| lubot | [telegram] <RikMills> Very fun :) (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <wxl> this looks fun https://www.arkel-od.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Tim-Wiggins-Norway-Bikepacking.jpg) | 00:00 |
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| wxl | i have a pic kind of like that somewhere with about that much snow except i was on an old cruiser bike i found XD | 00:00 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> pizza not lasagna (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <wxl> @teward001 don't deny it. also, go eat your lasagna) | 00:01 |
| wxl | pizza??? what kind of cat are you anyways? XD | 00:01 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> *smacks wxl again* | 00:02 |
| wxl | gee @teward001 you make this too easy. kind of like garfield! | 00:02 |
| kc2bez[m] | <wxl "this looks fun https://www.arkel"> It looks like something my son would do and love. | 00:02 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> *accidentally's the CI infrastructure* oops. | 00:02 |
| teward | meh | 00:04 |
| teward | it's been a chaotic week cut me some slack :p | 00:04 |
| * kc2bez[m] sends Lenny to give teward a hug. | 00:05 | |
| kc2bez[m] | It has been a rough one here too. Rougher than normal actually. Onward we go though. | 00:07 |
| wxl | https://share.riseup.net/#zADb0VL1gyENGaP1GgK2ZA | 00:10 |
| kc2bez[m] | XD | 00:12 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> well I WAS going to run some updates to the Lubuntu CI... but maybe I"ll wait until next week to do it now | 00:13 |
| wxl | heheheheh | 00:13 |
| wxl | i'm sorry, there's no simon to pick on soooooooooooo | 00:13 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> so pick on Dan he's here :P | 00:14 |
| wxl | i haven't found something to pick on dan ABOUT yet | 00:15 |
| kc2bez[m] | He likes me :P | 00:15 |
| wxl | however, i do emphasize the word yet | 00:15 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> well then perhaps y'all should smack each other upside the head on the Council :P | 00:15 |
| wxl | how do you know we don't? XD | 00:15 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> lack of transparency means I don't know, but I can also just chaotically send you to the abyss lol | 00:17 |
| wxl | the abyss: home sweet home | 00:18 |
| wxl | https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/improvements-for-hardware-support-in-ubuntu-desktop-installation-media/20606 | 00:43 |
| kc2bez[m] | I am at a loss re bug 1910934 | 01:41 |
| ubot93 | Bug 1910934 in lxqt-config (Ubuntu) "lxqt loses natural scrolling" [Undecided, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1910934 | 01:41 |
| wxl | yeah i know | 01:42 |
| wxl | it's unfortunate there's no pid listed | 01:44 |
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| wxl | hey if anyone's got a trackpad available, does scrolling need to be on one of the non-disabled options for natural scrolling to work? | 22:40 |
| lynorian | what is natural scrolling again? | 22:43 |
| wxl | backwards XD | 22:43 |
| wxl | it drives me crazy | 22:43 |
| wxl | but it's the default for apple's | 22:43 |
| kc2bez[m] | I am not a fan either. | 22:44 |
| wxl | anyways this person who's having trouble with it has scrolling disabled and i'm wondering if that has an actual meaning or not | 22:45 |
| wxl | i can't even seem to make natural scrolling work at all in vbox | 22:46 |
| kc2bez[m] | Oh I follow you now. I would think scrolling needs to be enabled, yes. Let me test. | 22:47 |
| kc2bez[m] | Disabled does just that. Disables scrolling. I didn't notice that it took the mark off of natural scrolling though. I will try a reboot and see what happens. | 22:49 |
| lynorian | yes scrolling needs to be enabled for scrolling to work | 22:49 |
| wxl | ok then that's at least part of their problem | 22:49 |
| lynorian | apparently the input config gui lets you set natural scrolling on things that can't scroll | 22:49 |
| kc2bez[m] | After a reboot the box is still checked. | 22:50 |
| wxl | so setting scrolling to disabled does nothing to the setting for natural scrolling | 22:51 |
| wxl | but it DOES disable scrolling, right? | 22:51 |
| lynorian | I don't really think my steam controller has scrolling capability but the config lets me set natural scrolling for it | 22:51 |
| lynorian | yes | 22:51 |
| wxl | so this person has a usb mouse | 22:51 |
| kc2bez[m] | Yes, can confirm disabled disables scrolling. | 22:51 |
| wxl | they likely do not have a touch area | 22:51 |
| wxl | maybe they have a roller wheel | 22:52 |
| wxl | in which case those other settings may be irrelevant | 22:52 |
| kc2bez[m] | Let me try that on my desktop | 22:52 |
| lynorian | natural scrolling works with my roller wheel | 22:52 |
| wxl | i.e. where "disabled" really means "disabled if a touch device, otherwise n/a" | 22:52 |
| wxl | lynorian: so with the roller wheel, if you have natural scrolling on and scrolling disabled, it does not work, right? | 22:53 |
| kc2bez[m] | It already has disabled on my desktop with mouse | 22:53 |
| wxl | kc2bez[m]: are the other options greyed out? | 22:53 |
| kc2bez[m] | The other options are greyed out and not available. | 22:53 |
| lynorian | it still scrolls | 22:53 |
| kc2bez[m] | yup | 22:53 |
| kc2bez[m] | to both | 22:53 |
| lynorian | natural still reverses | 22:54 |
| kc2bez[m] | yes | 22:54 |
| wxl | ok well that was likely a red herring | 22:54 |
| wxl | although there is a "button" option in their picture | 22:54 |
| wxl | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/520298260/lxqt-natural-scrolling-unchecked-2.jpg | 22:54 |
| lynorian | I ahve the button option but am not sure what it does | 22:55 |
| kc2bez[m] | Gah, i can't live this way for long. My brain can't handle it. | 22:56 |
| wxl | "natural scrolling" is a classic case of apple's marketing genius | 22:57 |
| * kc2bez[m] uploaded an image: screenshot91.png (43KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/aBwBMWEhPrcYoDCDukYFBOCj/screenshot91.png > | 22:58 | |
| lynorian | making controls seems backwards is a bit disorenting | 22:58 |
| kc2bez[m] | I guess I have button scrolling but I have no idea what that is. | 22:58 |
| wxl | oh you have a button option too | 22:58 |
| lynorian | I also have a button option | 22:58 |
| lynorian | does anyone know what the button option is | 22:58 |
| kc2bez[m] | I don't notice any difference. | 22:59 |
| kc2bez[m] | I am on 20.10 so there is that too. | 23:00 |
| * lynorian is on 21.04 rigght now | 23:00 | |
| kc2bez[m] | I don't have a physical machine with 20.04 right now. | 23:00 |
| * wxl shrugs | 23:02 | |
| * lynorian looks at what the manual says and notices a slightly out of date screenshot | 23:06 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL146c944317c0: Update outdated screenshot for removed features] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL146c944317c0 | 23:09 | |
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