[01:04] <ubptgbot> andrewj720 was added by: andrewj720
 Hi everyone. I'd like to put around several hundred tablets (ideally PineTabs) running UBPorts into kiosk mode and manage using a mutl-device manager. Do you know if Canonical's Landscape will work with UBPorts? Any tips on kiosk mode/software?
 [Edit] Hi everyone. I'd like to put around several hundred tablets (ideally PineTabs) running UBPorts into kiosk mode and manage using a mutl-device manager. Do you know if Canonical's Landscape will work with UBPorts? Any tips on kiosk mode/software? (I haven't got hold of the tablets yet, so this is theoretical at present)
 @thecavedweller [An android dsp, installable on linux as a gstreamer plugin], an android dsp? not sure what an dsp is but if it is a gstreamer plugin and is it maybe possible for us to ship it? if not than no, not unless we can do a prefix install
 ubuntu touch ships and update the entire rootfs but this scheme places some restriction on how things are installed. there are, however work arounds that allow some things be to be installed
 [Edit] ubuntu touch ships and update the entire rootfs but this scheme places some restriction on how things are installed.  … there are, however workarounds that can be used to install some things
 @Fuseteam [ubuntu touch ships and update the entire rootfs but this scheme places some rest …], I usually install it directly on arch through AUR, and execute the effects vía terminal, the developer told me it should work on phones without issues as long as al its gstreamer dependencies are available for arm
 It's just sound processing, viper4android or dolby type of thing
 But it sounds amazing properly configured
 @Fuseteam [ubuntu touch ships and update the entire rootfs but this scheme places some rest …], [Edit] I usually install both the gui and the gstreamer plugin directly on arch through AUR, and execute the effects vía terminal, the developer told me it should work on phones without issues as long as al its gstreamer dependencies are
[02:35] <ubptgbot>  available for arm
 I never used it outside of arch before, only on android, but I was expecting to get lucky and get it working someday, specially because I completely lack experience on mobile linux 😅
 [Edit] I never used it outside of arch before, only on android, but I was expecting to get lucky and get it working someday, specially because I completely lack experience on mobile linux systems 😅
 @Fuseteam [ubuntu touch ships and update the entire rootfs but this scheme places some rest …], [Edit] I usually install both the gui and the gstreamer plugin directly on arch through AUR, and execute the effects vía terminal, the developer told me it should work on phones without issues as long as all the required gstreamer depend
[02:38] <ubptgbot> encies are available for arm
 @Fuseteam [an android dsp? not sure what an dsp is but if it is a gstreamer plugin and is i …], Yes it works with gstreamer, and the gui just install separately
 @Fuseteam [an android dsp? not sure what an dsp is but if it is a gstreamer plugin and is i …], [Edit] Yes it just works with gstreamer, the gui just installs separately
 @thecavedweller [I usually install both the gui and the gstreamer plugin directly on arch through …], it can work but it will be lost on an ota update
 😢 Well, at least I could reinstall later after learning
 this is the nature of that of ut's image based system
 the dev could make it work with ut's readonly rootfs by say packaging it for ubuntu touch
 or if its redistributable ut could just ship the package by default
 I may ask him again about it, but I'm not sure he would want to package it 🤔, I'll send a message later
 Thanks for the help, I'm just learning about UT 😅✌️
 Hope to have my phone soon
 sure no problem
 maybe good to know that while ut's rootfs is readonly there are a few writable paths that are bind mounted  from /userdata
 [Edit] maybe good to know that while ut's rootfs is readonly there are a few writable paths that are bind mounted  from `/userdata`
 those path are configured in `/etc/system-image/writable-paths`, here's mine, tho tis a bit modified for some experiments: https://termbin.com/hmo1
 [Edit] those paths are configured in `/etc/system-image/writable-paths`, here's mine, tho tis a bit modified for some experiments: https://termbin.com/hmo1
 modifications to this file does get overwriten on a full ota update btw
[06:19] <ubptgbot> 文 迈克 was added by: 文 迈克
 @andrewj720 [Hi everyone. I'd like to put around several hundred tablets (ideally PineTabs) r …], For such a large number of devices we might be able to help you directly, plz pm me ;) so we better understand your needs
 @Flohack [For such a large number of devices we might be able to help you directly, plz pm …], Thank you, I'll be in touch shortly.
 @andrewj720 [Thank you, I'll be in touch shortly.], Is it for signage purposes?
[09:30] <ubptgbot> <By brian All rights reserved> Having issue with browser not connecting to internet on data redmi note 7
 @By brian All rights reserved [Having issue with browser not connecting to internet on data redmi note 7], Tried forcing 3G instead of LTE?
[09:34] <ubptgbot> <By brian All rights reserved> Its on 2g/3g
 Huh. Better ask the porter then.
[09:36] <ubptgbot> <By brian All rights reserved> Apert from that its working really good
[09:36] <ubptgbot> <By brian All rights reserved> Usb c fast charge nice screen
[09:44] <ubptgbot> <By brian All rights reserved> So how can I fix the data problem on the redmi note 7 anyidea or help would be appreciated
 @fredldotme [Is it for signage purposes?], Not quite, it's for live streaming from a Windows corporate device to kiosk tablets, which would be used by a group of temporary guest users for a day. And to be able to push files (.doc, .PDF, .mp4, etc) to all kiosk tablets from the corporate Windows box using a multi-device manger. The oper
[09:50] <ubptgbot> ators of the Windows box will be normals, not IT team, so solution ideally will be drag and drop, similar to many MDMs.
 @andrewj720 [Not quite, it's for live streaming from a Windows corporate device to kiosk tabl …], Oh, interesting. I used to work in digital signage so it's kind of a soft spot for me. I'm not sure about MDM though, UT might not be integrated with Landscape as much as we would hope to.
 @fredldotme [Oh, interesting. I used to work in digital signage so it's kind of a soft spot f …], Cool! Ive played with some RPi magic mirrors and also deployed a Xibo setup for an organisation, but nothing heavyweight. I agree about Landscape - I may have to build a basic, preconfigured, ftp server for the Win users to log into, dump
[09:59] <ubptgbot> the files, and then allow a sync to take place as the kiosks are booted and come online.
 @andrewj720 [Cool! Ive played with some RPi magic mirrors and also deployed a Xibo setup for …], So what should the user experience be on the tablet? Reduced fullscreen, auto login etc?
 @Flohack [So what should the user experience be on the tablet? Reduced fullscreen, auto lo …], That's right: autologin, screen rotation allowed, battery/network/time can be displayed in status panel, and all other actions and apps hidden. There should be ability for an admin to bring up a terminal and gain root for updates/config). All
[10:06] <ubptgbot>  the users should see upon boot (after a nice UBPorts splash screen!) is the status panel and a plain desktop with a number of icons (link to FFMPEG stream and other media files sent by the MDM)
[11:10] <ubptgbot> Ambrakatokaso_ybill was added by: Ambrakatokaso_ybill
 please note by default we have a launcher for apps rather than icons on the "desktop" and updates are applied differently than vanilla ubuntu
 @Fuseteam [please note by default we have a launcher for apps rather than icons on the "des …], But it would be a perfect match, our OS is confined very well, so ppl cannot mess with it, and we would just remove all apps that are not needed.
 Super!!! I got  2 Bitcoin!! … Looook - https://bit.ly/39QwTJl
 And one can also install custom apps on top
 i once had the idea to hack the login screen - change it so the 'emergency' button would launch a app of choice
 the way it launches the dialer is idea for this usage
 reduce it to two buttons - something like launch kiosk, and admin(then shows password login)
 you could then make any app, and qt makes several demos that are perfect for kiosk usage -  picture wall - car dash, or even a single webapp, they could just update a website and it would always be new
[12:50] <ubptgbot> jasonx763 was added by: jasonx763
 What’s the problem? CM kernel, UT rc
 (Video, 49s) https://irc.ubports.com/XQxkQ0l8.mp4
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 @Gud_kom_fra_vest [What’s the problem? CM kernel, UT rc], what do you mean? It's a Nexus 5? You're running a different kernel than the one installed by UT?
[14:48] <ubptgbot> <By brian All rights reserved> What other phone’s will do this I like the convergence but want a newer phone
[15:24] <ubptgbot> <By brian All rights reserved> Trying to get a proton email client that will send a nototification to phone none seem to work in th store they load my email but never a notification and i cant enable inside the software
 yes there is no solution for webpush yet
 @Flohack [But it would be a perfect match, our OS is confined very well, so ppl cannot mes …], yep, its just we have to set the right expectations considering they mentioned root access to push updates
 @Flohack [But it would be a perfect match, our OS is confined very well, so ppl cannot mes …], the basics maybe, but one would need to build their own custom images and rootfs for a proper kiosk device, i think
 @dohbee [the basics maybe, but one would need to build their own custom images and rootfs …], Yeah sure. And the core team cannot do this right now :P
 or could they? vsauce music intensifies
 @Fuseteam [or could they? vsauce music intensifies], $$$$$$$$$$ maybe
 😂
[17:26] <ubptgbot> <By brian All rights reserved> (Photo, 1080x2340) https://irc.ubports.com/em7UsvQF.png
 yeah google doesn't like third parties any more
[17:27] <ubptgbot> <By brian All rights reserved> Ain't that a suprise lol
[17:30] <ubptgbot> <By brian All rights reserved> So I still have issue with mobile data not working set up apn I've switched to development channel still same apart from this its running really good
[17:31] <ubptgbot> <By brian All rights reserved> Red mi note 7
 @By brian All rights reserved [<reply to media>], try this
 aw, hold on need to find the link
[17:37] <ubptgbot> <Steve Kueffer> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/sBVgcQ3q.null
 @By brian All rights reserved [So I still have issue with mobile data not working set up apn I've switched to d …], @RealDanct12 did mobile data work for you? if yes, could you please test if it is a recent regression?
 @NotKit [@RealDanct12 did mobile data work for you? if yes, could you please test if it i …], I'll have to put my sim card to the note 7
 @Steve Kueffer [<reply to media>], ah, there we go thank you
 Elon just made my day great!! Thanks to 2x ETH! … https://bit.ly/3o2HK89
[17:45] <ubptgbot> <By brian All rights reserved> @NotKit [@RealDanct12 did mobile data work for you? if yes, could you please test if it i …], No mobile data still not working it’s the only thing stopping me from a daily driver pointless without it
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/S2lN2Kht.png
 On latest devel
 loading page in browser works as well?
 @RealDanct12 [On latest devel], loading page in browser works as well?
 yup
 weird. I wonder if something is special about APN settings for others
[18:29] <ubptgbot> <By brian All rights reserved> @Steve Kueffer [<reply to media>], I presume I need to do this using a Linux pc
[18:38] <ubptgbot> <Steve Kueffer> You need to download the file a place it into "Downloads" folder in your smartphone … Than open terminal on your smartphone and go into your Download directory: cd Downloads … Than: … sudo -s … sudo mount -o remount,rw / … sudo dpkg -i "deb file" (replace "deb file" by the exact name of the file) … Hope it's more clear for you.
[20:57] <ubptgbot> Mohrehmaan was added by: Mohrehmaan
 Great work this community is doing, keep up the good work 😄
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/7fmIKPQY.mp4
[21:12] <ubptgbot> Grillon was added by: Grillon
 hi there
 how can I reinstall android on ubuntu touch system?
 follow the OEM flashing instructions, or the instructions for your preferred ROM
 thank you, what about ubports recovery? Do I have to erase it?
 @Grillon [thank you, what about ubports recovery? Do I have to erase it?], if your device isn't A/B then you will have to
 @Grillon [thank you, what about ubports recovery? Do I have to erase it?], [Edit] if your device isn't A/B then you will have to if you are flashing a custom rom
 @Grillon [thank you, what about ubports recovery? Do I have to erase it?], you won't need it if you're getting rid of UT
 ok thank you
 @By brian All rights reserved [<reply to media>], I already moved away from gmail
 Slowly Gmail also will be locked
 Better switch OS from Android to open source
 Where can we see which PRs are going to be included for the next release?
 @boriseto [Where can we see which PRs are going to be included for the next release?], for which channel?
 there isn't a curated list though
 Well either one  … I am not sure how things are defined, I thought they go from stable to stable...
 PRs go into devel first when they are merged. RC releases (when not blocked) happen weekly. and when it's time to do a release to stable, we freeze and do testing
 Got it. Thanks
 but as we're upgrading to qt 5.12 for OTA-16 release to stable, there will be a lot of PRs
 Oh I see. Okay, thank you.
 Hi, is there a way I can install and avahi-daemon on Ubuntu Touch? I'd like to be able to access my devices on the same network via Bonjour, but am unable to connect to local addresses. I've tried installing it through Libertine, but I'm not noticing any changes. (I also understand the risks in running daemons regarind battery life)
 I'm actually surprised we're not shipping it already, I try to make use of zeroconf wherever I can..
 Yeah, trying to connect to my new Nextcloud instance and am able to on my Mac, VMs, and iPhone 😅
 I can access the IP address, but I'd like to be able to use "redstone.local" instead since I plan to move shortly and don't want to keep hunting down the IP address
 Yeah, I get it. Maybe we should do something about that, it's not like avahi would be resource intensive.
[22:12] <caliel> good morning #ubports
[22:12] <caliel> how can I mount my ubuntu touch smartphone on a linux PC? I have tried with mtpfs but it reports error and does not connect the device
[22:12] <caliel> thank you
 what device? you need to have the screen unlocked to be able to mount the mtp
 Odd. I'm able to connect my device just fine, but I'm not sure if that has to do with developer mode...
 no, developer mode only enables adb
[22:15] <caliel> mmm ok screen unlocked let me try
[22:15] <caliel> oh thanks it works :-)
[22:17] <caliel> but I have some recordings on it, that I cannot find -.-'
 you mean with sound recorder or something?
[22:21] <caliel> sound recorder
 ok. yeah app data dirs are not exposed over mtp currently. you can enable ssh on the phone and find them via sftp thoughh
[22:23] <caliel> i have found a way - "share with" and place in "Documents", but it's kinda weird
[22:23] <caliel> sorry for the silly questions, I have just installed UBPorts the first time so I am not used :-)
[22:23] <caliel> ok ssh on the phone
 No question is silly :)
[22:25] <caliel> no - even moving the .ogg files in the "Document" directory, no files on the mount mmmm
[22:27] <caliel> that's weird
 things in Documents folder are definitely visible here
[22:29] <caliel> I have just searched in the mounted dir and I cannot find the ogg files \o/
[22:29] <caliel> it's strange let me double check
[22:30] <ubptgbot> <Melwin Rodriguez> Hello does anyone have the Librem 5?
 @Melwin Rodriguez [Hello does anyone have the Librem 5?], Not many as UBuntu Touch was not ported to a usable state for it ^^
[22:40] <caliel> ok - i have double checked - on the phablet I have 4 files in the Documents folder, but in the Documents folder via mtpfs, no trace of them.... what am I doing wrong?
 @caliel [ok - i have double checked - on the phablet I have 4 files in the Documents fold …], Maybe access permissions?
 what does ls -la say
[22:47] <caliel> one moment
[22:48] <caliel> ls -la - it seems that dirs are 777
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