[00:29] daftykins: [00:30] i am slowly becoming more disabled, and I may need to use dictation software to interact with my computer at some point. Dragon isn't available for Linux. [00:32] so when it was time for new hardware, i went for hardware that came with a mainstream os preinstalled [00:32] The AERobot will likely run at least one of the Ubuntu flavors. Ubuntu Budgie does not have a channel, but other flavors do. AERobot will be compatible with Ubuntu Linux, ideally with 16GB or even 32GB of system memory. I think one of the Ubuntu flavors will meet my needs best. [00:59] Are you able to add a Xubuntu discuss channel? I think I need one because I have a non-support Xubuntu question. [01:15] xubuntu is ubuntu though [02:42] good morning [07:13] Good morning [07:18] good morning [07:18] morning, guys! [07:18] :) [07:22] morn marcoagpinto [07:22] it is my birthday!!!! [07:22] >:) [07:22] 47 years old [07:22] I am getting old [07:22] congratulations! i turned 47 on saturday! [07:23] we are almost 50 [07:23] :p [07:23] i know :-/ [07:23] half a century [07:28] who knew we would live this long [07:29] i've been using linux for nearly 30 years [09:55] :) ducasse (30 years using..) I'll never catch up to your %.of.life.using.linux :( [10:01] guiverc: we could tie him up, then you'll catch up! [10:03] :) being tied up that many years & forcing him to use a non-GNU/Linux OS would be cruel; esp. given I'm older so % & I thought in terms of % of life.. [10:17] guiverc: luckily, it's not a competition :) [10:18] i think my first distro had a v0.63 kernel [10:19] :) [10:20] quite a difference to today [10:21] i think it was debian 2.0 I first used; so kernel 2.0 I think [10:22] still a long time ago [11:20] maybe ducasse, but I don't think I ever tried Ubuntu before 2010 (I only used debian GNU/Linux, or distros with GNU in the name).. I really only see me using/appreciating it about 2010, when it became my primary OS [11:24] marcoagpinto: congratulations [11:24] you're the same age as me now [11:26] thanks [15:01] maco: ah sorry to hear that, didn't mean it by way of judging at all though, gotta use whatever works! [15:19] locsmif_work: it's pretty similar to calling Microsoft and asking them which video editing software to use. Not to mention the multitude of possible answers from people with all different levels of experience [15:22] leftyfb: I'm more of the opinion that support channels should be welcoming rather than chase users away or police every question as part of $unwanted_category_of_question_although_asked_by_ubuntu_user_about_ubuntu_system [15:22] But ok, I guess he's not coming anyway [15:27] g3poandlsl: it also makes no sense that they have a mandate around running an antivirus on a linux distro, yet the mandate is "eh, just choose whatever one you find, as long as you tell us it's always running, but we really have no way of knowing" [15:28] sounds like a policy-based box-ticking exercise [15:28] right, not based on security at all [15:28] leftyfb, I take it you've never worked for the government ;) [15:29] Running AV on a Linux distro is not always a bad thing, depends on the use of the linux distro, mailserver ? samba servibg out windows shares ? [15:29] g3poandlsl: run a bash script that runs "find" every few minutes with a --scanning parameter. That should appease them [15:30] it will also be about as effective as most other linux AV's [15:30] leftyfb, um....again, it depends on the use case. [15:31] clamav on a samba server or mail server scannning specific areas is totally valid [15:31] Ussat: right, for catching Windows viruses that only work on Windows [15:32] security is, of course, important to us, but we realize that an antivirus product is going to do very little for us security-wise [15:32] I work for a govt entity, and we have no mandate to run AV on all linus servers [15:33] we're just trying to 'comply' with the policy, and ideally make management of the security clients as easy for our IT team as possible [15:33] g3poandlsl: look into things like tripwire and locking down the root filesystem and focus on attack vectors that might actually affect linux workstations like the browser [15:33] g3poandlsl, that is, the wrong approach IMHO, the policy needs to be changed to be rational [15:34] and yes, I have had that fight here [15:35] Ussat, I agree. However, these policies are generally made by ill-informed heads of departments that are influenced by bureaucracy [15:36] i suspect g3poandlsl doesn't want to be challenged on the efficacy of things but just wants suggestions to jump through the hoops that have been defined [15:37] I understand what the 'correct' answer is, but unfortunately, that is not possible in our organization [15:39] daftykins, this accurately illustrates my intent. I should have been more clear about this [15:39] g3poandlsl, I agree, we had the same here [15:39] i think you might need a better source than IRC if you're doing government work and have to jump through such hoops? [15:42] daftykins, probably. Just figured I'd give it a shot [15:42] thanks for the help all