| === conjo_ is now known as turd | ||
| === turd is now known as poopfart | ||
| === poopfart is now known as bloody | ||
| === bloody is now known as bloodyhell | ||
| === bloodyhell is now known as conyo_ | ||
| === conyo_ is now known as Conjo_ | ||
| lotuspsychje | good morning | 04:29 |
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| ducasse | good morning | 08:30 |
| lotuspsychje | hey TJ- | 11:24 |
| TJ- | hiho | 11:29 |
| lotuspsychje | TJ-: this bug still haunts me across all kernel versions, any ideas what else i can try? bug #1807818 | 11:30 |
| ubot5 | bug 1807818 in linux (Ubuntu) "Touchpad scroll does not work on occasion" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1807818 | 11:30 |
| TJ- | lotuspsychje: have you tried the ubiquitous acpi_osi workaround? | 11:32 |
| lotuspsychje | dont think so | 11:33 |
| lotuspsychje | its hard to catch also, as it only occurs 1 time a month or so | 11:33 |
| TJ- | lotuspsychje: is there any correlation of uptime, or number of suspend/resume cycles | 11:40 |
| lotuspsychje | TJ-: i dont suspend and resume here, every day cold boots and halts | 11:41 |
| TJ- | humidity? | 11:42 |
| lotuspsychje | no | 11:42 |
| lotuspsychje | sometimes i need 2 reboots to fix it | 11:42 |
| lotuspsychje | then its fixed again for another month | 11:44 |
| TJ- | a couple weeks ago Cal was complaining the pointer was moving randonly and he couldn't control it. Turned the BT mouse off and realised it was caused by the touchpad. I put a drop of water on the touchpad and it stopped mis-behaving (due to the capacitance) - he was incredulous. I told him the problem ws likely humidity in the layers of the touchpad. Turned out he'd been leaving the laptop | 11:45 |
| TJ- | in his kitchen in a location that got hot and cold by turns, which would help humidity to form | 11:45 |
| TJ- | a few hours later it had dried out and was fine again | 11:46 |
| lotuspsychje | TJ-: i try to cleanse touchpad and screen once a month with anti static liquid, but doesnt happen nearby cleaning | 11:47 |
| lotuspsychje | i dont spill cola neither :p | 11:47 |
| TJ- | it looks like a hardware issue in the dmesg with the interrupts not being serviced | 11:49 |
| lotuspsychje | pretty weird its on random right | 11:49 |
| lotuspsychje | welcome MightBeTrippin | 18:02 |
| lotuspsychje | start your poll here mate | 18:02 |
| MightBeTrippin | do you think that ubuntu's new homepage needs to be updated for more desktop user info? rn it's all enterprise stuff. imagine being a linux newbie and being reccomended ubuntu, the seeing this. you're probably gonna think that linux is all for servers if ubuntu, "the big one", is all about that | 18:04 |
| daftykins | i think you're right, it's barely easy to spot that it's a desktop OS at all from the current state of ubuntu.com | 18:06 |
| lotuspsychje | it used to have the ubuntu 'tour' did they remove that? | 18:08 |
| MightBeTrippin | yup. back when i was thinking about switching to linux for the first time, the tour was by far my favorite thing from the website | 18:09 |
| Maik | iirc everything is under the Download tab on the site, Doc, tutorials & stuff | 18:10 |
| Maik | https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/install-ubuntu-desktop#1-overview | 18:11 |
| Maik | like that one ^ | 18:11 |
| daftykins | you might want to learn more before downloading though, so it's not very logical | 18:12 |
| MightBeTrippin | lmao the screens are so old i think that's pre-unity ubuntu | 18:12 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah he's got a point | 18:12 |
| Maik | https://ubuntu.com/desktop | 18:12 |
| Maik | the screenshots used are from 18.04 LTS with Gnome 3 | 18:13 |
| lotuspsychje | oh features are better | 18:13 |
| Maik | in the tutorial i meant | 18:13 |
| daftykins | having a link doesn't really help because to my mind, the only way you'd get there is if you were on ubuntu.com and scrolled right down to the footer for the text-only links | 18:14 |
| MightBeTrippin | imo trying to replace apt with snap was a bad move | 18:14 |
| Maik | apt is still being used | 18:14 |
| MightBeTrippin | ik, but they pushed snap a lot in 20.04 | 18:15 |
| Maik | and they will even push it further, snap isn't new, it's been around for years now | 18:15 |
| Maik | if you don't want to use it then don't | 18:16 |
| MightBeTrippin | i used snap since the 17.10 days, it was nice as an alternative the gnome frontend, but not as a replacement | 18:16 |
| MightBeTrippin | the software center is kinda broken now, with both apt and snap variants of the same app | 18:17 |
| MightBeTrippin | i've always prefered using the command line for installing packages and sometimes aptitude too | 18:18 |
| lotuspsychje | isnt ubuntu.com also dynamic on new ubuntu releases? showing more desktop ads when it comes out? | 18:18 |
| MightBeTrippin | tbh i have no idea, i haven't visited it in a long time. maybe only once to download xenial as a rescue cd | 18:19 |
| daftykins | i'm sure it does flip over to touting a new release at the time, but i don't think it's right to hide away desktop as much as it is with the current design | 18:24 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah you're right, would also love to see a tour/features on the front | 18:25 |
| lotuspsychje | but, could be perhaps a comercial think of canonical on purpose? | 18:25 |
| MightBeTrippin | what if, and hear me out, they split the page into 2 parts like opensuse's one, for enterprise and desktop use, adapting it to your choice | 18:26 |
| lotuspsychje | https://canonical.com/ ubuntu.com seems like a fork here :p | 18:26 |
| daftykins | definitely does seem like the focus is on the money making parts, yep | 18:26 |
| MightBeTrippin | wait, is mir a canonical product? wasn't it made by those guys who made ubuntu unity too? | 18:27 |
| lotuspsychje | mir/wayland is used for iot and like passive kiosks | 18:28 |
| lotuspsychje | think Maik knows more of unity's/ubports evolution these days | 18:30 |
| Maik | not following UBports much, i only know that the changed the Unity8 name to Lomiri | 18:46 |
| === Sven_vB_ is now known as Sven_vB | ||
| Maik | Unity 7 is in maintenance mode and not being actively developed at all. They are planning to port it over to Github/Gitlab later this year to attract more people to get development going again. | 18:48 |
| Maik | Rudra from the Ubuntu Unity Remix started working on UnityX which will be a stand alone desktop environment based on GTK. No more Gnome dependencies and it won't be a Compiz plugin like Unity 7 was/is. | 18:49 |
| Maik | that's all i know | 18:49 |
| lotuspsychje | tnx Maik | 18:50 |
| Maik | you're welcome buddy | 18:51 |
| Maik | https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/restarting-unity-development-in-2021-progress-report/20217 | 18:52 |
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