RyuKurisu[m] | Bummer, why is everything I want so hard to do or get? 😔 | 05:38 |
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RyuKurisu[m] | wxl where did you check the availability of xsecurelock? https://packages.ubuntu.com/groovy/xsecurelock | 07:32 |
RyuKurisu[m] | It's actually available since focal: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=xsecurelock&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all | 07:38 |
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KGIII | Hirsute can install ksystemlog without any additional dependencies. For the record, ksystemlog is awesome. My end-user opinion is that it should be installed by default. ;-) | 20:03 |
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wxl | i mean i can kind of see the logic but jeez it's so easy to grep | 20:09 |
lubot | [telegram] <teward001> unless you're a newbie wxl | 20:16 |
lubot | [telegram] <teward001> which 99% of users we see nowadays *are* :P | 20:17 |
KGIII | It's a lovely GUI presentation of your logs. It doesn't get any better than that! I've used it for quite a while as my default go-to when I want to check the logs for issues. Seeing as I'm constantly messing with stuff, it gets used fairly often. | 20:17 |
KGIII | Heck, I'm frequently telling folks to install it and check their logs when they're asking for support on the various sites. | 20:18 |
wxl | ok i get it. make a task on phab, please, with 21.04 as a parent task | 20:18 |
KGIII | I think I have access to that and this will be a good chance for me to learn something. So, I'm going to try to make said task. | 20:20 |
wxl | if you want, i could teach you how to implement it | 20:20 |
wxl | it's actually fairly trivial, albeit you need one of us with superpowers to pull the final lever | 20:21 |
KGIII | One step at a time. LOL | 20:22 |
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KGIII | That was easier than I expected. I think I included enough salient info. | 20:23 |
KGIII | Alright, how do I implement it? | 20:24 |
wxl | ok, so you have to make a change in our seed first, and then in our metapackage. the latter is the more complicated and harder issue but actually one that is entirely programmatic. | 20:26 |
wxl | both can be sent as pull requests (they're called differential revisions according to phabricator) | 20:26 |
wxl | so here's the desktop seed file https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/seed/browse/groovy/desktop | 20:27 |
wxl | it's well organized and should be fairly obvious | 20:27 |
KGIII | It's new to me, but it appears pretty straightforward. | 20:28 |
wxl | so you basically git that repo, make the change, push the change and then do the same thing with the meta repo using the script (and instructions) provided | 20:28 |
KGIII | That is not so intuitive. | 20:29 |
wxl | ok nevermind then :) | 20:29 |
KGIII | LOL Yeah, let's wait on that one. | 20:29 |
KGIII | I did make a task for it, which is a start. | 20:29 |
wxl | yep you sure did! maybe one of these days i'll just sit down and screen record the whole process | 20:30 |
KGIII | I have been meaning to learn git - so give me a bit (weeks is my timeline) and I'll take some online courses to learn git better. | 20:30 |
KGIII | I am still reading the freedesktop specifications. I'm gonna read all of 'em. | 20:31 |
wxl | okie dokie. let me know when you're ready to take the next step | 20:31 |
wxl | you may want to try playing around with github and understanding the process there | 20:31 |
wxl | it's very similar | 20:31 |
KGIII | Will do. I've also been paying attention to the bug triage process, just to see how it goes. | 20:31 |
wxl | so is the merge request process on launchpad | 20:31 |
KGIII | Yeah, I've got a github account and a hello world there. I'll spend some time learning more about that. | 20:33 |
KGIII | There is a lot to learn. For y'all who've been doing it for years, it's probably pretty easy. For me, it's a whole lot of stuff that I know nothing about. That's good - actually. I like learning new things. | 20:33 |
wxl | i could make a play repo on my account and you could send pull requests to it | 20:33 |
KGIII | We shall see - don't do anything yet. I've still got plenty to read and monitor. | 20:34 |
wxl | i just meant something stupid like some lorem ipsum files XD | 20:34 |
lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> Maybe we should have a "hello world" repo? | 20:34 |
lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> Then folks can experience arc. | 20:35 |
KGIII | I'll get there. I've even cloned some projects along the way, so I've got stuff in there to play with. | 20:35 |
wxl | that might be a good idea | 20:35 |
KGIII | It may sound overwhelming or a lot like work, but having some sort of documentation about this process might also be a good idea. | 20:36 |
wxl | maybe we should make a super simple tutorial based on just changing some text | 20:36 |
wxl | OOOOH we could do it for the manual | 20:36 |
wxl | or rather to support contributions to the manual | 20:36 |
lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> Even if it just markdown in phab, that way no one is worried about breaking stuff. | 20:37 |
wxl | yep | 20:37 |
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KGIII | From my perspective (someone new to this) learning things in small steps is good. Even if it's just little things, I learn by doing. I'm going to go order a special external drive just for Lubuntu stuff. | 20:46 |
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KGIII | Are those notifications from someone trying to build those packages? | 22:13 |
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kc2bez[m] | The Lubuntu CI messages are from the automated build system or Jenkins. ci.lubuntu.me shows the output status. let me dig up the wiki page. | 22:51 |
KGIII | That's pretty much what I'd intuited. No need for a wiki page at this time, but I'll read it anyhow. | 22:51 |
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kc2bez[m] | Sure, it goes further in depth. Basically the idea is to replicate the launchpad system on a smaller scale for testing purposes and QA. https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/packaging/ci/ | 22:53 |
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lubot | [telegram] <teward001> that is, when it's operational and the Internet isn't fubar. | 22:57 |
lubot | [telegram] <teward001> ... or when i'm not performing system maintenance xD | 22:57 |
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