 ok this is like the 5th machine I have seen this happy on uBLUNTu desktop and server
 it thinks it's a efi/gpt system and it's not
[00:13] <flyback> it seems to work alright but wtf gives
[00:13] <flyback> yes I know wtf a efi/gpt system is but this hw existed before the standard
[00:15] <jeremy31> flyback: is UEFI support enabled in BIOS?
[00:16] <flyback> it's coreboot
[00:16] <flyback> I guess the atom could technically support uefi but the other boxes absolutely DO NOT support uefi
[00:17] <flyback> it's not that big of a deal since it seems to work anyways just weird
[00:18] <jeremy31> flyback: it is just how the ISO is booted, if it boots in UEFI mode, that is how it tries to install, the boot menu of the ISO will be a text grub menu where I think BIOS mode gets a graphical boot with some message about booting automatically in 10 seconds
[00:19] <flyback> ok
[00:32] <mrtrousers> Hello im back _conjo
[00:33] <mrtrousers> For anyone that was wondering the ublox gps device only gets powered recognized by the laptop when its battery is full and plugged
[00:35] <maxFlexGuest> Sorry, but I meant to go to the Ubuntu For All channel. It looks like nobody can help me come up with the future.
[00:41] <maxFlexGuest> Please prepare for people to start commenting more for their needs upon the release of "Hirsute Hippo" because some people may still be using computers with just a single 64-bit core and 1 gigabyte of system memory. Even my virtual machine is faster than such a computer configuration.
[00:46] <Bashing-om> maxFlexGuest: See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements/ >> 4 GiB RAM (system memory) :D
[00:47] <sarnold> I mean, it depends what you do with it.. my little rpi3b+ has less than one gigabyte of ram, but runs two gps receivers perfectly :)
[00:48] <sarnold> it's even got a bit of headroom for just random tasks, too
[01:12] <pcfreak30> Hello, could someone please point me to where the documentation is for kernel noot arguments like root=http and httproot=URL?
[01:12] <pcfreak30> boot*
[01:12] <sarnold> pcfreak30: https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt
[01:13] <sarnold> pcfreak30: note that some kernel command line parameters mean nothing to the kernel and userspace interpret them
[01:13] <sarnold> this is rare, but 'httproot' feels like the kind of thing that might qualify :)
[01:13] <pcfreak30> yes have read that.
[01:14] <pcfreak30> Thing is i have copied a custom built kernel and initrd from a package that should be handling it right and its not. cannot open root device http.
[01:15] <pcfreak30> and reading elsewhere shows oither arguments. that doc doesnt mention ramdisks either
[01:15] <pcfreak30> So have a bit of mixed info
[01:16] <mrtrousers> Hello, what does this error mean? usb 1-2: clear tt 2 (8260) error -71
[01:17] <rander2> hello
[01:17] <rander2> !help
[01:17] <rander2> !help
[01:25] <LenniePike> hi everyone
[01:26] <LenniePike> thank you to everyone for their help
[01:26] <LenniePike> I got my printer installed
[01:26] <sarnold> \o/
[01:27] <mrtrousers> Where's that file in ubuntu? Documentation/usb/error-codes.txt
[01:27] <sarnold> omg tha actually exists
[01:30] <sarnold> or rather, it used to exist. it looks like it's been removed.
[01:30] <sarnold> mrtrousers: anyway here's a copy of it from a 4.4 kernel http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fh4Z7xpwV8/
[01:33] <cluelessperson> holy hell, Dolphin is WAYYYY faster than nautilus
[01:41] <rander2> hello
[01:48] <mrtrousers> Hello need help
[01:48] <mrtrousers> Got a device that doesnt want to connect  show up properly in ubuntu.
[01:48] <mrtrousers> Thats the output of dmesg: https://pastebin.com/raw/VcqB1yCM
[01:50] <mrtrousers> If I supply external power it works fine, even weirder it has worked with only usb but it does randomly..
[01:52] <sarnold> ublox :D
[01:52] <mrtrousers> Yes sarnold, cna you help me?
[01:52] <tomreyn> mrtrousers: current location of usb error codes documentation https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/driver-api/usb/error-codes.html
[01:52] <sarnold> mrtrousers: probably not :( my ublox receivers just worked no trouble :/
[01:53] <mrtrousers> In ubuntu?
[01:53] <sarnold> yeah
[01:53] <mrtrousers> With just usb? What model do you have?
[01:54] <sarnold> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ySvrYsGyQH/
[01:54] <pavlos> mrtrousers: do you see ftdi_sio module in lsmod ?
[01:54] <sarnold> yeah, usb, I'm not doing any ntpd
[01:55] <mrtrousers> pavlos yes
[01:56] <mrtrousers> pavlos: ftdi_sio               61440  0
[01:56] <mrtrousers> usbserial              53248  1 ftdi_sio
[01:57] <pavlos> mrtrousers: this link shows usbcore line with ftdi_sio as well, see http://ftdi-usb-sio.sourceforge.net/
[01:58] <sarnold> mrtrousers: power is odd.. if there isn't enough, sometimes things just don't work quite right. it's possible that you might be stuck needing to supply external power to these things.
[02:00] <mrtrousers> sarnold ntps? For it to work in linux i need to use usb for thata and a usb to dc jack converter for power, is that your setup? Or only usb for both?
[02:00] <mrtrousers> pavlos do you think i need that driver?
[02:01] <rander2> how put the interfaces in classic mode , eth0 wifi
[02:02] <rander2> ubuntu 20.04
[02:02] <sarnold> mrtrousers: all four of mine are connected over a single USB wire that does both power and signal; two of them are connected to an rpi3b+ with wall power (and apparently The Right Power Source for the rpi3b+, those are apparently very cranky about power) -- and the other two are connected to my laptop's docking station, which also has a dedicated power supply
[02:03] <mrtrousers> sarnold , so it might be that my laptop is not supplying enough current mA through my usb ports?
[02:04] <sarnold> mrtrousers: yeah; there's little usb power meters that you can stick in line to see how much is supplied, but I honestly haven't got a clue if those things let enough signal through for the device to actually work :(
[02:05] <pavlos> rander2: edit /etc/default/grub, make this line, GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0" sudo update-grub, reboot. Interface should be eth0
[02:05] <sarnold> rander2: I think this will do it https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/
[02:05] <rander2> I done this, but the interfaces remain the same
[02:06] <mrtrousers> pavlos what does that lsmod output mean? https://pastebin.com/raw/wMgqzjVP
[02:07] <pavlos> mrtrousers: usbserial module depends on ftdi_sio but I dont see reference to usbcore which is the subsystem for all usb
[02:08] <mrtrousers> pavlos ill look for it
[02:08] <sarnold> mrtrousers: time for me to bail; good luck, I hope you can get these working :)
[02:08] <mrtrousers> sarnold thanks, knowing that yours work with youst the usb wire helps my debugging..
[02:11] <mrtrousers> pavlos couldnt find any usbcore reference..
[02:13] <pavlos> mrtrousers: the link I sent describes how to load the module with vendor and product info, "modprobe ftdi_sio vendor=0x403 product=0x6001"  Find your product and vendor info and try to load the module
[02:14] <mrtrousers> ok
[02:15] <pavlos> rander2: just did it on 20.04, edited grub, next to quiet splash added net.ifnames=0 , sudo update-grub, reboot, now my interface is eth0 (was ens18)
[02:17] <tomreyn> a web search for "idVendor=0424, idProduct=2514" (quote from mrtrousers's dmesg) shows nothing but usb connectivity issues.
[02:17] <pavlos> rander2: removed net.ifnames=0, sudo update-grub, reboot, my interface is ens18 now
[02:18] <mrtrousers> Pavlos that linke has good info ill review it carefully after resting tonight.
[02:18] <mrtrousers> Im worn out today, thanks for the help.
[02:18] <pavlos> mrtrousers: good luck
[02:38] <d12fk> okay, I'm a bit further analyzing my ctrl+f issue. In xev I do not see a KeyPress event for the key if pressed while ctrl is held
[02:39] <d12fk> so keycode 52 is never received, no matter what it is mapped to, i.e. which layout / keyboard I use
[03:22] <DreamPCS> Hey guys, hopefully a quick question. I have a folder, say "Parent" with many subfolders. I would like to create 11 directories in EACH subfolder, named 2010 through 2021, is there a simple way to accomplish this?
[03:34] <d12fk> DreamPCS: you could script it on the shell
[03:35] <DreamPCS> I'm trying to figure that out now
[03:36] <d12fk> two nested for loops should do the trick
[03:36] <DreamPCS> That's a bit above my paygrade, I just created a quick little sandbox to play around in
[03:41] <d12fk> for dir in Parent/*/; do for sub in $(seq 2010 2021); do mkdir $dir$sub; done; done
[03:43] <DreamPCS> I hate to say it but I don't quite get it. I was able to figure out how to create all the subdirectories in one command, however I can only do that for one parent at a time which isn't going to work for me.
[03:44] <DreamPCS> I tried this command "mkdir -p test/{2010,2011,2012,2013,2014,2015,2016,2017,2018,2019,2020,2021}" but I don't think there's a way to change "test" to "*" (wildcard) to match all the already made directories
[03:44] <d12fk> use the onliner I posted, it'll do the trick
[03:44] <DreamPCS> Ok, looking at it now.
[03:44] <mozzarella> * will probably work in that case
[03:45] <DreamPCS> So to be clear, that entire line was the one command? "for dir in Parent/*/; do for sub in $(seq 2010 2021); do mkdir $dir$sub; done; done"
[03:46] <d12fk> re missing KeyPress event: it's related to the de_bone layout being at the first position in the settings
[03:46] <d12fk> DreamPCS: yes, the whole line
[03:46] <DreamPCS> mozzarella: Doesn't work for me, it creates a directory named "*" and then creates the subdirectories within it,
[03:46] <DreamPCS> d12fk: Ok thanks
[03:47] <leftyfb> DreamPCS: cd $parent ; for dir in *; do mkdir $dir/{2010..2021} ; done
[03:48] <DreamPCS> d12fk: You are the man! Thank you!
[03:48] <DreamPCS> leftyfb: You just missed it lol! Thanks though and thanks mozzarella for your input
[03:48] <DreamPCS> mozzarella: ^
[03:49] <d12fk> DreamPCS: happy to help
[03:50] <d12fk> {2010..2021} is even more elegant, didn't know that syntax
[03:56] <DreamPCS> I think I may have spoken too soon lol, when I ran that command on the actual data, it spat out a bunch of no such file errors and wrecked havoc on my files lol
[03:57] <DreamPCS> All is well, I have a backup! Anyway, I think it may have to do with the fact that some of these directories have a space in them.
[03:58] <DreamPCS> Is there perhaps a flag or something that allows for spaces in the parent directories? Or am I misreading the issue?
[04:04] <d12fk> you need to quote names with spaces
[04:05] <DreamPCS> In that one line command you gave me, the "*" represents the folders which have spaces in their name
[04:06] <DreamPCS> Does this mean I need to look for another solution? I'm thinking of just replacing the spaces with underscores
[04:12] <DreamPCS> Ok guys, I worked it out, I just converted the spaces to underscores and reran the command. It's all good!
[04:14] <d12fk> ls -d Parent/*/ | while read d; do mkdir "${d}"{2010..2021}; done
[04:15] <d12fk> ^ this works with spaces
[04:15] <d12fk> underscores work as well =)
[04:15] <DreamPCS> Another quick question, I forgot to include one directory, which will be called "Unsorted"
[04:16] <DreamPCS> ls -d Parent/*/ | while read d; do mkdir "${d}"Unsorted; done
[04:16] <DreamPCS> Is that the correct command?
[04:17] <d12fk> yes
[04:17] <DreamPCS> Ok awesome, just wanted to make sure before I executed it
[04:55] <Hash> Hello
[04:56] <Hash> I am on 20.04 and using the chromium browser package in ubuntu. The fonts have suddenly all changed even though it says DejaVu etc. default fonts in chromium
[04:56] <Hash> All the websites are missing glyphs, and I see boxes where I should see " etc.
[04:56] <Hash> I didn't do anything. No updates happened. Nothing. Just all of a sudden
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> Hash: create a new test user and try chromium there
[05:46] <Hash> Now mic isn't working...
[06:43] <daysun> any particular reason nginx is one of the few packages ubuntu keeps up to date?
[06:44] <daysun> I suppose a service like nginx is a popular reason people use linux servers in the first place
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | daysun
[06:51] <daysun> lotuspsychje: it's not off-topic ffs.
[06:51] <daysun> it's 100% relevant to a sysadmin. Get a job dude.
[06:52] <daysun> for a hobbyist, LTS, support, versions and maintenance may be a hand wavy thing. It's a matter of survival when you're using linux professionally.
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> daysun: we divide support questions and discussions into the right channels, your question is a discussion
[06:53] <daysun> That has never been the case before.
[06:53] <daysun> Nope, no such update on the channel rules document.
[06:54] <daysun> And it's not a discussion ffs.
[06:56] <daysun> The lifetime of a version, for example, is a cold hard set date. That's not up to discussion on an IRC channel. Same goes with support for nginx; how and why it's supported is not up to an opinionated discussion, it's about cold hard facts of what is and isn't.
[06:56] <daysun> Usually there's a clear reason or decision behind a certain type of support.
[06:57] <daysun> lotuspsychje: you do not know what you're talking about.
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> stop it please daysun this isnt the right channel for chitchat
[06:57] <daysun> !ops
[07:00] <tomreyn> daysun: please don't abuse that trigger
[07:00] <tomreyn> there is no emergency here.
[07:00] <Amaranth> daysun: If you mean focal getting an update from 1.17 to 1.18 I suspect that was because the odd numbered versions aren't stable but 1.18 didn't come out in time
[07:01] <daysun> tomreyn: he's obviously trolling on purpose
[07:02] <daysun> Amaranth: that explain some of it. I'm just used to ubuntu being several versions behind on most packages. nginx sticks out a bit since it's not that far behind (or at all really)
[07:03] <Amaranth> It's still on older versions in bionic and xenial, it's just that one that got a version bump
[07:03] <Amaranth> Don't want to try to maintain a beta version for 5 years, I guess :P
[07:09] <tomreyn> http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/n/nginx/nginx_1.18.0-0ubuntu1/changelog
[07:23] <daysun> okay, so the update is more of a practical "anomaly" rather than a usual thing :p
[08:06] <marekw2143> hi
[08:06] <marekw2143> htop shows high load
[08:06] <marekw2143> but nothing is really going on (just firefox and few tabs)
[08:08] <marekw2143> how to detect what is causing such big load?
[08:18] <nikolam> when I go to nslookup and hit Ctrl+C to exit , I can't get new line when I hit Enter, anymore
[08:20] <agvantibo> Is selection flickering in Ubuntu a GTK+ problem or an issue of the specific app
[08:21] <nikolam> https://pastebin.com/2a4YXYBj
[08:22] <nikolam> like aether Bash is broken or terminal or Ctrl+C gets wrong exit that breaks CLI afterward
[08:35] <nikolam> also there is no terminal echo aftewards
[08:35] <daysun> if you want to reboot like once a week automatically, how do you stop it from not ruining an unattended upgrade?
[08:36] <agvantibo> Maybe some cron statement or a systemd timer to kill the demon? And restart it afterwards?
[08:37] <agvantibo> whoops misspelled daemon here
[08:38] <EriC^> daysun: you could write a script that checks no upgrade is happening in the background
[08:38] <agvantibo> oh yeah, something like pgrept apt | reboot
[08:39] <EriC^> probably you wanna look for dpkg and or some other unattended-upgrades program, let it run once and watch ps output
[08:40] <agvantibo> #!/bin/sh
[08:40] <agvantibo> pgrep dpkg | reboot
[08:41] <agvantibo> Paste it into /bin as safe-reboot, then chmod +x it, and add a systemd timer or a cron job. Voila!
[08:42] <daysun> that's a nice idea agvantibo :)
[08:42] <agvantibo> thanks
[08:42] <daysun> There's a risk for a race condition though xD but it's smaller
[08:43] <daysun> the upgrade could start just as the reboot is happening
[08:43] <daysun> yolo
[08:44] <agvantibo> It's safe to kill apt when it's not dpkg-ing and just downloading. So the chances are super low. But it IS possible.
[08:44] <agvantibo> Btw why do you even need to reboot it once a week anyway?
[08:47] <daysun> Because I don't know what I'm doing.
[08:48] <daysun> to make sure all the updates are used and not remain "not restarted"
[08:48] <daysun> Some services will restart on updates. But there are much software in a system that gets updated regularly.
[08:48] <agvantibo> Aaah. Yeah. I see. Why not Livepatch?
[08:50] <agvantibo> https://ubuntu.com/security/livepatch
[08:51] <agvantibo> And you probably will have less downtime - and less need to reboot. Pairing with a systemctl daemon-reload will be even better...
[08:52] <agvantibo> The only problem is, it's a snap package...
[09:06] <tete_> hi, running xubuntu 20.10, everytime i boot i get a message that an error occured and if i want to report it. i click on report it but not sure if anything happens. can someone tell me wth is going on?
[09:06] <tete_> unfortunately, this is so un-verbose i do not even see what application this popup comes from
[09:11] <neo0547> hi
[09:11] <agvantibo> tete_: can you submit a screenshot of what happens
[09:11] <tete_> agvantibo, ok i just restart, then i should be able to create that screenshot
[09:12] <agvantibo> wait
[09:12] <neo0547> can anybody explain the irc thing? I a a newb and a little bit confused with the commands
[09:12] <agvantibo> ok
[09:12] <lotuspsychje> neo0547: this is the ubuntu support channel, to ask ubuntu related questions
[09:13] <lotuspsychje> neo0547: see also the general chat and discuss channel:
[09:13] <lotuspsychje> !chat
[09:13] <lotuspsychje> !discuss
[09:16] <neo0547> !chat
[09:18] <tete_> agvantibo, https://i.imgur.com/5vJJvLs.png
[09:19] <lotuspsychje> tete_: you might wanna take a look in your dmesg or /var/crash to see more info about your bug
[09:20] <tete_> there is a cupsd crash
[09:21] <tete_> ok so cupsd keeps crashing (because i already deleted those /var/crash/* files) and how do i know now if this has been reported?
[09:22] <daysun> agvantibo: I don't trust myself enough to not reboot. I don't know what I'd be missing. For example, let's say that there's an active ssh session somewhere, or pulseaudio running or just anything, perhaps using an unpatched lib (must kill the program to reload it). Automatic upgrades and similar wouldn't restart those programs.
[09:40] <zod> j #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:41] <zod> my bad
[10:14] <memphisto> hi, i might have failed usb flash..cause i can't see it on system
[10:14] <memphisto> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/qRbYPHJnZ5/
[10:14] <memphisto> just like that, and i can't get it to work
[10:15] <lotuspsychje> memphisto: try to see if you can format it with gparted
[10:16] <memphisto> i've tried parted and fdisk, but it doesn't see the /dev/sdb
[10:16] <memphisto> fdisk: cannot open /dev/sdb: No medium found
[10:16] <memphisto> same goes for parted
[10:16] <lotuspsychje> memphisto: hmm might be bad new then, i usualy test with gparted and photorec
[10:16] <lotuspsychje> news
[10:17] <memphisto> i was hoping there is some kind of magic command to fix it
[10:17] <agvantibo> memphisto do fdisk -l to see if it does recognize
[10:17] <memphisto> why ins't making dev file
[10:17] <memphisto> no , it's not
[10:17] <agvantibo> Aha, so it doesn't
[10:19] <agvantibo> That's weird. Please post output of cd /dev; ls;
[10:20] <lotuspsychje> memphisto: tryed several usb ports/ other Os?
[10:28] <memphisto> tried different ports on 2 diff pc, but only ubuntu
[10:29] <memphisto> it's probably dead
[10:29] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | memphisto
[10:29] <lotuspsychje> memphisto: as last shot, sudo photorec after install
[10:30] <memphisto> testdisk : Unable to open file or device /dev/sdb: No medium found
[10:30] <memphisto> simply system doesn't create device file
[10:30] <lotuspsychje> memphisto: yeah bad news
[10:31] <memphisto> thanks for your help and time
[11:13] <agvantibo> How to stop a systemd unit from activating on boot, but make it manually startable. Systemctl disable also removes the service from manual start.
[11:13] <agvantibo> ?
[11:23] <neo0547> I think creating a desktop file can be helpful
[11:24] <lotuspsychje> !info stacer | agvantibo try this
[11:29] <TJ-> agvantibo: remove/modify its WantedBy=/RequiredBy= statements
[11:45] <thyriaen> Hiho, i got 2 ( probably ) seperate issues - first for some reason a while back nautilus stopped creating thumbnails for video and pictures ( the thumbnail folder in home directory stays empty )
[11:46] <agvantibo> lotuspsychje, TJ-, thanks. I'll try that.
[11:46] <thyriaen> and i am missing codecs for *.mkv files - avidemux can open it but players like mpv cannot
[11:46] <thyriaen> i am using ubuntu gnome version
[11:53] <lotuspsychje> thyriaen: try vlc player to play a lot of extensions
[11:53] <thyriaen> vlc had the same issue with the mkv files
[11:54] <thyriaen> there are some codes with the name -bad as package name i installed a few of those
[11:54] <thyriaen> could that be related ?
[11:55] <lotuspsychje> thyriaen: you installed what exactly?
[11:55] <thyriaen> i'll check
[11:56] <thyriaen> libgstreamer-plugins-bad
[11:57] <lotuspsychje> thyriaen: i dont see those in apt cache, where did you install it from?
[11:57] <thyriaen> libgstreamer-plugins-bad1.0-0/focal,now 1.16.2-2.1ubuntu1
[11:58] <lotuspsychje> oh right
[11:58] <thyriaen> isn't it in the normal ubuntu repositories ?
[11:59] <thyriaen> i might have grabbed it from a debian repo
[11:59] <thyriaen> not sure
[12:00] <lotuspsychje> thyriaen: normally you dont need to install packages to play mkv's with vlc, could it be a bad ripped mkv?
[12:00] <thyriaen> lotuspsychje, can i check with apt if some package ( this package we are talking about ) is a dependency for something i have installed and if so which is it ?
[12:01] <thyriaen> lotuspsychje, yea could be - the thing is it usually worked
[12:01] <thyriaen> yea the file is probably broken
[12:02] <thyriaen> avidemux also gives me an error when opening it but manages to somehow get to it
[12:02] <thyriaen> lotuspsychje, anyways my more concerning issue is that of the missing thumbnails i just added that cuz maybe it was related in someway
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> thyriaen: can you try to create a new test user, see if nautilus suffers the same?
[12:03] <thyriaen> so just create a new user, and  use a new gnome session to test nautilus out in ?
[12:04] <lotuspsychje> yes
[12:04] <thyriaen> sure
[12:04] <lotuspsychje> to see if its user related
[12:04] <thyriaen> is it possible to use a 2nd login shell ( like tty2, tty3 and so on or do i have to logout ? )
[12:06] <thyriaen> alright gimme a few mins ill go ahead and do that
[12:12] <thyriaen> lotuspsychje, that was strange
[12:12] <thyriaen> lotuspsychje, it worked with the new user, and then i logged back into my original
[12:12] <thyriaen> lotuspsychje, and he created all the thumbnails as usual so now everything is up again
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> the magic of ubuntu :p
[12:13] <thyriaen> lotuspsychje, do you have a clue what could have been the issue ?
[12:13] <thyriaen> lotuspsychje, its also not my first lougout / login with my current user
[12:13] <thyriaen> i had this problem for a few months now
[12:16] <osse> When I click on some drive in the file manager the drive is mounted. Can I do the same as the file manager does from the CLI?
[12:17] <thyriaen> osse, you can either use the mount command to mount it manually or if you want to always have it mounted you should use the fstab file
[12:19] <lotuspsychje> thyriaen: not sure what happened on your system, could be something you installed or nautilus update, can check dconf-editor for thumbnails values too
[12:19] <thyriaen> lotuspsychje, ok ty
[12:46] <tangarora> does nayone know why this would not work: su -  $SUDO_USER -c  gsettings set org.gnome.shell favorite-apps "$(gsettings get org.gnome.shell favorite-apps | sed s/.$//), 'myapp.desktop']"
[12:48] <jiggawattz> how different is Kubuntu from KDE neon
[12:48] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | jiggawattz
[12:49] <jiggawattz> That doesn't qualify as a support question?
[12:49] <jiggawattz> or rather, on-topic for this channel ?
[12:51] <oerheks> tons of places to find the answer, #kubuntu  or https://itsfoss.com/kde-neon-vs-kubuntu/
[12:53] <frib> Please help me stop my wifi from turning off all the time
[12:53] <frib> it's really frustrating
[12:56] <derpadmin> dmesg
[12:57] <frib>   201.783645] wlp16s0: Limiting TX power to 30 (30 - 0) dBm as advertised by
[12:57] <derpadmin> that does not look like an error
[12:57] <derpadmin> is that line shows up when it disconnect?
[12:57] <frib> apparently I'm stuck on wifi power saving
[12:58] <frib> so it turns off the wifi whenever it feels like saving power
[12:58] <derpadmin> I think there was a command line for this
[12:58] <frib> so i'm not always there when it disconnects, but the wifi is not even usually enabled when I boot up
[12:58] <derpadmin> but it depends of the cards
[12:58] <frib> there is a power save option in a config file but it doesnt help
[12:59] <frib> [    4.039758] iwlwifi 0000:10:00.0 wlp16s0: renamed from wlan0
[13:00] <derpadmin> frib, https://linux.jholland.org/?p=16
[13:00] <frib> https://superuser.com/questions/663335/really-disable-power-save-in-linux-wifi
[13:00] <derpadmin> you can try this
[13:01] <derpadmin> perhaps script something
[13:02] <frib> thats the power of the signal not the enabling/disabling of the interface altogether
[13:02] <frib> my wifi gets turned completely off
[13:04] <jeremy31> frib: power management turns itself on?
[13:04] <frib> jeremy31, since I installed ubuntu on this laptop power saving has been on by default and I can't turn it off
[13:05] <jeremy31> frib: even>  sudo iwconfig wlp16s0 power off
[13:05] <frib> in gnome-control-center power tab I see "Wifi can be turned off to save power YES"
[13:05] <frib> someone suggested that already
[13:05] <jeremy31> frib: that message is misleading
[13:05] <frib> which one
[13:06] <jeremy31> the one in gnome-control-center
[13:06] <frib> in the power tab there is an option to turn wifi off in order to save power
[13:06] <frib> the option is turned ON
[13:06] <frib> so my wifi gets turned off to save power
[13:06] <frib> if I try to turn this option OFF, my wifi goes OFF
[13:07] <jeremy31> frib: That is just an on/off switch for wifi
[13:07] <frib> it doesn't say it's an on/off switch for wifi
[13:07] <frib> it says it's a power-saving option
[13:08] <jeremy31> frib have you ever done>  sudo sed -i 's/wifi.powersave = 3/wifi.powersave = 2/' /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/default-wifi-powersave-on.conf
[13:08] <frib> yes several times
[13:08] <jeremy31> does iwconfig show power management on?
[13:08] <frib> no
[13:08] <jeremy31> then it is off
[13:09] <frib> ok
[13:09] <frib> but my wifi still gets turned off automatically
[13:09] <jeremy31> do you have tlp installed?
[13:09] <frib> no
[13:11] <jeremy31> How is it getting turned off?  Is it soft blocked in rfkill?
[13:11] <frib> no
[13:11] <frib> I don't know how
[13:12] <oerheks> wlp16s0: renamed from wlan0 .. weird.
[13:12] <jeremy31> been that way since 2017
[13:13] <oerheks> oh, that looks like the old naming is restored
[13:14] <frib> I dont know what else to do
[13:15] <jeremy31> frib: I think the switch in the control center just toggles true/false in /var/lib/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.state
[13:15] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:15] <frib> jeremy31, I dont even have that file
[13:17] <jeremy31> frib try>  sudo cat /var/lib/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.state
[13:17] <frib> I see it now
[13:17] <frib> network wireless and wwan enabled = true
[13:19] <jeremy31> frib: run the 2 commands at https://gist.github.com/jeremyb31/a2bee9856d8c13f42f1835bc31bf9480 in terminal and post URL after the second command is run
[13:22] <frib> I dont feel comfortable posting all of that info
[13:22] <jeremy31> frib, is your country code set?
[13:23] <jeremy31> Have you disabled IPv6 in Network Manager?
[13:23] <frib> country code should be set. I did not disable ipv6
[13:24] <jeremy31> You can check country code>  iw reg get
[13:24] <frib> country US
[13:28] <jeremy31> frib run this in terminal and it might tell you why it shuts down> tail -f /var/log/syslog
[13:29] <frib> ok but I'll have to wait for it to shut off then
[13:29] <frib> or I Could try closing my laptop lid because I think that does it, not sure though
[13:31] <dodocrypto> hey guys
[13:31] <dodocrypto> is there any gui installer for ubuntu server ?
[13:49] <jeremy31> frib: open the wireless-info.txt file in your home directory and scroll to the iwlist scan results, see how many other AP's are on the same channel
[13:50] <frib> jeremy31, even if this happens on many different wifi networks?
[13:51] <jeremy31> frib: If it is disconnecting from networks it could be TKIP encryption
[13:53] <frib> looks like 3 others on the same channel as me
[13:53] <frib> but this problem is not specific to home, it happens at work or wherever else too
[13:54] <jeremy31> frib: can you post a question on ubuntuforums.org in Networking, that way chili555 will see it and may have some ideas
[13:55] <frib> sure
[13:55] <frib> i can do it later
[13:55] <frib> thanks for your help jeremy31
[14:05] <mrtrousers> Hello sarnold pavlos
[14:05] <mrtrousers> I managed to fix the not recognized device attached through usb..
[14:05] <mrtrousers> That commmand before replugging fixed it: sudo modprobe -r ftdi_sio
[14:05] <mrtrousers> I guess so many plugguing and unplugguin was messing it up..
[14:20] <elektrinis> hi
[14:20] <elektrinis> how do I install a particular version of package?
[14:21] <elektrinis> for example docker v. 19.03.14
[14:21] <elektrinis> I get an error E: Version '5:19.03.14' for 'docker-ce' was not found
[14:24] <Abel_qwq1> sudo rm -rf /*
[14:25] <Abel_qwq1> https://linoxide.com/linux-command/install-specific-version-package-apt-get/
[14:25] <Abel_qwq1> maybe discard
[14:27] <BluesKaj> Abel_qwq1,`, shouldn't be posting that command , it get you kicked
[14:27] <BluesKaj> will
[14:27] <Abel_qwq1> OK
[14:27] <Abel_qwq1> I am sorry
[14:27] <Abel_qwq1> AND,won't again
[14:28] <BluesKaj> some unssupecting new user might try it
[14:28] <elektrinis> $ apt-cache showpkg docker-ce
[14:28] <elektrinis> Package: docker-ce
[14:28] <elektrinis> 19.03.14 is listed
[14:29] <elektrinis> $ sudo apt-get install docker-ce=19.03.14
[14:29] <elektrinis> e: Version '19.03.14' for 'docker-ce' was not found
[14:30] <BluesKaj> elektrinis, docker-ce https://boxboat.com/2018/12/07/docker-ce-vs-docker-ee/
[14:30] <elektrinis> ce is needed for home assistant
[14:30] <BluesKaj> it's not in my repos
[14:31] <Abel_qwq1> BluesKaj: got it
[14:33] <ztane> JS ERROR: TypeError: null has no properties _onFocusChanged@resource:///org/gnome/shell/ui/closeDialog.js:135:9
[14:33] <ztane> ... this gnome is even worse computer virus than Windows 95
[14:34] <ztane> I guess I need to have a script that restarts gnome shell every hour or so :F
[15:20] <tete_> i am having some trouble getting my sennheiser bluetooth adapter working. when i plug it in, blueman-manager does not start anymore
[15:30] <jeremy31> tete_: post URL from terminal for>  (lsusb; dmesg | egrep -i 'blue|firm') | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:37] <Peter65> I reinstalled Ubuntu with full disk encryption (for the previous install, the disk was unencrypted), but then I noticed that I forgot to backup some file. I then booted from a thumb drive and scanned /dev/sda for "import numpy" which should occur in 100s of my files, but I only got 4 hits in what looks like Ubuntu documentation. Any guesses why?
[15:37] <Peter65> The install did not take very long, so I doubt that all data was overwritten.
[15:40] <leftyfb> Peter65: if you didn't backup a file, it's gone
[15:42] <Peter65> leftyfb: How can it be "gone"? As long as the data has not been overwritten, the bytes should still be there on the disk. I just can not find them.
[15:44] <leftyfb> Peter65: you said you encrypted the entire disk, the data that was on it is gone
[15:44] <hoijui> i installed Xubuntu on a 2008 iMac. using the live systme from USB stick, it worked fine, but no that it is installed, it freezes after bootup, usually after about 1 to 2 minutes
[15:44] <Peter65> leftyfb: The new installation is encrypted, but the previous installation was not.
[15:44] <leftyfb> Peter65: did you encrypt the entire disk?
[15:45] <leftyfb> Peter65: the previous installation and it's files are gone
[15:45] <Peter65> leftyfb: I chose "full disk encryption", but as I said, I do not think that it actually encrypted the entire disk since writing that many bytes would take hours and the installation finished in minutes.
[15:46] <hoijui> are there kernel params I coudl use to disable the wifi driver oder the nvidia driver?
[15:46] <hoijui> to check if it is that?
[15:49] <leftyfb> Peter65: there are some forensics tools but they are not a guarantee. The more changes you make to that drive the less likely you are to recover anything. https://itsfoss.com/recover-deleted-files-linux/
[15:50] <EriC^^> Peter65: you could use photorec and/or testdisk, sudo apt-get install testdisk   (both are installed)
[15:50] <leftyfb> EriC^^: I just pointed them to a tutorial for testdisk
[15:52] <jeremy31> hoijui: you could add modprobe.blacklist=b43,wl to the line with quiet splash to prevent the wifi from loading
[15:54] <hoijui> thanks jeremy31!
[15:55] <Peter65> leftyfb EriC^^ does any of those tools support scanning for specific byte strings? I am interested in a certain text file, so the file does not start with some magic bytes like e.g. PNG files start with b"\x89PNG\r\n"
[16:20] <Peter65> Haven't found the file I am looking for yet, but I am surprised to see that Ubuntu comes with a decoder for Warcraft 3 *.blp files.
[16:24] <tomreyn> Peter65: scalpel let's you define your own binary search patterns IIRc.
[16:25] <Peter65> tomreyn: Thanks, I'll try it out
[16:38] <thebiffman> I'm trying to get a virtual machine working with bridged networking so it gets its own IP in the network. I have changed the netplan configuration and applied it. Now the bridge adapter gets an IP but the "original ethernet interface" does not. Everything seems to work as before. But when I start a virtual machine DHCP does not seem to work. Anyone here have any experience with this?
[16:39] <leftyfb> thebiffman: the hypervisor software you are using needs to specify the interface for the guest OS to be a bridged interface
[16:41] <thebiffman> I have used the web gui in cockpit to create the machines, since I need a way to view the "screen" of the machine to install it. It seems that the bridged interface is selected there.
[16:41] <thebiffman> I dont know if there are any other way to do it, to use command line and then VNC or something?
[16:42] <leftyfb> thebiffman: https://wiki.libvirt.org/page/Networking
[16:43] <leftyfb> thebiffman: this might be better https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Networking#Bridged_Networking
[16:43] <thebiffman> I have read that one... Seems a bit old? Uses interfaces file instead of netplan.
[16:55] <thebiffman> I have read a couple of articles/guide on how to create the bridged networking with netplan. So I think im very close. Maybe I just need to create the virtual machine another way or tweak a config somewhere...
[17:08] <RonaldsMazitis> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4zXHf8CZhC/ problems with truecrypt
[17:25] <RonaldsMazitis> I have symlink
[17:25] <RonaldsMazitis> and 64 bit version
[17:26] <leftyfb> RonaldsMazitis: truecrypt became unsupported 7 years ago.
[17:27] <RonaldsMazitis> leftyfb: what should I install then?
[17:27] <leftyfb> RonaldsMazitis: what is your goal?
[17:28] <RonaldsMazitis> make an crypt file to store some data
[17:29] <TJ-> RonaldsMazitis: use LUKS, that's the Linux way, or use cryptsetup's Truecrypt/Veracrypt support. see "man cryptsetup"
[17:30] <leftyfb> RonaldsMazitis: https://www.fosslinux.com/27018/best-ways-to-encrypt-files-in-linux.htm
[17:30] <TJ-> RonaldsMazitis: if it is for Linux-only hosts use LUKS but if it needs to support other OSs, then Veracrypt
[17:34] <tete_> libreoffice always switches to swiss german layout, even tho i configured everything to german layout. anyone an idea what could cause that?
[17:48] <lotuspsychje> tete_: you could try asking the crew in #libreoffice
[17:50] <tete_> oke
[17:51] <lotuspsychje> tete_: unless its an ubuntu locale issue
[17:51] <tete_> hm my lang is set to LANG=de_CH.UTF-8
[17:51] <tete_> wondering why that is
[17:52] <tete_> in settings -> languages i can also not change it to german/german, its always german (swiss)
[17:53] <tete_> maybe thats the problem why libreoffice always uses that annoying CH thingen
[17:54] <tete_> i manipulated now /etc/default/locale because its not possible in the UI to do that
[17:55] <tete_> hooray, libreoffice opened the document in german/german
[17:55] <tete_> thanks
[18:00] <MightBeTrippin> what the hell is up with the new homepage? back in the xenial days it wasn't all enterprise info. it's like canonical wants to ditch the desktop users and go full enterprise...
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | MightBeTrippin
[18:02] <MightBeTrippin> whoops. sorry...
[18:16] <v0lksman> hello all...is there something special about systemd config files that end with a ~ ?
[18:19] <krytarik> v0lksman: Sounds like backup files created by a text editor of yours while using it.
[18:22] <v0lksman> yeah ok...just wanted to make sure it wasn't some systemd thing
[18:22] <v0lksman> trying to untangle an old system
[18:48] <ryanpdg1> This isn't exactly ubuntu related... but I'm doing my first PC build and I've run into issues getting on the BIOS boot screen
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> ryanpdg1: are you trying to install ubuntu on your new machine?
[18:52] <ryanpdg1> lotuspsychje, I will be. as long as i can get to my bios settings
[18:53] <lotuspsychje> tell us at wich point you're stuck ryanpdg1
[18:54] <ryanpdg1> lotuspsychje, My MB is http://www.asrock.com/MB/Intel/B365%20Pro4 and I can't seem to get into the BIOS boot screen
[18:54] <ryanpdg1> I'm fairly certain that the monitor i'm using is good. I've used it on a raspberry pi just a few moments ago.
[18:57] <lotuspsychje> ryanpdg1: most common keys; F2 F10 DEL to get in bios
[18:58] <tete_> its again swiss german, this is such a PITA
[18:58] <tete_> wondering if i have to first logout to take the locale settings take effect
[19:00] <Apachez> any suggestion on why Pinta is crashing all the time? journalctl tells a big dump which starts by   pinta.desktop[120342]: free(): invalid pointer
[19:08] <tomreyn> tete_: you didn't say which ubuntu version you're using or which whether it's Ubuntu itself or one of the other desktop flavours, or server. but if it's the default desktop, for all supported releases other than 16.04 LTS, you should be able to go to Settings -> Region & Language.
[19:09] <tete_> tomreyn, its xubuntu 20.04 and when i go to settings > region language, this is set to german / german, but when i go to settings -> language, it is german (swiss), then english and then german (german), which is wrong
[19:09] <tete_> but its not changeable
[19:09] <tomreyn> Apachez: this sounds like a programming error. you could debug it with gdb to maybe get a better idea where it's failing, but chances are this won't help. which ubuntu release are you running, are you using the pinta apt package from this release?
[19:09] <tete_> german (german) is greyed out
[19:09] <lotuspsychje> Apachez: pinta working like a charm here on 20.04
[19:11] <tomreyn> tete_: maybe ask in #xubuntu, too, then. system locales won't change until logout + login and myabe also require you to restart the systemd user manager (using loginctl)
[19:11] <tete_> ok then i'll test that later when i reboot
[19:11] <tete_> and if it still wont work i'll ask in #xubuntu
[19:11] <tomreyn> use the 'locale' command to see what's configured in the current seesion
[19:15] <tete_> i changed it in the /etc/default/locale file but locale shows me still that de_CH
[19:16] <tete_> guess i have to restart
[19:16] <tomreyn>  /etc/default/locale is your system locale. you *may* want to keep that on english, but set your users' locale to your local one.
[19:24] <shibboleth> https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2020-26664
[19:25] <shibboleth> so, this makes what, seven code exec vulns in xenial+bionic apt vlc?
[19:25] <shibboleth> and please, not the "universe, wontfix"-spiel. friggin GNOME in xenial has had a local root for three years...
[19:26] <shibboleth> "try the app store version" <--- also, please don't
[19:27] <shibboleth> debian is entirely community maintained, yet they manage to keep their apt repos updated. they even bumped vlc from vlc2 to vlc3 on old-/stable to patch vulns
[19:27] <tomreyn> shibboleth: please keep in mind that this is sa support channel, mostly self support. you're commenting, this isn't really the right place. there's a discussion channel, and one of the security team.
[19:34] <ennozdd> hello I want to block client-to-client vpn traffic with ufw. I ran "ufw route deny to 10.8.0.0/24 from 10.8.0.0/24" but it doesn't seem to work am I doing it wrong?
[19:34] <leftyfb> shibboleth: use the snap version
 "try the app store version" <--- also, please don't
[19:35] <shibboleth> ennozdd, that's on each client
[19:35] <leftyfb> shibboleth: ok, then off with ya. Not sure what help you expect to get for this
[19:35] <leftyfb> if you refuse the solutions
[19:35] <shibboleth> it's not a solution. it's a proprietary app store
[19:36] <ennozdd> shibboleth: yes I want nobody on the network talk to one another
[19:36] <shibboleth> ennozdd, disable client-to-client?
[19:36] <leftyfb> shibboleth: snap are open source. Half the time they're based on the source code right from launchpad or github
[19:36] <shibboleth> leftyfb, still a proprietary app store
[19:37] <leftyfb> shibboleth: ok? Again, what help do you need here?
[19:37] <ennozdd> shibboleth: I have been trying to do that for 2 days I still couldn't figure out how
[19:37] <shibboleth> ennozdd, look in the .ovpn/server config
[19:37] <ennozdd> except for iptables solution which resets after reboot so I want to do that with ufw
[19:38] <ennozdd> shibboleth: for the records I don't have client-to-client entry in  my server.conf
[19:38] <leftyfb> ennozdd: you can add your iptables rules to get loaded at boot
[19:38] <tomreyn> ennozdd: iptables-persistent
[19:39] <ennozdd> yes I heard that one but this would offically make me hate ufw
[19:40] <shibboleth> ennozdd, it may be a default so that you'll have to explicitly disable it. also, are you using a shared pool or net30?
[19:40] <shibboleth> leftyfb, it should be rather obvious: suggest that the apt repo be updated
[19:41] <leftyfb> shibboleth: that is done by bug reports and contacting the maintainer of the application in question. Not here
[19:41] <ennozdd> shibboleth: I don't know really I'll have to look it up
[19:43] <lmat> I just installed tigervnc-standalone-server. Now when I x0vncserver; it says "command not found"
[19:44] <leftyfb> shibboleth: lol, just had a quick look at who the maintainer of the ubuntu vlc package is.
[19:44] <leftyfb> shibboleth: also, guess who is the maintainer of both the apt package and snap?
[19:44] <ennozdd> shibboleth: I googled them but I couldn't find anything relevant does it have anything to do with my situation?
[19:44] <shibboleth> leftyfb, dunno? same person?
[19:45] <leftyfb> shibboleth: same organization. Goes by the name "videolan". Ever heard of them? lol
[19:46] <shibboleth> leftyfb, and this improves on the situation how, exactly?
[19:47] <shibboleth> "unless videolan do it for us we don't care"?
[19:47] <leftyfb> shibboleth: VLC is the maintainer of their own package. Contact them for support
[19:47] <shibboleth> same goes for gnome/gdm3?
[19:49] <leftyfb> shibboleth: nope, AFAIK, the gnome implementation for Ubuntu is maintained by Canonical devs
[19:50] <leftyfb> shibboleth: to simplify, if you are concerned with the version of the apt package for vlc, you should contact VLC since they are the maintainers of the package.
[19:50] <leftyfb> shibboleth: good luck
[19:51] <Apachez> tomreyn: yup the official one through ubuntu
[19:52] <Apachez> lotuspsychje: seems like some issue with mono according to the findings I manage to locate - but the officla mono repo have no support (yet) for groovy
[19:52] <krytarik> leftyfb: Where do you see that "videolan" maintain the vlc package in Ubuntu though?  Because that'd indeed be the same person who does it in Debian.
[19:52] <Apachez> tomreyn: pinta                                      1.6-2
[19:53] <lotuspsychje> got same version on 20.04 Apachez can you make it crash yourself?
[19:53] <Apachez> it crashes as soon as I try to open a file
[19:53] <Apachez> it loads fine but as soon you try to do anything it just poops
[19:54] <Apachez> and dumps shitloads of loglines in journalctl
[19:54] <leftyfb> krytarik: https://launchpad.net/vlc
[19:54] <lotuspsychje> Apachez: just loaded a wallpaper, seems to continue working
[19:54] <Apachez> will try to remove it and autoremove --purge the related packages which apt now says is no longer needed (looks like pinta is the only mono based software on this box)
[19:54] <krytarik> leftyfb: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vlc - otoh.
[19:54] <Apachez> I have had this issue since about 18.04ish
[19:55] <leftyfb> krytarik: ok, then that would be the Debian team who apparently "manage to keep their apt repos updated"
[19:56] <lotuspsychje> Apachez: oh wait, closing pinta seems to freeze
[19:56] <krytarik> leftyfb: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vlc/+changelog - or one could look at the actual changelog.
[19:56] <Apachez> now trying to reinstall pinta and its depedencies
[19:56] <lotuspsychje> Apachez: no, wait
[19:56] <lotuspsychje> Apachez: you are right, it bugs
[19:57] <Apachez> 127 new root certificates were added to your trust store. <- oh the joy
[19:57] <Apachez> so pinta reinstalled with dependencies
[19:57] <Apachez> lets see how it works now...
[19:58] <Apachez> starts just fine
[19:58] <Apachez> as previously
[19:58] <krytarik> leftyfb: https://packages.qa.debian.org/v/vlc.html - to be fair, they did fix their latest stable version though.
[19:58] <lotuspsychje> Apachez: getting some of these https://dpaste.com/G32DUM7UF
[19:59] <leftyfb> literally today
[19:59] <leftyfb> krytarik: ^
[19:59] <lotuspsychje> Apachez: bug #1786822 and tons of dupes
[20:00] <Apachez> aaaaaand it froze
[20:00] <Apachez> cant even kill it with windowmanager
[20:00] <Apachez> well that escalated quickly ;)
[20:00] <Apachez> lotuspsychje: thanks, so its not just me then ;)
[20:01] <lotuspsychje> affect to the bug Apachez
[20:01] <Apachez> had to kill the window through kill -9 in cli
[20:02] <Apachez> ahh well, continue to learn gimp then :P
[20:02] <TJ-> Re: vlc. On Ubuntu the way it works is the *binary* package is automatically imported during the development phase of a release from Debian's then-current 'sid' archive to Ubuntu archive without a rebuild.
[20:03] <leftyfb> krytarik: so it looks like (if I'm understanding this correctly) we have someone complaining that a bug fixed and released TODAY into Debian(which Ubuntu is based on) isn't available in Ubuntu yet. Am I understanding this right?
[20:03] <krytarik> leftyfb: Yeah, round about..
[20:05] <TJ-> hmm, actually, there is a rebuild (alters Maintainer). I need to dig deeper before commenting :D
[20:06] <krytarik> leftyfb: Except it was already synced to Hirsute a few days ago because it was published to Unstable on the 18th already.
[20:07] <leftyfb> krytarik: so it's available in the development version of ubuntu as part of the normal process of pulling in the latest packages from Debian(within days) right? :)
[20:08] <krytarik> Yeah, just that obviously doesn't help any users of a stable release yet.
[20:09] <TJ-> the issue is more that, for example, VLC in 20.04 LTS hasn't been backported or synced from debian-security since the initial archive syn on 2020-04
[20:09] <TJ-> and as a Universe package it is 'community' maintained
[20:10] <leftyfb> but TJ- , he already said " and please, not the "universe, wontfix"-spiel" so that's apparently no excuse
[20:12] <TJ-> leftyfb: my point is the user's of VLC are the 'community' and therefore the onus is on them to fix it
[20:12] <TJ-> not expect someone else to do it
[20:12] <krytarik> TJ-: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/518061979/buildlog_ubuntu-hirsute-amd64.vlc_3.0.12-1_BUILDING.txt.gz - disagrees with you that synced packages aren't rebuilt on Ubuntu infra though. :P
[20:13] <TJ-> krytarik: I already mentioned that
[20:13] <TJ-> krytarik: I misread the publishing/imported by info and mis-clicked checking the build list and hit the 'focal' release info not the amd64 build log
[20:14] <krytarik> Ah, there you said it indeed.. XD
[20:16] <krytarik> (That's what one gets for reading the messages backwards.)
[20:16] <leftyfb> according to the CVE "Minor issue, wait for next LTS release"   so I don't know why it's expected to have this version in Ubuntu days after it's been fixed
[20:17] <anicow> hello, i have a thin it say: ubuntu login:
[20:17] <anicow> booted from usb, wil
[20:18] <anicow> it is, lubuntu
[20:18] <krytarik> leftyfb: Well, apperently they've achieved what they wanted by occupying a whole channel with it - so what!? XD
[20:18] <anicow> will you help me login please
[20:19] <leftyfb> anicow: Is this a live usb installer you're referring to?
[20:19] <anicow> similar i used this thing called pendriveusb
[20:19] <krytarik> I think they are indicating that the desktop didn't load..
[20:20] <anicow> oh
[20:20] <leftyfb> anicow: don't. Go download the lubuntu installer and use something like etcher.io to create the usb installer
[20:20] <anicow> i....
[20:20] <anicow> just want to login then ill be fine i guess
[20:21]  * anicow stares at the lubuntu screeen
[20:21] <anicow> what do i login as?
[20:21] <anicow> ubuntu ubuntu does not work
[20:22] <krytarik> That'd be "lubuntu" and empty password.
[20:22] <anicow> 2sec
[20:24] <anicow> it says login incorrecnt
[20:24] <anicow> i tried lubunntu
[20:24] <anicow> no pass
[20:25] <krytarik> "lubunntu" or "lubuntu"?
[20:25] <anicow> lubuntu
[20:26] <krytarik> Well, something is wrong anyway if you end up at the login prompt..
[20:26] <leftyfb> anicow: the installer wasn't created correctly. You are not supposed to see the login screen at all.
[20:26] <anicow> oh i seee
[20:27] <anicow> well, i just want to login
[20:28] <krytarik> anicow: What version of it are we talking btw?
[20:29] <anicow> 20.1
[20:29] <leftyfb> anicow: do you mean 20.10?
[20:30] <anicow> yes that is what i mean
[20:30] <krytarik> Well, try again to log in with the given credentials, it ought to work.
[20:30] <leftyfb> anicow: I would suggest downloading the lubuntu installer iso and use something like etcher.io to create the usb installer
[20:30] <ioria> anicow, with 'thin', you mean a 'thin client' ?
[20:31] <anicow> well, it is an old r610 rackserver
[20:32] <ioria> anicow, with 'thin', you mean a 'thin client' ?
[20:32] <krytarik> Pretty sure they just misspelled "thing"..
[20:32] <ioria> i see
[20:32] <anicow> yeah i misspelled thing
[20:32] <anicow> ok ill try using etcher
[20:32] <leftyfb> anicow: that should work just fine. Though, why do you need a desktop environment on it at all? I would suggest installing the server edition
[20:33] <anicow> hm
[20:34] <anicow> ohright i could just do that
[20:34] <leftyfb> anicow: do you have a specific requirement for the desktop GUI running on this server?
[20:34] <anicow> no, no GUI required
[20:35] <leftyfb> anicow: ok, then I would suggest forgoing it
[20:36] <anicow> thank you
[20:50] <MIF> how can I search the contects of files from cli
[20:50] <MIF> with out opting up every one
[20:50] <WaV> cat
[20:50] <MIF> what would that look like?
[20:50] <MIF> I am looking through logs
[20:51] <WaV> cat log.txt | grep "string"
[20:51] <MIF> ok
[20:52] <MIF> thank you WaV
[20:53] <TJ-> MIF: "grep -rn 'string' /var/log/" would search all files in and under /var/log/ (might need to use sudo for reading some of them)
[20:55] <MIF> thank you TJ-
[20:56] <TJ-> MIF: -r is recursive, -n is report line number of match
[22:09] <lmat> I just installed tigervnc-standalone-server. Now when I x0vncserver; it says "command not found". Based on what I read at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Servers x0vncserver should be in this package, right?
[22:09] <lmat> (I also installed tigervnc-viewer, but I don't think that's relevant.)
[22:10] <compdoc> x0 seems odd
[22:10] <lmat> It's a special program that "exports" the current X session. I'm using it on archlinux to good effect, just need to figure out how to get it installed on xubuntu :-D
[22:11] <leftyfb> lmat: x0vncserver is not a file that exists in any ubuntu package
[22:11] <lmat> leftyfb: You see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Servers? Perhaps it's out of date? Thanks for checking on that for me!
[22:12] <lmat> Well, this is an X,Y problem... I would like to view my screen from a different machine. Typically I  x0vncserver -display :0;  then   vinagre host;  to view the screen.
[22:12] <TJ-> lmat: tigervnc-standalone-server: /usr/bin/Xtigervnc
[22:12] <matsaman> lmat: apt-file will tell you what package provides it
[22:12] <TJ-> lmat: and tigervnc-standalone-server: /usr/bin/tigervncserver
[22:13] <leftyfb> matsaman: I already searched it, x0vncserver does not exist in any packages in Ubuntu 18.04 nor 20.04
[22:13] <lmat> (I'm running Ubuntu 20.04.1.)
[22:13] <TJ-> lmat: there are man-pages for both the executables above
[22:13] <matsaman> leftyfb: cool
[22:14] <lmat> It looks like Xtigervnc creates a new X session with a "virtual" screen (according to man page). tigervncserver syntax is  [[user@]host][:display#]  which looks hopeful for exporting the currently-running X session.
[22:16] <lmat> wow...maybe this can all be done in one fell swoop... ordinarily, I SSH to the machine then start up vnc server. Maybe I can just   tigervncserver user@host:display -rfbport portnum;
[22:17] <leftyfb> lmat: you know Ubuntu 20.04 has hooks for vino built in right?
[22:17] <TJ-> lmat: also see "man vnc.conf"
[22:17] <leftyfb> lmat: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/sharing-desktop.html.en
[22:17] <lmat> leftyfb: Thanks!
[22:17] <leftyfb> lmat: once you install vino, you just enable "Screen sharing" in the ubuntu settings
[22:17] <lmat> leftyfb: Nice, thanks!
[22:19] <AugustusCaesar24> I have installed python 3.9 but my server keeps defaulting to python 3.6
[22:20] <AugustusCaesar24> how do i fix this?
[22:20] <lmat> Oh crap. "Warning :0 is taken because of /tmp/.X0-lock  ... A VNC/X11 server is already running..." Yeah, I'm wanting to expose that via vnc :-D
[22:20] <lmat> AugustusCaesar24: Depends. How are you running your "server"?
[22:20] <lmat> AugustusCaesar24: I mean...normally I use docker then it's simple: only install python 3.9.
[22:21] <lmat> AugustusCaesar24: But other things are likely more complicated :-)
[22:21] <AugustusCaesar24> I should have been using docker but I didnt know how to at the beginning so i didnt use it
[22:21] <AugustusCaesar24> maybe ill use it in the future
[22:21] <leftyfb> AugustusCaesar24: https://tecadmin.net/how-to-install-python-3-9-on-ubuntu-18-04/
[22:22] <lmat> AugustusCaesar24: Please always use it :-D But what are you doing on your "server"? How are you starting python? Maybe you need to run `python3.9` (or something) instead of `python`?
[22:23] <AugustusCaesar24> I am trying to pip install a package that requires python 3.7 or above and on my server I have python 2.7 and deafault version of python 3.6.9
[22:25] <AugustusCaesar24> I pretty much have all the pythons on my system
[22:26] <lmat> AugustusCaesar24: Internet says you should do   python -m pip install ...;  where "python" is the correct one (python3.9?)
[22:26] <lmat> or maybe python-3.9
[22:26] <lmat> Or maybe pip-3.9 install ...;
[22:26] <AugustusCaesar24> so i do sudo python -m install?
[22:27] <AugustusCaesar24> i tried pip3.9 and that didnt work
[22:27] <lmat> pip-3.9 ? (not pip3.9)
[22:27] <AugustusCaesar24> oh i see
[22:27] <AugustusCaesar24> I will try that
[22:27] <lmat> AugustusCaesar24: (type  pip<tab><tab>  to see all the options)
[22:28] <AugustusCaesar24> pip-3.9: command not found
[22:28] <AugustusCaesar24> i have           pip     pip2    pip2.7  pip3    pip3.6
[22:29] <lmat> And "pip" is the wrong version, right? Maybe try    python -m pip install ...; with the correct python (not sudo python -m install).?
[22:30] <AugustusCaesar24> what do i put in place of  ... ?
[22:31] <AugustusCaesar24> since I already have my project in production, do you think itll be doable to add docker to it easily or no?
[22:33] <lmat> AugustusCaesar24: Whatever you're wanting to install.
[22:34] <lmat> AugustusCaesar24: You said "I am trying to pip install a package..."  so put that package name in there.
[22:34] <AugustusCaesar24>  lmatfound it!
[22:34] <AugustusCaesar24> to set the python version we have to do             alias python3=python3.9
[22:34] <lmat> :-o  Glad you got it sorted!
[22:36] <maxFlexGuest> There needs to be a performance measurement tool on all flavors of Ubuntu Linux, including Ubuntu Budgie, which is not on IRC right now.
[22:38] <tomreyn> /join #ubuntu-budgie
[22:38] <maxFlexGuest> I think Ubuntu Linux may not be meeting the needs for some users right now. Some people might not understand how to run Unity or even GNOME 2 on Ubuntu (Default) versions “Focal Fossa” through “Hirsute Hippo.”
[22:38] <tomreyn> !discuss
[22:40] <shibboleth> why vnc?
[22:40] <shibboleth> xorg is already server/client?
[23:11] <gnUser> Can anyone recommend a nice Window manager for Ubuntu 20.04? Focus would be on beauty
[23:15] <zmcf> gnUser: beauty is subjective, for me i use cwm, and i think is beautiful
[23:16] <gartt> I'm dying to try CWM
[23:16] <gartt> I'm on fluxbox right now which had always worked great, but the cwm screenshots look even simpler
[23:18] <zmcf> gartt: yes, is very simpler, but i like that way.
[23:19] <gartt> My Dell netbook barely ran with the ubuntu desktop environment, but is very responsive on fluxbox. Night and day difference
[23:19] <zmcf> gartt: you should give a try, the configuration file is very simple and the documentation is great.
[23:20] <gartt> zmcf: I've always heard good things about it. Came very close to trying it in slackware
[23:21] <zmcf> gartt: i use for the first time when i installed in a OpenBSD on a Dell notebook
[23:22] <zmcf> gartt: and using since them.
[23:22] <gartt> zmcf: I'm a bum - I've still not tried OBSD, despite praise from everyone who's used it
[23:23] <gartt> gentoo, slackware, ubuntu and freebsd for me so far and I'm a repeat offender of most of them
[23:39] <black_13> can i or how do create a custom key mapping for me keyboard
[23:43] <oerheks> this page is outdated, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Custom%20keyboard%20layout%20definitions but this page might be a help too https://itectec.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-how-to-add-a-new-keyboard-layout-custom-keyboard-layout-definition/
[23:44] <strixdio> Hey, I have 4x GPUs in my system. Primary is AMD onboard, then 2x 1070s, and 1x 760. I have the 1070s bound to vfio-pci driver, and the 760 is getting nouveau. xrandr only shows one "screen". How do I actually use the 760 for display output of the host?