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ubptgbot<MK_Trading> UBports Installer download is not working, are there other locations to download? Thanks09:46
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ubptgbot<ulan bater> can ubuntu touch be installed on iphone6 ?09:54
ubptgbot<Flohack> @ulan bater [can ubuntu touch be installed on iphone6 ?], No09:54
ubptgbot<Bundyo> 😂09:54
ubptgbot<Flohack> Nothing can be installed on an iphone except iOS (except strange experiments with Linux, but they may damage your phone and are in general not ready for daily use)09:55
ubptgbot<ulan bater> i saw vid installing ubuntu 20 on iphone 709:56
ubptgbot<Flohack> @ulan bater [i saw vid installing ubuntu 20 on iphone 7], With cell radio, telephony, internet and camera? I dont think so ^^09:56
ubptgbot<ulan bater> use as server, no phone anymore09:56
ubptgbot<Flohack> Well then follow this video. Ubuntu Touch is a user OS its made to be your daily friend. Not a boring server ^^09:57
ubptgbotflash713 was added by: flash71310:10
ubptgbot<By brian All rights reserved> I have a redmi note 7 with ubports does anyone now how to change the font sizes as they are really small10:48
ubptgbot<Danfro> @By brian All rights reserved [I have a redmi note 7 with ubports does anyone now how to change the font sizes …], On all devices should work changing the scaling with UT Tweak Tool. But that is overall scaling. I don't think there is another way.10:50
ubptgbot<By brian All rights reserved> Is that in the store10:50
ubptgbot<By brian All rights reserved> Browser can be changed in the settings it’s just message and notifications are really really small10:51
ubptgbot<Danfro> @By brian All rights reserved [Is that in the store], Yes, you can find that in OpenStore.10:52
ubptgbot<By brian All rights reserved> Thanks 🙏10:52
ubptgbot<Danfro> Text size is very individual. Some make it smaller to fit more icons on the screen. 😉10:53
ubptgbot<Danfro> Have fun.10:53
ubptgbot<By brian All rights reserved> Yeah it’s individual preference isn’t it10:54
ubptgbot<By brian All rights reserved> This os has a lot of potential shame they don’t have the funds to progress quicker10:54
ubptgbot<By brian All rights reserved> Does the redmi note 7 have convergence10:55
ubptgbot<matv1> @By brian All rights reserved [This os has a lot of potential shame they don’t have the funds to progress quick …], If everyone in here would contribute 10 euro a year, thats one extra fulltime dev right there11:03
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Thomas Greene [Ok my device is a galaxy S8 plus, suppose I'll just spend more time learning abo …], fwiw the galaxy s8 is not ported yet, porting is one way to learn about the os too ;311:56
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @matv1 [If everyone in here would contribute 10 euro a year, thats one extra fulltime de …], lol that's one way to put it11:58
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> also one way to rub it in for some us :p11:59
foz006does anybody know if you can get ub touch on an s20 ultra ???11:59
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> (i don't earn that much per year)12:00
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> foz006: please check our full list of supported devices at devices.ubuntu-touch.io12:00
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> if your willing to make it supported the docs are at docs.ubports.com/porting12:01
foz006yeah its not on there, just wondered if anyone had tried12:01
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> every device need a specific image its all explained … at docs.ubports.com/porting12:02
foz006ok il check it out, total beginner on linux. only switvched from windows a couple of weeks ago lol12:03
foz006just got a mi a2 and it took me about 5 days to work out how to get ub touch on it12:04
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> ah i see, well if you are on irc i'm sure you'll be fine :p12:05
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> it does take time to port tho, most take up to an year so it'll be a good learning experience ;312:06
foz006im using this through the thunderbird app on my laptop fine, but on my ubuntu touch mobile device, iv installed the 'chats' app and i cant connect to #ubports on there12:06
foz006just get a circle spinning around12:06
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> ohw?12:07
foz006il get there12:07
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> chats or chatter?12:07
ubptgbot<matv1> @Fuseteam [also one way to rub it in for some us :p], well some people add their time instead :) that's at least as good. I myself, I just pay up to dim my guilt :D12:07
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> yeah you'll get there, we all had to start somewhere12:08
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @matv1 [well some people add their time instead :) that's at least as good. I myself, I …], ha! well i also referred to the amount 30k per year is a lot compared to some salaries (like mine lol)12:09
foz006chatter sorry12:09
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> ah wonder why it isn't connecting12:09
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> it should work12:10
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> any logs?12:10
foz006no, no logs12:11
foz006i need to fly anyway i have to try it again soon.... thanks for your time and help mate12:12
foz006Think iv done it,,, I'm on my phone now not my laptop12:25
foz006Can you see this ?12:25
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> yes i can12:59
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> cool12:59
ubptgbot<By brian All rights reserved> Working great on redmi note 713:10
ubptgbotAngle brr was added by: Angle brr13:51
ubptgbot<qtrit> I need tutotial for put OTA-15 in Redmi Note 7 ...13:52
ubptgbotdavid was added by: david14:13
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @qtrit [I need tutotial for put OTA-15 in Redmi Note 7 ...], are you using gsi or something?14:41
ubptgbot<qtrit> GSI14:41
ubptgbot<dohbee> install with ubports-installer instead, assuming it is possible14:42
ubptgbot<dohbee> GSI ports are not officially supported. there is no OTA for them14:42
ubptgbot<NotKit> Redmi Note 7 is supported in installer, yes14:43
ubptgbot<NotKit> [Edit] Redmi Note 7 (lavender) is supported in installer, yes14:43
foz006Iv figured out to rearrange apps into the dock, i just need to figure data settings or apn settings. Cant get data to work I only get wife. Well my BY sim14:44
foz006BY sim gets data untill I turn device off and on and then its gone.14:45
foz006BT sim*14:46
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> hmm odd, which device are you using again?14:46
foz006Xaoimi mi a214:46
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> ah might be a device specific bug14:47
foz006Lycamobile no data at all, BT works till I have to turn off device14:47
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> or operator specific hard to test 🤔14:47
foz006What apn setings do I use for manual setup, android ?14:47
foz006Yeah ur prob right14:48
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> apn settings are deffo operator specific14:49
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> but yes it should be the same apn settings as you have on android14:49
ubptgbot<joeth> @foz006 [Lycamobile no data at all, BT works till I have to turn off device], I think A2 port might still have bluetooth issued14:53
ubptgbot<joeth> @foz006 [Lycamobile no data at all, BT works till I have to turn off device], @ItsMeShouko14:53
ubptgbot<joeth> @foz006 [Lycamobile no data at all, BT works till I have to turn off device], [Edit] I think A2 port might still have bluetooth issues14:54
ubptgbotGolden Monk was added by: Golden Monk14:58
ubptgbot<Golden Monk> Hi guys, Is lavender (redmi note 7) ready to be used as a daily driver?14:58
ubptgbotMK_Trading was added by: MK_Trading15:19
ubptgbot<MK_Trading> Can someone send me the installer for macos, website down load is not working for me15:20
ubptgbot<ItsMeShouko> @foz006 [Lycamobile no data at all, BT works till I have to turn off device], @foz006 use devel channel15:40
ubptgbot<ItsMeShouko> @joeth [I think A2 port might still have bluetooth issues], not really15:49
ubptgbot<ItsMeShouko> we have an opposite issue15:49
ubptgbot<ItsMeShouko> bluetooth turns on with every boot lel15:49
ubptgbot<Flohack> @ItsMeShouko [bluetooth turns on with every boot lel], Can you turn it off? In my.new port it will turn on back even during the session ;)15:54
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ubptgbot<By brian All rights reserved> @Golden Monk [Hi guys, Is lavender (redmi note 7) ready to be used as a daily driver?], Yes I’m using it now16:21
ubptgbot<By brian All rights reserved> Only issue I’m having is no data txts and calls working16:21
ubptgbot<ItsMeShouko> @Flohack [Can you turn it off? In my.new port it will turn on back even during the session …], manually, yes16:29
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @joeth [I think A2 port might still have bluetooth issues], i don't think BT there refers to bluetooth17:24
ubptgbot<GaryRozar> https://brandnewtube.com/watch/the-great-game-a-family-civil-war-trump-biden-kissinger_xtMVqZvG3U7zsV1.html18:00
ubptgbotRobert was added by: Robert18:43
ubptgbot<ItsMeShouko> @Flohack [Can you turn it off? In my.new port it will turn on back even during the session …], That's exactly what happens for me too18:58
ubptgbot<Robert> Hello everyone! I have a Best buy credit and want to use it for a Ubuntu phone. Form looking at the list, looks like the best one I am seeing is the pixel 3a (xl). If best buy sold a nexus 5 I would get that. But I have to use the credit and I want a Ubuntu phone. Any other recommendations?19:00
ubptgbot<dohbee> i don't think best buy sells any phones which are usable with Ubuntu Touch, currently19:03
ubptgbot<NotKit> there seems to be Pixel 3A19:04
ubptgbot<NotKit> [Edit] there seems to be Pixel 3A as mentioned19:04
ubptgbot<dohbee> huh19:05
ubptgbot<fredldotme> I'd be happy if you said yes to the 3a, but there are reported issues on US carriers. No one currently seems to be able to fix that.19:05
ubptgbot<dohbee> i guess they only have refurbs online or such19:05
ubptgbot<Robert> @fredldotme [I'd be happy if you said yes to the 3a, but there are reported issues on US carr …], That's what I am worried about.....seems they hit a wall with it and no fix in sight......19:09
ubptgbot<Robert> @dohbee [i guess they only have refurbs online or such], yeah 3a and 3a XL19:09
ubptgbot<fredldotme> Which carrier would you use it on?19:10
ubptgbot<Robert> @dohbee [i don't think best buy sells any phones which are usable with Ubuntu Touch, curr …], 3a is for sale on the best buy site19:10
ubptgbot<Robert> @fredldotme [Which carrier would you use it on?], T-mobile19:10
ubptgbot<fredldotme> @Robert [T-mobile], Ok, because issues have been reported with both AT&T and Verizon. Not that I want to pressure you into buying it anyway, but I can't tell for sure if it's going to work.19:11
ubptgbot<Robert> OK.......found a nexus on ebay for $63........save the best buy money for something else......kind of wanted a better spec. USB-C and the use of an SD card would be awesome. But nexus 5 seems to be the best supported.19:14
ubptgbot<dohbee> pixel doesn't have displayport nor sd card afaik19:15
ubptgbot<fredldotme> right19:15
ubptgbot<dohbee> nexus5 has slimport though; but google stopped doing video on usb with the pixel devices :-/19:16
ubptgbot<Robert> @dohbee [pixel doesn't have displayport nor sd card afaik], Yeah.....sucks19:16
ubptgbot<Robert> @dohbee [nexus5 has slimport though; but google stopped doing video on usb with the pixel …], Hmmm how are they using convergence?19:17
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Robert [Hmmm how are they using convergence?], what do you mean? "convergence" isn't just about external video on phones19:18
ubptgbot<Robert> @dohbee [what do you mean? "convergence" isn't just about external video on phones], Ok I need to read some more. Sorry.19:19
ubptgbot<Robert> Thanks for the help everyone. Enjoyed chatting! 😊19:20
ubptgbotflrsdaniel was added by: flrsdaniel19:25
ubptgbot<flrsdaniel> Hola...19:26
ubptgbot<mimecar> @da19:32
ubptgbot<mimecar> @flrsdaniel , en español => https://t.me/UBPorts_ES19:33
ubptgbot<flrsdaniel> @mimecar [@flrsdaniel , en español => https://t.me/UBPorts_ES], thanks!!19:33
ubptgbot<By brian All rights reserved> @Robert [OK.......found a nexus on ebay for $63........save the best buy money for someth …], If you want usb c get the redmi note 7 I'm using one working great19:41
ubptgbot<dohbee> @By brian All rights reserved [If you want usb c get the redmi note 7 I'm using one working great], not something you find in the US really :)19:41
ubptgbot<By brian All rights reserved> Eba has them19:42
ubptgbot<By brian All rights reserved> Ebay19:42
ubptgbot<Robert> @By brian All rights reserved [If you want usb c get the redmi note 7 I'm using one working great], texts, calls, email, and pictures?19:42
ubptgbot<By brian All rights reserved> Yeah working fine19:42
ubptgbot<Robert> MMS texts?19:42
ubptgbot<dohbee> @By brian All rights reserved [Eba has them], they are not US market phones, so even if you buy one on ebay or ali or wherever, it can take a month or more to get to you, and doesn't necessarily work fully on US carriers19:43
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Robert [MMS texts?], MMS has issues in general on UT unfortunately19:43
ubptgbot<By brian All rights reserved> Bootloader was a little fiddly to do19:43
ubptgbot<Robert> @dohbee [they are not US market phones, so even if you buy one on ebay or ali or wherever …], Ok Thanks19:43
ubptgbot<By brian All rights reserved> Yeah texts fine pictures good19:43
ubptgbot<By brian All rights reserved> Does pixel 3a still have sms issues19:44
ubptgbot<By brian All rights reserved> Uk19:44
ubptgbot<joeth> @Fuseteam [i don't think BT there refers to bluetooth], oh right, british telecom. I don't think I've ever run into anyone on BT mobile lol19:46
ubptgbot<Ben Pittman> I have a pixel 3a and am able to send and receive texts OK on puretalk in us.19:48
ubptgbot<By brian All rights reserved> How is ubports on pixel 3a any issues19:49
ubptgbot<Robert> My main needs are text (sms and mms) email for work, pictures, phone calls, use of Signal and Telagram, (MeWe would be nice) and send PDF files with email. (could use my laptop but would be fun to use the phone) I use the T-moble network in USA, China, Germany, Hon Kong, Bahrain, New Deli, Belgium.....you get the point. I travel for work a19:53
ubptgbotnd can see all these places in a month.19:53
ubptgbot<Robert> Will get the cosmo communicator in a few months Just need something else for now.19:55
ubptgbot<By brian All rights reserved> @Ben Pittman [I have a pixel 3a and am able to send and receive texts OK on puretalk in us.], Does the 3a do convergence let.me know thanks20:01
ubptgbot<dohbee> @By brian All rights reserved [Does the 3a do convergence let.me know thanks], what do you mean by convergence?20:01
ubptgbot<By brian All rights reserved> Plug usb into it to TV20:01
ubptgbot<By brian All rights reserved> For desktop experience20:02
ubptgbot<By brian All rights reserved> Like nexus 520:02
ubptgbotJason was added by: Jason20:15
ubptgbot<Gud_kom_fra_vest> I sold my Nexus 4 yesterday and bought a Nexus 5. When I connect it to the monitor, the screen mouse appears but does not work, and the system does not go into desktop mode by itself. The branch rc and stable, who knows what the problem is?20:15
ubptgbot<dohbee> @By brian All rights reserved [Plug usb into it to TV], external display != convergence, and no as already said, google pixel devices do not have video on usb support20:15
ubptgbot<Jason> Does the oneplus one have external display support?20:17
ubptgbot<dohbee> not through usb no20:18
ubptgbot<Jason> That would be a nice feature to have20:19
ubptgbot<dohbee> some devices can do wireless display20:19
ubptgbot<dohbee> it's not great for interactive us though20:19
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Jason [That would be a nice feature to have], it is not something that can be done through software. slimport/mhl is something that the hardware must support20:20
ubptgbot<Jason> @dohbee [it is not something that can be done through software. slimport/mhl is something …], Yeah I know I am saying its a nice thing to have in general20:20
ubptgbot<Jason> I know my pinephone can connect to s monitor but its different then the Ubuntu touch experience20:21
ubptgbot<Jason> [Edit] I know my pinephone can connect to a monitor but its different then the Ubuntu touch experience20:21
ubptgbot<dohbee> sure, and i am saying that so that other people don't see your message and think it is possible for us to magically make it work, and start demanding we do :)20:21
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Jason [I know my pinephone can connect to a monitor but its different then the Ubuntu t …], external display support will work on UT on pinephone once the remaining lower level issues blocking that are fixed. like upgrading the kernel20:22
ubptgbot<Jason> @dohbee [external display support will work on UT on pinephone once the remaining lower l …], I don't use Ubuntu touch on my pinephone though I think Lomri with Manajro would be better then Ubuntu touch20:25
ubptgbot<Jason> And I think manjaro has video output working20:25
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @joeth [oh right, british telecom. I don't think I've ever run into anyone on BT mobile …], lol understandable yeah20:25
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Jason [I know my pinephone can connect to a monitor but its different then the Ubuntu t …], its........different?20:26
ubptgbot<Robert> @dohbee [sure, and i am saying that so that other people don't see your message and think …], I think I understand a little better. UT on an android phone is just using the android kernel. So that limits some stuff. The pinephone uses a main line Linux kernel and is a different experience do to that alone.20:27
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Jason [And I think manjaro has video output working], that's probably an kernel issue20:27
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> dalton was working on that20:27
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Robert [I think I understand a little better. UT on an android phone is just using the a …], yes ut on android hardware uses the android kernel20:28
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Robert [I think I understand a little better. UT on an android phone is just using the a …], well, the video over usb isn't a kernel issue generally. it is a hardware issue. pinephone has hardware to do displayport alt mode on usb-c; pixel phones do not20:28
ubptgbot<Jason> @Fuseteam [its........different?], Convergence on phosh is different then convergence on Ubuntu touch20:28
ubptgbot<Jason> Or even lomri20:29
ubptgbot<dohbee> other android phones (like samsung galaxy s9, htc 10, etc…) do20:29
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> ah right trur20:29
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Jason [Convergence on phosh is different then convergence on Ubuntu touch], ah right true20:29
ubptgbot<dohbee> but yes, making it work on either one, can be different issues20:29
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @dohbee [external display != convergence, and no as already said, google pixel devices do …], "video on usb" now that's a good name for it xD20:30
ubptgbot<Robert> https://youtu.be/I4oHLSJDN9w20:30
ubptgbot<Robert> For us noobs20:30
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> much easier to say "wired external display"20:30
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> [Edit] much easier to say than "wired external display"20:30
ubptgbot<dohbee> well, bq m10 just has mini-HDMI, so not even over USB, so yeah wired external display20:30
ubptgbot<dohbee> but really wireless external display is also not "convergence"20:31
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> haha true20:31
ubptgbot<Jason> Convergence on Ubuntu touch is more like a desktop experience20:32
ubptgbot<Jason> Then a phone experience on a phone20:32
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> but generally people do mean video on usb20:32
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Jason [Convergence on Ubuntu touch is more like a desktop experience], uh no exactly20:32
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Jason [Convergence on Ubuntu touch is more like a desktop experience], [Edit] uh no not exactly20:32
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Jason [Convergence on Ubuntu touch is more like a desktop experience], no. convergence means apps, and the shell, are built and designed to work across multiple display types with multiple interaction models, and switch smoothly between them20:33
ubptgbot<dohbee> it doesn't mean 100% legacy linux distro experience when you plug in an external display20:33
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Jason [Convergence on Ubuntu touch is more like a desktop experience], [Edit] uh no, not exactly20:33
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> this is why it works much better on ubuntu touch, the applications are made to be convergent20:34
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> [Edit] this is why it works much better on ubuntu touch, the applications are made to be 'convergent'20:34
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> not just "responsive" or available for external display use20:34
ubptgbot<Jason> Yeah that is true. Though it is more like a desktop experience then posh is with external display20:35
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> because it was made to work with different sizes and interaction models in mind20:36
ubptgbot<Jason> libhandy applications do work well on convergence mode20:37
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> tis also why i'm salty with the relation with purism wasn't more collaborative20:37
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Jason [libhandy applications do work well on convergence mode], i dunno i find morph works better than firefox with libhandy20:38
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Jason [libhandy applications do work well on convergence mode], [Edit] i dunno from what i've seen i find morph works better than firefox with libhandy20:38
ubptgbot<Jason> Firefox does not use libhandy20:39
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Fuseteam [tis also why i'm salty with the relation with purism wasn't more collaborative], 🤷‍♀️ from my interactions with them in the beginning of librem5 stuff, it seemed fairly clear in retrospect, it was going to turn out this way20:39
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> which is really a bummer now all the big tech yt channels picked up the librem 5 and are like "yeah like you'd expect from linux, very buggy"20:42
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> [Edit] which is really a bummer now all the big tech yt channels picked up the librem 5 and are like "yeah like you'd expect from linux, very buggy and not really ready"20:43
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Jason [Firefox does not use libhandy], eh? i thought it did to work on mobile linux20:43
ubptgbot<dohbee> i don't think firefox is using gtk+, at least not in that way20:44
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> ah right that's true too hmm20:46
ubptgbotpaterero_1985 was added by: paterero_198520:52
ubptgbot<NotKit> @Fuseteam [eh? i thought it did to work on mobile linux], projects like Mobian use desktop Firefox but tweak it a bit21:27
ubptgbot<By brian All rights reserved> Nexus 5 has display out21:28
ubptgbot<NotKit> https://gitlab.com/postmarketOS/mobile-config-firefox21:29
ubptgbot<By brian All rights reserved> Any idea of we can run Firefox esr21:38
ubptgbotJohn Doe was added by: John Doe22:08
ubptgbot<thecavedweller> I want to run jamesdsp audio mod XD22:10
ubptgbot<thecavedweller> I'll try as soon as I get my Vollaphone, I can only keep some faith on it working eventually22:11
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @NotKit [https://gitlab.com/postmarketOS/mobile-config-firefox], huh interesting22:36
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @By brian All rights reserved [Any idea of we can run Firefox esr], we can, but someone has to package it for ubuntu touch22:36
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @thecavedweller [I want to run jamesdsp audio mod XD], what's that?22:36
ubptgbot<thecavedweller> @Fuseteam [what's that?], An android dsp, installable on linux as a gstreamer plugin23:31
ubptgbot<thecavedweller> Can make wonders on music23:31
ubptgbot<thecavedweller> I normally use it on my pc23:32
ubptgbotBrad_S was added by: Brad_S23:38

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