| lotuspsychje | good morning | 03:01 |
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| lotuspsychje | hey TJ- o/ | 03:18 |
| TJ- | morning :) | 03:18 |
| ducasse | good morning | 07:15 |
| Guest61599 | Good morning | 09:10 |
| marcoagpinto | morning | 09:12 |
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| ice9 | which one do you recommend for a laptop, the LTS version or the non-LTS? | 12:30 |
| lotuspsychje | ice9: is it a recent laptop? | 12:32 |
| ice9 | lotuspsychje, yes | 12:33 |
| lotuspsychje | ice9: wich brand/model is it? | 12:33 |
| ice9 | lotuspsychje, actually they are 2; one is acer which is 3 years old; the other is a new huawei matebook | 12:34 |
| Maik | stick with a LTS version, the interim releases are supported for 9 months only and are more or less a testbed for the next LTS release | 12:34 |
| Maik | on the LTS release you get HWE support which means a newer kernel with each point release iirc | 12:35 |
| Maik | so 20.04.2 will ship with the 5.8 kernel if i'm correct | 12:36 |
| Maik | it will be released on the 4th of february | 12:36 |
| marcoagpinto | ahhhhh | 12:37 |
| Maik | 20.04.2 that is | 12:37 |
| marcoagpinto | I was just going to ask | 12:37 |
| Maik | :) | 12:37 |
| ice9 | Maik, there is no 21.04 release next april? | 12:37 |
| Maik | ice9: there is but it's also a interim release | 12:37 |
| lotuspsychje | ice9: it also depends on the purpose of your laptop(s) do YOU want a stable or a latest ubuntu release, its the users choice | 12:38 |
| Maik | next LTS will be 22.04 ice9 | 12:38 |
| Maik | ice9: if you want a stable workstation for a longer time stick with LTS. Simple as that. | 12:38 |
| ice9 | does LTS get new updates ONLY for the security or also for new app features? | 12:39 |
| lotuspsychje | ice9: since the coming of snaps, we cant generalize statements of app versions anymore, both LTS and non lts are now a mix of stable and latest packages | 12:46 |
| lotuspsychje | ice9: every ubuntu release has their own package versions on apt and some apps always get updates like firefox to give one example | 12:48 |
| Maik | ice9: https://ubuntu.com/blog/what-is-an-ubuntu-lts-release | 12:50 |
| ice9 | so it's seems that LTS is released with software developed in the previous 2 years; which means that LTS has 2 years old software right? | 13:05 |
| Maik | at least it is stable software | 13:08 |
| Maik | latest and greatest doesn't mean stability | 13:09 |
| Maik | CentOS and Debian use even older software packages | 13:10 |
| Maik | ice9: again, it's all up to you and your preferences. Want a stable workstation for daily usage and long support use a LTS release. Want more up to date software and shorter support use the interim releases. Always want to have the latest and greatest software with chance of breakage, go use a rolling release distro. | 13:14 |
| Maik | i myself been almost everywhere in the last 14 years, just give me a LTS release of Ubuntu or one of it's official flavors. Currently i use Ubuntu MATE 20.04.1 LTS on one machine. Another laptop is for helping testing the upcoming iso's. | 13:16 |
| lotuspsychje | conjo_: do you ever stop troll? | 14:07 |
| conjo_ | rofl im not man | 14:08 |
| conjo_ | sorry hey | 14:08 |
| ice9 | why gnome gestures doesn't work on X11? | 16:53 |
| Ussat | sounds like a question for #ubuntu | 17:12 |
| Tails | hi all i was going to install xrdp but, it installs gnome stuff. any better rdp server out there? | 18:36 |
| lotuspsychje | Tails: remmina comes by default on ubuntu-desktop now, try that perhaps? | 18:52 |
| ice9 | since it's possible to achieve full disk encryption including boot, why the installer doesn't it support it out of the box? | 19:06 |
| tomreyn | ice9: probably because those installations increase complexity, and that would increase errors / support intensity | 19:07 |
| tomreyn | Tails: which "gnome stuff", exactly, and why do you insist on rdp rather than vnc? | 19:09 |
| Tails | i would choose vnc if its better | 19:13 |
| tomreyn | $ apt-rdepends xrdp 2>/dev/null | grep -c gnome | 19:14 |
| tomreyn | 0 | 19:14 |
| tomreyn | this is on 18.04 LTS | 19:14 |
| lotuspsychje | 0 on 20.04 too | 19:15 |
| Tails | ok | 19:16 |
| conjo | hi anybody here use a standalone window manager rather than a D.E | 19:43 |
| sarnold | i3wm here | 19:44 |
| conjo | wsup sarnold | 19:45 |
| conjo | hope ur well | 19:45 |
| sarnold | conjo: yeah, can't complain, all things considered | 20:19 |
| * daftykins gets sarnold a real cookie instead of the cat treats | 20:20 | |
| sarnold | COOOKIES nomnomnomnnom | 20:20 |
| marcoagpinto | COLA!!!!!! | 20:36 |
| marcoagpinto | >:) | 20:36 |
| * sarnold hides his Cock-n-bull | 20:37 | |
| daftykins | that's a local pub! | 20:37 |
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