[11:37] be great if Launchpad live-updated MPs when people post reviews :> [11:38] xnox beat me by like 10 minutes on that sound.target one but I didn't know until the emails came through later! [11:55] hahhaha [11:55] Laney: i am pondering that, in system case there are things that are sound.target wants (ie. alsa-restore.service alsa-store.service) and they remain active, keeping sound.target active. [11:55] Laney: and in user case, there are none. [11:56] does it matter? [11:56] it's only an indication that sound is 'available' [11:57] i think it is intentional to be that way, instead of accidental. [11:57] just felt "odd" that sound-card0.device was available and active in both system & user inits, and yet sound.target was only available in the system one. [11:59] it does seem like the SYSTEMD_USER_WANTS isn't working properly maybe [12:01] it works for bluetooth.target though, weird [12:02] although from the active time it looks like this gets hotplugged at unsuspend time, maybe that makes it work better [12:02] and thus ends my curiosity :D