installation isn't a default one (custom image / installer), you or someone or somethjing has since modified the installations' configuration, or, maybe most likely, something in this lab network doesn't pass through those packets.
[23:06] <MartinG> Its odd behaviour but thanks anyway
[23:06] <MartinG> The ICMP request is traversing the nodes to get to the Ubuntu Client because I can see them
[23:06] <MartinG> sudo tcpdump -i ens39 -qtln icmp
[23:07] <MartinG> IP 10.10.10.3 > 172.16.160.129: ICMP echo request, id 49155, seq 1, length 64
[23:07] <MartinG> IP 10.10.10.3 > 172.16.160.129: ICMP echo request, id 49155, seq 2, length 64
[23:07] <MartinG> And that node is 2 hops away
[23:10] <gartt> tomreyn: Thanks again
[23:47] <shinobi> my 20.04 system likes to drop my wifi after a period of time. Doesn't happen when I boot to windows. Anyone have an idea on how to troubleshoot?
[23:47] <jeremy31> shinobi: Check in terminal to see if power management is enabled>  iwconfig
[23:49] <shinobi> jeremy31: yes power management is on
[23:50] <jeremy31> shinobi: in terminal>  sudo sed -i 's/wifi.powersave = 3/wifi.powersave = 2/' /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/default-wifi-powersave-on.conf && systemctl restart network-manager.service
[23:50] <jeremy31> shinobi: that will disconnect you for a second or 2
[23:51] <shinobi> let's test it out
[23:54] <shinobi> jeremy31: Done. Should be easy to test, I shouldn't see reconnection attempts with my irc client
[23:55] <shinobi> Thanks!!
[23:55] <jeremy31> shinobi: check iwconfig again
[23:55] <shinobi> jeremy31: It shows off
[23:55] <jeremy31> shinobi: good
[23:58] <shinobi> I have multiple monitors that are in extended mode on 20.04. All is well until the system times out and goes to the lock screen. When I unlock the desktop the monitors act like they are in  "mirror" mode. Display settings still shows "extended" and I have to apply "mirror" mode and revert the change to bring them back. Anyone else experiencing this or have a fix?