[12:59] <MauroGaspari[m]> <damy "salve a tutti"> Scusa il ritardo.  Weekend impegnativo
[13:00] <MauroGaspari[m]> !it | damy
[16:46] <sirriffsalot> I'm running Ubuntu Studio 19.10, and I still have some things I'd like to finish off here before I move to 20.04 permanently. I can't install new programs anymore as it's no longer supported, how do I get around this for the moment?
[18:01] <shrapnel[m]> <sirriffsalot "I'm running Ubuntu Studio 19.10,"> AppImage?
[18:02] <sirriffsalot> shrapnel[m]: huh... I never heard of this. Thanks!
[18:33] <distantrelative[> having trouble installing ubuntu studio 20.04 - i select install but it goes to graphic desktop. I then click the install Ubuntu studio link on the desktop then nothing.
[18:33] <distantrelative[> any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
[18:39] <OvenWerks> distantrelative[: have you tried right click execute?
[19:37] <wonko> OvenWerks: card 4: AudioFire4 [AudioFire4], device 0: Fireworks [AudioFire4 PCM]
[19:37] <wonko> using ALSA (the default)
[19:38] <wonko> I can't choose it as the master device in studio controls and it doesn't show up in.... nevermind I think pulseaudio is busted.
[19:38] <wonko> But, should I switch to FFADO or stay with ALSA?
[19:47] <wonko> Oh, FFADO appears to be way better
[19:47] <OvenWerks> It depends on what latency you want to use
[19:48] <OvenWerks> If you are using 256/2 or above ALSA is ok.
[19:49] <OvenWerks> but ffado seems much more stable and I have gone as low as 32/2 with no xruns overnight
[19:50] <wonko> well, seeing as I'm trying to reduce latency with no xruns, FFADO it is. :)
[19:50] <wonko> it doesn't show up in carla though
[19:50] <OvenWerks> It does here.
[19:50] <wonko> oh wait
[19:50] <OvenWerks> but not as system
[19:50] <wonko> nor in studio controls it seems
[19:50] <wonko> hmmm
[19:51] <wonko> it showed up under ALSA
[19:51] <OvenWerks> you have to switch modules and then reboot
[19:51] <OvenWerks> under system tweaks in controls
[19:52] <wonko> yes, I did. I switched to FFADO and rebooted
[19:53] <OvenWerks> so it should be possible to change driver to firewire
[19:53] <wonko> you mean Jack backend?
[19:53] <OvenWerks> yes
[19:53] <OvenWerks>  :)
[19:54] <OvenWerks> ls /dev/fw* should show two devices
[19:54] <wonko> fw0 and fw1, yes
[19:55] <OvenWerks> fw1 is the IF
[19:55] <wonko> wow, jack takes much longer to start now
[19:55] <wonko> hmm, and it just stopped for some reason
[19:56] <OvenWerks> does the logfile say anything?
[19:57] <wonko> where are the jack logs?
[19:57] <OvenWerks> ~/.log/autojack.log
[19:58] <OvenWerks> and it needs to have log level "extra" for the most info.
[19:59] <OvenWerks> also try stop jack, open ffado-mixer and make sure clock is set to internal
[20:01] <wonko> now studio controls won't stop jack. I think I need to re-install 20.04 or do a clean install of 20.10. I think things are kinda boned here now after that unsupported upgrade. :(
[20:01] <wonko> 15:01:45 logginghandler: Could not communicate with the FFADO DBus service...
[20:02] <OvenWerks> yikes!
[20:05] <wonko> Ok, at this point I'm more interested in just verifying that the audiofire works. Maybe switch back to ALSA mode?
[20:05] <OvenWerks> does your unit have any leds on the front?
[20:05] <wonko> yes
[20:05] <OvenWerks> which ones are lit?
[20:06] <wonko> power, +48V and the line level for the mic (which blips when I make noise)
[20:07] <OvenWerks> do you have the af2 or af4?
[20:08] <OvenWerks> do you know if the spdif is input or output? (or both)
[20:09] <wonko> af4, spdif is both
[20:09] <wonko> rather there are two, one for in one for out
[20:11] <wonko> ffado-test Discover hangs, that's not normal, right?
[20:12] <wonko> ffado-test ListDevices returns: 0       0x0014866faf73b593  0x00001486  0x00000AF4   Echo Digital Audio - AudioFire4
[20:13] <wonko> so it's there and can be found
[20:13] <wonko> There are a whole bunch of ffado-dbus-server processes. Is that normal?
[20:16] <wonko> rebooted and now ffado-mixer works. :)
[20:17] <wonko> clock is intrernal
[20:17] <wonko> internal
[20:18] <OvenWerks> good
[20:18] <OvenWerks> mine powers up on wordclock and I have to change it before it will work.
[20:19] <OvenWerks> clock source can not be set with jack runninig (or pulse using it when in alsa mode)
[20:20] <wonko> ok, jack started up and seemed to start better from the logs
[20:20] <wonko> but still nothing in Carla
[20:20] <OvenWerks> how about jack_lsp?
[20:21] <wonko> autjack.log: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JkgdNfM2Pn/
[20:21] <wonko> jack_lsp: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MgP588VffZ/
[20:24] <OvenWerks> I think you may have the bad version of Carla.... or something is different to 20.04
[20:25] <OvenWerks> the logfile looks correct. but the dbus stuff is not working
[20:25] <wonko> I have a feeling this is probably self inflicted
[20:25] <wonko> I'm going to re-install 20.04
[20:26] <wonko> there have been other issues as well that I've mostly been ignoring
[20:26] <OvenWerks> dbus is working between jack, pulse and autojack
[20:27] <OvenWerks> no, sorry that is not a dbus thing.
[20:27] <OvenWerks> it seems to be libjack calls
[20:28] <OvenWerks> Also, this is an old version of studio-controls
[20:29] <OvenWerks> So I expect: Old controls, maybe old jackdbus, and old Carla
[20:29] <OvenWerks> All have known problems
[20:30] <OvenWerks> you may fix some or all of these things by opening ubuntustudio-installer and enabling backports
[20:30] <OvenWerks> and then sudo apt dist-upgrade
[20:33] <OvenWerks> wonko: The problem with Carla sounds like what you have. Carla causes a problem and it affects all other jack clients from then on.
[20:34] <OvenWerks> The backport version has two lines commented out :)
[20:45] <wonko> Ok, I'll try that before the reinstall
[20:45] <wonko> I'll report back
[20:48] <OvenWerks> wonko: I also sometimes use the ocnnection window from qjackctl for making connections
[20:49] <OvenWerks> I do also have a pre-alpha version of Catia hanging around.
[20:55] <wonko> I don't have ubuntustudio-installer?
[20:55] <OvenWerks> under system?
[20:55] <OvenWerks> or run from commandline?
[20:56] <wonko> zsh: command not found: ubuntustudio-installer
[20:57] <OvenWerks> sudo apt install ubuntustudio-installer
[20:57] <OvenWerks> it sounds like a bad install though as that is included in the iso
[20:57] <wonko> remember this is a munged system upgraded from 20.04 to 20.10
[20:58] <wonko> ok, doing dist-upgrade with backports PPA enabled
[20:58] <wonko> should I reboot?
[20:59] <OvenWerks> I don't know, but need to spend time with my wife (she lost an Uncle this morning)
[20:59] <wonko> Oh no!
[20:59] <wonko> that's terrible news
[20:59] <wonko> Go do that. Definitely.
[21:01] <MaynardWaters> hearts go out to you OvenWerks
[21:01] <MaynardWaters> wonko I haven't read this whole convo, but I'm getting qsynth and qjackctl errors after upgrading from ubuntu to ubuntu studio
[21:02] <MaynardWaters> does that sound similar to your issue(s)?