[00:24] hi how do i change the name and mount point of an external hard drive? [00:24] like instead of saying 2 TB Volume [00:25] and i want it to mount to /media/user/newdrivename instead of UUID [00:42] user01: man fstab [00:43] locsmif_work, i looked in my fstab and i didnt see the drive that is being mounted as it was named [00:43] maybe it was a label [00:43] user01: or perhaps you need to write an udev rule... is that still used? [00:44] udev probably could, yeah, but fstab isn't a bad way to go if you have opinions on where and how your filesystems should be mounted [00:44] It says online you need to specify a "nofail" option for when it isn't connected [00:44] in fstab [00:45] sarnold, i could do fstab but i thought that might be a bad idea for portable hard drives which may or may not be connected at boot [00:45] I'm not sure how to alter the name though - isn't that governed by the filesystem label? [00:45] user01: use the 'nofail' option then [00:46] user01: what's the filesystem on your external harddrive? [00:46] ive got a couple [00:46] ext4 on all [00:47] is the drive currently mounted? [00:47] user01: e2label is probably what you need [00:47] that sounds right [00:47] xamua, yes [00:47] look in /etc/mtab then, not fstab [00:48] it won't show in fstab unless you've put it there [00:49] if it's currently mounted it'll be in /etc/mtab and also /proc/mounts [00:49] udev is likely what you want though [00:49] user01: the command blkid will give you what you need in terms of uuid [00:50] I see xamua disagrees, but I would use fstab with nofail, and I'd change the name probably by changing the label with e2label [00:50] udev is kind of complicated [00:50] to put it mildly [00:50] not that I disagree. just skimming. e2label and then an fstab entry would do the trick as well [00:50] Perhaps I'm exaggerating [00:51] i think i recall using e2label before [00:51] one of my drives mounts that way anyway [00:51] user01: you can also mount by the label you set, iirc [00:51] but of course, that isn't as much of a unique identifier as an UUID is [00:52] yes UUID i like using in fstab [00:52] However, I *think* that the way fstab locates your drive (by UUID) and the way it is shown in your file explorer(s) is not the same thing. Regardless of UUID, I believe a file explorer will use the label as its name if available. [00:53] Why did my system suddenly say it is 21.04, and i'm being promted to setup gnome with a username (that it complains exists)? [00:53] add nofail as a mount option (fs_mntops) and you should, in theory, be all set. [00:53] I'm only set to get LTS releases... [00:54] where you put nofail is explained in man fstab, section fs_mntops [00:55] Is this issue a known thing or am i the only one experiencing it? I'm running Ubuntu 20.10 Desktop. [00:55] halvors1: haven't heard of it [00:55] halvors1: did you meddle with your repos somehow? [00:55] No [00:56] It all says groovy when doing "apt update" [00:56] Well, then I don't understand how it got there [00:56] Because that should be the only way, or ? [00:56] Guess i have to set mu system on hold for updates... [00:56] halvors1: that's surprising; check your logs? [00:57] Not any gnome releated package that i can see... [00:57] maybe someone else executed it onthe wrong system [00:57] halvors1: I would inspect those repos, including the ones in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ manually === PowerTower_121 is now known as PowerTower_120 [00:58] also check if you've indeed installed very new packages, otherwise you're "new" in name only I would guess [00:58] Time for my own upgrade [00:59] thx, will do, first i have to actually gain access to it thru chrooting into root fs from usb bootable drive. [01:00] Ubuntu feels more like arch now lol. [01:00] I guess i should have stayed on the LTS if i don't want developer releases :D [01:00] hehe [01:07] user01: any luck? [01:17] hi. wanted to use ubuntu server 20.10 to use zfs for boot [01:17] seems like smoe places say it can be done. can this only be done in non-server? [01:17] locsmif_work, oh sorry i was responding to some chat messages, maybe have to reboot too let's see [01:17] jrg: the server installer doesn't know how to do it yet, correct [01:17] sarnold: ah ok. that makes sense. [01:17] jrg: there's a HOWTO that you can follow to get there .. I used it for my laptop before the desktop installer could do it :) .. [01:18] https://openzfs.github.io/openzfs-docs/Getting%20Started/Ubuntu/Ubuntu%2020.04%20Root%20on%20ZFS.html [01:18] sarnold: can i install the desktop ver without the ui bits? [01:18] i can just use apt to get the server parts i need heh [01:18] jrg: you could uninstall the gui and networkmanager, I'm not sure what else if anything you'd want to clean up [01:19] so i simply can't skip installing the ui for desktop ver? [01:19] or there isn't some sort of lite ver without the ui? [01:19] i guess that would be server lol [01:19] yeah :) [01:20] user01: no worries, I'll check the backlog tomorrow :) my time zone dictates sleepy time [01:21] locsmif_work, oh maybe i need something else [01:21] user01: oh [01:21] locsmif_work, it is ext4 but it is luks drive [01:21] oh fuck hahaha [01:23] hmm, seems something ugly might be in groovy-updates... [01:25] where is the "only upgrade to long term releases actually set?" [01:25] user01: looks like you might need udev after all [01:25] user01: that is, if you're looking to be prompted for the password as soon as you plug in the drive [01:26] sudo e2label /dev/dm-0 drivename seems to have done something let me reboot and see if it worked [01:26] halvors1: /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades [01:26] user01: found some info here, but apparently the matter is somewhat unresolved: https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=299969 [01:28] sarnold: will check that file, suspect unattended-upgrades is doing something fishy... [01:29] user01: it's going to be hard unless you're experienced. I can't help at this time, it might take me the rest of the night ;-) [01:29] halvors1: unattended-upgrades goes to great lengths to try to avoid smelling of fish :) [01:29] user01: more info here: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=189549 here: https://superuser.com/questions/101042/udev-mount-encrypted-volume-upon-usb-stick-insertion and here: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/620821/decrypt-luks-partition-by-a-script-in-udev-rules [01:29] locsmif_work: btw user01 quit three minutes ago [01:29] locsmif_work, ok it worked [01:29] ugh [01:29] aha and returned sixzteen seconds ago :) [01:29] ah cool [01:30] Fri 29 01:26:43 < locsmif_work> user01: found some info here, but apparently the matter is somewhat unresolved: https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=299969 [01:30] Fri 29 01:29:12 < locsmif_work> user01: it's going to be hard unless you're experienced. I can't help at this time, it might take me the rest of the night ;-) [01:30] user01: it worked with LUKS?? [01:30] locsmif_work, like i said i wanted to reboot to see if it mounted with the location and label i created and it did [01:30] Ok, well at least that's good news [01:31] Because if I hear LUKS I get both excited and petrified [01:31] yes i just had to specify the dev as dev/dm-X [01:31] I'm not even sure how it works with Windows & Bitlocker but I presume it all works out of the box there. For the NSA too, probably ;-) [01:32] user01: alright :) [01:32] thanks for the help [01:32] no worries [01:32] i need to remember to write down what i did this time :P [01:33] user01: I have a file where I keep sysadmin notes [01:33] so do i [01:33] It's like a captain's log, without the stardates [01:33] ..but with real dates [01:33] but i still am too lazy sometimes to write it down [01:33] it's worth writing things down [01:33] actually it is good for me to see what i dont remember [01:33] I wish I'd started that habit sooner [01:34] 1 year later [01:34] I've found it helps to write down ffmpeg commands especially [01:34] decades on my memory isn't what it used to be [01:34] emacs users have org-mode [01:34] ffmpeg stuff ill write down but i find those commands have changed over the years too [01:34] sarnold: try to remember by heart how to hardcode subtitles onto a video with ffmpeg *g* [01:34] everyone else has to make do with other things :) -- I recently found out about https://obsidian.md/ and it looks neat to me, but i haven't tried it yet. [01:35] there are too many cool tools to learn some times [01:35] locsmif_work: yeah, exactly that kind of thing :) when you've spent three hours figuring it out you may think "i'll never forget this again, not after this!" but .. give it three weeks :) [01:36] haha [01:36] obsidian.md looks awesome [01:36] And it uses Markdown, which I already nkow [01:36] know* [01:36] im sure there is some vim plugin too [01:37] I've regretfully abandoned working in editors like vim [01:37] I use full featured IDEs for everything now [01:37] Well, everything, not for simple configuration files and simple shell scripts [01:38] Large projects in vim? It just isn't going to work [01:38] Well perhaps there are some clinically insane kernel devs who stick to it [01:39] a friend uses this on his mac https://happenapps.com/ -- markdown *and* latex! sounds cool :) [01:40] sarnold: those are good tips [01:40] why not xelatex? :P === vlm_ is now known as vlm === zbenjamin is now known as Guest54671 === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [02:21] Whenever I dock my laptop I have to enter into the settings and enable one of the displays. After that, the display works just fine. Next time undock and re-dock, or reboot, I have to do it again. [02:21] Any idea how the setting isn't sticking? === de-facto_ is now known as de-facto [02:58] Evening... I set up "hibernate when i close the lid of my laptop" but when the system returns from hibernation all the applications were closed. Is there a setting for that? [02:59] oh weird; are you logged in or are you greeted with a login prompt or what happened? [02:59] returns to login screen - i login and its a fresh login [02:59] so it appears to hibernate the OS properly.. but maybe not X [03:00] and you're sure it's not just a shutdown + start kind of thing instead? uptime shows a big number rather than small? [03:00] Well let me clarify... I was running the manual command to see if hibernate worked... so i ran this: sudo systemctl hibernate [03:00] let me check runtime... if you see me disconnect you know why :) [03:00] :D [03:02] yeah it must be shutting down [03:02] because uptime went back to 0 [03:03] okay, at least that makes some kind of sense :) [03:03] tru that [03:03] now i have some new searching terms :) [03:03] ok so right now i'd take any method to being able to boot ubuntu with a mirror for the OS heh [03:03] am i missing something here? i cannot use drives configured for mdadm for booting? [03:03] ExcessiveAggro, do you have a swap partition at least as large as your RAM? [03:04] is there a way to disable the "downloading and installing security updates" part of a 20.04 install using autoinstall? [03:06] phillipsjk: oh good question, I forgot the basics.. [03:06] jrg: iirc dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc -- and select both drives to install grub [03:07] ExcessiveAggro: TIL systemd-sleep.conf has a bunch of settings [03:08] sarnold I will check that out thank you [03:09] phillipsjk let me check [03:10] phillipsjk well that may be the problem. I just got this new laptop and didnt check how the partitions were configured. looks like 4gb swap and 16gb ram [03:10] that would do it [03:11] hi guys [03:11] how do use apt in python script to update ubuntu [03:11] sometime the graphic setup pop up while using script [03:11] how to fix that ? [03:12] i am using it in python [03:12] example apt -y install postfix [03:12] than the gui popup [03:12] is so studpid [03:12] ubuntucrap: DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive may help [03:13] ubuntucrap: check debconf(7) for details [03:13] debian_frontend ? [03:13] ubuntucrap: and see also /nick ubuntuismagical [03:13] sarnold: there is no way to mirror two drives from the installer? [03:14] DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive apt-get -y update [03:14] DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive apt-get -y upgrade [03:14] so this the one [03:14] alright let me try [03:14] finally [03:14] sarnold: i don't see any way to use zfs, mdadm, or btrfs from the installer to simply mirror two drives for booting [03:15] i am coding ubuntu hardneing [03:15] hardening [03:15] almost gave up coding it [03:15] because of this stupid pop up [03:15] thank you gys [03:17] hello all! could someone guide me how to properly extend my /home to my external drive? [03:17] ExcessiveAggro, Bad news is at 100MB/s, 16GB will take nearly 3 minutes to hybernate (SSD would be much faster, assuming spinning rust). [03:17] this laptop is new - nvme [03:18] I see a way to create a syslink, but that shows an 'unopenable' folder in /home [03:21] heatwave: what are you trying to accomplish? [03:22] I had created a /home on one of my external drive's parition. Now it's full and I would like to chunk out another partition from my external drive, and add to /home [03:23] what would you like to happen when the external drive isn't available? [03:23] should you use gpt these days instead of msdos on the mklabel? [03:23] I guess I can create a live boot and use gparted for this? But is there any easier way to just use that new chunk as 'extra' storage for /home? [03:24] i used gpt but im going back to actually write notes now [03:24] sarnold: honestly it will only have my projects, so would not affect too much [03:25] meaning it shouldnt affect the system if its mounted or not? [03:25] heatwave: then I think you'd be best suited to make a directory on the drive, like /media/external/heatwave/projects and symlink /home/heatwave/projects -> /media/external/heatwave/projects [03:26] aah, that will easily link the two? I think it would be perfect [03:27] somehow I tried a syslink using a 'stackoverflow' answer but I only see an 'inode' folder which I cannot access [03:27] It's not super *easy*, it'll always be a little bit funny .. but it's pretty good at handling "I put all my projects there, and when the disk isn't plugged in, that's fine" [03:27] sarnold: got you === anonimip_ is now known as anonymip === antoine5 is now known as antoine === HotDogThe2nd is now known as HappyHotDog === yCrazyEdd is now known as CrazyEddy === DSyndrome is now known as Death_Syn === Kamilion|ZNC is now known as Kamilion === nicolasbock_ is now known as nicolasbock === SirScott9 is now known as SirScott === graingert_ is now known as graingert [03:39] mount === Spork_Witch is now known as SporkWitch === jmcgnh_ is now known as jmcgnh === jmcgnh is now known as jmcgnh_ === jmcgnh_ is now known as jmcgnh [04:27] any idea when ubuntu is supposed to get the new 5.11 kernel? I tried mainline but it didn't work all that well. [04:28] I got an AX210 card and a shiny new AP. The new AP makes a big difference, but I would love to get the card going too [04:29] Well that was a long journey... tried to resize an encrypted partition and ended up doing a rebuild [04:30] :I [04:30] sorry that didn't work out [04:31] meh no biggie - each reinstall brings some learning [04:31] Got my swap as big as my ram now... so back too the hibernate enable journey [04:31] odd the systemctl hibernate still shuts the machine down rather than hibernating [04:32] Hold on, there is a weird deal with ubuntu where they don't install it by default. [04:33] ExcessiveAggro, https://askubuntu.com/questions/1240123/how-to-enable-hibernate-option-in-ubuntu-20-04 [04:33] did you happen to find that already? [04:33] nope let me read through it [04:34] don't skip steps. For whatever reason I've had to do it on two separate laptops. [04:38] Thanks magic_ninja I'm going to bookmark and check it out tomorrow morning. Sleep time :) [04:53] hm [04:54] if i am debootstrapping then 20.10 would be called groovy? [04:54] ie: similar to 20.04 being just focal? [04:54] !groovy [04:54] Ubuntu 20.10 (Groovy Gorilla) is the 33rd release of Ubuntu and is the current regular release. Download at https://ubuntu.com/download - Release notes at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GroovyGorilla/ReleaseNotes [04:54] Yes [04:55] cool. i am actually going aginst the grain here using this... https://openzfs.github.io/openzfs-docs/Getting%20Started/Ubuntu/Ubuntu%2020.04%20Root%20on%20ZFS.html [04:55] but i am using the server iso since it seems like the reason it said not to use it was from lack of zfs requirements in focal maybe? [04:57] although to be honest it probably would have been just as easy to use the desktop iso considering most of it seems like i'm just installing from scratch [05:00] !minimal | jrg Too: [05:00] jrg Too:: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want. The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [05:01] Bashing-om: ah. i get that but in this case i am trying to configure zfs mirror boot and root [05:03] jrg: Not been there - not done that - best then I do not comment further :D [05:03] Bashing-om: yes it is an absolute pita [05:04] i figured the installer would do this since it supports zfs but it does not do the mirroring [05:04] whether or not i may have found a better/quicker way to do this i do not know. [05:04] nopefully 21.04 has zfs mirroring for boot/root [05:04] in the installer [05:05] jrg: Here's the book on ZFS on ubuntu: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/zfs-focus-on-ubuntu-20-04-lts-blog-posts/16355 . === ledeni_ is now known as ledeni === guiverc2 is now known as guiverc [06:27] well... it works [06:27] neat === wyre_ is now known as wyre === billybigrigger0 is now known as billybigrigger [07:12] I need some help [07:13] trying to install virtualbox on 20.04 [07:13] The character device /dev/vboxdrv does not exist. [07:13] Please install the virtualbox-dkms package and the appropriate [07:13] headers, most likely linux-headers-generic. [07:13] You will not be able to start VMs until this problem is fixed. [07:14] what should I do? [07:16] ok, I belive I solved it now [07:16] np === jelly-home is now known as jelly === billybigrigger6 is now known as billybigrigger [08:46] hey there - I set ulimits in /etc/systemd/user.conf and system.conf [08:46] but when I ulimit -n, it's still 1024 [08:46] how do I set it to a default value properly? [08:51] wings_: did you systemctl daemon-reload ? [08:52] no, I full on rebooted... [08:52] after triple checking the syntax [08:56] so what did you configure exactly in these files? [08:56] DefaultLimitNOFILE=10000000 [08:56] do I need to also set LimitNOFILE? [08:57] i did manage to set ulimit -n 1000000 just fine [08:59] 10000000 > 1000000 [09:00] yes, I know. [09:00] but i'm not sure thats why it failed setting what yo configured in system.conf [09:00] for some reason I can't seem to push it much higher than a million, but a million is sufficient [09:01] i just need it to be *default* as I need to run things that can't set ulimit themselves :( [09:01] i'm only reading up on this documentation for the first time, may not be the right person to help [09:01] no worries, appreciate it anyways [09:02] based on the man pages, i would assume changing the default works as you did on ubuntu 18.04 LTS and higher (not sure what you are running). [09:02] you'd need to place the configuration in the [Manager] section of system.conf [09:03] (this section is in there by default, and it's th eonly section, but if you placed it before that line, or removed this line, this would break it) [09:06] tomreyn: ubuntu 20.04 in my case. [09:07] and it's in the [Manager] section indeed :( [09:09] i'm wondering whether you need to alsoraise the limit in /etc/security/limits.conf [09:11] and then there is also /etc/sysctl.conf === Scotty_Trees2 is now known as Scotty_Trees === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube === mateen1 is now known as mateen [11:13] anyone know how to install olm/pk module in go? [11:13] i think it needs a host library [11:26] chovy: can you provide a little more context, whats your endgoal, following a guide? [11:26] i'm tr ying to install gumuks [11:26] gomuks [11:26] its a cli matrix client and requires go but when i do `go install` it fails on and i don't k now why [11:27] the guys on github just closed my ticket w/o helping [11:32] chovy, so it is not our repo, what guide do you follow/url? [11:32] oerheks: your install "instructions" [11:32] might be this, dont see ubuntu among, might need compile from source? https://github.com/tulir/gomuks/wiki/Installation [11:33] they don't provide ubuntu instructions [11:34] i am compiling from source. but its missing some library from the OS. i don't know which [11:34] olm/pk is all i know [11:34] never heard of it [11:35] can't fit shit in google either [11:41] you're building golang from source? [11:43] yes [11:43] no. [11:43] i used ppa for golang. i'm builidng gomuks from source [11:44] ah [11:44] i had to install libolm-dev which fixed the first error but now i have another one olm/pk [11:45] hi [11:45] wanted to ask if ubuntu has some kind of background process when it accesses my disks periodicly [11:45] I mean I have mounted an empty disk [11:45] and I see the ubuntu is accesseng it every few seconds [11:46] and the disk does not go to sleep [11:48] elektrinis: these days ubuntu has a lot of things happening in the background, see journalctl -f for a realtime investigation of your system [11:49] elektrinis: you can install iotop and see what's on the top [11:49] snap activity is one example happening === nikow4 is now known as nikow [12:21] kernel: Bluetooth: hci0: advertising data len corrected 28 -> 27 [12:21] driver issue? [12:24] lotuspsychje, snap activity ? [12:26] (unless you installed any snap that causes any activity there should definitely not be any beyond the refresh checks that only happen 3-4 times/day ) [12:41] ogra: im talking about journal logs having an own life these days, i saw banners stuff on snap once [12:43] try it for yourself, a whole day journalctl -f === hacxman is now known as hexo === Bilge is now known as BLG === yokel_ is now known as yokel [13:20] Hey. [13:22] Hi all [13:24] why does word-list-compress d < ru.cwl fail? This is installed by aspell-ru. the walk through is:sudo apt install aspell-ru cp /usr/share/aspell/ru.cwl.gz . gunzip -d ru.cwl.gz word-list-compress d < ru.cwl [13:27] no idea, maybe some wrong use of < ? https://linux.die.net/man/1/word-list-compress [13:27] explain what you want to do exactly? [13:28] word-list-compress d < ru.cwl [13:28] ERROR: Corrupt Input. [13:28] like they are rambling in ##Linux for more info .. [13:28] oerheks, I just want a text file with the word list [13:29] word-list-compress d ru.cwl > ru.txt [13:30] oerheks, does that work for you? [13:31] i don't have russian installed. [13:31] oerheks, word-list-compress d < ru.cwl > ru.txt [13:31] ERROR: Corrupt Input. [13:33] interesting, that is not the line i wrote. [13:33] good luck! [13:35] oerheks, the line you wrote is not in the right format [13:37] lesshaste, well, did your gunzip dcompress without errors ? looks more like your input file is simply corrupt [13:37] ogra, yes it did [13:38] ogra, it's just what you get with sudo apt install aspell-ru [13:41] hi is it possible to run smartctl on a luks drive? [13:42] $ zcat /usr/share/aspell/en_GB-variant_0.cwl.gz | word-list-compress d [13:42] ERROR: Corrupt Input. [13:42] seems like a more general incompatibility ... i'D file a bug [13:48] ogra, with aspell? [13:48] yeah [13:48] ogra, I wonder how to do that [13:48] ubuntu-bug aspell [14:01] hi i have installer ubuntu server on a laptop, what is the easy way to disable sleep on lid closed or any other scenario [14:03] moldorcoder7 Gnome Tweaks has an option to disable susped on lid close [14:03] mbordere, i mean without gui [14:03] mbordere, the server edition still goes in sleep mode for whatever reason [14:04] ogra, reported [14:06] lesshaste, good luck with it 🙂 [14:06] $ python3 -c "import sys; print(sys.modules['zope'])" [14:06] [14:06] this is on 20.04...can't figure out what's causing it [14:13] ogra, thanks! [14:14] ogra, my experience is that 5 years I will get an email saying it relates to an old version and I should update the bug report :) [14:16] which software cna I use to fill a pdf form? [14:16] document viewer is not good for this task [14:17] masber, hmm...google will tell you. [14:17] xournal maybe? [14:17] I have Unity desktop manager as well as Cinnamon. Can I remove Unity without effecting Cinnamon? [14:18] masber, libreoffice? [14:18] I tried xournal, not good it writes on top of the document, does not really fills the form [14:19] BTW the problems I was having with gnome-software not showing installed programs is solved by typing killall gnome-software before opening the GUI gnome-software. [14:24] The problems I was having with gnome-software not showing installed programs is solved by typing killall gnome-software before opening the GUI gnome-software. [14:31] hi, is there any way of making the dhcp client work? [14:31] ens37: DHCP: No gateway received from DHCP server. [14:31] Jan 29 06:03:30 perlaa-stream systemd-networkd[5398]: ens37: DHCP lease lost [14:32] its just looping the interface up & down because of this [14:32] as for env, its running a in vm [14:32] ens37 being a hostonly adapter [14:33] I Googled and found sudo apt-get purge unity* I am worried that the * may remove programs common to any other desktop manager installed. Is that the case? [14:34] hwk, do you have the host-only adaptor set up as a DHCP server within Virtualbox(?) settings? e.g. https://i.imgur.com/wfhsPKT.jpg [14:35] yes, dhcp is setup (without any gateway it seems) on the hostonly net (running vmware). its running fine on another vm (openwrt distro) [14:35] wondering if there is a option on the ubuntu server new network manager, to fix this [14:37] its picks up an ip, but imeditally drops it , hence this ystemd-networkd[5398]: ens37: DHCP lease lost [14:37] hi, I just installed evince but it is not showing in the application launcher? [14:38] nunya_ : if your are planing to replace the dekstop manager, the new one will have its own dependencies (Will reinstall them if required) [14:41] I have Cinnamon as well. I tried Unity but decided it felt too much like Mac (nothing bad about Mac if that's what you're into) I want to remove Unity without effecting Cinnamon. [14:42] You may have to logout and login to a new session before it shows in the menu. [14:42] you walking on a thin line, try your luck (dont see anything that cannot be fixed in this scenario) [14:43] nunya_, apt will ask you if it should proceed ... you will see if there are any cinnamon packages in the list [14:43] (it prints a report before the y/n question) [14:43] How do I know which programs are common to Unity and Cinnamon? [14:44] their packages have them marked as dependency :) [14:44] well, if you see "cinnamon" anywhere in the list, hit N [14:44] Ok thanks. [14:45] greetings [14:45] Been trying to find the info via gogol but seems i'm not using the propper keywords [14:46] maybe your spelling is abit off :-) [14:46] whenever i'm not playing any audio the driver is probably putting the sound card on "high gain" or something like that, which endup picking up EMF from cellphones ... any way to prevent that? [14:46] Is sudo apt-get purge unity* correct with the * or without? [14:46] (apart from playing audio in background at say 60000 Hz so that i cant hear it) [14:47] ramkamx: faraday cage? [14:47] the PC enclosure is supposed to be one, but it's not :-) [14:48] i think what you are hearing is from the amp itself, try with deaphones [14:48] head* [14:48] possibly [14:49] ok i'll play a background tone at 100kHz, it will send signals so that the amp doesnt swithc to high gain, signals that will be filtered by the high pass filter after .... [14:49] :D [14:49] rectification connection [14:49] means? [14:50]