[01:59] <ubptgbot> <PauloAndrePMP> Olá, boa noite. … Existe a possibilidade de executar o python no terminal?
[01:59] <ubptgbot> <PauloAndrePMP> Hello .. Good night. … Is there a possibility to run python in the terminal?
[02:01] <ubptgbot> <marquiskurt> IDK if there’s any limitations, but I’m able to run the Python 3 interpreter in the terminal with python3
[02:15] <ubptgbot> <PauloAndrePMP> Ok. Thanks!
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[03:28] <ubptgbot> <Anthony Alaniz> Any of the phones that successfully run Ubuntu Touch are unavailable for sale.  Has anyone installed Ubuntu Touch on Samsung S10e?
[03:50] <ubptgbot> <Anthony Alaniz> @Ben Pittman [Hello,  loving Ubuntu touch. Just settimg up my first phone, a pixel 3a.  all se …], Hi Ben, is your cell working and which carrier?  I am sorry just looking to go UT and looking for a phone.
[03:51] <ubptgbot> <mintphin> @Anthony Alaniz [Any of the phones that successfully run Ubuntu Touch are unavailable for sale. …], afaik the mi a3 is still being sold new on ebay
[03:53] <ubptgbot> <Anthony Alaniz> Ok cool, which carrier is works best Verizon, At&t etc
[03:53] <ubptgbot> <mintphin> it's unlocked. check on something like kimovil
[03:53] <ubptgbot> <mintphin> [Edit] it's unlocked. check on something like kimovil what bands does it support
[03:54] <ubptgbot> <Anthony Alaniz> I dont know but will find out.  Ty for helping.
[03:55] <ubptgbot> <mintphin> if you want tho you could port hte samsung galaxy s10e yourself
[03:55] <ubptgbot> <mintphin> just make sure it has an available kernel and android 9 image
[03:57] <ubptgbot> <Anthony Alaniz> 👍
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[07:29] <ubptgbot> <ItsMeShouko> My forensics teacher knows about Ubuntu Touch I think he came to know from xda, thanks to Erfan's GSI :P
[07:31] <ubptgbot> <ItsMeShouko> @Anthony Alaniz [Ok cool, which carrier is works best Verizon, At&t etc], I think the ones that still allows you to use 2g and 3g for calling
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[10:43] <ubptgbot> <Bob> Hi. A moment ago my smartphone (Nexus 5) turned off the sleep itself and began to enter random numbers in the emergency call. When I tried to do something, it reset itself. And before this reset, I saw a tab from the "account" settings. Was it an accident or an attempted break-in?
[10:58] <ubptgbot> <Steve Kueffer> @Bob [Hi. A moment ago my smartphone (Nexus 5) turned off the sleep itself and began t …], I had a similar issue a few weeks ago, only when device was connected to the original charger. Solution: Unplug the device from the micro-USB wire and reboot. Now I'm using another USB charger and the bug did not reappeared.
[11:02] <ubptgbot> <alan_griffiths> @Bob [Hi. A moment ago my smartphone (Nexus 5) turned off the sleep itself and began t …], It is far more likely to spurious input from the hardware than an incompetent break in attempt. … Possible causes include the touchscreen needing cleaning, poor USB contacts or cable, or the screen being faulty. Try cleaning and hope it's a o
[11:02] <ubptgbot> ne-off.
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[12:39] <ubptgbot> <mateosalta> @Bob [Hi. A moment ago my smartphone (Nexus 5) turned off the sleep itself and began t …], the nexus 5's screen is know to break where it touches random like thay
[12:39] <ubptgbot> <mateosalta> @Bob [Hi. A moment ago my smartphone (Nexus 5) turned off the sleep itself and began t …], [Edit] the nexus 5's screen is known to break where it touches random like that
[12:40] <ubptgbot> <Javacookies> my E5 had the same problem … it was hard to use while charging which is actually the right thing to do. Don't use it while charging 😄
[13:40] <ubptgbot> Oliv' was added by: Oliv'
[14:12] <ubptgbot> <Oliv'> Hi, anyone having only one phone to use Android & test UBports? How do you backup Android? I tried "adb backup" without success, lot of reconfiguration to be made
[14:13] <ubptgbot> <mimecar> Is your phone supported on UT?
[14:14] <ubptgbot> <Oliv'> More or less, in is a Samsung S7: https://github.com/Halium/projectmanagement/issues/48
[14:23] <ubptgbot> <AllHafRA> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/gArTLR9K.webp
[14:23] <ubptgbot> <AllHafRA> And my chinese microUsb-hdmi adapter make only charging N5
[14:24] <ubptgbot> <AllHafRA> from the monitor!
[14:44] <ubptgbot> <Javacookies> is it a slimport adapter?
[14:58] <ubptgbot> <Thommi> Hi everybody, … I'm thinking about using Ubuntu touch on a Xiaomi redmi note 7 as a primary phone. I want to ditch google and apple for good 😃 Can anyone using this setup give me an idea of what it's like? Is it working well or is it a lot of issues still?
[15:21] <ubptgbot> <Manojkumar M> For nexus 5x which device is compatible, like
[15:22] <ubptgbot> <Manojkumar M> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/dRFGs245.png
[15:26] <ubptgbot> <j2g2rp> there is no compatibility
[15:26] <ubptgbot> <j2g2rp> each phone have its own port
[15:27] <ubptgbot> <j2g2rp> Nexus 5x is not ported AFAIK
[15:30] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @j2g2rp [Nexus 5x is not ported AFAIK], Exactly, its not ported
[15:30] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @Oliv' [More or less, in is a Samsung S7: https://github.com/Halium/projectmanagement/is …], Thats not enough, if its not here: https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/ then its not supported
[15:38] <ubptgbot> <Manojkumar M> @j2g2rp [Nexus 5x is not ported AFAIK], Thanks Josu
[15:39] <ubptgbot> <Manojkumar M> Do we have an workaround ?
[15:42] <ubptgbot> <Oliv'> @Flohack [Thats not enough, if its not here: https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/ then its not …], OK, I'll still try and see what I get and what needs improvements :)
[15:44] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @Oliv' [OK, I'll still try and see what I get and what needs improvements :)], I dont think it will even boot. That manifest is probably for a pure Halium build, but Ubuntu Touch needs a different approach. YOu should start with the porting guide from the beginning to get there ^^
[15:44] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> Although we wanted to bring Ubuntu Touch to a state where it boots according to Halium specs, this has not landed. Basically also because it does not use systemd. So currently manifests from halium repos need to be taken with a grain of salt so to say
[15:48] <ubptgbot> <Oliv'> I did start from the begining :) , there are some web pages reporting a successfull boot with the S7. Anyway, I do not expect it to be painless but I really like this phone so I want to give it a try.
[15:48] <ubptgbot> <Oliv'> Any documentation on the different approach of both projects regarding this manifest?
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[16:17] <ubptgbot> <J0SH1X> does ubports load the wifi firmware from a different directory like for example pmos does ?
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[16:54] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> @Flohack [Although we wanted to bring Ubuntu Touch to a state where it boots according to …], wait halium doesn't use systemd or vice versa?
[16:55] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> @Oliv' [Any documentation on the different approach of both projects regarding this mani …], https://docs.ubports.com/porting should give you an idea
[16:56] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> @Manojkumar M [Do we have an workaround ?], yes the workaround is called 'porting'; many have tried, none have succeeded. If you do dare to try there's link to a guide in the group description
[17:07] <ubptgbot> <Oliv'> @Fuseteam [https://docs.ubports.com/porting should give you an idea], Thanks, but it does not explain the "different manifest approach". It even let's the reader think of the opposite.
[17:12] <ubptgbot> <Oliv'> As I already read it I was surprised by Florain's comment that it why I want to know more :)
[17:24] <ubptgbot> <Manojkumar M> @Fuseteam [yes the workaround is called 'porting'; many have tried, none have succeeded. If …], 👍
[18:06] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @Fuseteam [wait halium doesn't use systemd or vice versa?], A reference OS with Halium should use systemd. But because Ubuntu Touch is on 16.04 currently we do not use systemd. Also it will create issues with old Android kernels. Systemd has problems working on kernels before 3.10 lets say. So that were blockers so far
[18:06] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> Also, Canonical made a really nice jobstart environment pairing signals between Android container and Ubuntu Touch upstart jobs. That needs some tooling now, so when we move to 20.04 we shall see how that works.
[18:06] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> So yes there are firm reasons ^^
[18:20] <ubptgbot> <NotKit> I think de-facto definition of Halium now are parts that run inside LXC container
[18:21] <ubptgbot> <NotKit> defining reference designs turned impractical as each project carries their own legacy and setup ways
[18:22] <ubptgbot> <NotKit> @Flohack [Also, Canonical made a really nice jobstart environment pairing signals between …], which is exactly broken on Halium ports right now
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[18:53] <ubptgbot> <Oliv'> Thanks
[19:20] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> @Flohack [Also, Canonical made a really nice jobstart environment pairing signals between …], ah interesting, so once we find a way forward to systemd we can bring ubuntu touch to halium specs
[19:21] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> @NotKit [which is exactly broken on Halium ports right now], oh hmm interesting
[19:29] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @Fuseteam [ah interesting, so once we find a way forward to systemd we can bring ubuntu tou …], Well the idea was to have a unified device initialization for different mobile phone projects. So KDE left Halium behind basically, and ther eis no sign of life from the others. I am not sure we will invest time to keep it as generic as it was
[19:29] <ubptgbot> one day. But chances increase with the new Ubuntu version, since at least systemd is uses by all other distros
[19:41] <ubptgbot> <Strutter> Anyone currently running the unofficial build for OnePlus 6?
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[19:44] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @Strutter [Anyone currently running the unofficial build for OnePlus 6?], @calebccff can help :P
[19:48] <ubptgbot> <Strutter> Super.
[19:49] <ubptgbot> <marquiskurt> @Flohack [Well the idea was to have a unified device initialization for different mobile p …], Hmmm... I have a daemon running with systemd/systemctl on my Nexus 7. Should I have that switched over to upstart until the switch to systemd?
[19:49] <ubptgbot> <rogieroudshoorn> just installed it today actually
[19:50] <ubptgbot> <Strutter> @calebccff I've noticed some recent commits so I assume there is progress. I tried to install it a few months back bit could not get Android 9 over the top of lineageos. Also may I ask what battery life is like. Thank you.
[19:51] <ubptgbot> <Strutter> [Edit] @calebccff I've noticed some recent commits so I assume there is progress. I tried to install it a few months back but could not get Android 9 over the top of lineageos. Also may I ask what battery life is like. Thank you.
[19:53] <ubptgbot> <calebccff> @Strutter [@calebccff I've noticed some recent commits so I assume there is progress. I tri …], GSI images are basically no longer being supported, the progress you see won't become available there. I'm currently working on getting the device added to CI and eventually the ubports installer which will take some time. Unless you're havin
[19:53] <ubptgbot> g a specific issue I can help with basically go follow the guide on github (https://github.com/ubports-oneplus6/documentation). Battery life is a bit screwed right now as enabling suspend causes the device to crash due to a kernel bug
[19:54] <ubptgbot> <Strutter> @calebccff Thank you for the update. I'll keep my eyes peeled.
[19:59] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> @Flohack [Well the idea was to have a unified device initialization for different mobile p …], hmm true
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[20:05] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> @Flohack [Well the idea was to have a unified device initialization for different mobile p …], [Edit] hmm true, i do think there is some merit to it; if one project uses the halium spec, others are likely to follow suit
[20:27] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @Fuseteam [hmm true, i do think there is some merit to it; if one project uses the halium s …], I dont believe so but lets see ^^ Because the more time passes the less people want to throw away what they have and adopt smth else. And frankly, which other project do you know that are eligible for Halium besides KDE?
[20:28] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @marquiskurt [Hmmm... I have a daemon running with systemd/systemctl on my Nexus 7. Should I h …], Erm what exactly did you do 😆
[20:29] <ubptgbot> <marquiskurt> I installed the avahi-daemon and enabled it with systemctl so that I can access my Pi via zeroconf
[20:29] <ubptgbot> <marquiskurt> (Namely for integration with Nextcloud and UOA)
[20:30] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> Humm interesting but if you do a ps aux | grep systemd what would happen
[20:31] <ubptgbot> <marquiskurt> (Photo, 1200x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/0sJvaIi0.png
[20:31] <ubptgbot> <marquiskurt> This is the output
[20:32] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @marquiskurt [This is the output], So you see no system is running, only 2 helpers ^^
[20:32] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @marquiskurt [This is the output], [Edit] So you see no systemd is running, only 2 helpers ^^
[20:32] <ubptgbot> <DD1> yall discussed JingOS yet?
[20:32] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> Thats ok systemctl is also controlling upstart I would say
[20:33] <ubptgbot> <DD1> Or is this telegram strictly UBports?
[20:33] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @DD1 [yall discussed JingOS yet?], Not worth IMHO :P
[20:33] <ubptgbot> <marquiskurt> Ah, OK then
[20:33] <ubptgbot> <DD1> I mean it looks really nice tbh
[20:33] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> Well marketing is one thing. Physical devices another. Let some time pass ^^
[20:33] <ubptgbot> <marquiskurt> Would explain why I'm still able to connect to .local addresses
[20:33] <ubptgbot> <calebccff> @DD1 [yall discussed JingOS yet?], > is it open source?
[20:33] <ubptgbot> <DD1> @calebccff [> is it open source?], I think so yes
[20:34] <ubptgbot> <DD1> jingos.com
[20:34] <ubptgbot> <calebccff> @DD1 [I think so yes], do more research
[20:34] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> Full with CHinese spyware 😆
[20:34] <ubptgbot> <DD1> Well from what I remember yes
[20:34] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> [Edit] Full with Chinese spyware 😆
[20:34] <ubptgbot> <DD1> https://forum.jingos.com/t/faq-about-jingos/243
[20:34] <ubptgbot> <calebccff> @DD1 [Well from what I remember yes], you remember incorrectly, they said they /will/ open source it, which is basically useless, it's clear they aren't interested in community driven development
[20:35] <ubptgbot> <calebccff> they'll either go full for-profit and find a niche or they'll die
[20:35] <ubptgbot> <DD1> "And JingOS will be free forever." ?
[20:35] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @DD1 ["And JingOS will be free forever." ?], Nothing in life is free, its a fact ;)
[20:35] <ubptgbot> <calebccff> @DD1 ["And JingOS will be free forever." ?], they also said they'll open source it but I don't see any code
[20:36] <ubptgbot> <DD1> Well its coming out Jan 31st
[20:36] <ubptgbot> <NotKit> I think they said they will publish the sources end of January with alpha release
[20:36] <ubptgbot> <NotKit> so let's just wait and see
[20:36] <ubptgbot> <marquiskurt> Tbh I prefer UT. It's funny because I try to do the gestures on my iPhone and facepalm, realizing that mistake
[20:36] <ubptgbot> <calebccff> (Photo, 1280x458) https://irc.ubports.com/i1ECoFKj.png They don't look like an open-first OS is all I'm saying
[20:36] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> A mobile OS is only worth what its Apps are worth
[20:37] <ubptgbot> <marquiskurt> True
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[20:38] <ubptgbot> <NotKit> for tablets they can probably get away with supporting desktop apps
[20:40] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @NotKit [for tablets they can probably get away with supporting desktop apps], True
[20:41] <ubptgbot> <marquiskurt> It'll be interesting to see how it plays out.
[20:41] <ubptgbot> <marquiskurt> The mockups looked similar to iOS, right?
[20:44] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> yes
[20:44] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> I am not sure I like this "More of the same" approach ;)
[20:45] <ubptgbot> <marquiskurt> OK, it is the one I saw on OMG Ubuntu. Been a while 😅
[20:46] <ubptgbot> <marquiskurt> @Flohack [I am not sure I like this "More of the same" approach ;)], Same. Let iOS be iOS.
[20:47] <ubptgbot> <Jrue> @Flohack [Nothing in life is free, its a fact ;)], If only people would wake up and realize that.
[20:49] <ubptgbot> <calebccff> Idk I'm yet to spend money on open sourcing and massively extending the usable lifespan of my phone ;P
[20:50] <ubptgbot> <marquiskurt> Tbh I was given the Nexus 7 but spending time and effort to make UT work well for my use cases
[20:51] <ubptgbot> <NotKit> @calebccff [Idk I'm yet to spend money on open sourcing and massively extending the usable l …], you're taking effort, so it's still not "free" :)
[20:52] <ubptgbot> <Jrue> @NotKit [you're taking effort, so it's still not "free" :)], Worked for it
[20:52] <ubptgbot> <calebccff> @NotKit [you're taking effort, so it's still not "free" :)], You weren't meant to point that out
[20:52] <ubptgbot> <marquiskurt> Exactly
[20:52] <ubptgbot> <marquiskurt> (On the effort part)
[21:04] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @Flohack [Full with Chinese spyware 😆], No need for wild claims
[21:05] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> It's a straight clone of iOS interface, and yes off topic :)
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[21:58] <ubptgbot> <Oliv'> So I flash halium-boot.img with Heimdal on my S7, I can acces to the telnet interface but I can not access to the recovery (TWRP) to install halium/UT, nothings happens when I press home+volume up+power. Any idea? :)
[22:00] <ubptgbot> <Oliv'> Actually I tried to power it down with "halt -f" an the phone is not respoding anymore to the power button :/
[22:02] <ubptgbot> <NotKit> try holding power button and volume buttons maybe
[22:04] <ubptgbot> <Oliv'> Thanks, power+volume down without home worked :) Is there a way to reboot in recovery thanks ot the telnet inteface ?
[22:13] <ubptgbot> <NotKit> normally reboot -f recovery works, but probably not in telnet
[22:14] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @Oliv' [So I flash halium-boot.img with Heimdal on my S7, I can acces to the telnet inte …], Which images did you take to the S7, I cant find any trace that we would have a port for this already
[22:15] <ubptgbot> <NotKit> he compiled it as I see at @halium
[22:16] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> Yeah that wont work, I said already before, its a Halium manifest that would not work with UT
[22:17] <ubptgbot> <NotKit> it should work to some extent, but anyway that is porting-related now
[22:19] <ubptgbot> <Oliv'> Yes I compiled it, I know that there might be lot of issue but I want to give it a try. so with reboot instead of halt I have been able to reach recovery. Thanks :)
[22:34] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> @Flohack [I dont believe so but lets see ^^ Because the more time passes the less people w …], manjaro maybe? if they ever decide to support android hardware and kde only 'left' halium because their end was unmaintained
[22:35] <ubptgbot> <NotKit> there is also small but interesting hybris-mobian effort
[22:36] <ubptgbot> <just_carlod> yeah, mobian is nice
[22:36] <ubptgbot> <just_carlod> but I want to have lomiri on mobian, cause phosh sucks
[22:37] <ubptgbot> <Oliv'> Still not booting, I will definitely spend lot of time :) … @Floran, why are you so pessimistic when you see this comment ? https://github.com/Halium/projectmanagement/issues/48#issuecomment-619349555
[22:38] <ubptgbot> <NotKit> @Oliv' [Still not booting, I will definitely spend lot of time :) … @Floran, why are you s …], you'd really to debug problems step by step, I can't say much without proper logs. also join @ubports_porting
[22:38] <ubptgbot> <NotKit> @Oliv' [Still not booting, I will definitely spend lot of time :) … @Floran, why are you s …], [Edit] you'd really need to debug problems step by step, I can't say much without proper logs. also join @ubports_porting
[22:39] <ubptgbot> <Oliv'> Ok, I'll do :) thanks; There seems to be a panic in the dmesg, I'll analyse it and ask for help if I do not find the issue myself, thanks
[22:39] <ubptgbot> <just_carlod> [Edit] but I want to have lomiri on mobian, cause phosh sucks for now
[22:40] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @Oliv' [Still not booting, I will definitely spend lot of time :) … @Floran, why are you s …], Ah please join porting group and talk with @aribk there ^^ I totally di dnot get it, he i sporting for UT. But you need a different kernel setup for sure. Did you follow UT porting guide?
[22:41] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @Oliv' [Still not booting, I will definitely spend lot of time :) … @Floran, why are you s …], [Edit] Ah please join porting group and talk with @aribk there ^^ I totally di dnot get it, he is porting this device for UT. But you need a different kernel setup for sure. Did you follow UT porting guide?
[22:42] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> he already joined the porting group fwiw
[22:43] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> at least i think he did
[22:43] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> cool
[22:44] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> They should cooperate on this port, Ari got a bit stuck ^^
[22:44] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> yeah that'd be great
[22:48] <ubptgbot> <Oliv'> Sure, time to sleep so I am restoring Android's backup but I'll continue tomorrow. I definitely need to buy a 2nd device :)
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