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ubptgbotandrewj720 was added by: andrewj72001:04
ubptgbot<andrewj720> Hi everyone. I'd like to put around several hundred tablets (ideally PineTabs) running UBPorts into kiosk mode and manage using a mutl-device manager. Do you know if Canonical's Landscape will work with UBPorts? Any tips on kiosk mode/software?01:07
ubptgbot<andrewj720> [Edit] Hi everyone. I'd like to put around several hundred tablets (ideally PineTabs) running UBPorts into kiosk mode and manage using a mutl-device manager. Do you know if Canonical's Landscape will work with UBPorts? Any tips on kiosk mode/software? (I haven't got hold of the tablets yet, so this is theoretical at present)01:07
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @thecavedweller [An android dsp, installable on linux as a gstreamer plugin], an android dsp? not sure what an dsp is but if it is a gstreamer plugin and is it maybe possible for us to ship it? if not than no, not unless we can do a prefix install02:19
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> ubuntu touch ships and update the entire rootfs but this scheme places some restriction on how things are installed. there are, however work arounds that allow some things be to be installed02:21
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> [Edit] ubuntu touch ships and update the entire rootfs but this scheme places some restriction on how things are installed.  … there are, however workarounds that can be used to install some things02:22
ubptgbot<thecavedweller> @Fuseteam [ubuntu touch ships and update the entire rootfs but this scheme places some rest …], I usually install it directly on arch through AUR, and execute the effects vía terminal, the developer told me it should work on phones without issues as long as al its gstreamer dependencies are available for arm02:33
ubptgbot<thecavedweller> It's just sound processing, viper4android or dolby type of thing02:34
ubptgbot<thecavedweller> But it sounds amazing properly configured02:34
ubptgbot<thecavedweller> @Fuseteam [ubuntu touch ships and update the entire rootfs but this scheme places some rest …], [Edit] I usually install both the gui and the gstreamer plugin directly on arch through AUR, and execute the effects vía terminal, the developer told me it should work on phones without issues as long as al its gstreamer dependencies are02:35
ubptgbot available for arm02:35
ubptgbot<thecavedweller> I never used it outside of arch before, only on android, but I was expecting to get lucky and get it working someday, specially because I completely lack experience on mobile linux 😅02:37
ubptgbot<thecavedweller> [Edit] I never used it outside of arch before, only on android, but I was expecting to get lucky and get it working someday, specially because I completely lack experience on mobile linux systems 😅02:37
ubptgbot<thecavedweller> @Fuseteam [ubuntu touch ships and update the entire rootfs but this scheme places some rest …], [Edit] I usually install both the gui and the gstreamer plugin directly on arch through AUR, and execute the effects vía terminal, the developer told me it should work on phones without issues as long as all the required gstreamer depend02:38
ubptgbotencies are available for arm02:38
ubptgbot<thecavedweller> @Fuseteam [an android dsp? not sure what an dsp is but if it is a gstreamer plugin and is i …], Yes it works with gstreamer, and the gui just install separately02:46
ubptgbot<thecavedweller> @Fuseteam [an android dsp? not sure what an dsp is but if it is a gstreamer plugin and is i …], [Edit] Yes it just works with gstreamer, the gui just installs separately02:47
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @thecavedweller [I usually install both the gui and the gstreamer plugin directly on arch through …], it can work but it will be lost on an ota update03:20
ubptgbot<thecavedweller> 😢 Well, at least I could reinstall later after learning03:20
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> this is the nature of that of ut's image based system03:21
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> the dev could make it work with ut's readonly rootfs by say packaging it for ubuntu touch03:22
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> or if its redistributable ut could just ship the package by default03:23
ubptgbot<thecavedweller> I may ask him again about it, but I'm not sure he would want to package it 🤔, I'll send a message later03:25
ubptgbot<thecavedweller> Thanks for the help, I'm just learning about UT 😅✌️03:26
ubptgbot<thecavedweller> Hope to have my phone soon03:26
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> sure no problem03:28
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> maybe good to know that while ut's rootfs is readonly there are a few writable paths that are bind mounted  from /userdata03:29
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> [Edit] maybe good to know that while ut's rootfs is readonly there are a few writable paths that are bind mounted  from `/userdata`03:30
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> those path are configured in `/etc/system-image/writable-paths`, here's mine, tho tis a bit modified for some experiments: https://termbin.com/hmo103:33
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> [Edit] those paths are configured in `/etc/system-image/writable-paths`, here's mine, tho tis a bit modified for some experiments: https://termbin.com/hmo103:33
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> modifications to this file does get overwriten on a full ota update btw03:34
ubptgbot文 迈克 was added by: 文 迈克06:19
ubptgbot<Flohack> @andrewj720 [Hi everyone. I'd like to put around several hundred tablets (ideally PineTabs) r …], For such a large number of devices we might be able to help you directly, plz pm me ;) so we better understand your needs06:34
ubptgbot<andrewj720> @Flohack [For such a large number of devices we might be able to help you directly, plz pm …], Thank you, I'll be in touch shortly.09:26
ubptgbot<fredldotme> @andrewj720 [Thank you, I'll be in touch shortly.], Is it for signage purposes?09:29
ubptgbot<By brian All rights reserved> Having issue with browser not connecting to internet on data redmi note 709:30
ubptgbot<fredldotme> @By brian All rights reserved [Having issue with browser not connecting to internet on data redmi note 7], Tried forcing 3G instead of LTE?09:30
ubptgbot<By brian All rights reserved> Its on 2g/3g09:34
ubptgbot<fredldotme> Huh. Better ask the porter then.09:35
ubptgbot<By brian All rights reserved> Apert from that its working really good09:36
ubptgbot<By brian All rights reserved> Usb c fast charge nice screen09:36
ubptgbot<By brian All rights reserved> So how can I fix the data problem on the redmi note 7 anyidea or help would be appreciated09:44
ubptgbot<andrewj720> @fredldotme [Is it for signage purposes?], Not quite, it's for live streaming from a Windows corporate device to kiosk tablets, which would be used by a group of temporary guest users for a day. And to be able to push files (.doc, .PDF, .mp4, etc) to all kiosk tablets from the corporate Windows box using a multi-device manger. The oper09:50
ubptgbotators of the Windows box will be normals, not IT team, so solution ideally will be drag and drop, similar to many MDMs.09:50
ubptgbot<fredldotme> @andrewj720 [Not quite, it's for live streaming from a Windows corporate device to kiosk tabl …], Oh, interesting. I used to work in digital signage so it's kind of a soft spot for me. I'm not sure about MDM though, UT might not be integrated with Landscape as much as we would hope to.09:53
ubptgbot<andrewj720> @fredldotme [Oh, interesting. I used to work in digital signage so it's kind of a soft spot f …], Cool! Ive played with some RPi magic mirrors and also deployed a Xibo setup for an organisation, but nothing heavyweight. I agree about Landscape - I may have to build a basic, preconfigured, ftp server for the Win users to log into, dump09:59
ubptgbotthe files, and then allow a sync to take place as the kiosks are booted and come online.09:59
ubptgbot<Flohack> @andrewj720 [Cool! Ive played with some RPi magic mirrors and also deployed a Xibo setup for …], So what should the user experience be on the tablet? Reduced fullscreen, auto login etc?10:00
ubptgbot<andrewj720> @Flohack [So what should the user experience be on the tablet? Reduced fullscreen, auto lo …], That's right: autologin, screen rotation allowed, battery/network/time can be displayed in status panel, and all other actions and apps hidden. There should be ability for an admin to bring up a terminal and gain root for updates/config). All10:06
ubptgbot the users should see upon boot (after a nice UBPorts splash screen!) is the status panel and a plain desktop with a number of icons (link to FFMPEG stream and other media files sent by the MDM)10:06
ubptgbotAmbrakatokaso_ybill was added by: Ambrakatokaso_ybill11:10
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> please note by default we have a launcher for apps rather than icons on the "desktop" and updates are applied differently than vanilla ubuntu11:12
ubptgbot<Flohack> @Fuseteam [please note by default we have a launcher for apps rather than icons on the "des …], But it would be a perfect match, our OS is confined very well, so ppl cannot mess with it, and we would just remove all apps that are not needed.11:45
ubptgbot<Ambrakatokaso_ybill> Super!!! I got  2 Bitcoin!! … Looook - https://bit.ly/39QwTJl11:45
ubptgbot<Flohack> And one can also install custom apps on top11:45
ubptgbot<mateosalta> i once had the idea to hack the login screen - change it so the 'emergency' button would launch a app of choice12:06
ubptgbot<mateosalta> the way it launches the dialer is idea for this usage12:07
ubptgbot<mateosalta> reduce it to two buttons - something like launch kiosk, and admin(then shows password login)12:11
ubptgbot<mateosalta> you could then make any app, and qt makes several demos that are perfect for kiosk usage -  picture wall - car dash, or even a single webapp, they could just update a website and it would always be new12:15
ubptgbotjasonx763 was added by: jasonx76312:50
ubptgbot<Gud_kom_fra_vest> What’s the problem? CM kernel, UT rc13:46
ubptgbot<Gud_kom_fra_vest> (Video, 49s) https://irc.ubports.com/XQxkQ0l8.mp413:46
ubptgbotefobowec was added by: efobowec14:10
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Gud_kom_fra_vest [What’s the problem? CM kernel, UT rc], what do you mean? It's a Nexus 5? You're running a different kernel than the one installed by UT?14:30
ubptgbot<By brian All rights reserved> What other phone’s will do this I like the convergence but want a newer phone14:48
ubptgbot<By brian All rights reserved> Trying to get a proton email client that will send a nototification to phone none seem to work in th store they load my email but never a notification and i cant enable inside the software15:24
ubptgbot<dohbee> yes there is no solution for webpush yet15:33
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Flohack [But it would be a perfect match, our OS is confined very well, so ppl cannot mes …], yep, its just we have to set the right expectations considering they mentioned root access to push updates15:39
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Flohack [But it would be a perfect match, our OS is confined very well, so ppl cannot mes …], the basics maybe, but one would need to build their own custom images and rootfs for a proper kiosk device, i think15:42
ubptgbot<Flohack> @dohbee [the basics maybe, but one would need to build their own custom images and rootfs …], Yeah sure. And the core team cannot do this right now :P15:42
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> or could they? vsauce music intensifies15:43
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Fuseteam [or could they? vsauce music intensifies], $$$$$$$$$$ maybe15:43
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> 😂15:43
ubptgbot<By brian All rights reserved> (Photo, 1080x2340) https://irc.ubports.com/em7UsvQF.png17:26
ubptgbot<dohbee> yeah google doesn't like third parties any more17:26
ubptgbot<By brian All rights reserved> Ain't that a suprise lol17:27
ubptgbot<By brian All rights reserved> So I still have issue with mobile data not working set up apn I've switched to development channel still same apart from this its running really good17:30
ubptgbot<By brian All rights reserved> Red mi note 717:31
ubptgbot<mateosalta> @By brian All rights reserved [<reply to media>], try this17:31
ubptgbot<mateosalta> aw, hold on need to find the link17:36
ubptgbot<Steve Kueffer> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/sBVgcQ3q.null17:37
ubptgbot<NotKit> @By brian All rights reserved [So I still have issue with mobile data not working set up apn I've switched to d …], @RealDanct12 did mobile data work for you? if yes, could you please test if it is a recent regression?17:39
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> @NotKit [@RealDanct12 did mobile data work for you? if yes, could you please test if it i …], I'll have to put my sim card to the note 717:39
ubptgbot<mateosalta> @Steve Kueffer [<reply to media>], ah, there we go thank you17:40
ubptgbot<efobowec> Elon just made my day great!! Thanks to 2x ETH! … https://bit.ly/3o2HK8917:41
ubptgbot<By brian All rights reserved> @NotKit [@RealDanct12 did mobile data work for you? if yes, could you please test if it i …], No mobile data still not working it’s the only thing stopping me from a daily driver pointless without it17:45
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/S2lN2Kht.png17:59
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> On latest devel17:59
ubptgbot<NotKit> loading page in browser works as well?18:20
ubptgbot<NotKit> @RealDanct12 [On latest devel], loading page in browser works as well?18:20
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> yup18:20
ubptgbot<NotKit> weird. I wonder if something is special about APN settings for others18:21
ubptgbot<By brian All rights reserved> @Steve Kueffer [<reply to media>], I presume I need to do this using a Linux pc18:29
ubptgbot<Steve Kueffer> You need to download the file a place it into "Downloads" folder in your smartphone … Than open terminal on your smartphone and go into your Download directory: cd Downloads … Than: … sudo -s … sudo mount -o remount,rw / … sudo dpkg -i "deb file" (replace "deb file" by the exact name of the file) … Hope it's more clear for you.18:38
ubptgbotMohrehmaan was added by: Mohrehmaan20:57
ubptgbot<Mohrehmaan> Great work this community is doing, keep up the good work 😄21:01
ubptgbot<Mohrehmaan> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/7fmIKPQY.mp421:01
ubptgbotGrillon was added by: Grillon21:12
ubptgbot<Grillon> hi there21:12
ubptgbot<Grillon> how can I reinstall android on ubuntu touch system?21:13
ubptgbot<dohbee> follow the OEM flashing instructions, or the instructions for your preferred ROM21:15
ubptgbot<Grillon> thank you, what about ubports recovery? Do I have to erase it?21:16
ubptgbot<ItsMeShouko> @Grillon [thank you, what about ubports recovery? Do I have to erase it?], if your device isn't A/B then you will have to21:17
ubptgbot<ItsMeShouko> @Grillon [thank you, what about ubports recovery? Do I have to erase it?], [Edit] if your device isn't A/B then you will have to if you are flashing a custom rom21:18
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Grillon [thank you, what about ubports recovery? Do I have to erase it?], you won't need it if you're getting rid of UT21:18
ubptgbot<Grillon> ok thank you21:19
ubptgbot<jcbayonne> @By brian All rights reserved [<reply to media>], I already moved away from gmail21:22
ubptgbot<jcbayonne> Slowly Gmail also will be locked21:22
ubptgbot<jcbayonne> Better switch OS from Android to open source21:22
ubptgbot<boriseto> Where can we see which PRs are going to be included for the next release?21:25
ubptgbot<dohbee> @boriseto [Where can we see which PRs are going to be included for the next release?], for which channel?21:26
ubptgbot<dohbee> there isn't a curated list though21:26
ubptgbot<boriseto> Well either one  … I am not sure how things are defined, I thought they go from stable to stable...21:27
ubptgbot<dohbee> PRs go into devel first when they are merged. RC releases (when not blocked) happen weekly. and when it's time to do a release to stable, we freeze and do testing21:28
ubptgbot<boriseto> Got it. Thanks21:29
ubptgbot<dohbee> but as we're upgrading to qt 5.12 for OTA-16 release to stable, there will be a lot of PRs21:29
ubptgbot<boriseto> Oh I see. Okay, thank you.21:30
ubptgbot<marquiskurt> Hi, is there a way I can install and avahi-daemon on Ubuntu Touch? I'd like to be able to access my devices on the same network via Bonjour, but am unable to connect to local addresses. I've tried installing it through Libertine, but I'm not noticing any changes. (I also understand the risks in running daemons regarind battery life)21:38
ubptgbot<fredldotme> I'm actually surprised we're not shipping it already, I try to make use of zeroconf wherever I can..21:41
ubptgbot<marquiskurt> Yeah, trying to connect to my new Nextcloud instance and am able to on my Mac, VMs, and iPhone 😅21:43
ubptgbot<marquiskurt> I can access the IP address, but I'd like to be able to use "redstone.local" instead since I plan to move shortly and don't want to keep hunting down the IP address21:43
ubptgbot<fredldotme> Yeah, I get it. Maybe we should do something about that, it's not like avahi would be resource intensive.21:44
calielgood morning #ubports22:12
calielhow can I mount my ubuntu touch smartphone on a linux PC? I have tried with mtpfs but it reports error and does not connect the device22:12
calielthank you22:12
ubptgbot<dohbee> what device? you need to have the screen unlocked to be able to mount the mtp22:14
ubptgbot<marquiskurt> Odd. I'm able to connect my device just fine, but I'm not sure if that has to do with developer mode...22:14
ubptgbot<dohbee> no, developer mode only enables adb22:15
calielmmm ok screen unlocked let me try22:15
calieloh thanks it works :-)22:15
calielbut I have some recordings on it, that I cannot find -.-'22:17
ubptgbot<dohbee> you mean with sound recorder or something?22:20
calielsound recorder22:21
ubptgbot<dohbee> ok. yeah app data dirs are not exposed over mtp currently. you can enable ssh on the phone and find them via sftp thoughh22:22
calieli have found a way - "share with" and place in "Documents", but it's kinda weird22:23
calielsorry for the silly questions, I have just installed UBPorts the first time so I am not used :-)22:23
calielok ssh on the phone22:23
ubptgbot<Stereofont> No question is silly :)22:24
calielno - even moving the .ogg files in the "Document" directory, no files on the mount mmmm22:25
calielthat's weird22:27
ubptgbot<dohbee> things in Documents folder are definitely visible here22:28
calielI have just searched in the mounted dir and I cannot find the ogg files \o/22:29
calielit's strange let me double check22:29
ubptgbot<Melwin Rodriguez> Hello does anyone have the Librem 5?22:30
ubptgbot<Flohack> @Melwin Rodriguez [Hello does anyone have the Librem 5?], Not many as UBuntu Touch was not ported to a usable state for it ^^22:34
calielok - i have double checked - on the phablet I have 4 files in the Documents folder, but in the Documents folder via mtpfs, no trace of them.... what am I doing wrong?22:40
ubptgbot<Flohack> @caliel [ok - i have double checked - on the phablet I have 4 files in the Documents fold …], Maybe access permissions?22:42
ubptgbot<Flohack> what does ls -la say22:42
calielone moment22:47
caliells -la - it seems that dirs are 77722:48
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