 @Soscat House [I folks, can webapps created from webber store login credentials?  I setup a loc …], yes you can but you may have to set a few parameters, such as additonal urls
 webapps are typically restricted to a single domain
 @Garrett M [Hi I have a One plus 6T that I am running Lineage OS on and would like to try Ub …], where have you checked?
[00:37] <ubptgbot> <Garrett M> @Fuseteam [where have you checked?], https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/device/enchilada-fajita/
 looks like it's not ready to be installed yet
[00:40] <ubptgbot> <Garrett M> @Fuseteam [looks like it's not ready to be installed yet], I am fine with more complex methods of install, I did successfully install lineage OS this morning and they don't even have such an install tool, so I am looking for image files that I can load in using fastboot and adb type processes
 uh let's just say ubuntu touch is a tad more complicated than lineage
[01:20] <ubptgbot> <Garrett M> Thats fine
 alright the way it works can be seen in this repo, but note that some file names are device specific:
 uh i can't find right now i'll post it when i found it
 aha! https://github.com/wdbm/TFLOSSH/blob/master/turbo.md#download-ubports-ubuntu-touch-1604
[01:36] <ubptgbot> <Garrett M> Thanks I am reviewing it now, I will of course get very familiar with the available data and make a deployment plan.
 a deployment plan? oh my
 @Flohack we're having trouble flashing android 7.1.2 on the nexus 6p in the welcome room
 (Photo, 786x1037) https://irc.ubports.com/FNPlLvN1.png
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 @Fuseteam [@Flohack we're having trouble flashing android 7.1.2 on the nexus 6p in the welc …], That was at 3.40 my time ;)
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 On a Xiaomi Redmi Note 7 I have no mobile data. Everything else works. Is this a known issue or something I can fix?
 @Fuseteam [@Flohack we're having trouble flashing android 7.1.2 on the nexus 6p in the welc …], perhaps the partition table was modified in an upgrade to make more space for /system
 @Garrett M [Hi I have a One plus 6T that I am running Lineage OS on and would like to try Ub …], see https://gitlab.com/ubports/community-ports/android9/oneplus-6/oneplus-enchilada-fajita/-/jobs/982357236/artifacts/browse
 @Drymarchon [On a Xiaomi Redmi Note 7 I have no mobile data. Everything else works. Is this a …], did you check if APN settings are set correctly? otherwise it may be known issue
 @NotKit [did you check if APN settings are set correctly? otherwise it may be known issue], No, I'm not sure what they should be set to but I will find out in the morning and try that. Thank you.
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[10:04] <ubptgbot> <By brian All rights reserved> @Drymarchon [On a Xiaomi Redmi Note 7 I have no mobile data. Everything else works. Is this a …], Had the same issue did you use orange fox 🦊
 @By brian All rights reserved [Had the same issue did you use orange fox 🦊], how can you use orange fox if ubuntu touch has its own recovery?
 @By brian All rights reserved [Had the same issue did you use orange fox 🦊], [Edit] how can you use orange fox when ubuntu touch has its own recovery?
[10:12] <ubptgbot> <By brian All rights reserved> @Drymarchon [On a Xiaomi Redmi Note 7 I have no mobile data. Everything else works. Is this a …], Fast boot twrp
[10:12] <ubptgbot> <By brian All rights reserved> The flash orange fox r11
[10:13] <ubptgbot> <By brian All rights reserved> Get halium boot lineage 16 and ubports image
[10:14] <ubptgbot> <By brian All rights reserved> And flash through orange fox when I did it through installer mobile data didn’t work amd browser was different older version I think 🤔
[10:15] <ubptgbot> <By brian All rights reserved> Follow this
[10:15] <ubptgbot> <By brian All rights reserved> https://youtu.be/eGjplOtzSFI
[10:16] <ubptgbot> <By brian All rights reserved> Mobile data now works only problem I’m having is Bluetooth in car connects but does not work
 the GSI is old and unsupported though
 if someone can figure out what is broken in Installer port that would be great
 @By brian All rights reserved [Mobile data now works only problem I’m having is Bluetooth in car connects but d …], Car kits are a problem across all devices. Its not a matter of the device, but our support of "standard" car kits that might do things sometimes a bit differently. It really depends on the car, unfortunately
[10:19] <ubptgbot> <By brian All rights reserved> It maybe so but mobile … Data wouldn’t work for me but does now I think these guys are snowed under had same issue with pixel 3a they are aware of it but like I said their only so much they can fix everyone should donate some money get more programmers on it cuz this has massive potential get away from apple amd googl
[10:19] <ubptgbot> e
[10:19] <ubptgbot> <By brian All rights reserved> @Flohack [Car kits are a problem across all devices. Its not a matter of the device, but o …], Yeah I thought that not a problem everything … Else is good 😌
 hi, im trying to access /usr/share/unity8/ to paste a file in it (in order to install the vollanotchfix) … `phablet@ubuntu-phablet:/$ sudo cp /home/phablet/Downloads/Shell.qml /usr/share/unity8/ … [sudo] password for phablet:  … cp: cannot create regular file '/usr/share/unity8/Shell.qml': Read-only file system … `is there any other way t
[11:37] <ubptgbot> o do it?
 @Schmuel [hi, im trying to access /usr/share/unity8/ to paste a file in it (in order to in …], sudo mount -o remount,rw /
 Someone wrote a script that does it all automatically: https://github.com/JamiKettunen/unity8-notch-hax
 Thanks man works perfectly!!!
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/bfF6hQda.webp
 @Flohack [That was at 3.40 my time ;)], i wasn't in a rush xD
 @joeth [perhaps the partition table was modified in an upgrade to make more space for /s …], not sure what it was, but tis now resolved
 @Fuseteam [not sure what it was, but tis now resolved], Cool!
 they ultimately sideloaded the ota zip via twrp
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 sorry, good morning everyone.  I would like to ask just one question: no possibility to install Ubuntu-Touch in a samsung Note2?
 @FRASZ [sorry, good morning everyone.  I would like to ask just one question: no possibi …], hi, there is a possibility: porting. with this method can take a few months work to get the device supported
 👌
 it does require the device, so you'd be the best candidate to do the work ;)
 😳
 yes, we need you :)
 [Edit] yes, you, we need you :)
 I ready .. try it
 No success
 did you follow the porting guide?
 Yap
 as said it'll take a couple of months worth of work, so it won't be easy. did you see the links to the groups where they can help you debug your issues?
 Ready try to install UBport in Note 2,but the phone made autorestart when start install. Img
 Ok I will try...tomorrow... now here in Shenzhen is night time...👍
 yes that's one hurdle you face when porting, pretty sure the way around it should be documented something
 alright good night 👍
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/ujPsVPQm.mp4
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 Hello all. Out of curiosity, has anyone else encountered a problem where Bluetooth does not want to turn off on a Nexus 5 device?
 I toggle it off in the menu, and it comes back on after a while.
 what channel are you on? and what version are you running?
 stable/rc/dev?
[15:48] <ubptgbot> Sanath was added by: Sanath
 Sorry, just woke up. I'll try reflashing on the Xiaomi note 7 tonight and not using the ubports installer. … I ordered a oneplus 6T last night to play with as well. I'm new here but this awesome. I will keep donating. Love the project.
 @Yo5eff you can ask your questions in here
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 @Shakendo [@Yo5eff you can ask your questions in here], Thanks 🙂
 Well, i installed UT on a Samsung Note 4 910F. … At certain point phone freezed while i was doing the swipe gestures that initially shows "How to" (opened camera and it caused to freeze) and i had to unplug phone, remove battery to boot it. … I am now unsure if installation were complete , so i would like to repeat it. … Phone doesnt seem
[18:14] <ubptgbot> to connect with computer (even with developer mode on), but if i boot in recovery mode, ubports installer recognizes the phone correctly. … My question is: Is it safe to try to reinstall from there? Or is there a better way to do it?
 Are tactile buttons suppose to do anything on Note 4? Mine do nothing - not even light on
 Phone screen won't turn off unless i press power button
 @Yo5eff [Are tactile buttons suppose to do anything on Note 4? Mine do nothing - not even …], Android buttons are not used by UT
 SD card doesnt seem to be recognized unless i insert it after phone is on.
 I'm sharing my experience with it, but i would like to be sure if my issues are not from a bad installation 😉
 I also have the problem with Wifi connection not being "remembered" and the camera that shuts down equipment , and is needed to remove battery to reboot it (But that's already documented)
 Please do not take any of my comments as criticism. I'm just sharing my experience and bugs discovered in order to contribute to a better development in the future. I fully understand that this is Open Source , and i'm extremely grateful that you are putting your time and effort into this great project 😊
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[18:49] <ubptgbot> <Jose Canseco> Hello, I was about to order a nexus 5x from ebay to test out ubuntu touch but I am not sure if it the X variant is just as compatible as the Nexus 5
 No, the 5X is not compatible.
[18:50] <ubptgbot> <Jose Canseco> ok thank you so much. just saved me hundred or so bucks
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[18:55] <ubptgbot> <Jose Canseco> If my budget is between 150 to 300, do you guys recommend anything better than the nexus 4?
[18:55] <ubptgbot> <Jose Canseco> Im sorry, nexus 5*
 @Jose Canseco [If my budget is between 150 to 300, do you guys recommend anything better than t …], Redmi Note 7
 if those are USD there are a lot of things "better"
[18:56] <ubptgbot> <Jose Canseco> USD
[18:56] <ubptgbot> <Jose Canseco> so I want to get something that is actually working tho. that really is my only requirement
 assuming you're in the US anyway. and whether you want a device to test and play with UT, or something to use as a daily driver
[18:57] <ubptgbot> <Jose Canseco> probably play around at first and then switch to daily driver
 sony xperia x (suzu)
[18:57] <ubptgbot> <Jose Canseco> Thats why im having a hard time to pick a phone. at first I ordered a oneplusone off ebay but it turned out it was a scammer
[18:57] <ubptgbot> <Jose Canseco> since I read its the easiest one to get working
 @dohbee [sony xperia x (suzu)], ❤️
[18:58] <ubptgbot> <Jose Canseco> @dohbee [sony xperia x (suzu)], sweet I'll check that out. and it's fullly functinal as far as calls and texts go?
 or go to pine64.org and buy a pinephone (not daily use ready, but cheap and new and good to play and test with, and has absolutely no android stuff at all)
 @Jose Canseco [sweet I'll check that out. and it's fullly functinal as far as calls and texts g …], Yes, and it just gained camcorder support. So pretty much everything works, except BT calls.
 bluetooth calling is a crapshoot on all devices really, for now
[18:59] <ubptgbot> <Jose Canseco> got it. that's not really a big deal to me as of now
[19:00] <ubptgbot> <Jose Canseco> well , glad I found this channel. thank you so much for being so helpful thus far
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 Anyone else here with a Note 4? (except Tygerpro)
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 @Jose Canseco [If my budget is between 150 to 300, do you guys recommend anything better than t …], Nexus 6P, Pixel, Pixel 2 all have ports in progress and are in that price range
[19:40] <ubptgbot> <Jose Canseco> @rocket2nfinity [Nexus 6P, Pixel, Pixel 2 all have ports in progress and are in that price range], thank you appreciated
 If you're in the US, there is an issue with VoLTE brewing, so the newer the device the better
 So, the Pinephone would be a good choice as well to have options
[19:44] <ubptgbot> <Jose Canseco> I am looking at the pinephone and it seems like it would probably be the best way to go
[19:45] <ubptgbot> <Jose Canseco> i also just found out my wife has a sony xperia x, so I guess I'll con her into giving me that to mess around with it while the pinephone comes
 I have one. I'm having a lot of fun with it.
[19:46] <ubptgbot> <Jose Canseco> nice. and everything basic works ok? like calls texts data?
 Speaking of the VoLTE problem, apparently AT&T has starting applying their whitelist early (as of yesterday). Devices are getting kicked off their network rapidly, including the Pinephone. We as a group need to harass them with phone calls and messages to get it on their list, since it does work
 On Mobian and Manjaro all works
 they are using modemmanager instead, and for some reason volte apparently is working with that
 On UT it also works, but there again - the VoLTE problem
 I can confirm it does. With T-Mobile and Verizon
 My AT&T Sim stopped working today.
[19:50] <ubptgbot> <Jose Canseco> wow that's insane
 So... At&T ain't playing
 @Yo5eff [Anyone else here with a Note 4? (except Tygerpro)], Hi, I have a Note 4 (F) with UT . It's my old device so happy that there is a port now! Unfortunatly few issues to use it as a daily driver. I also have random shutdown ( with a new bttery)  and the phone feel quiet hot.
 I've been having shutdowns with anything that is camera related. … Mine doesnt run hot at all.
 But it's nice cause is update with OTA so i can compare with my GSI Redmi 7. I would like to help to sort issues but i don't have skill i think.
 I also don't have coding skills to help...
 I understood that Tigerpro start this port with no specific knowledge at all and it took few years... It's nice lesson for everyone 😀.
 AT&Ts whitelist of devices they will allow on their network now data:image/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAABAAAAAQCAYAAAAf8/9hAAACMklEQVR4AWLABVY9/cFcf+MLBxSzMBADAIVTA6xdURCsbcWpbUe1bRtRbdu2zeDbtm3berbfdLftt05yfXd2dmYOgFYHExQvxvqJ1S0cKlDzGOEj0uyPk79l4AaLfxdpe1qXaINaO3JBw0c/dyECRXrfOxmqvvU6LwmTFkZLDchQGvEwSwXqhnWRMuyIkeNMihLUGdk
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 uh, what's with the base64 PNG
 [Edit] AT&Ts whitelist of devices they will allow on their network now
 I'll send in a bit. As soon as I figure out what I did
 [Edit] AT&Ts whitelist of devices they will allow on their network
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/Drg1wICR.pdf
[20:55] <ubptgbot> <Jose Canseco> wouldn't the right move here be leave ATT?
 Sure. But in the US, we have a problem. Ofono has not been configured to work with VoLTE. The big three have, or are switching to VoLTE only. So, your options for service are becoming very limited - to the regional baby bells, if you live in an area that has a regional carrier.
 Hence why the Pinephone would be a good option. You can still get service, sadly, by using another OS until UT is patched, or via Manjaro Lomiri - which is coming along nicely lately. But still a work in progress
[21:06] <ubptgbot> <Jose Canseco> thats awful
[21:06] <ubptgbot> <Jose Canseco> there's gotta be something that can be done im sure
 That's business
 Many have tried. With a new administration things might change. This is an FCC responsibility.
 would be nice if we had a thing in UT to see if volte is working or not, rather than constantly always making wild guesses
 (for things other than pinephone, as we know it doesn't work there)
 Ofonoctl scripts are the only way I know of -  bearer info. But, it only specifies if PS or CS preferred
 If PS preferred, it will try VoLTE first. But there is something else going on there that is keeping VoLTE from happening, but I do not know what
 Didn't you all force CS preferred because of a certain phone that needed it? (Can't remember which one)
 there's something that breaks CDMA, but it shouldn't break LTE afaik
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 yeah, maybe we should just drop support for pro5, just to get rid of that change
 I'll find out for sure on the 29th when T-mobile turns off 2G/3G
[21:19] <ubptgbot> <gkuy hdr> Fwd from Jdjdjdnbdjdj: ETH 10% discount … contact@TimeHA1
 but that change doesn't affect pinephone or android9 devices
 i think
 Last I checked. Pinephone on UT is not functioning with VoLTE. But beats me as to why
 @dohbee [yeah, maybe we should just drop support for pro5, just to get rid of that change], Them's fighting words
 The needs of the many....
[21:28] <ubptgbot> <Jose Canseco> @rocket2nfinity [The needs of the many....], 👍
 i guess CDMA is just going away soon enough too
 Regional carriers are keeping it for a while in the US. And Dish/Boost
 I have spent a lot of time going over ofono and can't figure out what keeps CDMA from happening either. Need a network specialist to compare Ofono and modem manager I think
 on which device?
 Currently, I'm trying to compare the two with the Pinephone to see if I can find where they differ
 i don't think pine hardware supports cdma
[21:40] <ubptgbot> Andrii_Podanenko was added by: Andrii_Podanenko
 But it does support VoLTE. Modem Manager works, but Ofono does not, even though it should. There's got to be something that should be a noticeable difference that maybe can help figure out why one works and got to fix the other
 yes, but you mentioned CDMA, so i was asking what device you were doing that on :)
 also, where is it defined what `cs-preferred` means?
 [Edit] But it does support VoLTE. Modem Manager works, but Ofono does not, even though it should. There's got to be something that should be a noticeable difference that maybe can help figure out why one works and not the other
 ok so we don't want `ps-preferred` anyway
 since it means GPRS right?
 PS is packet switched - the newer standard. CS is circuit switched the old pours pots network
 Let me dig up the spec sheet
 [Edit] PS is packet switched - the newer standard. CS is circuit switched the old pots network
 Packet switched is VoLTE
 oh
 Ommmg!) I got Bitcoin! … Chеck guys and hurry uр - https://bit.ly/2M4EagM
 wait so volte work with modemmanager?
 @rocket2nfinity [Packet switched is VoLTE], have you tried to run `/usr/share/ofono/scripts/set-sms-bearer ps-preferred` ?
 though i am not sure this will affect voice calls
 [Edit] wait am i reading right, so volte work with modemmanager?
 @Fuseteam [wait am i reading right, so volte work with modemmanager?], yes
 [Edit] wait am i reading right, so volte works with modemmanager?
 huh interesting
 https://commsbrief.com/difference-between-circuit-switched-packet-switched/
 Yes, but no joy setting to PS preferred
 hmm, i guess the script itself is broken, whee; but fixing the tabs vs spaces, it just fails on my nexus5
 but also it doesn't have a valid sim
 Here are the technical details of how a VoLTE (via IMS ie verizon or T-Mobile not sip) call is established. But it's been a long time since my networking training. So applying it to ofono is beyond my skill set
 https://www.sharetechnote.com/html/Handbook_LTE_VoLTE.html#Ex01
 And the official VoLTE implementation guide from the gsm alliance
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/b6zAL3W8.pdf
 @Flohack you asked me for this some time ago.
 And the technical standard
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/0zDYPZGT.pdf
 oh cool
 thx
 The link above the two PDFs will hopefully be most useful because it shows an actual call in process
 I hope to find smth, but most of the call handling is probably done in the modem itself. Lets see
 There is more to that page https://www.sharetechnote.com/html/Handbook_LTE_VoLTE.html#Radio_Layer_Configuration
 And the fire hose https://www.sharetechnote.com/html/Handbook_LTE.html
[23:32] <ubptgbot> Marty Williams was added by: Marty Williams