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RyuKurisu[m]Bummer, why is everything I want so hard to do or get? 😔05:38
RyuKurisu[m]wxl where did you check the availability of xsecurelock? https://packages.ubuntu.com/groovy/xsecurelock07:32
RyuKurisu[m]It's actually available since focal: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=xsecurelock&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all07:38
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KGIIIHirsute can install ksystemlog without any additional dependencies. For the record, ksystemlog is awesome. My end-user opinion is that it should be installed by default. ;-)20:03
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wxli mean i can kind of see the logic but jeez it's so easy to grep20:09
lubot[telegram] <teward001> unless you're a newbie wxl20:16
lubot[telegram] <teward001> which 99% of users we see nowadays *are* :P20:17
KGIIIIt's a lovely GUI presentation of your logs. It doesn't get any better than that! I've used it for quite a while as my default go-to when I want to check the logs for issues. Seeing as I'm constantly messing with stuff, it gets used fairly often.20:17
KGIIIHeck, I'm frequently telling folks to install it and check their logs when they're asking for support on the various sites. 20:18
wxlok i get it. make a task on phab, please, with 21.04 as a parent task20:18
KGIIII think I have access to that and this will be a good chance for me to learn something. So, I'm going to try to make said task.20:20
wxlif you want, i could teach you how to implement it20:20
wxlit's actually fairly trivial, albeit you need one of us with superpowers to pull the final lever20:21
KGIIIOne step at a time. LOL20:22
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KGIIIThat was easier than I expected. I think I included enough salient info.20:23
KGIIIAlright, how do I implement it?20:24
wxlok, so you have to make a change in our seed first, and then in our metapackage. the latter is the more complicated and harder issue but actually one that is entirely programmatic.20:26
wxlboth can be sent as pull requests (they're called differential revisions according to phabricator)20:26
wxlso here's the desktop seed file https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/seed/browse/groovy/desktop20:27
wxlit's well organized and should be fairly obvious20:27
KGIIIIt's new to me, but it appears pretty straightforward. 20:28
wxlso you basically git that repo, make the change, push the change and then do the same thing with the meta repo using the script (and instructions) provided20:28
KGIIIThat is not so intuitive.20:29
wxlok nevermind then :)20:29
KGIIILOL Yeah, let's wait on that one.20:29
KGIIII did make a task for it, which is a start.20:29
wxlyep you sure did! maybe one of these days i'll just sit down and screen record the whole process20:30
KGIIII have been meaning to learn git - so give me a bit (weeks is my timeline) and I'll take some online courses to learn git better.20:30
KGIIII am still reading the freedesktop specifications. I'm gonna read all of 'em.20:31
wxlokie dokie. let me know when you're ready to take the next step20:31
wxlyou may want to try playing around with github and understanding the process there20:31
wxlit's very similar20:31
KGIIIWill do. I've also been paying attention to the bug triage process, just to see how it goes.20:31
wxlso is the merge request process on launchpad20:31
KGIIIYeah, I've got a github account and a hello world there. I'll spend some time learning more about that.20:33
KGIIIThere is a lot to learn. For y'all who've been doing it for years, it's probably pretty easy. For me, it's a whole lot of stuff that I know nothing about. That's good - actually. I like learning new things.20:33
wxli could make a play repo on my account and you could send pull requests to it20:33
KGIIIWe shall see - don't do anything yet. I've still got plenty to read and monitor.20:34
wxli just meant something stupid like some lorem ipsum files XD20:34
lubot[telegram] <kc2bez> Maybe we should have a "hello world" repo?20:34
lubot[telegram] <kc2bez> Then folks can experience arc.20:35
KGIIII'll get there. I've even cloned some projects along the way, so I've got stuff in there to play with.20:35
wxlthat might be a good idea20:35
KGIIIIt may sound overwhelming or a lot like work, but having some sort of documentation about this process might also be a good idea.20:36
wxlmaybe we should make a super simple tutorial based on just changing some text20:36
wxlOOOOH we could do it for the manual20:36
wxlor rather to support contributions to the manual20:36
lubot[telegram] <kc2bez> Even if it just markdown in phab, that way no one is worried about breaking stuff.20:37
wxlyep20:37
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KGIIIFrom my perspective (someone new to this) learning things in small steps is good. Even if it's just little things, I learn by doing. I'm going to go order a special external drive just for Lubuntu stuff.20:46
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KGIIIAre those notifications from someone trying to build those packages?22:13
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kc2bez[m]The Lubuntu CI messages are from the automated build system or Jenkins. ci.lubuntu.me shows the output status. let me dig up the wiki page.22:51
KGIIIThat's pretty much what I'd intuited. No need for a wiki page at this time, but I'll read it anyhow.22:51
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kc2bez[m]Sure, it goes further in depth. Basically the idea is to replicate the launchpad system on a smaller scale for testing purposes and QA. https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/packaging/ci/22:53
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lubot[telegram] <teward001> that is, when it's operational and the Internet isn't fubar.22:57
lubot[telegram] <teward001> ... or when i'm not performing system maintenance xD22:57
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