[00:01] <tomreyn> these common nvidia graphics chipsets depend on proprietary drivers. And while Canonical has improved support by integrating those drivers into desktop installers, they don't get loaded by the installers themselves, so they depend on nouveau's rather limited support (for lack of documentation, and support by nvidia for a proper open source driver).
[00:03] <Sven_vB> what's the best way in focal to run a script whenever a certain bluetooth device connects? do we have something like btupdown?
[00:04] <sarnold> Sven_vB: if you've got the device handy, try running udevadm monitor, then connect / disconnect the device and see if you get udev alerts
[00:04] <sarnold> s/alerts/events/
[00:04] <Sven_vB> will do, thanks!
[00:05] <Sven_vB> that's odd. it registers as a USB event. probably because the antenna is connected via USB.
[00:06] <user217_> Sven_vB, btmon  ?
[00:07] <Sven_vB> oh nice idea.
[00:07] <Sven_vB> seems it needs root though.
[00:09] <Sven_vB> bluemon-client looks good
[00:11] <ExcessiveAggro> Evening
[00:31] <bobdobbs> To anyone who has been following my questions: my issue seems to be gone after updating mysqld from the default version that comes withe 20.04 repo ( mariadb version 10.3 ) to 10.05. I used maria's own repo.
[00:32] <sarnold> nice
[00:38] <Sven_vB> from its man page, bluemon-client sounds like it's exactly what I want. but how does it work? my attempts so far: http://paste.debian.net/plainh/4aaea568
[00:38] <Sven_vB> (Bluemon client version 1.4 on Ubuntu focal)
[00:39] <sarnold> $ BT_ID='80:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx'
[00:39] <sarnold> $ bluemon-client --verbose --btid="$BTID" --upcmd='echo hi' --downcmd='echo cu'
[00:40] <sarnold> note the underscore
[00:40] <Sven_vB> whoops
[00:41] <sarnold> --verbose-b also looks kinda funny
[00:41] <Sven_vB> yeah that mistake came from editing
[00:42] <Sven_vB> however, same silence for bluemon-client --verbose -b 80:...:BC -u 'echo hi' -d 'echo cu'
[00:42] <sarnold> dang
[00:44] <Sven_vB> considering the bogus complaints about argument syntax, I guess it might be somewhat buggy still.
[01:06] <gartt>  Using safe graphics mode, I was able to install ubuntu. However, upon the rebooting after successful installation, I get lines through the Lenovo splash screen. I'm guessing this is due to my Nvidia P620 graphics card. Is there a way I can install drivers for it immediately after installation or a way to boot the new installation in safe graphics mode?
[01:06] <sarnold> \o/
[01:07] <sarnold> once booted, 'ubuntu-drivers install' should probably do the right thing
[01:08] <sarnold> I'm not sure if the 'rescue mode' boot menu entry will get you past boot, but it seems plausible
[01:08] <gartt> sarnold: Ah, but for proprietary nvidia P620? Wouldn't ubuntu have done this on its own if that were the case?
[01:09] <sarnold> gartt: my hope is that it's standard-ish nvidia things that nvidia's usual drivers will support.. if it doesn't work out, then maybe that install pdf can help, I can't recall now if I saw video things in there or not
[01:11] <gartt> sarnold: And to access the CLI after the installation such as by hitting ctrl alt F1 for example, that will apply to the installed ubuntu or the live ubuntu from the ISO?
[01:12] <sarnold> gartt: it should work in both, I hope
[01:13] <gartt> Err, wouldn't it be for the live ubuntu not the installed one?
[01:13] <sarnold> try ctrl+alt+f2 or ctrl+alt+f3 if ctrl+alt+f1 doesn't appear to do anything, I think the default X may have moved from 7 to 1
[01:13] <gartt> ok
[01:55] <gartt> sarnold: You mean to try ubuntu-drivers install as soon as the installation finishes before rebooting into the new installation?
[02:00] <sarnold> gartt: you may need to 'chroot /target' first, but yeah, that's my hope :)
[02:07] <oerheks> 390 and up should support that card https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/132530/en-us
[02:10] <gartt> So I suppose I just mount /dev/nvme0n1p2 /mnt/newubuntu  and then chroot /mnt/newubuntu to work inside my new installation on the HDD?
[02:15] <sarnold> gartt: it may still be mounted on /target, but if not, that might do it, yeah
[02:15] <sarnold> untermensch: any chance you can fix your connection?
[02:55] <ducasse> gartt: depending on what you want to do, you might need to bind mount some pseudofilesystems, or use systemd-nspawn
[03:31] <donofrio> how do I heal from this? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/PzZPYn9P2H/
[03:33] <lotuspsychje> donofrio: tryed a sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade?
[03:34] <sarnold> donofrio: those hash sum mismatches are usually caused by rubbish http proxies. are you running an http proxy yourself? is your ISP doing transparent proxying in front of you? are you using a vpn service that may be doing transparent proxying in front of you?
[03:35] <donofrio> no proxies, I had to run fsck on the volume and this is the result?
[03:36] <sarnold> hmmm, I'd hope that apt would just silently drop and re-fetch lists that look broken
[03:36] <sarnold> after all a zero-byte file is not very useful :)
[03:36] <donofrio> me too
[03:36] <donofrio> agreed
[03:38] <sarnold> the dep11 things, I'm a lot less sure about; deleting the apt config file that downloads those things is one of the first things I do when I see those being downloaded, I don't use the gui software installer thing so downloading a dozen megabytes of icons isn't super-useful for me
[03:38] <donofrio> not using gui
[03:38] <donofrio> as the paste shows
[03:39] <sarnold> the question is, do you *never* use the gui? if so, you can delete /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50appstream and probably those will go away :)
[03:39] <sarnold> if you do use the gui, better to just leave it alone
[03:39] <sarnold> I dunno how it handles if the icons are missing
[03:39] <sarnold> but that won't address the hash sum mismatches, I don't think
[03:39] <donofrio> ubuntu 20.04.01 fwiw
[03:39] <donofrio> yah don't belive it will as well....
[03:39] <sarnold> you could try switching to an https archive -- then http proxies can't mess with your data
[03:40] <donofrio> so edit sources.list?
[03:40] <Bashing-om> donofrio: MergeLists are a working tool of apt, part of the way it keeps track of which packages are in which repositories. It's the gears of a text-based database that apt relies upon. When corrupted, they can be safely deleted. Apt will recreate them during the next apt update. A possiblle fix >>.
[03:41] <sarnold> donofrio: yeah -- pick an 'https' entry from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[03:42] <Bashing-om> donofrio: ' sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf ; sudo mkdir -pv /var/lib/apt/lists/partial ; sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf ; sudo mkdir -pv /var/lib/apt/lists/partial ; sudo apt update ; sudo apt upfrade ' .
[03:43] <Bashing-om> donofrio: Yukkie nad paste ^ lemme redo.
[03:43] <Bashing-om> bad*
[03:43] <donofrio> that worked
[03:44] <donofrio> it's pulling down updates now...
[03:47] <Bashing-om> donofrio: All is good then :D
[03:48] <donofrio> yes, thank you
[03:53] <donofrio> is there a fan control for Lenovo?
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> donofrio: there used to be a fancon snap, but i think they removed it
[03:57] <donofrio> oh ok, I'm no fan of snaps....just my own bias
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> donofrio: maybe with psensors
[03:59] <Bashing-om> donofrio: There used to be a companion for fan control in lm-sensors .
[03:59] <Bashing-om> !info lm-sensors focal
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> that
[04:28] <Mr_Singh> Anyone suggest me best presentation making software or package for ubuntu
[04:28] <Mr_Singh> Similar like microsoft Power Point
[04:31] <Mr_Singh> Is there anything more rich in features than Libre Office Impress on Ubuntu ?
[04:32] <Mr_Singh> Anyone please
[04:36] <sarnold> Mr_Singh: hah, 'more rich' ..
[04:36] <sarnold> Mr_Singh: I've used magicpoint, in the mgp package, it's decidedly *fewer* features though..
[04:37] <sarnold> Mr_Singh: latex beamer package is popular, but that's a vastly different kind of thing entirely
[04:37] <Mr_Singh> more rich in Features
[04:37] <Mr_Singh> lol
[04:37] <sarnold> but I like em both way more than libreoffice's presentation thingy, or google docs' presentation thingy
[04:38] <Mr_Singh> Google doc is best
[04:38] <Mr_Singh> Actually it's google slides
[04:39] <Mr_Singh> but I want on board software for my ubuntu 18.04
[04:39] <Mr_Singh> I don't like libre office impress
[04:41] <tomreyn> maybe you like "onlyoffice" better.
[04:42] <tomreyn> or collabora
[04:42] <Mr_Singh> tomreyn : Thank you for suggestion I will check this soon :)
[04:42] <sarnold> oh, collabora is a good idea
[04:43] <sarnold> firefox tells me I've even heard of onlyoffice before, too. heh.
[04:43] <Mr_Singh> I think we need to develop a rich software for ubuntu similar like Power Point
[04:44] <Mr_Singh> Anyone interested ; lol ;)
[05:14] <moonfmdesire> Hi, I have emails stored (backed-up) on my local drives as inbox format and want to upload them to email servers for an IMAP configuration. My email client is Thunderbird. I used import/export tools ng but receive "Impossibile to import in this folder (imap or newsgroup type)"
[05:14] <moonfmdesire> I also tried to copy folders to local drives, but the emails will still not populate the servers.
[05:15] <moonfmdesire> Also tried drag and drop of folders and uploading directly to email webmail client
[05:15] <moonfmdesire> And also tried different email clients like Evolution, Kmail, Claws, and Sylpheed
[05:16] <moonfmdesire> It seems the hardest thing in the world is to drag my emails to a server
[05:16] <moonfmdesire> Went on Thunderbird IRC and received 0 response in several days
[05:17] <moonfmdesire> Then tried different email hosting providers and the word they used is 'impossible' to move emails from local drives to servers
[05:18] <moonfmdesire> Surely the problem of migrating emails between servers is solved?
[05:31] <bipinsingh061> Hey ?
[05:32] <bipinsingh061> I have used ubuntu 20.04 before , it was a not so fast but ok , recently I got SSD installed on my laptop, and installed ubuntu 20.10 on laptop , its very slow , very laggy
[05:32] <moonfmdesire> bipinsingh061, How much RAM do you have?
[05:33] <bipinsingh061> 4GB
[05:33] <moonfmdesire> Maybe upgrade your RAM
[05:33] <bipinsingh061> I have used 20.04 before it was all fine
[05:33] <moonfmdesire> Depending on what apps you use, you may require more
[05:33] <bipinsingh061> but now its extremely sloe
[05:33] <moonfmdesire> You might need a re-install then
[05:34] <Bashing-om> bipinsingh061: I too have 4 Gigs of ram - I find xubuntu to perform admirably on this system.
[05:34] <bipinsingh061> I see a lot of animations , when I type switch between windows
[05:34] <bipinsingh061> is there a way I can disable it ?
[05:34] <moonfmdesire> bipinsingh061, Perhaps LXDE
[05:34] <moonfmdesire> Something lighter
[05:35] <moonfmdesire> How old is your machine?
[05:35] <bipinsingh061> I have used LXDE before it was good ,
[05:35] <bipinsingh061> 2 years
[05:35] <moonfmdesire> Something is not right
[05:35] <moonfmdesire> I was figuring a ten year old machine, at least
[05:35] <bipinsingh061> so now , I want LXDE and complete remove the GNOME , and other graphics stuff
[05:35] <moonfmdesire> That means you must have ddr4 RAM
[05:35] <bipinsingh061> how do I do it
[05:35] <bipinsingh061> yes
[05:36] <moonfmdesire> apt-get install xubuntu-desktop or lubuntu-desktop
[05:36] <moonfmdesire> reboot and before you login, switch profiles
[05:36] <moonfmdesire> But your problem seems different
[05:36] <moonfmdesire> I have had this lagginess too, that you describe
[05:36] <bipinsingh061> is it because its 20.10 ?
[05:37] <moonfmdesire> I have 16 gisg on my laptop, an SSD and a good processor
[05:37] <moonfmdesire> A re-install cleaned out the issues
[05:37] <moonfmdesire> not the best move, but it worked
[05:37] <bipinsingh061> even when I play a YT video , while its playing it shows a loading bar
[05:37] <moonfmdesire> bipinsingh061, That sounds like internet speed
[05:37] <bipinsingh061> no
[05:37] <moonfmdesire> nothing to do with local drives
[05:38] <moonfmdesire> bipinsingh061, Are you torrenting?
[05:38] <moonfmdesire> That could slow your system down
[05:38] <bipinsingh061> when I open terminal using ctrl+alt+t , it takes like 1.5 seconds to load
[05:39] <bipinsingh061> so what after I install lubuntu ?
[05:39] <moonfmdesire> Maybe Xubuntu instead
[05:39] <bipinsingh061> how do I remove g-nome and all other stuff ?
[05:39] <moonfmdesire> How about drivers?
[05:39] <moonfmdesire> Wait
[05:40] <moonfmdesire> There should be a panel for proprietary drivers
[05:40] <moonfmdesire> Maybe not all your drivers are installed
[05:41] <bipinsingh061> you mean "Additional drivers" app ?
[05:41] <moonfmdesire> Yeah
[05:41] <moonfmdesire> Check that
[05:41] <bipinsingh061> ok wait a sec
[05:41] <moonfmdesire> Sometimes if the right graphics drivers are not installed, THAT will slow your machine down
[05:41] <moonfmdesire> A LOT
[05:42] <moonfmdesire> Especially videos
[05:42] <moonfmdesire> yowza
[05:42] <bipinsingh061> it shows no properteiry drivers are in use
[05:42] <moonfmdesire> See if you can get some, let it check
[05:42] <bipinsingh061> no additional drivers available
[05:42] <moonfmdesire> ugh
[05:42] <moonfmdesire> You have an AMD or NVIDEA?
[05:42] <moonfmdesire> or INtel?
[05:42] <bipinsingh061> intel
[05:43] <moonfmdesire> bipinsingh061, https://software.intel.com/content/www/us/en/develop/topics/graphics-linux-drivers.html
[05:44] <moonfmdesire> I use NVIDEA and AMD hardware and do pro video work. Drivers are a major pain.
[05:44] <moonfmdesire> I have to use proprietary
[05:44] <moonfmdesire> But i think Intel graphics have it easier in Linux
[05:44] <moonfmdesire> Intel plays a little nicer
[05:45] <bipinsingh061> how do I know pci id ?
[05:45] <tomreyn> lspci -knn | grep -A3 VGA | nc termbin.com 9999
[05:46] <moonfmdesire> bipinsingh061, I do lspci
[05:46] <moonfmdesire> but tomreyn knows better
[05:47] <tomreyn> intel doesn't need another graphics driver, the proper one is already open source, comes pre-installed with ubuntu. the same goes for amd.
[05:47] <bipinsingh061> https://termbin.com/y471
[05:47] <bipinsingh061> output of lspci -knn | grep -A3 VGA | nc termbin.com 9999
[05:48] <moonfmdesire> tomreyn, Yes and no
[05:48] <tomreyn> An Intel CPU of the "Skylake" generation with integrated graphics, Intel HD Graphics 520. PCI ID is 8086:1916
[05:48] <moonfmdesire> tomreyn, If you are doing pro video you need proprietary for opencla
[05:49] <moonfmdesire> Even for Blender
[05:49] <bipinsingh061> there's no option for ubuntu 20.10 in os
[05:49] <bipinsingh061> should i go for 20.04 ?
[05:49] <tomreyn> moonfmdesire: you can do that with mesa's igd, but i guess you may get better results with the proproetary overlay, yes
[05:50] <tomreyn> bipinsingh061: what are you looking at?
[05:50] <moonfmdesire> bipinsingh061, yes
[05:50] <moonfmdesire> bipinsingh061, I see the drivers, it is listed
[05:50] <moonfmdesire> Just put in 1916 in the field
[05:50] <moonfmdesire> '1916'
[05:51] <moonfmdesire> tomreyn, I have DaVinci Resolve and it performs a GPU check before running
[05:51] <moonfmdesire> Also Lightworks and Blender, all check is my drivers are installed
[05:51] <bipinsingh061> I see a bunch of linux commands should I be executing them ?
[05:51] <moonfmdesire> bipinsingh061, Yeah
[05:52] <moonfmdesire> bipinsingh061, I do that for my AMD and Nvideia machines
[05:52] <tomreyn> what are you referring to?
[05:52] <moonfmdesire> Installing graphics drivers
[05:52] <moonfmdesire> Does Intel have no proprietary drivers?
[05:53] <tomreyn> you dont need, and don't want, to install intel graphics drivers
[05:53] <moonfmdesire> tomreyn, Okay, then bipinsingh061 System is significantly slow
[05:53] <moonfmdesire> He has a two year old laptop with an SSD
[05:53] <moonfmdesire> He has  4 gigs of DDR4 ram
[05:53] <tomreyn> maybe there's just some completely different problem?
[05:53] <moonfmdesire> He should be humming along, but is not
[05:53] <tomreyn> journalctl -kb | nc termbin.com 9999
[05:54] <tomreyn> ...posts a kernel log
[05:54] <moonfmdesire> tomreyn, Yes, it could be another problem, but when he mentioned slow video playback, and it is NOT internet speed elated
[05:54] <moonfmdesire> related
[05:54] <moonfmdesire> I figured, GRAPHICS DRIVERS!!!
[05:54] <bipinsingh061> https://termbin.com/3f1i
[05:54] <moonfmdesire> bipinsingh061, listen to tomreyn and do as he says
[05:54] <moonfmdesire> yeah
[05:54] <bipinsingh061> ok
[05:55] <tomreyn> HP Laptop 15q-bu0xx/8328, BIOS F.24 09/25/2017 << if this is just two years old then you should look for a bios upgrade sometime
[05:55] <tomreyn> (likely unrelated, though)
[05:56] <bipinsingh061> is it because its ubuntu 20.10 , will it be better if I go for 20.04 LTS ?
[05:57] <bipinsingh061> or maybe switching to lxde solve the problem ?
[05:58] <moonfmdesire> bipinsingh061, Do a BIOS upgrade
[05:58] <bipinsingh061> how do I do that ?
[05:59] <moonfmdesire> bipinsingh061, First, try to install the graphics drivers before you reinstall anythin
[05:59] <bipinsingh061> okay then ?
[05:59] <moonfmdesire> bipinsingh061, https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c00007682
[05:59] <moonfmdesire> You will want option three, unless you dualboot
[06:00] <moonfmdesire> bipinsingh061, I have used MANY an HP laptop
[06:00] <moonfmdesire> bipinsingh061, After you reinstall graphics drivers, reboot
[06:00] <moonfmdesire> or install, rather
[06:03] <tomreyn> ignore the part about installing graphics driver
[06:03] <tomreyn> I've finished reviewing the kernel log. i don't see serious problems. there is "i915 0000:00:02.0: [drm] *ERROR* Atomic update failure on pipe A " to the end, which *could* point to a mainboard firmware problem.
[06:03] <bipinsingh061> okay
[06:04] <bipinsingh061> are you sure BIOS upgrade will solve the problem ?
[06:04] <tomreyn> whom are you talking to now, bipinsingh061 ?
[06:04] <bipinsingh061> tomreyn you.
[06:05] <tomreyn> i'm not sure that a bios upgrade will solve any problem. it can.
[06:05] <tomreyn> sometimes readong the changelog / release notes helps
[06:06] <moonfmdesire> tomreyn, BIOS upgrades are always good, but I noticed significant performance improvement when graphics drivers are upgraded.
[06:07] <moonfmdesire> Except that my INTEL graphics experience is limited
[06:08] <tomreyn> right, that's a completely different story than nvidia
[06:09] <moonfmdesire> Torvalds was quite displeased with Nvidea
[06:09] <tomreyn> bipinsingh061: the bios upgrade is available here https://support.hp.com/gb-en/drivers/selfservice/swdetails/hp-15q-bu000-laptop-pc/15551416/swItemId/ob-265616-1
[06:10] <bipinsingh061> okay , I will check it
[06:10] <bipinsingh061> so I just download it and reboot , right ?
[06:12] <moonfmdesire> You have to load the driver on a USB stick and then enter BIOS
[06:12] <moonfmdesire> bipinsingh061, Do you know how to enter BIOA?
[06:12] <moonfmdesire> BIOS
[06:13] <bipinsingh061> I don't exactly remember what key I am supposed to press while starp
[06:13] <moonfmdesire> There should be a message when you boot
[06:13] <moonfmdesire> Like f12 or f10 or f8
[06:14] <bipinsingh061> yes
[06:14] <moonfmdesire> I think it is f10
[06:14] <moonfmdesire> according to HP documentation
[06:14] <bipinsingh061> ok I will figure out that
[06:15] <moonfmdesire> FIRMWARE management or BIOS management
[06:15] <tomreyn> F2 to bring up startup menu according to the link you posted earlier
[06:15] <bipinsingh061> okay
[06:16] <tomreyn> that's after pressing escape repeatedly
[06:16] <bipinsingh061> yes I know that
[06:17] <bipinsingh061> anyway thank you , I will be back if I have problems
[06:17] <tomreyn> it's "Step 3: Update the BIOS" of "Update the BIOS manually from a USB Flash drive (outside of Windows)" of the guide moonfmdesire had posted.
[06:18] <moonfmdesire> "You will want option three, unless you dualboot"  <--- as iterated earlier
[06:18] <moonfmdesire> tomreyn, Do you know anything about restoring email back ups?
[06:18] <moonfmdesire> to servers in an IMAP configuration?
[06:42] <TJ-> moonfmdesire: IMAP server will read whatever format the MTA uses; e.g. Maildir or mbox
[06:43] <TJ-> moonfmdesire: so if the mailboxes/directories are restored and IMAP server config remains the same it would access the emails
[06:43] <moonfmdesire> TJ-, I used Thunderbird import export ng and get "Impossibile to import in this folder (imap or newsgroup type"
[06:44] <moonfmdesire> It ought to be the easiest thing in the world, but companies that provide email hosting say, "impossible", which is weird
[06:44] <TJ-> moonfmdesire: oh, that's an email *client* not server. I thought you meant you are restoring the MTA stored email
[06:45] <moonfmdesire> One company uses roundcube and I was able to upload my inbox file, but only 1 of 1.5 gig
[06:45] <moonfmdesire> They boosted the size restriction to five gigs for upload, same results
[06:46] <moonfmdesire> weird
[06:47] <moonfmdesire> Moving your inbox to a server ought to be drag n drop
[06:49] <moonfmdesire> Emailing hosting providers and they respond absurd replies of 'sending limits' not addressing the question at all.
[06:50] <moonfmdesire> When not using the word, 'impossible'
[06:53] <daysun> uhm.. hi? My name is daysun.. and... my server has unattended updates enabled and ... for some reason (has rebooted I see due to updates).. it now has some kind of desktop interface instead of being a CLI server. That was unexpected, right?
[06:57] <TJ-> daysun: weren't you playing about with a headless remote desktop a few days ago, or was that someone else?
[06:58] <daysun> that was someone else
[07:14] <ridgeracer> hi peeples-id like to know if deja-dup makes backups by default (eg when updating the kernels) and if so how can i view all backups made thus far on my system
[07:16] <ridgeracer> am running ubuntu 20.04.01 k.8.0-40-generic
[07:16] <ridgeracer> 5.8.0-40-generic
[07:19] <ridgeracer> i read the manual and a webpage all gud ty
[09:07] <daysun> systemctl status portsentry doesn't show whether it's enabled or not. Unusual. Is systemd just behind a version (newer versions shows it) or any idea what's going on?
[09:07] <daysun> "/etc/init.d/portsentry; generated". some kind of sysv-compatibility thing?
[09:19] <daybreak> whenever i ssh to to my remote ubuntu machine, my login gets logged in /var/log/wtmp. But when i try to run my ansible playbook with same ssh credentials, it won't get logged in wtmp. How is this possible?
[09:24] <daysun> daybreak: possibly using two different methods to log in? One using a key, the other via user/password?
[09:26] <daysun> daybreak: an ssh connection may also start different services. ssh-ing via your console usually invokes bash on the other side, while connecting to some kind of media server over ssh may get ssh to load a different service.
[09:43] <TJ-> daybreak: ssh with a command doesn't start a login shell, no interactive session
[09:46] <daysun> and hence probably what's NOT happening is a logging PAM-module
[10:15] <td34> hello, does anyone know if Ubuntu repo mirror scans it's repositories using AV scanner?
[10:19] <lotuspsychje> a question for the #ubuntu-mirror guys perhaps
[10:19] <td34> thanks.
[10:19] <lotuspsychje> #ubuntu-mirrors sorry
[10:20] <td34> i didn't realise that was a room.
[10:20] <lotuspsychje> when repo problems arise, the mirror team can debug
[11:50] <eeos> hi everybody! I am tryong to have all the users on the local network (6 clients) with the same bookmarks on firefox, brave and chrome. Is that feasible?
[11:50] <ixdap> eeos, interesting. why? will they be able to edit?
[11:51] <ixdap> eeos, and do you mean all users see the same bookmarks, or just that each user sees the same bookmarks across browsers?
[11:52] <ixdap> and is that "chrome" or "chromium"?
[11:56] <eeos> ixdap: I would like them not to be able to edit the first section of the menu (with all the system links) but to be able to edit a part of it .... is it feasible
[11:57] <eeos> ixdap: all users see the same bookmarks on one part of the toolbar
[11:57] <eeos> ixdap: and both chrome and chromium (raspberry users have chromium or firefox).
[11:59] <eeos> ixdap: is it better to shift to centralised user management?
[12:08] <eeos> ixdap: of course if the split bookmarks (general, personal) does not work, then better to have only the general menu blocked for all users.
[12:40] <uDdHsaWwk> ubuntu 20.10 ; I have graphical smileys in my terminal (when running irssi for example) ... not sure how to disable
[12:40] <uDdHsaWwk> (gnome, gnome-terminal, ubuntu mono font - in other words: stock)
[12:41] <uDdHsaWwk> 😞
[12:48] <polando> Hey, my friend is asking for help with ubuntu, his teacher is asking him to put 4 different workspaces/desktops in the corners of the screen. Is that even possible to do that?
[13:21] <legreffier> uDdHsaWwk: i think it fallback to whatever font supporting emoji is available. irssi might have some script in order to replace emojis-unicodes to ascii smileys.
[13:23] <legreffier> uDdHsaWwk: the actual solution would be to delete the font package containing them... but then you will get display problems whenever you use emoji, not just in irc.
[13:24] <legreffier> you can even set irssi so it doesn't support unicode (but this will be a problem depending on your channel's language)
[13:42] <whichpatrick> I am trying to address a bad superblock issue on my 20.04 server but it is mounting root in rw when booting into emergency mode and I'm unable to remount it as the device is in use
[13:43] <whichpatrick> is there some other way to force ro mode? I am editing the GRUB linux line with systemd.unit=emergency.mode
[13:46] <ansikt> Im having trouble to maximize the speed on my ethernet connection. I have gigabit connecton from the ISP but speedtest doesnt give me more than around 650 Mbit/s. Same cable, same router gives me around 970 Mbit/s on a windows laptop. I have tried switching the NIC driver from 8169 to 8168, which gave me about 50Mbit/s more and installed tuned and
[13:46] <ansikt> set it to network-throughput profile which bumped it up about 100Mbit/s as well. The hardware is kind of low-end and outdated and maybe this is the best I can get, but is there anyway I could try and optimize the configuration to get the speed up? Running Ubuntu 20.04, AMD E350 CPU with integrated realtek NIC.
[13:47] <Johnnyboy> any idea why my sounds work on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS   kernel 5.6.0-1042 oem but not on 5.8 or 5.10.9 generic? i have Dell XPS 17 (9700)
[14:02] <lotuspsychje> Johnnyboy: we saw you getting help yesterday, did you tryed some steps since?
[14:02] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:03] <Johnnyboy> lotuspsychje I mean originally the sounds did not work at all. I got the sounds work with the 5.6...oem kernel, I am just wondering why it is not working on the newer ones
[14:04] <lotuspsychje> Johnnyboy: so you started at 5.4 kernel and then moved to 5.6 oem to fix your sound?
[14:08] <Johnnyboy> lotuspsychje Ill tell what I did exactly: fresh install from download ubuntu website did not work. Did not work after dist upgrades, I am expecting this to put me at 5.8. I followed steps in here and installed 5.6 oem https://www.reddit.com/r/Dell/comments/husu3r/how_to_get_fully_working_audio_in_ubuntu_2004_on/?sort=new   . Did not work.
[14:08] <Johnnyboy> Upgraded to 5.10.9, did not work. Updated dell firm ware from 1.3 to 1.63, sounds didnt work on 5.10.9 or 5.8, but they now work on 5.6 after switching to sof via alsamixer
[14:11] <lotuspsychje> Johnnyboy: did you affect to an existing bug, or file a new one yourself?
[14:13] <Johnnyboy> lotuspsychje I have not, I can file one if you can point the location for me, have not filed bugs before. This problem seems quite common with xps 17 though
[14:14] <lotuspsychje> Johnnyboy: i see your reddit thread mentions bug #1878194 can you see first if this is you too?
[14:19] <Johnnyboy> Well my problem is that there were no sounds at all, not via 3.5mm plug, not speakers, he seems to have sound with certain profile. I have not tried blutooth. He has xps 13 (7390), I have xps 17 (9700). He is using 5.4 kernel, which is now outdated (?), but I can confirm it did not work for me on fresh install, but my firmware was 1.3 on dell side.
[14:19] <Johnnyboy> I have not tested 5.4 with 1.63 dell firmware, my kernel got was updated already to 5.8.
[14:19] <Johnnyboy> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1270442/no-sound-on-xps-17-9700   google has a lot of these
[14:20] <Johnnyboy> so there seems to be a fix via arch linux packages for 5.4
[14:20] <Johnnyboy> in dell 17 (9700)
[14:21] <lotuspsychje> Johnnyboy: ok well, when you install ubuntu and something doesnt work by default i would advice to file a new !bug then
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> Johnnyboy: you can start your bug with make an account or login to launchpad, then ubuntu-bug pulseaudio from terminal
[14:22] <Johnnyboy> okay thanks lotuspsychje
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> Johnnyboy: add a title of your bug + description/story of what happens
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> Johnnyboy: also make sure you file it from the kernel it doesnt work by default on
[14:34] <zetheroo> I did a release upgrade on 4 systems (Ubuntu 16.04 -> Ubuntu 18.04/20.04) and on all systems the motd is now messed up (aka. not the original). Two of us have been trying to figure out why it's different but have come up with nothing. Any ideas here?
[14:36] <zetheroo> On the system upgraded to 18.04 the motd is duplicated, whereas on the 3 systems upgraded to 20.04 the motd is now only a one liner with the "Last login" info.
[14:45] <Intelo> Vscode webrun and ubuntu error. Any clue? Unable to open 'sample-folder': Unable to resolve resource memfs:/sample-folder.
[14:47] <murthy> BluesKaj: hi
[14:48] <BluesKaj> hi murthy, LTNS, how's things?
[14:48] <murthy> BluesKaj: I am good, ty. How are you. Nice to talk to you again
[14:48] <Intelo> Do I need to install memfs ?
[14:49] <murthy> BluesKaj: Are you busy now?
[14:51] <BluesKaj> murthy, I'm fine thanks...what's your issue ?
[14:53] <murthy> BluesKaj: My friend hosts weekly radio show for yale university. He is having issues with using audio hardware on his Host ubuntu studio
[14:53] <murthy> brb
[14:59] <murthy> Panther: welcome
[14:59] <Panther> 'lo
[15:00] <Panther> ty murthy
[15:00] <murthy> Panther: BluesKaj is one of the nicest person you can find on IRC
[15:00] <murthy> BluesKaj: Panther is the friend of mine I was talking about
[15:00]  * Panther greetz
[15:02] <BluesKaj> murthy, thanks for that, but I'm not real familiar with ubuntu server audio setups. I think the "jack" connectivity is probly what is mostly used there iirc.
[15:02] <BluesKaj> err ubuntu studio, rather
[15:02] <murthy> I remember you never liked pulseaudio
[15:03] <murthy> you are ok with pipewire?
[15:03] <murthy> Panther: can you tell little bit about your issue?
[15:03] <BluesKaj> yeah, It's anecessary ebil now that Firefox relies on it for web audio
[15:03] <BluesKaj> evil
[15:04] <BluesKaj> haven't tried pipewire yet
[15:04] <Panther> I have gotten Jack and Pulseaudio/ALSA to play nicely together. It takes a little tinkering, but it's not that horrible.
[15:05] <murthy> Panther: ya
[15:05] <BluesKaj> i don't use jack since i don't need it
[15:05] <Panther> The issue I have is that I wanna run Ableton, either with wine, or in the VM in the windows guest.
[15:06] <Panther> I know there is a Linux-ized version of it.. Bitwig, but it is not really what I 'want' to run.
[15:06] <murthy> Panther: you said Ubuntu studio is not detecting the usb interface properly on Ubuntu studio?
[15:06] <Panther> Ubuntu studio does detect it./
[15:07] <murthy> Panther: so vlc is not able to detect it?
[15:07] <Panther> One thing that is driving me crazy is something else... the right mouse click is flakey as hell :(
[15:07] <Panther> I am not using VLC :)
[15:07] <murthy> on Ubuntu studio?
[15:08] <murthy> BluesKaj: Can installing Kubuntu-desktop on Ubuntu studio create some issues?
[15:08] <Panther> Yeah.... I want the context menu that the right mouse click brings up, but it doesn't happen very often, or it disappears right away, etc....
[15:09] <murthy> Panther: you can pastebin your issue here?
[15:11] <Panther> The issue is that I want to run the windows DAW, Ableton on this Ubuntu Studio 20.04 host in some way. :)
[15:12] <BluesKaj> murthy, plasma/kde desktop is now defualt on ubuntu studio 20.10
[15:12] <murthy> Is there any open source Linux alternative for Ableton?
[15:12] <murthy> oh wow
[15:12] <murthy> BluesKaj: also are you still using kubuntu or migrated to neon
[15:13] <Panther> I installed the kde-plasma desktop on here, and switched the display manager to sddm.
[15:13] <murthy> Panther says bitwig is ok  but its closed source
[15:14] <murthy> Panther: what was your Ubuntu studio version?
[15:14] <Panther> is
[15:14] <Panther> :)
[15:14] <murthy> that last LTS version?
[15:15] <BluesKaj> murthy,I'm still on Kubuntu, testing 21.04 atm
[15:15] <Panther> 20.04 5.4.0-59-lowlatency kernel.
[15:15] <Panther> Yeah, the last LTS is 20.04
[15:15] <murthy> BluesKaj: oh wow
[15:15] <murthy> BluesKaj: I jumped ship 8 months back
[15:16] <BluesKaj> murthy, to neon?
[15:16] <murthy> yep kde neon and its awesome
[15:16]  * Panther likes CDE :P
[15:17] <murthy> Panther: can I share your issue for you?
[15:17] <murthy> I mean copy paste what you told me via pastebin?
[15:17] <Intelo> how to have memfs?
[15:17] <Panther> If you want to.. the issue is that I want to run a windows DAW on a Linux host. :)
[15:18] <murthy> first you said vlc didn't detect the usb interface of ableton
[15:19] <Panther> I am kinda in the middle of doing something else with the sound this morning, so  wasn't totally prepared to troubleshoot this issue right now. However, I stopped that for the time being.
[15:19] <murthy> ok
[15:19] <BluesKaj> Panther, heve you explored linux audio suites, an obvious question , but I have to ask :-)
[15:19] <Panther> I never really tried to use vlc.. I am not sure why I would even want to.
[15:23] <murthy> Panther: but vlc has to detect the audio interface
[15:23] <Panther> I don't use vlc for anything.
[15:23] <murthy> because linux shows it as an audio device
[15:23] <Panther> Other than watching movies. :)
[15:23] <murthy> no I asked you to try with vlc just for testing
[15:23] <Panther> BluesKaj, yeah, I have used a number of linux audio progs... I am a big fan of the CALF plugins.
[15:23] <BluesKaj> ok, gott a go foe a few mins
[15:23] <Panther> I don't need to test anything with vlc.
[15:23] <Panther> ok
[15:23]  * Panther waves
[15:23] <murthy> ok see you later
[15:23] <murthy> have a nice day
[15:23] <Panther> Bus 001 Device 024: ID 1235:8200 Focusrite-Novation Scarlett 2i4 USB
[15:23] <Panther> See? The device is detected just fine, and I can use it with the other programs I have.
[15:23] <Panther> The audio setup has controls for it, and it is working OK.
[15:35] <Starship8012> Hi, I am running a website on my ubuntu server. The memory usage is around 75%. The load average from htop says 0.09 0.22 0.29. Is this server too small?
[15:36] <Starship8012> Only has 1 core and 2G of memory
[15:46] <monsterco2> is there a remote desktop?
[15:46] <monsterco2> to ubuntu?
[15:46] <monsterco2> using anydesk and it's not working well for whatever reason
[15:46] <monsterco2> so trying to get direct simple connection
[15:48] <Panther> I used to use Nomachine.
[15:48] <monsterco2> free?
[15:48] <monsterco2> this will be ubuntu to ubuntu remoting
[15:49] <Panther> afaik, it is free for non-commercial use.. however that is determined...
[15:50] <monsterco2> needs ports opened or works like teamviewer?
[15:53] <leftyfb> monsterco2: why not just use ssh?
[15:53] <Panther> I never had any problems with it, but it will likely depend on how your network security is set up.
[15:53] <leftyfb> monsterco2: also, if it's direct, why the need to "open ports"?
[16:02] <monsterco2> with ssh one can see GUI?
[16:03] <leftyfb> not exactly. What is the purpose of this "remote" machine though? Do you need a GUI?
[16:03] <monsterco2> and move mouse
[16:03] <monsterco2> one programmer working on a system where a supervisor just observes
[16:03] <monsterco2> PC is with supervisor, programmer remotes in
[16:04] <leftyfb> monsterco2: just use VNC then
[16:05] <monsterco2> available for ubunto using apt?
[16:05] <ogra> "ssh -X"  can surely attach to a running GUI to run graphical apps remote (and nomachine is essentially ssh -X with a compression protocol on top)
[16:05] <leftyfb> monsterco2: yes
[16:05] <leftyfb> ogra: that doesn't sound like it's what they're looking for. Also, won't work when things move exclusively to wayland
[16:06] <ogra> well, wayland is still a bit out i'd guess
[16:06] <ogra> at least as a default
[16:07] <leftyfb> monsterco2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Servers
[16:07] <monsterco2> ogra - thanks yeah that works but then supervisor doesn't see the screen
[16:08] <ogra> ah, right, i missed that supervisor bit
[16:08] <leftyfb> monsterco2: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/sharing-desktop.html.en
[16:10] <ogra> perhaps epoptes migth be an option as well .. https://epoptes.org/
[16:11] <ogra> (though that sits on top of things like VNC/RDP or ssh -X)
[16:21] <monsterco2> leftyfb, vino is vnc? so open ports right?
[16:21] <monsterco2> I just did apt install but don't see the package
[16:22] <monsterco2> I like something simple like vnc so it's a direct connection and no thrid party company like teamviewre for the connection
[16:22] <leftyfb> monsterco2: see the link I posted above
[16:22] <leftyfb> monsterco2: also, by default Ubuntu does not have any firewall rules in place, so if you are on the same network, you do not need to open any ports
[16:23] <monsterco2> not on same network
[16:23] <monsterco2> over internet
[16:23] <leftyfb> monsterco2: ok, so that is a whole different ballgame
[16:24] <neteffect> hello
[16:25] <leftyfb> monsterco2: I would suggest using "remmina" as your VNC client as it supports connecting to a VNC server through an ssh tunnel. I would get ssh setup and tested between these devices and then try setting up the ssh tunnel through remmina. Opening VNC over the internet is pretty insecure
[16:25] <monsterco2> ah ssh tunnel
[16:26] <monsterco2> and remina is vnc?
[16:27] <nunya_> when I open gnome-software Installed tab nothing shows. I waited 5 minutes. After Googling for a while I found a work around sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome-software I would rather not have to reinstall gnome-software every time I want to see what I have installed. Does anyone know how to remedy this?
[16:27] <neteffect> how do i start the software center?
click on start menu and type software The application should be ;listed in results or type gnome-software in terminal
[16:30] <pavlos> neteffect: there is an app, looks like an orange suitcase, ubuntu software
click on start menu and type software The application should be ;listed in results or type gnome-software in terminal
[16:32] <neteffect> tyvm
[16:44] <nunya_> Never mind sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade seems to have done it. I'll see if it works when I restart.
[16:58] <dougl> good morning
[17:05] <monsterco2> I can ssh to an ubuntu desktop locally but refused from over internet
[17:06] <monsterco2> is there some firewall setup in fresh install or sshd config I have to change?
[17:06] <monsterco2> I use user/password for ssh
[17:09] <monsterco> I can ssh to an ubuntu desktop locally but get refused from over internet
[17:09] <monsterco> . Is there some firewall setup in fresh install or sshd config I have to change?
[17:09] <monsterco>  I use user/password for ssh
[17:10] <nerdthatnoonelik> hello
[17:15] <leftyfb> monsterco: you need to setup port forwarding on your router
[17:17] <DJones> !portfroward | monsterco
[17:17] <DJones> !portforward | monsterco
[17:25] <monsterco> I did port forward already
[17:26] <monsterco> there is no other firewall or sshd config option that block internet connection requests but not local area requests?
[17:27] <leftyfb> monsterco: you probably don't have the port forwarding setup correctly. Check the local ip of the pc, make you sure can ssh to it from another machine on the same network using the same local ip. That is the ip that should be forwarded on your router to port 22
[17:28] <pavlos> monsterco: you could try from the outside: nc publicip 22 if the response is SSH, ssh is listening
[17:36] <monsterco> pavlos, tried it and no response whatsoever
[17:37] <pavlos> monsterco: I think the portfwd rule is not ok, you should have an option in the router to portfwd port 22 from the outside the the internal ip of your desktop (eg. 192.168.1.104)
[17:38] <pavlos> monsterco: can you paste a screenshot of the rule in the router?
[17:45] <daysun> is there any big difference between unattended-upgrades and just writing a cron for a script that runs apt-get upgrade etc?
[17:45] <pavlos> monsterco: example: any ssh from the outside is redirected to an internal host, 10.0.0.47 https://imgur.com/a/MdzKCuY
[17:56] <monsterco> pavlos, that is done already
[17:57] <monsterco> what should I see with nc command?
[17:59] <pavlos> monsterco: in my case I see: SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_7.6p1 Ubuntu-4ubuntu0.3
[18:00] <monsterco> k cool thanks
[18:39] <dust> can someone please update the repo for https://freedroid.org/
[18:41] <daysun> dust: update it from the source if you need the newest
[18:42] <dust> daysun, how about to keep the repo up to date?
[18:46] <daysun> dust: it's complicated. but most LTS dists have outdated repos
[18:47] <daysun> dust: they don't update individual packages because they may not work well together. They release a bunch of packets at once instead that are tested to work well together. That's why there are different versions of ubuntu.
[18:48] <dougl> dust, congrats you have been nominated to keep the repos up to date
[18:48] <daysun> dust: there are several dists with "Rolling releases" that have the latest package of pretty much everything in their repo
[18:48] <dust> its 20.10 with backports... so i should get the newest stuff...
[18:49] <daysun> dust: nope. their backported  version of nodejs is too many versoins behind, for example. Someone gave me a bitch "new flashy things syndrome" comment without knowing wtf they're talking about.
[18:50] <daysun> so I had to add a node PPA to my repo list.
[18:51] <daysun> there was a time when I needed a new version of a network manager to support a new protocol and new hardware, and a similar retard nerded out with the typical "shiny new things syndrome" comment.
[18:51] <daysun> But just ignore those guys, they've usually just discovered linux and think that they're experts.
[18:52] <daysun> dust: the repo is "outdated" for a reason, but security patches should all be there. There are pros and cons of that. One pro is stability. A LTS will run flawlessly during its lifetime.
[18:53] <daysun> I have never had any problems with rolling releases though. But if you've got a multi million dollar enterprise, you rather go for stability above all.
[18:53] <dust> id 20.10 lts?
[18:54] <daysun> no, it has a 9 month "lifetime"
[18:54] <daysun> 20.04 has a 5 year lifetime
[18:54] <daysun> 20.10 is more like testing.
[18:54] <dust> so what u re then talking about lts?
[18:54] <daysun> I think it stands for "long time support"
[18:55] <dust> i know for what it stands and the reasons behind it
[18:55] <daysun> it means that if you have an ubuntu version with LTS, you can expect its repo and everything to be maintained for those 5 years. What they maintain is security updates and stability updates.
[18:55] <dust> but u know what an actual repo for the actual 20.10 means?
[18:55] <daysun> I don't understand what you're asking.
[18:57] <daysun> unattended-upgrades seems to lack a timer.. so what's "scheduling" it?
[19:04] <dust> daysun, just that the repo gets and update of https://freedroid.org/
[19:05] <agvantibo66> Can anyone recommend any tips to boost gnome-shell
[19:05] <daysun> I don't understand what you're asking about.
[19:05] <daysun> agvantibo66: boost?
[19:05] <dust> FreedroidRPG is an open source role playing game
[19:06] <daysun> why would they maintain that in the repo
[19:06] <daysun> in the ubuntu repo. that doesn't make much sense.
[19:06] <daysun> that's something that you should get form the official source.
[19:06] <dust> it is in the repo but its a 4 year old version of freedroid daysun
[19:07] <daysun> dust: most maintainers of ubuntu (and the people working at canonical) are adults, I don't think they want to spend their time prioritizing some virtual online rpg magic-fantasy game.
[19:07] <daysun> life is way too short for that
[19:08] <daysun> download and play it from the official source
[19:08] <agvantibo66> daysun Make it more efficient
[19:08] <dust> daysun, u have no idea what u re talking about... and if u represent ubuntu then no wonder ppl look after alternatives...
[19:09] <agvantibo66> Like some obscure experimental setting that lowers CPU usage
[19:09] <daysun> I empathize, I don't represent nobody.
[19:09] <dust> daysun, so why are u then talking?
[19:09] <agvantibo> dust, daysun just wants to help
[19:10] <dust> agvantibo, help with making user to push them to other distros instead of solving problems? it dosnt help but makes things only worse
[19:11] <daysun> he's not making much sense anyway, and not willing to empathize with the maintainers but are still asking why they aren't maintaining a package. So I'm giving up.
[19:11] <daysun> I told you. Download it from the official source. I also explained to you why it's not up to date (gave you several correct explanations).
[19:12] <Maik> !discuss | dust
[19:12] <daysun> I've also suggested getting a rolling release if you want your packages to be the freshest. I've also explained that there are cons and pros with rolling releases and LTS distributions. And so forth. You got your ears filled with dicks.
[19:12] <dust> daysun, u re part of the problem and not the solution...
[19:13] <Maik> dust: please take the discussion elsewhere since your question is not a ubuntu issue
[19:13] <dust> Maik, is the repo an ubuntu issue?
[19:13] <daysun> I am not part of anything. I am just explaining to you why things are like they are and what options you have. That got nothing to do with me.
[19:14] <daysun> Since you asked, mind you.
[19:14] <daysun> can't spoon-feed you beyond that.
[19:14] <daysun> unless you pay me for it.
[19:14] <Maik> dust: all you do is rant about a outdate piece of software
[19:15] <daysun> cough. "software".
[19:15] <dust> Maik, which is part of the repo... the reason i asked for an update... nothing more and nothing less...
[19:16] <Maik> dust: maybe there's a reason it's not updated anymore
[19:16] <Maik> ask the devs
[19:16] <Maik> dust: or look if there's a up to date snap version available
[19:17] <daysun> agvantibo: gnome-shell is just a virtual tty, it shouldn't consume any memory or CPU really. That's up to the programs executed in the shell.
[19:18] <agvantibo> daysun You are confusing gnome-terminal and gnome-shell
[19:18] <dust> Maik, a snap version dosnt exist of it
[19:18] <Maik> then you're out of luck
[19:20] <daysun> agvantibo: yes I am. I would try to tweak window manager settings and similar if you're experiencing performance issues. xfce4 has some similar, where you can turn off the composer an disable some visual effects and so forth.
[19:21] <daysun> agvantibo: which I would look for among some sort of settings panel and similar.
[19:22] <daysun> If that's non-existent, you may have to config such things manually in configuration files.
[19:24] <agvantibo> daysun Yeah, that's what I was looking for - experienced people telling me that I have to tweak some /etc/gjs/obscure.conf to make gnome3 faster
[19:26]  * phillipsjk decides to install pulseaudio after finding the proposed replacement "wirepipe" requires strange libraries not in the Ubuntu repos.
[19:27] <phillipsjk> Would settle for bulding a alsa-aware version of Chromuim. During testing something grabbed the sound card exclusively (not sure what).
[19:28] <agvantibo> phillipsjk: fuser /dev/dsp to see what it was
[19:28] <phillipsjk> thanks agvantibo
[19:29] <phillipsjk> Working at the moment after a restart.
[19:50] <Speedwagon> exit
[19:50] <Speedwagon> whops
[20:10] <RoseBus> how can i make a favorites icon link to a .sh file
[20:12] <RoseBus> nvm it was for intellij and i just realized it has "create desktop entry"
[20:14] <sarnold> yay :)
[20:56] <Legousk> Hello all, I'm trying to make this (https://github.com/PixlOne/logiops/wiki/Configuration) work with my MX Master 3, but it is not recognizing the keys I put in there for some reason that I do not understand.
[20:56] <Legousk> Here is my logid.cfg file
[20:56] <Legousk> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SYscxdPkNt/
[20:57] <Legousk> Which is just for testing, I tried to fill in some different CID numbers but it doesn't really react to anything
[20:58] <sarnold> Legousk: do you get any error messages?
[20:58] <sarnold> Legousk: the semicolons in this are very confusing.. some closing brackets get them, but not all?
[20:58] <Legousk> https://imgur.com/a/4brg4zM
[20:59] <Legousk> This is what I get when I run the logid thingy
[20:59] <Legousk> (I am very much a beginner with Ubuntu)
[20:59] <sarnold> Legousk: also, there's some parenthesis in this file, are they supposed to be brackets, too? or are the parens used in different contexts?
[21:00] <Legousk> sarnold: to be honest I don't know. I copied this from the example they provide in the github
[21:00] <sarnold> ah, that's promising
[21:01] <Legousk> (Maybe I took the wrong turn here, if there is a better way to setup the buttons on my mouse I'm willing to go there)
[21:04] <sarnold> Legousk: sorry, I've got no more ideas :(
[21:04] <Legousk> How I understand what I made is that the key that is mapped by 0x56 (which is mapped because I get it from the INFO from logid in my terminal) should do PAGEUP when pressed.
[21:04] <Legousk> Hmm
[21:04] <Legousk> Ok, do you have another program that is able to do the same for me?
[21:04] <Legousk> How to personalize the buttons of the mouse
[21:05] <Legousk> Or do you know I mean
[21:07] <floogy> Hi, I got a corrupted zfs mirror member. But I'm unable to import the pool in a degraded state to replace the disk. zpool hangs on zpool import zfspool despite these messages on zpool import -f
[21:07] <floogy>  status: One or more devices contains corrupted data.
[21:07] <floogy>  action: The pool can be imported using its name or numeric identifier.
[21:07] <floogy>    see: http://zfsonlinux.org/msg/ZFS-8000-4J
[21:09] <floogy> If I disable the "UNAVAIL corrupted data" disk (external USB drive), then I get  action: The pool cannot be imported due to damaged devices or data.
[21:09] <floogy>    see: http://zfsonlinux.org/msg/ZFS-8000-5E
[21:09] <floogy>  config:
[21:09] <floogy> 	zfspool                            UNAVAIL  insufficient replicas
[21:09] <floogy> 	  usb-SAMSUNG_HD400LD-0:0-part2    UNAVAIL
[21:09] <floogy> 	  ata-ST31500341AS_9VS0BAGK-part3  ONLINE
[21:11] <sarnold> Legousk: someone had success with the 'piper' package, you can skim it at https://github.com/libratbag/piper/
[21:12] <sarnold> floogy: can you pastebin your zpool status output?
[21:12] <Legousk> Great, didn't see that one yet, will give it a try. Thanks!
[21:13] <floogy> I can't get it. it will freeze zpool. But zpool import -f works sort of.
[21:13] <floogy> Okay. It's because I have to import it first, but then zpool will freeze: ~$ sudo zpool status
[21:14] <floogy> no pools available
[21:16] <sarnold> floogy: ugh :(
[21:17] <sarnold> floogy: the handful of lines of what you *did* paste sure looks like you don't actually have a mirrored vdev, but it's hard to tell if it actually made it through correctly or not
[21:19] <floogy> samold https://pastebin.pl/view/436f036d
[21:20] <floogy> If I enable the USB external HD400LD, I get a different output for zpool import -f
[21:21] <floogy>  status: One or more devices contains corrupted data.
[21:21] <floogy>  action: The pool can be imported using its name or numeric identifier.
[21:21] <floogy>    see: http://zfsonlinux.org/msg/ZFS-8000-4J
[21:21] <floogy> But if I try to import it, zpool hangs.
[21:22] <spirytus> I was wondering what is the best or preferred way to create permanent folder in /var/run/ that will be persistent between boots since it is by default in tmpfs?
[21:23] <sarnold> floogy: btw most irc clients let you use the tab key to complete usernames
[21:24] <sarnold> floogy: compare your output against mine http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fxd5kcPktP/
[21:25] <sarnold> floogy: note one pool has 'raidz1-0' near the drives, the other has mirror-0 mirror-1 mirror-2 near the drives -- those are redundant vdevs
[21:25] <floogy> samold, I'm currently using empathy (normally xchat) tab doesn't work. sorry for not marking/highlight you.
[21:26] <sarnold> floogy: your output doesn't have a 'mirror-0' there -- I'm pretty sure these were *two* independant vdevs, and you have no redundancy
[21:26] <sarnold> floogy: ugh what horrible client :) the font is clearly bad but I didn't realize it was *that* bad :(
[21:28] <floogy> yes, maybe. The  got the issue, that I corrupted the partition table. and I managed somewhat to recreate it without backup for the BTRFS system, but didn't succeed with the zfs member. Maybe therefore It lacks the vdev and mirror?
[21:29] <floogy> sarnold: Ah, I read samold, therefor tab didn't seem to work.
[21:30] <sarnold> spirytus: tmpfiles.d(5) is pretty handy for these things
[21:30] <blahboybaz> When I did an update/upgrade I got some warnings that I find alarming. I'm not sure what they mean but I did create a paste complete with the output and system information. https://pastebin.com/zgmxhRDR
[21:30] <blahboybaz> Does anyone know more about that?
[21:32] <sarnold> blahboybaz: try sudo apt install linux-firmware -- that might do the trick
[21:33] <sarnold> floogy: hmmm, so both drives are actually attached, plugged in, ready to go?
[21:34] <blahboybaz> sarnold: ok
[21:34] <sarnold> floogy: if both drives are attached.. try something like zpool import -d /dev/disk/by-id/  and see if zfs can find the devices again..
[21:35] <floogy> sarnold:  I'll reboot. I did change the partition type from solaris to linux and zpool import zfspool crashed or hangs again. See you. Maybe I have to format that partition or zero it out with dd first?
[21:35] <blahboybaz> sarnold: Its telling me I already have the latest
[21:35] <blahboybaz> if so, then why the warning?
[21:36] <floogy> sarnold: FreeBSD but maybe related: https://github.com/openzfs/zfs/issues/3107
[21:38] <floogy> sarnold: $ sudo zdb -e -p /dev/disk/by-id/ storage
[21:39] <floogy> zdb: can't open 'storage': No such file or directory
[21:39] <floogy> ZFS_DBGMSG(zdb) START:
[21:39] <floogy> ZFS_DBGMSG(zdb) END
[21:39] <sarnold> blahboybaz: is this a docker thingy? I think they configure dpkg to throw away a lot of files they think they won't need
[21:39] <blahboybaz> sarnold: it is not docker
[21:40] <blahboybaz> this is my base regular system
[21:40] <sarnold> blahboybaz: dang :/ do those files actually exist?
[21:40] <blahboybaz> $ sudo apt update $ sudo apt upgrade   is what got that output
[21:41] <sarnold> floogy: hrm :( your layout is *very* different from mine -- my laptop is zfs on luks, so it's vastly different, my larger server, I gave entire drives to zfs..
[21:42] <sarnold> floogy: fdisk -l reports "Solaris /usr & Apple ZFS" for the 'main' partition of those drives
[21:42] <floogy> Yes, it's uncommon to use partitions. But it worked.
[21:42] <blahboybaz> sarnold:  jake@newcreation:~$ file /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8125a-3.fw
[21:42] <blahboybaz> /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8125a-3.fw: cannot open `/lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8125a-3.fw' (No such file or directory)
[21:42] <blahboybaz> jake@newcreation:~$ sudo file /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8125a-3.fw
[21:42] <blahboybaz> /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8125a-3.fw: cannot open `/lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8125a-3.fw' (No such file or directory)
[21:42] <blahboybaz> That's the first file in the warnings
[21:42] <blahboybaz> says it aint there
[21:44] <floogy> sarnold: Something is wrong with $ sudo zdb -e -p /dev/disk/by-id/usb-SAMSUNG_HD400LD-0\:0-part2
[21:45] <sarnold> blahboybaz: *maybe* it's a usual part of using hwe kernels? I'm sorry, I'm not sure
[21:49] <blahboybaz> ok
[21:49] <blahboybaz> files do not seem to be there: https://pastebin.com/iWQB8h8T
[21:49] <blahboybaz> maybe someone has experienced this?
[21:50] <blahboybaz> I thought warnings were there to alert you to potential problems. I know that sometimes warnings appear that aren't really a big deal but is that the case with this?  Should I really be ignoring this?
[21:51] <blahboybaz> sarnold: I do appreciate you help tho
[21:51] <sarnold> blahboybaz: I wouldn't be surprised if it's fair to ignore if you haven't actually had problems
[21:52] <sarnold> afterall these firmwares are going to be needed only if you've actually got those specific devices
[21:52] <blahboybaz> hmm...
[21:52] <sarnold> I'm not sure how to find out which specific devices will try to load those specific files though
[21:52] <sarnold> I've done that kind of spelunking before and it's not super fun :)
[21:52] <blahboybaz> I never thought of that. I wonder if I do or not
[21:53] <sarnold> if things seem to work fine..
[21:53] <blahboybaz> no problem  - everything is still working so I'm sure its alright
[21:54] <sarnold> cool; thanks blahboybaz, I'm surprised I haven't seen this before if this is a standard consequence of using the hwe kernels, but I've not actually used them myself..
[21:56] <spirytus> sarnold :) Tx
[21:56] <blahboybaz> 👍
[21:58] <gartt> sarnold: I followed your advice for trying to fix the graphics card drivers for my Nvidia Quadro P620 about chrooting into my hard drive installed ubuntu installation from my live ubuntu flashdrive and using sudo ubuntu-drivers install. Is there any other step aside from exiting and unmounting? Just reboot and see if the hard drive ubuntu installation's graphics card works?
[21:58] <sarnold> gartt: I think I'd run a 'sync' by hand, just out of an abundance of being old :)
[21:59] <blahboybaz> Yeah, funny...  $ sudo lshw | grep i915
[21:59] <blahboybaz> configuration: driver=i915 latency=0
[21:59] <blahboybaz> something is there (just not the file in the warnings)
[22:00] <sarnold> different i915s will require different firmware files
[22:00] <gartt> sarnold: Thanks, I'll cross my fingers and see how the reboot goes :)
[22:00] <sarnold> gartt: I *really* hope this works :) this machine has been so frustrating and it's not even mine, lol
[22:02] <gartt> sarnold: Yeah, the thrill of my first workstation (and first computer I've bought in 18 years since I was a teenager) fades fast when you run into trouble :P But progress is being made
[22:03] <blahboybaz> Files are present but at a lower version "32.0.3" not "33.0.0"  so maybe the kernel is looking for a newer version when it isn't available?
[22:03] <blahboybaz> ah well.. its alright
[22:05] <sarnold> gartt: yeah... last year about this time I started setting up a new laptop, and the crazy frustration and $$$ involved in getting bloody 4k@60hz external monitor to work..
[22:11] <gartt> sarnold: Success! logged in and in the desktop environment of the ubuntu hard drive installation! Thank you very much for your help! It's much appreciated
[22:11] <sarnold> gartt: YES! :D
[22:11] <sarnold> gartt: so.... how's the network? :)
[22:11] <gartt> And I wrote everything down so I can help someone else on this in the future
[22:12] <gartt> sarnold: Oddly, the card worked fine even though the PDF from Lenovo said work was required in getting it set up. Maybe it's because I used an even later version of ubuntu on my last desperate attempt at this
[22:13] <gartt> Almost afraid to run the Software Updater, since everything's working perfectly after a few days of headscratching :)
[22:13] <sarnold> gartt: sweeeet -- so, 20.10, network works okay; live instance to run the ubuntu-drivers in the chroot to get graphics?
[22:14] <gartt> sarnold: Exactly, yes
[22:14] <sarnold> gartt: hah; ten years ago my brother and I spent ~three weeks getting a hackintosh system to work. it worked perfectly. and when we realized we were terrified to hit the 'update' button, that's wheh my brother realized he really just needed to spend the extra money for the mac. heh.
[22:15] <rory> https://open.spotify.com/track/3HMewTWHRtb7GY1hjG2kIw so this song was recorded with a dummy head binaural mic?
[22:15] <rory> wc
[22:16] <gartt> It's a satisfying feeling when you get something to work (especially if you learn something from it). I've installed LFS and stage 1 from gentoo years ago and have a slackware box but I'm still linux-newbish
[22:18] <neildugan> I used "nmcli" to find out that the nameservers being used are "servers: 192.168.128.1 192.168.1.1" .... when I do a "dig database.local" I get no respose... when I do a "dig database.local @192.168.128.1" ... I get the correct response ... anyone know why?
[22:19] <sarnold> gartt: heh yeah years on slackware were very educational, but I'm kinda glad to have it easy and lazy now
[22:19] <linuxmint> Hello, just confirming my install of a small no GUI OS. Ubuntu Server?
[22:19] <sarnold> linuxmint: yeah should be fine
[22:20] <linuxmint> sarnold: great, I'm going to install Docker on it.
[22:21] <gartt> sarnold: It's a great learning experience and one of my favorite distros. Ubuntu shines too in that stuff just works and even a newbie can get most things up and running, even people used to Apple/Windows
[22:21] <sarnold> gartt: yeah, both nice for different reasons :)
[22:22] <sarnold> linuxmint: docker, containerd, etc, whatever, they should all work okay
[22:24] <linuxmint> sarnold: thanks, I found this Ubuntu server? download? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[22:24] <linuxmint> I need an iso image
[22:25] <EriC^> linuxmint: that's the mini iso, it downloads it all from the net while installing
[22:25] <linuxmint> Oh, I can't do that. I need to rsync the iso from this computer, over to my hypervisor with a vm.
[22:25] <EriC^> it should work for your purpose, as long as you dont mind not using uefi
[22:26] <EriC^> ah
[22:26] <EriC^> better download the full server iso then
[22:27] <linuxmint> EriC^: Ok, I found this https://ubuntu.com/download/server
[22:28] <linuxmint> Download Ubuntu Server 20.04.1 LTS.
[22:28] <linuxmint> Graphics look cool...Puma and Gorilla :-)
[22:34] <EriC^> :)
[22:46] <floogy> sarnold: Do you know what kind of partition layout this is? Does it come from sfdisk?
[22:46] <floogy> /dev/sdk1                  63   390,700,799   390,700,737  83 Linux
[22:46] <floogy> /dev/sdk2         390,700,800   781,417,664   390,716,865  83 Linu
[22:47] <floogy> I found an older bootinfoscript. Maybe I can recover the partition in a better state with this information, and get the member working again?
[22:51] <sarnold> floogy: hmm I can't recall ever seeing a partition start on 63 :/
[22:52] <floogy> Currently it's partitioned this way /dev/sdh1              63 390711383 390711321 186,3G 83 Linux
[22:52] <floogy> /dev/sdh2       390711384 781422767 390711384 186,3G 83 Linux
[22:52] <leftyfb> !paste | floogy
[22:54] <isapgswell> why /boot/efi keep mounted after boot
[22:54] <floogy> Ah, I see. Its seperated by , In Germany we use . So it should look like this: /dev/sdk1                  63   390700799   390700737  83 Linux
[22:54] <isapgswell> ?
[22:56] <isapgswell> why /boot/efi keep mounted after boot?
[22:59] <jeremy31> isapgswell: is there a reason not to?
[23:13] <floogy> sarnold: Hold fingers crossed: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/R77KfkPFxd/
[23:14] <sarnold> floogy: looks promising
[23:14] <isapgswell> jeremy31 why expose grub to multiuser
[23:14] <isapgswell> ?
[23:15] <floogy> yeah! Got it back!
[23:15] <jeremy31> isapgswell: /boot/efi can't be changed without having the permissions
[23:16] <floogy> I manually adopted the partition table from that bootscript info (backup 2019)
[23:16] <isapgswell> jeremy31 enforce security after login, umount /boot/efi
[23:16] <floogy> Way better than just try to remember how it was ...
[23:16] <sarnold> floogy: dude! :D well done :)
[23:21] <floogy> sarnold:  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/j4Cw7wrTkT/
[23:21] <floogy> Looks good, for btrfs also
[23:34] <sarnold> floogy: *ten years* without a problem with striped vdevs? and one of the ids is 'usb' ? :) amazing :D :D :D
[23:34] <floogy> LOL
[23:35] <floogy> And it survived a corrupted partition table and fidling around with that without any clue, that it's stripe.
[23:36] <sarnold> yeah, I'm amazed :D
[23:38] <floogy> more luck than brains
[23:46] <shibboleth> are there plans to backport "not ancient" wpasupplicant/networkmanager onto bionic? wpa3, 11w
[23:54] <bitlan> hi, i have issue after upgrade ubuntu.. is stuck on initramfs https://i.imgur.com/qD0ksUH.png
[23:55] <bitlan> i tried run livecd  -> chroot ->  update-initramfs -a -k all, but without success
[23:56] <sarnold> bitlan: does dmesg work?
[23:57] <bitlan> i don't tried yet
[23:58] <bitlan> sarnold: https://i.imgur.com/2NlTY6K.png
[23:59] <bitlan> i have 2 disks sda and sdb
[23:59] <bitlan> but when i type  lvm pvs i don see sda (with system)