[00:52] <callmepk> good morning
[05:35] <seb128> goood morning desktopers
[05:48] <duflu> Morning seb128 
[05:49] <seb128> hey duflu, how are you?
[05:50] <duflu> seb128, light headache but not so bad by my new standards. Still have been able to exercise and do some pilates. How are you?
[06:06] <seb128> I'm alright, wondering why I'm up so early though
[06:07] <seb128> speaking of which need to drop for a bit now
[06:07] <seb128> bbl
[06:12] <jibel> good morning
[06:16] <duflu> Morning jibel
[06:19] <jibel> Hi duflu 
[06:25] <callmepk> Hi duflu jibel 
[06:27] <duflu> Hi callmepk 
[06:28] <jibel> Hi callmepk 
[07:39] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[07:45] <duflu> Morning oSoMoN 
[07:51] <oSoMoN> hey duflu 
[08:02] <jibel> Salut oSoMoN 
[08:08] <oSoMoN> salut jibel 
[08:33] <marcustomlinson> morning callmepk seb128 duflu jibel oSoMoN and other desktoppers
[08:33] <duflu> Hi marcustomlinson 
[08:34] <seb128> hey again desktoper, feeling better after a small nap, being up at 5am is not for me...
[08:34] <seb128> hey marcustomlinson, how are you?
[08:35] <marcustomlinson> seb128: feeling like I might need a nap too. otherwise, doing ok thanks
[08:36] <jibel> Hi marcustomlinson 
[08:36] <jibel> salut seb128 
[08:38] <seb128> lut jibel 
[08:51] <didrocks> good morning
[08:52] <duflu> Morning didrocks 
[08:53] <didrocks> hey duflu 
[08:55] <callmepk> hi marcustomlinson seb128 oSoMoN 
[08:55] <callmepk> and hi didrocks 
[08:56] <didrocks> hey callmepk!
[08:58] <seb128> lut didrocks, hey callmepk 
[09:04] <Laney> \o|
[09:07] <didrocks> hey seb128, Laney 
[09:07] <seb128> hey Laney!
[09:08] <marcustomlinson> hey Laney
[09:08] <marcustomlinson> and hey didrocks
[09:12] <Laney> happy rainly thursday didrocks seb128 marcustomlinson 
[09:15] <duflu> Hi Laney
[09:23] <jibel> Salut Laney 
[09:31] <didrocks999> hey hey Laney 
[09:32] <Laney> aloha duflu jibel and didrocks999!
[09:35] <Laney> the return of the 999
[10:41] <juliank> My thorough autoremover suggests I can remove ubuntu-mono
[10:41] <juliank> presumably because adwaita-icon-theme   Depends ubuntu-mono | adwaita-icon-theme-full
[10:41] <juliank> but somehow I feel like that's the wrong approach :D
[10:42] <juliank> for some reason I have mutter installed
[10:44] <juliank> (the thorough autoremover is a pseudo-boolean optimizer and it just removes as many automatically installed packages as it can while keeping all manually installed ones intact; without caring for order of dependencies)
[10:46] <Laney> mutter used to be a dependency of gnome-shell, you can indeed remove that
[10:46] <Laney> for the icon theme, if you don't want to use it, go ahead and remove I guess
[10:49] <juliank> I guess I could remove it, I only use vanilla gnome
[10:50] <juliank> mutter was weirdly kept around because
[10:50] <juliank> i A gdm3        Depends  gnome-session | x-session-manager | x-window-manager | x-terminal-emulator
[10:50] <juliank> p   mutter      Provides x-window-manager      
[10:50] <juliank> apt autoremove is so limited :D
[10:50] <Laney> apt autoremove --serious
[10:51] <juliank> I was thinking apt autoremove --thorough
[10:51] <juliank> but that word is prone to typos
[10:52] <Laney> yeah
[10:52] <Laney> --max?
[10:52]  * Laney bikesheds
[10:52] <juliank> apt autoremove --deep
[10:53] <juliank> or --in-depth
[10:53] <juliank> --full
[10:53] <juliank> joke version would be --assiduous
[10:54] <juliank> Maybe it will be there in 21.10
[10:54] <Laney> assiduous should be --full --purge
[10:55] <juliank> Thing is, that mode like also removers xserver-xorg-input-all and -input-wacom becauses obviously -input-libev is enough to satisfy all dependencies D:
[10:55] <juliank> um, libinput, not libev
[10:56] <juliank> same for va-driver-all and vdpau-driver-all - the dependencies allow removing everything except one driver
[11:01] <kenvandine> happy snowy day :)
[11:24] <marcustomlinson> hey kenvandine
[11:25] <marcustomlinson> up early to play in the snow I see :)
[11:28] <marcustomlinson> and now I see it's for meetings... boo
[11:32] <Laney> assigning all the work to marcustomlinson MUHAHAHAHA
[12:09] <kenvandine> :-)
[12:09] <marcustomlinson> :,(
[13:06] <didrocks999> does anyone have a simple example of out of source build makefile (without autotools)?
[13:06]  * didrocks999 wonders which env var to use
[13:25] <marcustomlinson> didrocks999: sure, I keep makefiles out of all my source
[13:25] <marcustomlinson> ;)
[13:25] <didrocks999> hehe. I wish, but alongside our Go program, we need to build a C lib (pam lib), I would like to have the strict minimum Makefile instead of bringing along Meson or others…
[13:26] <oSoMoN> a README.md with instructions on how to build using gcc will do :)
[13:26] <ItzSwirlz> Go for Meson would *maybe* be nice?
[13:27] <ItzSwirlz> I think most likely they would use Google's GN system (like Dart projects)
[13:27] <didrocks999> oSoMoN: I will just need then a parser in debian/rules :p
[13:28] <didrocks999> ItzSwirlz: I can survive with bare go tools to build and generates everything I need, it’s just this lib which is annoying
[13:28] <didrocks999> or I can probably do a main.go which calls gcc and install it in DESTDIR…
[13:28] <ItzSwirlz> Of course, it's classic C that is always annoying
[13:29] <ItzSwirlz> well have fun if you can :P (and if you want to be lazy like me you can also build your go files with gccgo which exists for whatever reason lol)
[15:48] <hellsworth> good morning desktopers
[15:48] <marcustomlinson> hey hellsworth
[15:48] <oSoMoN> hey hellsworth 
[15:49] <hellsworth> hey guys
[15:55] <jibel> Good morning hellsworth