| maco | daftykins: | 00:29 |
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| maco | i am slowly becoming more disabled, and I may need to use dictation software to interact with my computer at some point. Dragon isn't available for Linux. | 00:30 |
| maco | so when it was time for new hardware, i went for hardware that came with a mainstream os preinstalled | 00:32 |
| maxFlexGuest63 | The AERobot will likely run at least one of the Ubuntu flavors. Ubuntu Budgie does not have a channel, but other flavors do. AERobot will be compatible with Ubuntu Linux, ideally with 16GB or even 32GB of system memory. I think one of the Ubuntu flavors will meet my needs best. | 00:32 |
| maxFlexGuest63 | Are you able to add a Xubuntu discuss channel? I think I need one because I have a non-support Xubuntu question. | 00:59 |
| Ben64 | xubuntu is ubuntu though | 01:15 |
| lotuspsychje | good morning | 02:42 |
| lordievader | Good morning | 07:13 |
| ducasse | good morning | 07:18 |
| marcoagpinto | morning, guys! | 07:18 |
| marcoagpinto | :) | 07:18 |
| ducasse | morn marcoagpinto | 07:22 |
| marcoagpinto | it is my birthday!!!! | 07:22 |
| marcoagpinto | >:) | 07:22 |
| marcoagpinto | 47 years old | 07:22 |
| marcoagpinto | I am getting old | 07:22 |
| ducasse | congratulations! i turned 47 on saturday! | 07:22 |
| marcoagpinto | we are almost 50 | 07:23 |
| marcoagpinto | :p | 07:23 |
| ducasse | i know :-/ | 07:23 |
| marcoagpinto | half a century | 07:23 |
| ducasse | who knew we would live this long | 07:28 |
| ducasse | i've been using linux for nearly 30 years | 07:29 |
| guiverc | :) ducasse (30 years using..) I'll never catch up to your %.of.life.using.linux :( | 09:55 |
| daftykins | guiverc: we could tie him up, then you'll catch up! | 10:01 |
| guiverc | :) being tied up that many years & forcing him to use a non-GNU/Linux OS would be cruel; esp. given I'm older so % & I thought in terms of % of life.. | 10:03 |
| ducasse | guiverc: luckily, it's not a competition :) | 10:17 |
| ducasse | i think my first distro had a v0.63 kernel | 10:18 |
| guiverc | :) | 10:19 |
| ducasse | quite a difference to today | 10:20 |
| guiverc | i think it was debian 2.0 I first used; so kernel 2.0 I think | 10:21 |
| ducasse | still a long time ago | 10:22 |
| guiverc | maybe ducasse, but I don't think I ever tried Ubuntu before 2010 (I only used debian GNU/Linux, or distros with GNU in the name).. I really only see me using/appreciating it about 2010, when it became my primary OS | 11:20 |
| Maik | marcoagpinto: congratulations | 11:24 |
| Maik | you're the same age as me now | 11:24 |
| marcoagpinto | thanks | 11:26 |
| daftykins | maco: ah sorry to hear that, didn't mean it by way of judging at all though, gotta use whatever works! | 15:01 |
| leftyfb | locsmif_work: it's pretty similar to calling Microsoft and asking them which video editing software to use. Not to mention the multitude of possible answers from people with all different levels of experience | 15:19 |
| locsmif_work | leftyfb: I'm more of the opinion that support channels should be welcoming rather than chase users away or police every question as part of $unwanted_category_of_question_although_asked_by_ubuntu_user_about_ubuntu_system | 15:22 |
| locsmif_work | But ok, I guess he's not coming anyway | 15:22 |
| leftyfb | g3poandlsl: it also makes no sense that they have a mandate around running an antivirus on a linux distro, yet the mandate is "eh, just choose whatever one you find, as long as you tell us it's always running, but we really have no way of knowing" | 15:27 |
| daftykins | sounds like a policy-based box-ticking exercise | 15:28 |
| leftyfb | right, not based on security at all | 15:28 |
| g3poandlsl | leftyfb, I take it you've never worked for the government ;) | 15:28 |
| Ussat | Running AV on a Linux distro is not always a bad thing, depends on the use of the linux distro, mailserver ? samba servibg out windows shares ? | 15:29 |
| leftyfb | g3poandlsl: run a bash script that runs "find" every few minutes with a --scanning parameter. That should appease them | 15:29 |
| leftyfb | it will also be about as effective as most other linux AV's | 15:30 |
| Ussat | leftyfb, um....again, it depends on the use case. | 15:30 |
| Ussat | clamav on a samba server or mail server scannning specific areas is totally valid | 15:31 |
| leftyfb | Ussat: right, for catching Windows viruses that only work on Windows | 15:31 |
| g3poandlsl | security is, of course, important to us, but we realize that an antivirus product is going to do very little for us security-wise | 15:32 |
| Ussat | I work for a govt entity, and we have no mandate to run AV on all linus servers | 15:32 |
| g3poandlsl | we're just trying to 'comply' with the policy, and ideally make management of the security clients as easy for our IT team as possible | 15:33 |
| leftyfb | g3poandlsl: look into things like tripwire and locking down the root filesystem and focus on attack vectors that might actually affect linux workstations like the browser | 15:33 |
| Ussat | g3poandlsl, that is, the wrong approach IMHO, the policy needs to be changed to be rational | 15:33 |
| Ussat | and yes, I have had that fight here | 15:34 |
| g3poandlsl | Ussat, I agree. However, these policies are generally made by ill-informed heads of departments that are influenced by bureaucracy | 15:35 |
| daftykins | i suspect g3poandlsl doesn't want to be challenged on the efficacy of things but just wants suggestions to jump through the hoops that have been defined | 15:36 |
| g3poandlsl | I understand what the 'correct' answer is, but unfortunately, that is not possible in our organization | 15:37 |
| g3poandlsl | daftykins, this accurately illustrates my intent. I should have been more clear about this | 15:39 |
| Ussat | g3poandlsl, I agree, we had the same here | 15:39 |
| daftykins | i think you might need a better source than IRC if you're doing government work and have to jump through such hoops? | 15:39 |
| g3poandlsl | daftykins, probably. Just figured I'd give it a shot | 15:42 |
| g3poandlsl | thanks for the help all | 15:42 |
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