[15:05] <RikMills> https://twitter.com/kubuntu/status/1354443269871185923
[16:42] <Eickmeyer[m]> RikMills: Thanks for the update. Man, that sucks. I liked working with him. I knew about the cancer, but didn't know how that battle was going.
[16:52] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks: Any idea if jack2 1.9.17 fixes that bug that we had with Carla wrt the metadata? Seems to have a number of fixes in that direction.
[16:53] <Eickmeyer[m]> And... /me takes a moment to facepalm about rgh blaming studio-controls
[16:54] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: I am wondering if after that lib is rebuilt will python3-jack have to be as well?
[16:54] <OvenWerks> (not sure if that is the actual package name
[16:55] <Eickmeyer[m]> I don't think so? But, I don't think that SRU was acted upon.
[16:56] <OvenWerks> Hmm can we at least get something in backports?
[16:56] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks: Which library was it?
[16:56]  * Eickmeyer[m] is having trouble finding the bug
[16:56] <Eickmeyer[m]> cffi, right?
[16:57] <OvenWerks> https://github.com/ovenwerks/studio-controls/issues/43
 you mean the cffi no change rebuild request?
[16:59] <Eickmeyer[m]> Nvm, found the bug.
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-cffi/+bug/1912535 not this one right?
[16:59] <Eickmeyer[m]> teward: Yes, that's the one. Unfortunately, stefanor doesn't seem to agree.
[17:00] <Eickmeyer[m]> So, if that doesn't need to be rebuilt, then what does?
 Eickmeyer: have we ruled out the case of someone rolling a newer CFFI themselves (or an older one because they haven't done a `sudo apt dist-upgrade` lately)?
[17:00] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks: ? ^
[17:01] <OvenWerks> there seems to have been more than one person who has the trouble
 one thing i do note is, they're running -installer on top of a regular Ubuntu
 is this possibly causing conflicts?
 it SHOULDN'T i wouldn't think, but...
[17:03] <Eickmeyer[m]> teward: No, because it doesn't deal with that library except as a dependency. It's simply a metapackage installer, that's all.
[17:04] <Eickmeyer[m]> Studio IS Ubuntu.
[17:06] <Eickmeyer[m]> I was looking at KXStudio in case it carried that library, and it doesn't, so we can rule that out.
[17:10]  * OvenWerks has rebooted to 20.10 and is now updating 200 plus packages
[17:24] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks, @teward001: Upon investigating further, it seems as though someone uploaded a newer version of cffi AFTER libffi and python3-cffi were already built. This is what is causing the regression.
[17:27] <Eickmeyer[m]> Honestly, I'm not sure how britney didn't catch this.
[17:58] <Eickmeyer[m]> sirffsalot frustrates me to no end. They want their hand held through everything.
[18:04] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks: The reason I was asking about Jackd2 1.9.17 is that I'm wondering if it would be safe to backport it. We previously had 16 patched.
[18:04] <Eickmeyer[m]> er... 14.
[18:09] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: one thing at a time  :)
[18:09]  * OvenWerks reboots 20.10
[18:09] <Eickmeyer[m]> Ok. :)
[18:12] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: BTW, I have not yet been able to get speelling checking working in scribus
[18:13] <Eickmeyer[m]> Yikes. Bug report?
[18:31] <OvenWerks> because someone else has gotten it to work... I am guessing I have not done something correctly.
[19:06] <OvenWerks> autojack is running incredibly slow on 20.10
[19:18] <OvenWerks> Ohh. ERROR: a2j_alsa_connect_from: can't subscribe to 20:0 - Device or resource busy
[19:18] <OvenWerks> port skipped: AudioFire12 [20] (capture): AudioFire12 MIDI 1
[19:21] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: it appears we are missing ffado-tools... or better yet multimedia-firewire
[19:50] <Eickmeyer[m]> Uhoh...
[19:51] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: ok the alsa fireworks module in 20.10 does not work.
[19:52] <OvenWerks> The ffado fireworks module does work
[19:52]  * OvenWerks audiofire12 device cqan run at 16/3  :)
[19:52] <Eickmeyer[m]> How did we miss this?
[19:54] <OvenWerks> Maybe it was installed as part of something else? probably I installed it on my system and because we call one of the tools from controls externally, it fails without making controls not work
[19:54] <OvenWerks> and most people won't see it anyway if they don't have a FW box
[19:54] <Eickmeyer[m]> I'm showing the packages exist. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libffado
[19:55] <Eickmeyer[m]> Are they just not in by default? (I'm on 20.04 for work purposes right now)
[19:56] <OvenWerks> I am guessing they are not installed as a part of controls.
[19:56] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks: That doesn't seem right. They're in the audio-core meta and the seed.
[19:57] <OvenWerks> BTW, I am not having the other problem (cffi)
[19:58] <Eickmeyer[m]> Interesting. 
[19:58] <OvenWerks> I should probaly start off with a fresh install of 20.10, this is an updated beta (or maybe before)
[21:10] <wonko> make sure 21.04 is rock solid guys. That's what I'll be installing after I move. :-P
[23:52] <Eickmeyer[m]> wonko: There's only so much of that we have control over from here. :)
[23:53] <wonko> Then you aren't trying hard enough! :-P