/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2021/01/21/#ubuntu-release.txt

-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: krb5 [i386] (hirsute-proposed/main) [1.18.3-4] (core, i386-whitelist)00:00
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted krb5 [amd64] (hirsute-proposed) [1.18.3-4]00:19
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted krb5 [armhf] (hirsute-proposed) [1.18.3-4]00:19
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted krb5 [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed) [1.18.3-4]00:19
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libphonenumber [amd64] (hirsute-proposed) [8.12.16-3]00:19
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libphonenumber [armhf] (hirsute-proposed) [8.12.16-3]00:19
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libphonenumber [s390x] (hirsute-proposed) [8.12.16-3]00:19
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted qgis [arm64] (hirsute-proposed) [3.10.14+dfsg-1ubuntu1]00:19
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted qgis [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed) [3.10.14+dfsg-1ubuntu1]00:19
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted krb5 [arm64] (hirsute-proposed) [1.18.3-4]00:19
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted krb5 [s390x] (hirsute-proposed) [1.18.3-4]00:19
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libphonenumber [i386] (hirsute-proposed) [8.12.16-3]00:19
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted qgis [armhf] (hirsute-proposed) [3.10.14+dfsg-1ubuntu1]00:19
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted krb5 [i386] (hirsute-proposed) [1.18.3-4]00:19
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted qgis [amd64] (hirsute-proposed) [3.10.14+dfsg-1ubuntu1]00:19
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libphonenumber [arm64] (hirsute-proposed) [8.12.16-3]00:19
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted qgis [s390x] (hirsute-proposed) [3.10.14+dfsg-1ubuntu1]00:19
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: hyperspy [amd64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [1.6.1-1] (no packageset)00:41
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: cclive [s390x] (hirsute-proposed/none) [0.9.3-0.2] (no packageset)05:18
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: metadata-cleaner [s390x] (hirsute-proposed/none) [1.0.0-1] (no packageset)05:18
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: metadata-cleaner [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed/none) [1.0.0-1] (no packageset)05:19
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: cclive [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [0.9.3-0.2] (no packageset)05:20
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: python-anyio [amd64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [2.0.2-1] (no packageset)05:20
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: digimend-dkms [amd64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [10-1] (no packageset)05:20
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: cclive [amd64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [0.9.3-0.2] (no packageset)05:23
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: metadata-cleaner [arm64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [1.0.0-1] (no packageset)05:24
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: metadata-cleaner [armhf] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [1.0.0-1] (no packageset)05:25
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: cclive [armhf] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [0.9.3-0.2] (no packageset)05:28
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: metadata-cleaner [amd64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [1.0.0-1] (no packageset)05:29
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: cclive [arm64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [0.9.3-0.2] (no packageset)05:32
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: metadata-cleaner [riscv64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [1.0.0-1] (no packageset)05:45
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: cclive [riscv64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [0.9.3-0.2] (no packageset)06:16
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-gcp [amd64] (xenial-proposed) [4.15.0-1092.105~16.04.1]06:22
ginggswould someone please review? https://code.launchpad.net/~ginggs/autopkgtest-cloud/+git/autopkgtest-cloud/+merge/39664006:42
ginggsi think it's the last blocker for r-bioc-* migration06:42
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-gke-4.15 [amd64] (bionic-proposed/main) [4.15.0-1078.83] (no packageset)08:13
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-gke-4.15 [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [4.15.0-1078.83]08:31
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: s390-tools (hirsute-proposed/main) [2.15.1-0ubuntu5 => 2.15.1-0ubuntu6] (core)08:36
seb128would any archive admin want to review this change for component mismatch reports?08:51
seb128https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/ubuntu-archive-tools/component-mismatches-mirtitles/+merge/39513308:51
seb128it has been in the queue since early decembre08:51
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-oracle [amd64] (xenial-proposed/main) [4.15.0-1064.71~16.04.1] (kernel)09:17
juliankcjwatson: Wondering if we should have launchpad set some arbitrary (or like increasing) Phased-Update-Percentage for hirsute-proposed, such that we have some way to test the new phased update support in apt and make sure it works everywhere?09:24
juliankbdmurray rightfully pointed out that there's no way we can really test it now09:24
juliankhaving it set it in proposed would help simulate the effects on builders at least09:25
juliankNot that we end up releasing and then end up with problems somewhere from phased updates in -updates behaving different from what we expected09:26
seb128juliank, would that automatically impact some users or would they still need then to opt in by changing their apt config or something?09:45
seb128because randomly giving proposed updates to some users doesn't sound like something we should be goind09:46
seb128doing09:46
juliankseb128: it's opt-out09:46
juliankseb128: I feel like we gotta do some in the wild testing but I don't know what the best approach is09:47
seb128-1 from me09:47
seb128proposed is something we recommend not using, it would be bad taste to silently give updates from there to some users only for testing purpose09:47
seb128could we make it opt-in?09:48
juliankseb128: that's not what it's about09:48
juliankseb128: The phasing would be opt-out, if you have proposed enabled09:48
juliankIf you don't have proposed enabled, nothing changes09:48
seb128ah, right09:48
juliankSomething got lost somewhere in the explanation :D09:48
seb128I feel better about it described this way ;-)09:49
seb128right, if people go to the active step to enable proposed then it's fine to give them updates coming from there09:49
juliankyes, and phasing them at like +10% per hour since publishing, or just fixed 50% or something to test out phased updates in apt would be useful09:50
LaneyI dunno, I always felt like proposed should be NotAutomatic, so you can actually sensibly opt in to only testing some things in there09:50
Laneyseb128: I will review that in a minute, thx for the ping09:50
juliankLaney: I agree with that, but the reason it's not is that builders would have to manually enable it09:51
juliankum, manually pin it back up09:51
juliankAt least that's what people said when I wanted to get this changed :)09:51
Laneyyeah, they would have to have pinning, but that feels quite solvable09:51
seb128Laney, thanks!09:51
Laneybut I'm not sure how that would mix with phasing then09:51
juliankLaney: the phasing overrides pins09:52
juliankcommand-line selector > phasing > pin09:52
Laneyand NotAutomatic is a pin in this sense?09:52
juliankYes, NotAutomatic changes the default pin to 1 for the repo09:53
Laneyright, so the phasing would make NotAutomatic useless, not sure about that09:53
juliankWell09:53
juliankNo09:53
juliankIf it's phased to 100%, it's still pinned to 109:54
juliankNotAutomatic would make phasing useless, you could say, except well, phasing still works if you manually pin up the packages you are interested up, or the entire repo09:55
juliankBut phasing doesn't make NotAutomatic useless, as it only pins down stuff not-for-you to 1, but never actually pins something up over the configuration.09:55
LaneyI see, > didn't express that concept to me09:56
juliankyeah09:56
LaneySo you can pin it to do your phasing testing, or something09:56
juliank> was really ?:09:56
juliankwell still bad explanation09:57
juliankIf we could make proposed notautomatic for hirsute+1 that'd be great09:58
juliankIt needs changes in a bunch of places, but it shouldn't be crazy09:58
LaneyAges ago a bunch of that work was done for backports, so it wouldn't be starting from scratch09:59
Laneye.g. setting the value in the Release file, buildds ignoring it for package builds10:00
juliankIt would make SRU verification procedure a lot easier for normal users10:00
LaneyAnd we wouldn't get people on devel mangling their systems as frequently as we do now10:00
Laneywell, it'd be even more of a you get to keep both halves situation10:01
juliankI'm not sure if phasing works with autopkgtests, this needs to be tested10:02
LaneyThe SRU instructions might even be able to tell you how to use apt to install only that SRU, and update-manager could display them unchecked maybe10:02
Laneycould be nice10:02
Laneygo argue for getting this on the list :>10:02
juliankbecause if phasing overrides a pin-this-package-up I think this might break autopkgtest, so it would be nice to get some proposed packages to test what happens10:02
juliankLaney: I think for stable releases, there's some argument to be made for having time-based phasing for proposed (10% per day or so), and then users who add proposed effectively opt into a fast track of updates, but it's still way less worse than it is now10:04
juliankI kind of also would love a point-release repo that only ever gets updated on point releases10:05
julianklike it's a snapshot of updates at point release time :D10:06
juliankyou can mix it with -security10:06
LaneyI dunno, I think the way we have the process set up now it fits better as a pocket for manual testers to opt in to using, and with phasing we would use -updates more like that10:06
Laneyunless we were to collect and make much more use of metrics from proposed updates10:06
Laneybut I'm not on the SRU team am I :-)10:06
juliankLaney: I can't keep track of who is on what team :D10:07
juliankLaney: Seems like unsecure apps are blocked again and I can't auth to gmail smtp server10:09
Laneyjuliank: dunno what you're talking about, you think I'm on IS now? :P10:15
juliankLaney: Nah, I notified IS, but it appears the SMTP password stopped working10:16
LaneyI don't use gmail but does it use per-app passwords?10:17
juliankLaney: not really10:21
cjwatsonjuliank: We aren't going to have Launchpad set it automatically.  ~ubuntu-archive is free to set something up to tweak overrides automatically if they want10:55
cjwatson(aside from what Seb etc. said)10:55
Laneycjwatson: the API has what we'd need already?10:57
cjwatsonLaney: phased-updater already uses the API10:57
cjwatsonIt's true that you can't easily get the override in there the second something gets accepted into -proposed.  ~ubuntu-archive has plenty of cron jobs though ;-)10:58
Laneyah you mean that part, sorry, I was thinking of the NotAutomatic side10:58
cjwatson(I'm not sure it's a good idea)10:58
cjwatsonRight, that's not in the API10:58
Laneybecause the thread juliank just started on devel10:58
cjwatsonI'm just catching up on messages10:58
juliankNotAutomatic I want to do next cycle10:59
juliank:D10:59
mwhudsonthat sounds like it would save me time enabling proposed and scoring it down in all my lxds and vms11:02
Laneylet's hope juliank can get management on board with the idea :>11:03
Laneyhuh we got the same bug like 5 times in that c-m email11:48
tewardsil2100: got a few minutes for me to boucne stuff off you?14:33
teward(nonpriority)14:33
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubiquity (focal-proposed/main) [20.04.15.3 => 20.04.15.4] (core)15:08
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: python-apt (focal-proposed/main) [2.0.0ubuntu0.20.04.3 => 2.0.0ubuntu0.20.04.4] (core, i386-whitelist)15:23
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-oracle [amd64] (xenial-proposed) [4.15.0-1064.71~16.04.1]15:26
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: sssd (groovy-proposed/main) [2.3.1-3ubuntu2 => 2.3.1-3ubuntu3] (ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-server)15:47
sil2100teward: hey! hm hm, what is it about? Since I'm right now in 20.04.2-spree ;)16:16
sil2100I might only have some cycles later, if anything16:17
tewardis about that python3-cffi thing Studio wanted me to poke at, not a priority as it's SRU-eyes-needed :P16:17
tewardso no worries, focus on your spree.16:17
tewardif it were mission critical i'd tack on a note to Mark saying "Hey this stuff's critical I need to steal a few people for critical review"  ;)16:18
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted python-apt [source] (focal-proposed) [2.0.0ubuntu0.20.04.4]16:34
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubiquity [source] (focal-proposed) [20.04.15.4]16:45
Laneyah man I wanted to slip some commits into ubiquity17:00
Laneyit's not too late right ¬_¬17:00
rbalintsil2100, Laney i see https://code.launchpad.net/~rbalint/autopkgtest-cloud/+git/autopkgtest-cloud/+merge/395911 merged, but the retriggered tests don't seem to run on big instances: https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/m/mysql-connector-c++/focal/s390x17:20
rbalintis there manual deployment step that's needed?17:20
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: skalibs [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [2.10.0.1-1] (no packageset)17:22
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: skalibs [s390x] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [2.10.0.1-1] (no packageset)17:23
Laneyyes there is17:24
rbalintLaney, could you please deploy later master?17:24
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: kodi-pvr-octonet [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [4.1.0-2+ds1-1] (no packageset)17:25
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: kodi-pvr-octonet [amd64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [4.1.0-2+ds1-1] (no packageset)17:25
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: skalibs [amd64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [2.10.0.1-1] (no packageset)17:26
Laneyin a bit, calls17:27
Laneyrbalint: done17:32
rbalintLaney, thanks, retrying!17:34
rbalintLaney, now since we got rid of the cowboy, could deployment be automatic?17:35
rbalintone less thing to do :-)17:36
Laneyif someone does it, we need to know when the config files change and send a SIGHUP to the workers if they have17:36
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: skalibs [arm64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [2.10.0.1-1] (no packageset)17:37
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: skalibs [armhf] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [2.10.0.1-1] (no packageset)17:37
Laneyor make the workers inotify on their config and reload themselves17:37
rbalintLaney, i think the SIGHUP would be better, in case multiple files are used17:38
Laneynot sure what you mean there17:39
Laneyanyway either would work17:39
Laneya bit differently for the upcoming branch since the config comes from juju config there17:39
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: skalibs [riscv64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [2.10.0.1-1] (no packageset)17:50
sil2100Oh, damn, didn't run the manual deployment step as I thought it's not manual17:56
sil2100I think Bileto spoiled me17:57
sil2100Sorry about that17:57
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted kodi-pvr-octonet [amd64] (hirsute-proposed) [4.1.0-2+ds1-1]20:07
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted skalibs [amd64] (hirsute-proposed) [2.10.0.1-1]20:07
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted skalibs [armhf] (hirsute-proposed) [2.10.0.1-1]20:07
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted skalibs [riscv64] (hirsute-proposed) [2.10.0.1-1]20:07
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted kodi-pvr-octonet [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed) [4.1.0-2+ds1-1]20:07
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted skalibs [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed) [2.10.0.1-1]20:07
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted skalibs [arm64] (hirsute-proposed) [2.10.0.1-1]20:07
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted skalibs [s390x] (hirsute-proposed) [2.10.0.1-1]20:07
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted cclive [amd64] (hirsute-proposed) [0.9.3-0.2]20:08
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted cclive [armhf] (hirsute-proposed) [0.9.3-0.2]20:08
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted digimend-dkms [amd64] (hirsute-proposed) [10-1]20:08
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted metadata-cleaner [arm64] (hirsute-proposed) [1.0.0-1]20:08
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted metadata-cleaner [riscv64] (hirsute-proposed) [1.0.0-1]20:08
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted cclive [arm64] (hirsute-proposed) [0.9.3-0.2]20:08
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted metadata-cleaner [amd64] (hirsute-proposed) [1.0.0-1]20:08
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-anyio [amd64] (hirsute-proposed) [2.0.2-1]20:08
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted cclive [riscv64] (hirsute-proposed) [0.9.3-0.2]20:08
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted metadata-cleaner [armhf] (hirsute-proposed) [1.0.0-1]20:08
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted cclive [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed) [0.9.3-0.2]20:08
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted hyperspy [amd64] (hirsute-proposed) [1.6.1-1]20:08
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted metadata-cleaner [s390x] (hirsute-proposed) [1.0.0-1]20:08
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted cclive [s390x] (hirsute-proposed) [0.9.3-0.2]20:08
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted metadata-cleaner [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed) [1.0.0-1]20:08
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: execline [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [2.7.0.0-2] (no packageset)21:40
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: execline [s390x] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [2.7.0.0-2] (no packageset)21:41
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: execline [amd64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [2.7.0.0-2] (no packageset)21:41
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: execline [arm64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [2.7.0.0-2] (no packageset)21:43
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: execline [armhf] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [2.7.0.0-2] (no packageset)21:45
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: execline [riscv64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [2.7.0.0-2] (no packageset)22:03
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: ubuntu-budgie-meta [arm64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [0.72] (personal-fossfreedom, ubuntu-budgie)22:53
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: ubuntu-budgie-meta [armhf] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [0.72] (personal-fossfreedom, ubuntu-budgie)22:56
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: kissfft [amd64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [131+git20201106.cc862cb-1] (no packageset)23:33
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: orphan-sysvinit-scripts [amd64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [0.06] (no packageset)23:33
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: qbs [s390x] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [1.18.0-3] (no packageset)23:36
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: uhttpmock [amd64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [0.5.3-1] (i386-whitelist)23:37
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: qbs [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [1.18.0-3] (no packageset)23:41
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: kissfft [riscv64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [131+git20201106.cc862cb-1] (no packageset)23:49
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted execline [amd64] (hirsute-proposed) [2.7.0.0-2]23:54
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted execline [armhf] (hirsute-proposed) [2.7.0.0-2]23:54
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted execline [riscv64] (hirsute-proposed) [2.7.0.0-2]23:54
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted execline [arm64] (hirsute-proposed) [2.7.0.0-2]23:54
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted execline [s390x] (hirsute-proposed) [2.7.0.0-2]23:54
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted execline [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed) [2.7.0.0-2]23:54
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted kissfft [amd64] (hirsute-proposed) [131+git20201106.cc862cb-1]23:55
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted kissfft [riscv64] (hirsute-proposed) [131+git20201106.cc862cb-1]23:55
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted orphan-sysvinit-scripts [amd64] (hirsute-proposed) [0.06]23:55
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted uhttpmock [i386] (hirsute-proposed) [0.5.3-1]23:55
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted kissfft [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed) [131+git20201106.cc862cb-1]23:55
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted uhttpmock [amd64] (hirsute-proposed) [0.5.3-1]23:55
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted kissfft [s390x] (hirsute-proposed) [131+git20201106.cc862cb-1]23:55
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted uhttpmock [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed) [0.5.3-1]23:55
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted uhttpmock [s390x] (hirsute-proposed) [0.5.3-1]23:56

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