[00:01] <guiverc> No (hadn't seen it this morning), but thanks wxl 
[00:03] <guiverc> removed wxl
[00:03] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T140: Home page about us page blog template email optin placements] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T140#4092
[00:04] <wxl> thanks!
 *drops a binding cloose vote there*
[00:14] <kc2bez> u wat now?
 the ask ubuntu thread wxl linked to
 bug reports are offtopic on Ask Ubuntu
 and as a diamond moderator there I can instant-close it :P
[00:15] <kc2bez> ah, I follow now
[00:26] <wxl> @teward001 for a first time contributor, you might want to include a more friendly reason about WHY it was closed
[01:31] <guiverc> wxl, I added a comment  (almost tagged you, I would have if I'd seen ^discussion)  that I think will suffice
[01:31]  * guiverc adds re: askubu closed question & bug
 wxl: the reason already says - "Bug reports are offtopic"
 no need for a comment - the close reason reflects the reason for closure
[01:44] <teward> i'll add a comment
[01:44] <teward> but excuse me first while I silence a minor insurrection on another Ubuntu social media system
[01:58] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T58: consider minimal install] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T58#4093
[03:35] <The_LoudSpeaker> Welp! Missed the meet. I was awake till 3 but quasseldroid wasn't. 🙃
[03:35] <The_LoudSpeaker> Anyway. Nothing much from my side assort from the merge. 
[03:35] <The_LoudSpeaker> *apart
[04:07] <wxl[m]> <lubot "[telegram] <teward001> wxl: the "> > Closed. This question is off-topic. It is not currently accepting answers. 
[04:07] <wxl[m]> <teward "but excuse me first while I sile"> Aroooo?
[04:08] <teward> wxl: at the top it shows the close reason typically.  as for me silencing the insurrection we had some evil going on in the Ubuntu Hideout discord channel
[04:08] <teward> i had to... silence... some things
[04:08] <teward> people were fighting each other xD
[04:10]  * wxl[m] uploaded an image: tempFileForShare_20210121-200943.jpg (55KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/privacytools.io/oBALiacraMZZnXoHCEZrXKfl/tempFileForShare_20210121-200943.jpg >
[04:11] <wxl[m]> 🤷🏼‍♂️
[04:12] <wxl[m]> I didn't know we had a discord channel. I assume this was off topic?
[04:12] <wxl[m]> Oh hm this is off topic 🤣
[05:37] <RyuKurisu[m]> <lubot "[telegram] <kc2bez> Many distros"> As long as it is optional, because personally I prefer the letters.  But that is my 2¢ 🙂
[05:58] <wxl[m]> <RyuKurisu[m] "As long as it is optional, becau"> Yep! The default value is "true" and that results in letters
[05:58] <wxl[m]> I suspect null would work, too
[06:05] <teward> wxl[m]: thanks to you and the council for approving those DNS changes
[06:05] <teward> wxl[m]: it's not an official channel
[06:05] <teward> (the discord channel)
[06:05] <teward> it's community maintained, not governed by CC, etc.  And not suitable to be official with the people in it
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 discourse down, i'm working on fixing
[06:51] <wxl[m]> I presume related to the DNS change? 
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 actually I think i forgot to preconfigure CORS origins in Discourse
 i got us back to 'operational' and am configuring CORS origin points now
 because CORS is a pain if you do weirdness
 it protects cross site injection and origin points, but if you forget to add the CDN to the permitted list things explode
 oopsies
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 going back to 'working' - will dig into the CDN issues as things go forward
 got some testing to do on my test env to replicate the chaos here
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[19:10] <RyuKurisu[m]> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/01/corellium-got-ubuntu-linux-running-on-m1-macs-and-you-can-too/?amp=1
[19:13] <wxl> yeah i saw that too although offtopic
[19:13] <wxl> i'm slightly interested
[19:14] <wxl> the hardware is fascinating but i've already dealt with apple's walled gardens before and i'm over it
[19:17] <RyuKurisu[m]> Yeah sorry about that
[19:17] <wxl> no worries
[19:17] <wxl> now if you want to go buy one and tweak it so lubuntu is on it, that's on topic XD
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[20:01] <wxl> possibly offtopic but probably not: an interview with tsujan from last year https://tintaescura.com/interview-with-tsu-jan/
[20:24] <wxl> @RikMills when the Kubuntu Team packages direct from upstream (i.e. before Debian), do ya'll bother to update the Copyright for debian/*?
 Ideally yes, but in practice, not often
[20:28] <wxl> as i suspected. thanks :)
[21:13] <wxl> whether or not we need to it seems like no one does XD
[21:13] <wxl> throughout the project for that matter
[21:14] <wxl> looks like the libx11 bug to fix old pcmanfm, etc. from crashing may very well be getting SRU'd everywhere https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libx11/+bug/1782984
[21:15] <wxl> (it hasn't been converted to an SRU bug but it's been marked as affecting bionic, focal and groovy)
[21:58] <guiverc> did release-managers get notice of 20.04.2 being moved back to feb-4 ?  (sorry if I used wrong term)
[21:58] <wxl> no :/
[21:58] <wxl> could you update the testing page?
 wait what? It moved again?
[22:17] <guiverc> yep, bdmurray just confirmed it's feb-4 again
 okie dokie.
 I need to make a phab task and get some release notes going.
[22:27] <guiverc> wxl, if by testing page you meant https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/release-team/testing-checklist/ that was updated last night... it was that & PM from @leokolb that led to me noticing the feb-4 date change..
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[23:16] <wxl> guiverc: i meant https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/testing/ but it looks how it should
[23:18] <guiverc> :)  yeah 4-feb was initial date, was moved to 11-feb... recently back to initial date.. so likely worked out well for that doc :)