 what about the files caliel?
[01:03] <caliel> Fuseteam I am waiting ">>> Emerging (6 of 6) dev-util/android-sdk-update-manager-24.4.1::gentoo" and I'll try to connect via ssh
[01:07] <caliel> anyway - i cannot access anything
[01:07] <caliel> i have just created a folder "backup" in Documents folder
[01:07] <caliel> chmod 777 backup
[01:08] <caliel> then put every *.ogg in backup folder and chmod 777 backup/*
[01:08] <caliel> nothing in mtpfs
[01:09] <caliel> but I touch'd a file in the folder and I can access it on the phablet
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 I have an original BQ Aquaris M10 HD tablet which incorporates a MediaTek Mali GPU. It is running UBports UT OTA 15 and it works so well that my wife loves it! … Is OTA 15  exploiting the GPU in order to achieve such a smooth performance? … @dohbee
 @caliel [anyway - i cannot access anything], I sometimes need to unplug and replug my device before files show up on my laptop...
 Can we run Android studio in ubports?
 Ik silly question but still I want to know 😅
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 My nexus 5 is not connecting to my router - it does not see it on the network. It is picking up my homeplugs and my nieghbours router. What could be wrong?
[09:54] <ubptgbot> <トマセ ハrトゥンゲ> @dynasty17 [My nexus 5 is not connecting to my router - it does not see it on the network. I …], 5Ghz ? Mine will only connect to 2,4 Ghz
 I think it is 2.4ghz. It used to connect all the time. The homeplugs are all 2.4
[10:09] <ubptgbot> <トマセ ハrトゥンゲ> @dynasty17 [I think it is 2.4ghz. It used to connect all the time. The homeplugs are all 2.4], try switch to WPA or WEP  ;)
[10:16] <ubptgbot> <By brian All rights reserved> Can anyone help with no mobile data on a redmi note 7 I’ve added the correct apn details no luck has anyone had same issue stopping me from a daily driver
 @dynasty17 [My nexus 5 is not connecting to my router - it does not see it on the network. I …], Doesn't see 5 GHz?
 @DoraPC [Can we run Android studio in ubports?], The development environment for UT is Clickable
 My N5 works fine with both 5GHz and 2.4GHz networks.
 @alan_griffiths [My N5 works fine with both 5GHz and 2.4GHz networks.], Hmm. Could it be something as simple as range?
 @dynasty17 [My nexus 5 is not connecting to my router - it does not see it on the network. I …], Try renaming the access point?
 @dynasty17 [My nexus 5 is not connecting to my router - it does not see it on the network. I …], Did you set your router to limit the number of devices that can connect?
 @Stereofont [Did you set your router to limit the number of devices that can connect?], It is just the phone it seems. I think I got a dodge Nexus 5. All other wifi connections appear. I thought it might be a battery issue so I bought a new one as device kept switching off. New attery works fine but no wife connection to my router 😞😞
 @Stereofont [Did you set your router to limit the number of devices that can connect?], [Edit] It is just the phone it seems. I think I got a dodge Nexus 5. All other wifi connections appear. I thought it might be a battery issue so I bought a new one as device kept switching off. New battery works fine but no wifi connection to my rout
[11:08] <ubptgbot> er 😞😞
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 Is there a possibility UBuntu Touch for Doogee S95Pro?
 oh no
 @Stereofont [The development environment for UT is Clickable], oh no
 all devices need individual ports, which likely takes a year or so
 if you're good with android, linux, and like to have a go ... you'll have to make one yourself
 too bad i can't.  thanks
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[12:08] <caliel> good morning (ugt)
[12:09] <caliel> so I am still trying to access files with mtpfs - I have entered adb shell, files are there, the Document folder has 777 permissions on it, files in Document folder have 777 permissions on them - Still I cannot access files from mtpfs
[12:09] <caliel> any hint?
[12:12] <caliel> it would be kinda easier than adb pull
 @DoraPC [oh no], if you mean running android studio directly on UT, we can't no. the simple answer is it isn't packaged for ubuntu touch … the complicated answer is it isn't design to be convergent
 caliel: can check the permissions for the individual files?
 sometimes the folder is accessible but the files in it are not
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[14:58] <ubptgbot> <By brian All rights reserved> So I have a pixel 3 a I’ve installed Sargo android 9 enabled developer but ubports does. Not detect phone
[14:59] <ubptgbot> <By brian All rights reserved> In the software I add manually go though it fails
[14:59] <ubptgbot> <By brian All rights reserved> Then I have to reinstall android 9 again
[14:59] <ubptgbot> <By brian All rights reserved> Anyone have any idea
[15:00] <ubptgbot> <By brian All rights reserved> Adb devices shows in cmd prompt
[15:10] <ubptgbot> <By brian All rights reserved> I’m getting
[15:10] <ubptgbot> <By brian All rights reserved> Adb version 32 doesn’t match this client
[15:10] <ubptgbot> <By brian All rights reserved> 41
 Fwd from fredldotme: If you plan to give Ubuntu Touch another shot: There's a severe issue with receiving phone calls (some Android 9 devices have this problem, not only the Pixel 3a) after a day. The devel channel has a fix for that but it needs proper testing. So if you expect phone calls to work properly then make sure to install th
[15:55] <ubptgbot> e devel channel for now.
[16:03] <caliel> Fuseteam - I have checked the permissions for all my files - they are all 777 - I did a chmod 777 *.ogg
[16:03] <caliel> Fuseteam and I did a chmod 777 Documents too
[16:03] <caliel> I have pull'd the files using adb pull - but it's kinda weird I cannot access files from a mtfp mounted device
[16:04] <caliel> yes the folder is accessible but the files in it are not
[16:04] <caliel> anyway, I can touch a file and I find the file in the device
[16:25] <ubptgbot> <By brian All rights reserved> Anyone got a link to the best adb to use I’m using adb bridge but keeps failing
[16:49] <caliel> another question - how to block incoming calls / SMS?
 At the moment there is no mechanism. It has been discussed several times
[16:53] <caliel> Stereofont sorry I have installed UBPorts first time 2 days ago :-) I am a n00b
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 Don't apologise. I only know because I have been around a long time
 Does anyone know if Huawei P30 will run Ubuntu touch?
 check description
 huawei is unsupported
 Locked devices
 yep :(
 Fun fact. In the system, among the audio files there are sounds of pressing the screen, switching, and other actions in the system. Even the OS startup sound is there. But by strange coincidences, for some reason, these files are not used at all, it's strange why .... (Although the launch sound is very pleasant to the ear)
 @im_not_dead_seiwer [Fun fact. In the system, among the audio files there are sounds of pressing the …], There is even the OS shutdown sound ..... Something has become now interesting why these files are not used although they are
 @im_not_dead_seiwer [Fun fact. In the system, among the audio files there are sounds of pressing the …], Where are these?
 Lmao
 @amyosx [Where are these?], Unused sounds are stored in  … /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo  … There are mainly sounds of interaction with the system, but the most interesting for me are  … desktop-login.ogg - OS startup sound  … desktop-logout.ogg - OS shutdown sound …  window-slide.ogg - judging by my guesses should have been
[17:35] <ubptgbot> used when swiping fullscreen windows in desktop mode
 Hmmm
 Some are nice
 @im_not_dead_seiwer [Unused sounds are stored in  … /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo  … There are mainly …], Another funny moment is that the sounds of the call reset and the sound of waiting while the interlocutor picks up the phone are stored as separate files ... This means that they can be replaced with others and then durin
[17:40] <ubptgbot> g these actions there will be other sounds, which is both funny and strange
 @im_not_dead_seiwer [There is even the OS shutdown sound ..... Something has become now interesting w …], the same sound theme package was also used on Ubuntu on PCs, which did utilize some of those sounds. it doesn't necessarily make sense for them to be used on the phone, though
 @dohbee [the same sound theme package was also used on Ubuntu on PCs, which did utilize s …], You are right, but these sound files  … bell.ogg  … button-pressed.ogg button-toggle-off.ogg button-toggle-on.ogg  … hint that these files should have been used on the phone, because they are not in the PC version ... That is, in UT, t
[17:43] <ubptgbot> he audio response was originally planned, which was in Android systems, up to versions 8.1
 @dohbee [the same sound theme package was also used on Ubuntu on PCs, which did utilize s …], [Edit] You are right, but these sound files  … bell.ogg  … button-pressed.ogg  … button-toggle-off.ogg button-toggle-on.ogg  … hint that these files should have been used on the phone, because they are not in the PC version ... That is
[17:43] <ubptgbot> , in UT, the audio response was originally planned, which was in Android systems, up to versions 8.1
 @dohbee [the same sound theme package was also used on Ubuntu on PCs, which did utilize s …], [Edit] You are right, but these sound files  … bell.ogg  … button-pressed.ogg  … button-toggle-off.ogg  … button-toggle-on.ogg  … hint that these files should have been used on the phone, because they are not in the PC version ... That
[17:43] <ubptgbot>  is, in UT, the audio response was originally planned, which was in Android systems, up to versions 8.1
 what do you mean not in the PC version?
 you mean in ubuntu 20.04 or something?
 and i don't know where you are getting the "originally planned" part from
 @dohbee [you mean in ubuntu 20.04 or something?], Well, I'm currently using Ubuntu 14.04 LTS on my home PC and most of these files are not there (and UT, as we know, was originally based on Ubuntu 13)
 on the phone, haptic feedback is used. it was never planned to have audio play on button presses on UT
 @im_not_dead_seiwer [Well, I'm currently using Ubuntu 14.04 LTS on my home PC and most of these files …], 14.04 is not even supported any more
 and UT is based on 16.04
 @dohbee [and UT is based on 16.04], I know that 14.04 is not supported, I just like the old Unity Desktop so I'm sitting on Ubuntu 14 …  And what about the fact that you are talking about 16 ubuntu. You say this about the latest version of UT, and I'm talking about its first release version in 2013
 @im_not_dead_seiwer [I know that 14.04 is not supported, I just like the old Unity Desktop so I'm sit …], you are comparing files which exist in 16.04 to them not existing in 14.04, and deriving some wild claim from it.
 it doesn't matter what was in 14.04
 and you can still use unity7 even in 20.04, so really you should upgrade, because you are not getting security updates currently
 @dohbee [you are comparing files which exist in 16.04 to them not existing in 14.04, and …], Ok, since in your opinion this comparison is not valid, then I will put 16 ubuntu on the virtual machine and compare there already. I don't think anything will change ...
 @dohbee [and you can still use unity7 even in 20.04, so really you should upgrade, becaus …], I tried Unity7 on ubuntu 20 .... You can only wish the enemy to describe this experience .... The system simply turns into "Super mega duper alpha beta pre-alpha Ubuntu 20.04"
 @im_not_dead_seiwer [Ok, since in your opinion this comparison is not valid, then I will put 16 ubunt …], ``` phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ apt-cache rdepends ubuntu-sounds … ubuntu-sounds … Reverse Depends: …   ubuntu-desktop```
 ubuntukylin and ubuntu mate also used it in 16.04
 well "used" in that it's installed by default on those variants
 it was never in the design to have audio feedback on every button press and such, on phones/tablets
 @dohbee [phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ apt-cache rdepends ubuntu-sounds … ubuntu-sounds … Revers …], This does not prove anything, because files in one package may differ, so in this case it is not the packages that need to be compared, but the files in them. To do this, I will now put the virtual machine and compare
 having audio feedback for that is also generally considered bad design, as it overwhelms users with useless noise; and there's a reason nobody has it on by default any more
 @im_not_dead_seiwer [This does not prove anything, because files in one package may differ, so in thi …], no, the files in the package do not differ. all versions of ubuntu 16.04 that have this package installed, have the same files
 @dohbee [it was never in the design to have audio feedback on every button press and such …], Believe in Android from 4.0 to 8.1 there is an audio response, it's just that since version 5.0 it is turned off by default and turned on in the settings -> sound
 and `ubuntu-touch-sounds` only includes ringtone/notification sounds
 @im_not_dead_seiwer [Believe in Android from 4.0 to 8.1 there is an audio response, it's just that si …], that has nothing to do with Ubuntu Touch nor the design thereof
 @dohbee [having audio feedback for that is also generally considered bad design, as it ov …], I don’t know, I always liked it .... Maybe I have bad tastes, but they did not disgust me at all (and I generally love sounds from Samsung Galaxy S3)
 @dohbee [that has nothing to do with Ubuntu Touch nor the design thereof], Maybe this is so, or maybe not, we will never know it anyway ... Maybe Canonical planned to implement such a system, or maybe not
 @dohbee [that has nothing to do with Ubuntu Touch nor the design thereof], Although in terms of that there is nothing in common, you are right (well ... except for the kernel ... and except for the drivers)
 @im_not_dead_seiwer [Maybe this is so, or maybe not, we will never know it anyway ... Maybe Canonical …], i can tell you with certainty that Canonical did not plan to implement such feature
 @dohbee [i can tell you with certainty that Canonical did not plan to implement such feat …], Well, how do you know? Did you work for Canonical when UT was created?
 yes
 (surprisingly, I thought Canonical employees weren't found here)  … (although what role did you have in planning UT is still a question)
 there are multiple former and current employees in here.
 the `ubuntu-sounds` package itself has those sounds to replace the default GNOME sound theme
 @dohbee [there are multiple former and current employees in here.], (although it seems to me that the current employees are not up to UT, nevertheless the project is considered dead, and they probably have a lot of work, so they probably often don't come here ... But who knows)
 @dohbee [the ubuntu-sounds package itself has those sounds to replace the default GNOME s …], Stop .... And where does Gnome and Unity, which was a separate desktop environment?
 what?
 probably he speaking through translator
 [Edit] probably he is speaking through translator
 unity7 relies on most of the GNOME stack still
 Unity7 used a lot of GNOME packages, like most of the user applications were GNOME
 it's just a different shell
 @dohbee [what?], Well, you say that ubuntu-sound is intended to replace the default package from Gnome and I don't understand how Gnome relates to Ubuntu and Unity, which are separate ... In theory, they should not depend on Gnome because it seems to be made from scratch (although maybe I I don’t know something)
 I'm wondering what this discussion has to do with UBports tbh
 @NotKit [probably he is speaking through translator], Yes, I have to speak through Google Translator due to poor English skills 😅
 @fredldotme [I'm wondering what this discussion has to do with UBports tbh], they are suggesting that we should be using sound themes, because the files are on the disk
 Huh, ok.
 and we can get rid of the `ubuntu-sounds` package anyway i think
 @fredldotme [Unity7 used a lot of GNOME packages, like most of the user applications were GNO …], Ah .... Here's the catch .... I thought Unity was completely separate like Xfce or Kde ....
 @dohbee [and we can get rid of the ubuntu-sounds package anyway i think], Unfortunately, we cannot, because a couple of sounds are still used there in the system, only if you cut out the excess than I will and will most likely do on my disk
 @im_not_dead_seiwer [Unfortunately, we cannot, because a couple of sounds are still used there in the …], they are not used
 phone-outgoing-calling.ogg … phone-outgoing-busy.ogg … bell.ogg … Used in system
 @im_not_dead_seiwer [phone-outgoing-calling.ogg … phone-outgoing-busy.ogg … bell.ogg … Used in system], no
 @dohbee [no], Ok, I'll try to delete it now for test and see what changes
 @dohbee [no], And so I could post a log, but it's not in English, so I'll describe it verbally.  … Removing a package will cause the removal of packages such as: dialer-app, messaging-app, qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-telephony0.1, telephony-service, ubuntu-touch, ubuntu-touch-session, ubuntu-touch-session-mir, unity8  … all the same,
[18:28] <ubptgbot>  this package is used in the system since it depends on the packages related to telephone service
 yes, you can't simply remove the package, due to the dependencies
 People often treat Debian packages like a box of LEGOs where you can pick and choose and build things with small pieces, but it's not, especially not with hard dependencies.
 @dohbee [yes, you can't simply remove the package, due to the dependencies], Therefore, it is most likely used in the system since such applications have it in dependencies ... I don't think it's worth cutting out because then you have to rewrite the code for these applications, which is a little dreary (we would still have to
[18:32] <ubptgbot> translate UT to wayland and we are still going to suffer here with such a trifling package)
 no
 You're overthinking things
 i've already looked and made a pull request to remove it :)
 @fredldotme [You're overthinking things], I agree, I myself am surprised how the head is not yet swollen from this)
 @dohbee [i've already looked and made a pull request to remove it :)], True, why if he does not particularly interfere with the kind of life, and does not take up much space ...
 @marquiskurt [Hi, is there a way I can install and avahi-daemon on Ubuntu Touch? I'd like to b …], OK! I managed to find a way to add xenial backports, temporarily make the system read-write, and install avahi-daemon/libnns-mdns as normal and can confirm it's working!
[21:01] <ubptgbot> <By brian All rights reserved> Got pixel 3a running lots of issues can’t receive txts very very slow browser glitch doesn’t load no data on mobile same as the redmi note 7 seems the same redmi note is so much smoother tried dev channel still same back on stable so any way to improve this it has a lot of potential can’t keep buying phones it’s getti
[21:01] <ubptgbot> ng expensive 😂
 @By brian All rights reserved [Got pixel 3a running lots of issues can’t receive txts very very slow browser gl …], I sure someone warned you before, it's a known issue and we're working on stabilizing telephony and SMS
 @By brian All rights reserved [Got pixel 3a running lots of issues can’t receive txts very very slow browser gl …], [Edit] I'm sure someone warned you before, it's a known issue and we're working on stabilizing telephony and SMS
[21:14] <ubptgbot> <By brian All rights reserved> At least your aware that’s good then
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 Hey
 An 8gb storage is not sufficient for hallium, right?
 I wanted to try and build it for an old phone, but it only has 8gb of storage
 an 8gb storage phone can be ported, sure.
 you're going to need a lot more storage on your PC though, to build stuff
 Oh
 Só the storage mentioned on hallium docs is for the pc?
 I thought it was for the phone
 i'm not sure which doc you're referring to specifically
 for the phone, it's generally recommended to have more than 1GB RAM and 8GB storage (~2GB will be taken by the system).
 Personally I think I have lost lots of improvements on these months without my pp... I have see you have finally move to systemd
 Aaaand QT5.12 🥳