=== conjo_ is now known as turd === turd is now known as poopfart === poopfart is now known as bloody === bloody is now known as bloodyhell === bloodyhell is now known as conyo_ === conyo_ is now known as Conjo_ [04:29] good morning [08:30] good morning [11:24] hey TJ- [11:29] hiho [11:30] TJ-: this bug still haunts me across all kernel versions, any ideas what else i can try? bug #1807818 [11:30] bug 1807818 in linux (Ubuntu) "Touchpad scroll does not work on occasion" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1807818 [11:32] lotuspsychje: have you tried the ubiquitous acpi_osi workaround? [11:33] dont think so [11:33] its hard to catch also, as it only occurs 1 time a month or so [11:40] lotuspsychje: is there any correlation of uptime, or number of suspend/resume cycles [11:41] TJ-: i dont suspend and resume here, every day cold boots and halts [11:42] humidity? [11:42] no [11:42] sometimes i need 2 reboots to fix it [11:44] then its fixed again for another month [11:45] a couple weeks ago Cal was complaining the pointer was moving randonly and he couldn't control it. Turned the BT mouse off and realised it was caused by the touchpad. I put a drop of water on the touchpad and it stopped mis-behaving (due to the capacitance) - he was incredulous. I told him the problem ws likely humidity in the layers of the touchpad. Turned out he'd been leaving the laptop [11:45] in his kitchen in a location that got hot and cold by turns, which would help humidity to form [11:46] a few hours later it had dried out and was fine again [11:47] TJ-: i try to cleanse touchpad and screen once a month with anti static liquid, but doesnt happen nearby cleaning [11:47] i dont spill cola neither :p [11:49] it looks like a hardware issue in the dmesg with the interrupts not being serviced [11:49] pretty weird its on random right [18:02] welcome MightBeTrippin [18:02] start your poll here mate [18:04] do you think that ubuntu's new homepage needs to be updated for more desktop user info? rn it's all enterprise stuff. imagine being a linux newbie and being reccomended ubuntu, the seeing this. you're probably gonna think that linux is all for servers if ubuntu, "the big one", is all about that [18:06] i think you're right, it's barely easy to spot that it's a desktop OS at all from the current state of ubuntu.com [18:08] it used to have the ubuntu 'tour' did they remove that? [18:09] yup. back when i was thinking about switching to linux for the first time, the tour was by far my favorite thing from the website [18:10] iirc everything is under the Download tab on the site, Doc, tutorials & stuff [18:11] https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/install-ubuntu-desktop#1-overview [18:11] like that one ^ [18:12] you might want to learn more before downloading though, so it's not very logical [18:12] lmao the screens are so old i think that's pre-unity ubuntu [18:12] yeah he's got a point [18:12] https://ubuntu.com/desktop [18:13] the screenshots used are from 18.04 LTS with Gnome 3 [18:13] oh features are better [18:13] in the tutorial i meant [18:14] having a link doesn't really help because to my mind, the only way you'd get there is if you were on ubuntu.com and scrolled right down to the footer for the text-only links [18:14] imo trying to replace apt with snap was a bad move [18:14] apt is still being used [18:15] ik, but they pushed snap a lot in 20.04 [18:15] and they will even push it further, snap isn't new, it's been around for years now [18:16] if you don't want to use it then don't [18:16] i used snap since the 17.10 days, it was nice as an alternative the gnome frontend, but not as a replacement [18:17] the software center is kinda broken now, with both apt and snap variants of the same app [18:18] i've always prefered using the command line for installing packages and sometimes aptitude too [18:18] isnt ubuntu.com also dynamic on new ubuntu releases? showing more desktop ads when it comes out? [18:19] tbh i have no idea, i haven't visited it in a long time. maybe only once to download xenial as a rescue cd [18:24] i'm sure it does flip over to touting a new release at the time, but i don't think it's right to hide away desktop as much as it is with the current design [18:25] yeah you're right, would also love to see a tour/features on the front [18:25] but, could be perhaps a comercial think of canonical on purpose? [18:26] what if, and hear me out, they split the page into 2 parts like opensuse's one, for enterprise and desktop use, adapting it to your choice [18:26] https://canonical.com/ ubuntu.com seems like a fork here :p [18:26] definitely does seem like the focus is on the money making parts, yep [18:27] wait, is mir a canonical product? wasn't it made by those guys who made ubuntu unity too? [18:28] mir/wayland is used for iot and like passive kiosks [18:30] think Maik knows more of unity's/ubports evolution these days [18:46] not following UBports much, i only know that the changed the Unity8 name to Lomiri === Sven_vB_ is now known as Sven_vB [18:48] Unity 7 is in maintenance mode and not being actively developed at all. They are planning to port it over to Github/Gitlab later this year to attract more people to get development going again. [18:49] Rudra from the Ubuntu Unity Remix started working on UnityX which will be a stand alone desktop environment based on GTK. No more Gnome dependencies and it won't be a Compiz plugin like Unity 7 was/is. [18:49] that's all i know [18:50] tnx Maik [18:51] you're welcome buddy [18:52] https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/restarting-unity-development-in-2021-progress-report/20217