[00:29] <maco> daftykins:
[00:30] <maco> i am slowly becoming more disabled, and I may need to use dictation software to interact with my computer at some point. Dragon isn't available for Linux.
[00:32] <maco> so when it was time for new hardware, i went for hardware that came with a mainstream os preinstalled
[00:32] <maxFlexGuest63> The AERobot will likely run at least one of the Ubuntu flavors. Ubuntu Budgie does not have a channel, but other flavors do. AERobot will be compatible with Ubuntu Linux, ideally with 16GB or even 32GB of system memory. I think one of the Ubuntu flavors will meet my needs best.
[00:59] <maxFlexGuest63> Are you able to add a Xubuntu discuss channel? I think I need one because I have a non-support Xubuntu question.
[01:15] <Ben64> xubuntu is ubuntu though
[02:42] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[07:13] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:18] <ducasse> good morning
[07:18] <marcoagpinto> morning, guys!
[07:18] <marcoagpinto> :)
[07:22] <ducasse> morn marcoagpinto
[07:22] <marcoagpinto> it is my birthday!!!!
[07:22] <marcoagpinto> >:)
[07:22] <marcoagpinto> 47 years old
[07:22] <marcoagpinto> I am getting old
[07:22] <ducasse> congratulations! i turned 47 on saturday!
[07:23] <marcoagpinto> we are almost 50
[07:23] <marcoagpinto> :p
[07:23] <ducasse> i know :-/
[07:23] <marcoagpinto> half a century
[07:28] <ducasse> who knew we would live this long
[07:29] <ducasse> i've been using linux for nearly 30 years
[09:55] <guiverc> :) ducasse (30 years using..)  I'll never catch up to your %.of.life.using.linux :(
[10:01] <daftykins> guiverc: we could tie him up, then you'll catch up!
[10:03] <guiverc> :)   being tied up that many years & forcing him to use a non-GNU/Linux OS would be cruel; esp. given I'm older so % & I thought in terms of % of life..
[10:17] <ducasse> guiverc: luckily, it's not a competition :)
[10:18] <ducasse> i think my first distro had a v0.63 kernel
[10:19] <guiverc> :)
[10:20] <ducasse> quite a difference to today
[10:21] <guiverc> i think it was debian 2.0 I first used; so kernel 2.0 I think
[10:22] <ducasse> still a long time ago
[11:20] <guiverc> maybe ducasse, but I don't think I ever tried Ubuntu before 2010 (I only used debian GNU/Linux, or distros with GNU in the name).. I really only see me using/appreciating it about 2010, when it became my primary OS
[11:24] <Maik> marcoagpinto: congratulations
[11:24] <Maik> you're the same age as me now
[11:26] <marcoagpinto> thanks
[15:01] <daftykins> maco: ah sorry to hear that, didn't mean it by way of judging at all though, gotta use whatever works!
[15:19] <leftyfb> locsmif_work: it's pretty similar to calling Microsoft and asking them which video editing software to use. Not to mention the multitude of possible answers from people with all different levels of experience
[15:22] <locsmif_work> leftyfb: I'm more of the opinion that support channels should be welcoming rather than chase users away or police every question as part of $unwanted_category_of_question_although_asked_by_ubuntu_user_about_ubuntu_system
[15:22] <locsmif_work> But ok, I guess he's not coming anyway
[15:27] <leftyfb> g3poandlsl: it also makes no sense that they have a mandate around running an antivirus on a linux distro, yet the mandate is "eh, just choose whatever one you find, as long as you tell us it's always running, but we really have no way of knowing"
[15:28] <daftykins> sounds like a policy-based box-ticking exercise
[15:28] <leftyfb> right, not based on security at all
[15:28] <g3poandlsl> leftyfb, I take it you've never worked for the government ;)
[15:29] <Ussat> Running AV on a Linux distro is not always a bad thing, depends on the use of the linux distro, mailserver ? samba servibg out windows shares ?
[15:29] <leftyfb> g3poandlsl: run a bash script that runs "find" every few minutes with a --scanning parameter. That should appease them
[15:30] <leftyfb> it will also be about as effective as most other linux AV's
[15:30] <Ussat> leftyfb, um....again, it depends on the use case.
[15:31] <Ussat> clamav on a samba server or mail server scannning specific areas is totally valid
[15:31] <leftyfb> Ussat: right, for catching Windows viruses that only work on Windows
[15:32] <g3poandlsl> security is, of course, important to us, but we realize that an antivirus product is going to do very little for us security-wise
[15:32] <Ussat> I work for a govt entity, and we have no mandate to run AV on all linus servers
[15:33] <g3poandlsl> we're just trying to 'comply' with the policy, and ideally make management of the security clients as easy for our IT team as possible
[15:33] <leftyfb> g3poandlsl: look into things like tripwire and locking down the root filesystem and focus on attack vectors that might actually affect linux workstations like the browser
[15:33] <Ussat> g3poandlsl, that is, the wrong approach IMHO, the policy needs to be changed to be rational
[15:34] <Ussat> and yes, I have had that fight here
[15:35] <g3poandlsl> Ussat, I agree. However, these policies are generally made by ill-informed heads of departments that are influenced by bureaucracy
[15:36] <daftykins> i suspect g3poandlsl doesn't want to be challenged on the efficacy of things but just wants suggestions to jump through the hoops that have been defined
[15:37] <g3poandlsl> I understand what the 'correct' answer is, but unfortunately, that is not possible in our organization
[15:39] <g3poandlsl> daftykins, this accurately illustrates my intent.  I should have been more clear about this
[15:39] <Ussat> g3poandlsl, I agree, we had the same here
[15:39] <daftykins> i think you might need a better source than IRC if you're doing government work and have to jump through such hoops?
[15:42] <g3poandlsl> daftykins, probably. Just figured I'd give it a shot
[15:42] <g3poandlsl> thanks for the help all