[02:29] <xu-dana> Just an observation of xubuntu.org - There is no link to xubuntu Documentation in the site menu.
[02:33] <xu-dana> Mainly I just wanted to know a bit more about installing a minimal xubuntu from ubuntu server, using "sudo apt install",   is "xubuntu-core" still a valid option for 20.10?  I just want the basics
[02:38] <Bashing-om> xu-dana: Yes still valid >> roovy (20.10) (metapackages): Xubuntu core system [universe] .233: amd64 arm64 armhf ppc64el s390x. See to ' apt show xubuntu-core ' from terminal.
[12:26] <aradesh> hi all. i'm having some issues booting up my operating system... wonder if anyone could help me debug what's going on
[12:26] <aradesh> for a while i was able to get xubuntu to load in recovery mode, but now i just get as far as a blinking _
[12:27] <aradesh> though i can access the other tty's
[12:32] <diogenes_> aradesh, and where is the plot?
[12:33] <aradesh> what's that?
[12:34] <diogenes_> aradesh, you told us the final result but how did you get there to end up with blinking cursor? (usually something like: i installed some PPAs, i installed some drivers, i removed something, i upgraded etc.)
[12:38] <aradesh> oh, to my knowledge i didn't do anything. it was all working fine yesterday, and today when i started the laptop it just froze on a black screen. then after forcefully shutting down and getting the grub boot choice menu, i was able to boot up via recovery mode
[12:38] <aradesh> but now having done that a few times, run diagnostics, etc, now when i try the same process from the grub menu it only gets as far as blinking cursor
[12:39] <diogenes_> aradesh, do you happen to dual boot with windows?
[12:41] <aradesh> nope
[12:41] <aradesh> just xubuntu
[12:42] <diogenes_> how old is the HDD/SSD?
[12:42] <aradesh> maybe 2 years
[12:43] <diogenes_> try in recovery mde to boot up the first kernel (afaik it's 5.4 for 20.04)
[12:44] <diogenes_> mode*
[12:47] <aradesh> my last kernel is 5.4.0-54-generic, and i get the recovery menu
[12:47] <aradesh> though i suspect if i 'resume' it will get stuck at the blinking cursor
[12:49] <diogenes_> wait so you're talking about resuming? which means you can't wake it from sleep mode?
[12:51] <Maik> that kernel should be 5.4.0-62 by now
[12:52] <aradesh> well that's my oldest one
[12:53] <aradesh> diogenes_: the first option on recovery options is resume normal boot
[12:54] <diogenes_> aradesh, try the oldest kernel if it doesn't boot then as soon as you reach grub menu press e and tell me when you're there.
[12:55] <aradesh> press 'e' on which option?
[12:55] <aradesh> the main ubuntu one, or the recovery option?
[12:55] <aradesh> ok
[12:56] <diogenes_> the main default one
[13:02] <aradesh> diogenes_: https://pastebin.com/raw/vCFVTka7 might be typos as i copied it off the screen by hand
[13:02] <aradesh> only thing i didn't copy verbatim was some id string
[13:02] <diogenes_> aradesh, so i suspect it's an encrypted filesystem?
[13:03] <aradesh> yep
[13:03] <aradesh> it gets as far as the echoing of "Loading initial ramdisk ..."
[13:04] <aradesh> though on recovery mode it gets further and i'm able to enter the password
[13:06] <diogenes_> try this, after pressing 'e', navigate to the line 'linux' and remove the following agruments: ro  quiet splash $vt_handoff
[13:06] <diogenes_> and add the following one: nomodeset
[13:06] <diogenes_> after that hit ctrl+x
[13:06] <aradesh> just nomodeset instead of all four?
[13:06] <diogenes_> the line should look like this:
[13:06] <diogenes_> linux       /vmlinuz-5.4.0-56-generic root=/dev/mapper/xubuntu--vg-root nomodeset
[13:06] <diogenes_> that's all.
[13:06] <aradesh> okay.
[13:09] <aradesh> got to Loading initial ramdisk ... but stuck on a solid _
[13:09] <aradesh> either being very slow, or stuck
[13:10] <aradesh> poor broken computer
[13:10] <diogenes_> i suspect something with your encrypted filesystem has gone wrong.
[13:11] <diogenes_> let's try one more thing.
[13:11] <aradesh> but i am able to when in recovery mode have it accept my encryption password
[13:12] <aradesh> and access the hard drive via tty terminal
[13:12] <diogenes_> so you either can access your system via terminal or it's just stuc at _ and you cannot do anything? (i'm confused now).
[13:13] <aradesh> it depends what method i go through
[13:13] <aradesh> so if i select a 'recovery' option, it asks "please unlock disk sda3_crypt" and i can enter the pw
[13:14] <aradesh> then i get 'recovery menu'
[13:14] <diogenes_> and what happens next?
[13:14] <aradesh> andn i can choose 'resume normal boot'
[13:14] <aradesh> then i have blinking cursor, and i can say do windows key + f2 to change tty
[13:14] <aradesh> +f1
[13:14] <aradesh> and log in
[13:15] <aradesh> but... if i don't have 'recovery' selected, i don't even get as far as being able to enter my pw
[13:16] <diogenes_> ok get to the login at least, login and then trype: startxfce4
[13:17] <aradesh> printed out a bunch of stuff - and i got "Fatal server error:" "(EE) no screens found(EE)"
[13:19] <aradesh> and eventually xinit gave up and quit
[13:19] <diogenes_> ok now let's try this: sudo apt reinstall lightdm xorg
[13:20] <aradesh> it didn't like that command so i did: sudo apt-get --reinstall install lightdm xorg
[13:20] <aradesh> ok. shall i startxfce4 again?
[13:21] <aradesh> oo
[13:21] <aradesh> it's doing something different
[13:21] <diogenes_> hmm?
[13:21] <aradesh> it booted up this time
[13:21] <aradesh> shall i see if i can do a normal boot now?
[13:22] <diogenes_> so it booted up ok?
[13:22] <aradesh> yeah in a recovery mode way
[13:23] <aradesh> with none of my extra monitors on
[13:23] <diogenes_> ok now in terminal run: systemctl poweroff
[13:23] <diogenes_> and after it shuts dwn completely, fire it up in normal mode.
[13:24] <aradesh> starting in normal mode doesn't seem to be working
[13:24] <aradesh> but the reinstalling of lightdm and xorg seemed to get it to work in recovery mode at least
[13:26] <diogenes_> so you still didn't get any progress at all in normal mode?
[13:26] <aradesh> correct
[13:26] <aradesh> very strange
[13:27] <diogenes_> then in recovery more try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg
[13:27] <diogenes_> after that: sudo apt install -f
[13:28] <aradesh> another thing - i don't know if this is related, but i've noticed that the battery doesn't seem to be working. if i pull out the power cable, it just goes off
[13:30] <aradesh> ok, i ran those commands, though they didn't seem to do much.
[13:30] <aradesh> nothing got newly installed
[13:31] <diogenes_> they weren't supposed to install anything.
[13:31] <aradesh> okay
[13:35] <aradesh> still something not quite right with the graphics though. i guess that's because recovery mode uses nomodeset? can't chaneg the resolution of the screen for example
[13:36] <diogenes_> yep it disables the drivers what GPU btw?
[13:37] <aradesh> hmm
[13:37] <aradesh> lshw -C display tells me: *-display UNCLAIMED and says its just "Intel Corporation"
[13:37] <diogenes_> try in normal mode press 'e' and add nomodeset
[13:37] <aradesh> ok
[13:38] <aradesh> is there any command i can type to start it up in the kernel select mode?
[13:40] <aradesh> trying nomodeset now
[13:42] <aradesh> nope... still hangs
[13:44] <diogenes_> sorry i'm a bit busy now, maybe someone could help you further on or come back later.
[13:44] <aradesh> no problem. thanks for your help.
[13:44] <aradesh> i'll stick around.
[13:54] <aradesh> hmmm... managed to get it to boot up normally once. but then it didnt work again. i ran it with: ro nomodeset dis_ucode_ldr and then when it got to the login as user screen, i asked it to 'restart' and then it booted up like normal...
[13:57] <aradesh> same method worked again - asked it to 'restart' from recovery mode login, and then it booted up as normal
[13:57] <aradesh> very odd.
[13:59] <diogenes_> aradesh, ok try to boot it up normally and we'll be able to get some more info.
[14:00] <aradesh> well i currently have it booted up normally now
[14:00] <diogenes_> connected to internet?
[14:00] <aradesh> yep
[14:01] <diogenes_> then go to IRC on the PC
[14:02] <aradesh> what's wrong with being on IRC here?
[14:03] <aradesh> easier to copy  info?
[14:03] <aradesh> i'll just email it to myself or something, not convenient to set IRC up on it rn
[14:04] <diogenes_> aradesh, in terminal run: sudo apt install hexchat
[14:06] <aradesh> xD
[14:06] <aradesh> alright alright
[14:14] <diogenes_> now when you start hexchat, it asks you to join a channel, there you type: #xubuntu
[14:15] <aradesh> diogenes_: ok i'm on the pc
[14:16] <diogenes_> aradesh, first make sure your system is fully update: sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
[14:17] <aradesh> okay.
[14:31] <aradesh> ok that's done
[14:31] <diogenes_> so it upgraded some packages right?
[14:32] <aradesh> yes it took all that time
[14:32] <diogenes_> ok reboot now and fingers crossed.
[14:32] <aradesh> ok
[14:54] <aradesh> unfortunately i can't get my previous strategy to get it to boot up normally to work again
[15:23] <aradesh> still no luck
[16:11] <aradesh> diogenes_: hiya. i didn't have any luck. and my strategy for getting it back to boot up normally, i can't get it to work again.
[16:11] <aradesh> maybe the computer is just broken
[16:15] <diogenes_> aradesh, but can you get to the TTY as before?
[16:17] <aradesh> yeah yeah i can boot up with recovery mode too, and run terminals from there
[16:20] <aradesh> i think it's when nomodeset isn't on that it doesn't work.
[16:32] <diogenes_> aradesh, ok boot with recovery and connect to internet and get to IRC.
[16:32] <aradesh> yep. i am
[16:43] <diogenes_> aradesh, ok in terminal run: sudo apt install inxi
[16:44] <diogenes_> and btw ping me because im multitasking
[16:44] <aradesh> diogenes_: done
[16:45] <diogenes_> inxi -Fc0 | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:45] <diogenes_> share the url
[16:46] <aradesh> https://termbin.com/6cj1
[16:47] <aradesh> diogenes_: ^
[16:51] <diogenes_> aradesh, so when did you install the system?
[16:51] <aradesh> i think around sep 2020
[16:51] <aradesh> diogenes_: ^
[16:51] <aradesh> no...
[16:51] <aradesh> sep 2019
[16:55] <diogenes_> yes i thought it was 20.04 but it's 18.04, run: ls /usr/share/xsessions/ | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:56] <aradesh> diogenes_: https://termbin.com/6cj1
[16:57] <diogenes_> it's the previous one
[16:58] <aradesh> oh, sorry
[16:58] <aradesh> diogenes_: https://termbin.com/u4pm
[16:58] <diogenes_> so why do you have awesome installed?
[16:59] <aradesh> i just chose to use it
[17:00] <aradesh> no special reason
[17:02] <diogenes_> maybe this has something to do with your issue, sorry i know nothing about other window managers.
[17:05] <aradesh> no problem. thanks for taking the time to help me investigate.
[18:17] <Stan123> Hi, I wish to replace my old Xubuntu 18, i386 with Xubuntu 20, amd64. I use a DVD and try to preserve other systems installed on my computer and, as far as possible, programs under Xubuntu. I stopped the instalation at option 3 (modify existing partitions) before saving boot loader on my disk without assertion it won't affect GRUB. Unfortunately,
[18:17] <Stan123> there is no strait option to upgrade or replace old system preserving mounting points etc. So, can I safely proceed to replace old version of the system without loosing anything?