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[01:36] <ubptgbot> <Soscat House> Hi, trying to get a pixel3a up as a daily driver... Is it normal that I cant add an APN ?   my provider creates 2 when the sim is inserted.  I can edit them, but adding a new one does nothing until I back out, at which point its gone.  pixel 3a on ota15.  thanks!
 Does anyone have a click built for Ubsync for arm64?  It's the one app critical to the way I use UT that seems to be missing for arm64.  Thanks to any one that can forward it to me!
 have you tried the repo? :p
 oh launchpad hmmmm
 @Fuseteam [have you tried the repo? :p], I don't think he's made an arm64 version of UBsync public yet - there's a thread here on this and it seems someone got something working, but it's unclear as to how to build it - https://forums.ubports.com/topic/5116/help-creating-an-ubsync-arm64-version/30?_=1611974143449
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 oh that thread is recent
 it seems the code has to be updated for multiarch
 yup
 i think its gonna take a while yet sadly, as far as i can tell the libraries need to be updated aswell
 but luksus appears to be able to build it
 My Volla Phone finally arrived today.  It is beautiful!  Everything I have tested so far is working great (haven't tried bluetooth, external display, or libertine yet though), including making and receiving phone calls with T-mobile, but seems my mobile data connection is limited to 2G (where as I can get 3G/HSPA with my Meizu  Pro 5,
[04:16] <ubptgbot> and 4G/LTE with my OnePlus One with the same SIM).  Wondering whether moving to AT&T would allow the Volla to connect to 4G, or if there are APN settings I need to change to get 4G for it.  Guess we'll see.
 [Edit] My Volla Phone finally arrived today (here in Central Texas, USA).  It is beautiful!  Everything I have tested so far is working great (haven't tried bluetooth, external display, or libertine yet though), including making and receiving phone calls with T-mobile, but seems my mobile data connection is limited to 2G (where as I ca
[04:17] <ubptgbot> n get 3G/HSPA with my Meizu  Pro 5, and 4G/LTE with my OnePlus One with the same SIM).  Wondering whether moving to AT&T would allow the Volla to connect to 4G, or if there are APN settings I need to change to get 4G for it.  Guess we'll see.
 Also - I am on OTA-14 with the Volla still which is what it came with, guess I should see if updating to OTA-15 fixes this, or brings on any regressions.  Anyone know in this regard?
 ...hmmm looking at OTA-15 notes seems that it might fix the issue I am having.  Will update now.
 coool
 Anyone Porting Ubports to xiaomi MiA1 (Tissot) device ?
 Most if not all ports in progress are listed on the forums :p
 hmmm... still stuck in 2G.  So either the bands are not lining up in this area for 4G (even though based on T-mobile's and Volla's specs it should work on band 4 850MHz and band 5 2100MHz) - or something else is going on.  Guess I will change SIM slots and see whether that fixes it or not.
 Have to say the Volla phone's hardware and performance with UT definitely make it seem like worthy of being considered the current UBports "flagship" though.
 ... that is, if I can get 4G working for it.
 I think it really is some kind of UT's flagship since it's powerful enough and there's an official partnership
 It feels really good in the hand, and is pretty snappy in all of its functions.  Finger print unlock is quick and responsive.  Camera zoom is a tiny bit laggy, but it works, and has nicer saturation and sharpness than my Meizu Pro 5 (even though the sensor is less megapixels).
 The teardrop notch is not that obtrusive, although that and the rounded corners does mess with the top indicator visibility a  little bit.  I tried to apply the patch for this, but it didn't go through for some reason, going to try again though.
 I also got a used Xiaomi Redmi Note 7 in (that I had bought as a backup when I didn't know if my Volla Phone was ever going to get to me).  Finally got it unlocked, now I need to try and get UT GSI flashed onto it, and see how it compares to the Volla Phone as to which will end up a daily driver.
 wow, you're invested to UT now … that's awesome
 @TotalSonic [The teardrop notch is not that obtrusive, although that and the rounded corners …], this was the deal breaker for me … if ever they do another one, I hope it doesn't have a notch and overly rounded corners but I guess that would be hard to do since that's how you describe phones nowadays 😅
 Yeah, edge to edge displays, with notches and rounded corners are just the general design direction 2019 until now.  There are a few current designs that buck this trend, but they are few and far between.  At least the notches in both the Volla and Redmi Note 7 are relatively small - but the big notches in something like the Poco F1 or
[05:18] <ubptgbot>  the iPhone 11 would not work for me at all though.
 Next big thing is the selfie camera behind the display - so no notch or teardrop or hole needed.
 I like Sony because they didn't go with the trend. Not sure though if very tall displays are good. Haven't tried on myself. Too bad that also means they don't sell well.
 I like my mi mix 3's solution with the slider lol
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 @Flohack More VoLTE setup configs https://sierrawireless.trydiscourse.com/t/setup-volte-calling-on-the-hl7648/22579/3
 I've been doing some experimenting with a Quectel EC25AF module and ofono. With modem manager, I can get it to make VoLTE calls just fine. But, I also was able to make it place a call using VoLTE with ofono, but with no audio
 I discovered, ofono did not have the capability to make VoLTE calls until just a little over two years ago when IMS was added to the ofono stack. In the last year or so, experimental CDMA support was added. I see posts of successful SMS with CDMA, but trouble with audio when making calls
 Is UTs ofono build stuck at 2017 as the git repository seems to indicate?, or am I reading it wrong?
 @rocket2nfinity PinePhone?
 So, I've learned a couple of things - current ofono can make a call and connect if you apply an LTE IMS APN instead of an LTE Data APN, but audio is not working because either audio routing is wrong, or there is a missing module. But, I haven't five this in a long time, so in not sure which. I also don't know how that works with ha
[08:39] <ubptgbot> lium and android routing
 Worked on pinephone, pinetab, and my chuwi hi10
 for PinePhone ofono from xenial_-_edge_-_pine branch is used
 Except I couldn't get ofono to work on my pinetab, only modem manager
 But how about ofono for halium builds?
 [Edit] So, I've learned a couple of things - current ofono can make a call and connect if you apply an LTE IMS APN instead of an LTE Data APN, but audio is not working because either audio routing is wrong, or there is a missing module. But, I haven't done this in a long time, so i'm not sure which. I also don't know how that works
[08:42] <ubptgbot>  with halium and android routing
 that is old, and android9 uses Mer fork
 Then that might be the problem of why ofono cannot make VoLTE calls
 On halium builds
 It will probably also need integration with RIL and vendor-specific parts for this
 ofono doesn't talk to modem directly on Halium builds
 In addition to the possibility of something to do with the HAL I might not know about
 Still, it's a start
 which kind of support does newer ofono has for IMS?
 It would be nice if someone tracked down and documented all the parts involved in making an IMS call - I just know it's not a simple switch to enable it from Android side
 https://lists.ofono.org/hyperkitty/list/ofono@ofono.org/thread/MQHZ4CVCU3I5TW4PQBUQEMHL6I3AS3WY/
 See what I posted above^^^ a day or two ago. I posted the complete chain for making a VoLTE call
 modules called, data and voice settings, and everything
 mind if we move this conversation to development channel?
 As long as @flowhack sees it, I don't care. Just passing it all on as a lot of it is beyond my level
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[10:39] <stevenm> hey can I get a little more information (from somewhere? can someone point me in the right direction?) about why the Nexus 10 was dropped?
[10:40] <stevenm> when it seems to have ample sys specs and even Canonical were developing for it at one point (before it became ubports)
[11:02] <stevenm> i'll come back...
 Checkkkk - https://bit.ly/3ae8IoE … ELON-MUSK crazy man!!!!!
 @Unfatuitously_1881 [Checkkkk - https://bit.ly/3ae8IoE … ELON-MUSK crazy man!!!!!], Ikr he is a crazy man but he isn't related to ubports
 Hello
 @BANUSHAN [Hello], Hello
 exit
 @rocket2nfinity [As long as @flowhack sees it, I don't care. Just passing it all on as a lot of i …], We have a VoLTE discussion group, it better fits there than dev group
[12:39] <ubptgbot> <By brian All rights reserved> @Soscat House [Hi, trying to get a pixel3a up as a daily driver... Is it normal that I cant add …], Mobile data on pixel 3a is a kwown issue had the same no time frame for fix
[12:43] <ubptgbot> <Хильда Забужко> (Photo, 605x1048) https://irc.ubports.com/XQzG0Wah.png
 @Хильда Забужко [<reply to media>], @admin
 dude thats so bad photoshoped
 and more then just offtopic
[13:02] <ubptgbot> <Soscat House> @By brian All rights reserved [Mobile data on pixel 3a is a kwown issue had the same no time frame for fix], Thanks!  Is there an official issue somewhere I can follow and help if needed?  Fyi... Just switched to 3g and seems much more stable (up for 5 mins. Vs 5 secs, receiving sms...)
 @delijati [dude thats so bad photoshoped], It is spam. Those Elon musk things keep coming...
 @Danfro [It is spam. Those Elon musk things keep coming...], Need elon musk to say crypto currency is trash
 And then bots will target bill gates
[14:59] <ubptgbot> <Steve Kueffer> Hello, is there a way to low the sensibility of the auto screen rotation? (sensor to sensitive on the Vollaphone)
[16:07] <ubptgbot> Vincent Moroz was added by: Vincent Moroz
[17:10] <ubptgbot> Frank Mjøs was added by: Frank Mjøs
[17:12] <ubptgbot> <Frank Mjøs> Hi. Will it be possible to download Ubuntu mobile is on the new Xperia 1 III?
 @Frank Mjøs [Hi. Will it be possible to download Ubuntu mobile is on the new Xperia 1 III?], Support for devices that come with Android 10 and 11 is still a bit of time away.
 @Fuseteam [well its a port in progress soooo], Thank you for your help,I figured out the cellular connection and started it, both SIM cards work. please tell me how to add sources of updates for the system and where to get them?
 Hello guys, when I installed Ubports on my phone I think I picked a development version. Are there others versions that are better to use, and if yes, then Is there a way to install them without redoing the entire process again?
 @Allen [Hello guys, when I installed Ubports on my phone I think I picked a development …], Which phone is it ?
 Nexus 6p
 You should have been asked on the installer which channel to use, and it defaults to stable normally
 Which issues do you see?
 Well, I installed Skype and Telegram (app) and I can't call from those — I don't know if this is a version problem or the apps don't work.
 this is just an example
 Skype is unsupported on Ubuntu Touch I ould say. For Telegram please ue TELEports
 Valling is totally unsupported on nyapp, sorry
 We dont have the necessary APIs for that
 Aso, no backgrond activity is possible for Apps, so you would miss calls a lot
 Is last stable version of Ubports better to use? I can redo the process if it solves some issues.
 [Edit] CAlling is totally unsupported on any app, sorry
 [Edit] Also, no backgrond activity is possible for Apps, so you would miss calls a lot
 @Allen [Is last stable version of Ubports better to use? I can redo the process if it so …], No, thats what it is atm :)
 I ported the Nexus 6P the only device specific issues are problems with the camera, no hotspot and wifi drops out from time to time and needs to be switched off and on again
 And people told me that BT does sometimes not come up on boot
 Ok I'll leave it as is. thanks.
 You can see your channel in system-settings ad then updates. There should be a channel switcher at the bottom
 Let me see...
 @Flohack [Skype is unsupported on Ubuntu Touch I ould say. For Telegram please ue TELEport …], I use Skype webapp and works OK
 @e [I use Skype webapp and works OK], Incuding call audio?
 Haven't tried. But i use it as messaging app and works fine
 Florian, I see "Developer mode" on the bottom, but I don't see any switch to other channels.
 (everyone uses it at work )
 Hey guys, can I use the ubports kernel for twrp recovery?
 Like generally speaking. Couldn't compile turbo from the original meizu source n tried using prebuilt meizu kernel for twrp, both didn't end up booting
 @DennoGram [Thank you for your help,I figured out the cellular connection and started it, bo …], updates are image-based, they are handled through system settings, gsi is not currently supported
 @Allen [Florian, I see "Developer mode" on the bottom, but I don't see any switch to oth …], check in "updates>updates settings"
 Got it! Thanks!
 @Fuseteam [updates are image-based, they are handled through system settings, gsi is not cu …], Thank  you
 We are going live in a few minutes! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTyO29bnsyY
 @Flohack I can see ya!
 @Flohack you are WAY more quiet than @alan_griffiths
 maybe @alan_griffiths can turn his gain down a bit too :)
 @alan_griffiths selinux? or seccomp (like snap also uses)?
 or maybe bubblewrap?
 so quiet
 @amyosx [<reply to media>], UBPorts premium when
 (Sticker, 512x184) https://irc.ubports.com/jVm4Ihwk.webp
 system ads when?
 [Edit] system ads when? :p
 please do not post any pepe in UBports groups @GarfieldArbuckle
 @dohbee [please do not post any pepe in UBports groups @GarfieldArbuckle], Pepe?
 ;_;
[19:27] <ubptgbot> <Holger Müller> It is hard to follow the show with that poor soundquality 🤓
 @Holger Müller [It is hard to follow the show with that poor soundquality 🤓], You think so? Seems to be fine here.
 @GarfieldArbuckle [UBPorts premium when], Lmao
 quality is fine, just flo is somewhat quiet compared to others in the stream
 Who do you think these guys are? Dil3mm4?
[19:40] <ubptgbot> <Holger Müller> @Danfro [You think so? Seems to be fine here.], Very different levels and is the mic of alan o.k.? It is hard to understand for me...
 Certainly different sound levels. Now Marius is the loud one. 😁
[19:42] <ubptgbot> <Holger Müller> @Danfro [Certainly different sound levels. Now Marius is the loud one. 😁], Yes, marius shouts an i am wake again 😅
 Get him to call you at your get-up-time in the morning. 😁
 i need that as a 15 year old lmao
 You need to line up. He can only wake up one after the other. 😅
 lmao
 i need waking up at 7:30 lmao
 @amyosx [Lmao], What Is Pepe?
 ;_;
 The green frog
 @GarfieldArbuckle [What Is Pepe?], don't worry about it
 @GarfieldArbuckle [What Is Pepe?], the stupid frog you posted and was deleted
 @dohbee [the stupid frog you posted and was deleted], ª
 Xdddd
 Pepo xd
 @Fuseteam [don't worry about it], Ok :)
 it is an offensive symbol of white supremacy and such. so not welcome in our groups
 I dont remember sorry
 @Flohack @mariogrip stalled? it just got qt 5.12 and is getting smooth camera soon :)
 @GarfieldArbuckle [I dont remember sorry], I think this is mainly is the US. I did not know about it before it got posted in one of the groups here. But some people - who have/had to deal with it - feel offended. So it is nice to not use it.
 @dohbee [@Flohack @mariogrip stalled? it just got qt 5.12 and is getting smooth camera so …], Smooth camera Is already in
 oh
 @Danfro [I think this is mainly is the US. I did not know about it before it got posted i …], yes this
 @mariogrip https://github.com/dotnet/maui
[19:58] <ubptgbot> Maciej Matuszczyk was added by: Maciej Matuszczyk
 @Flohack android 12 obviously
 😂
 @dohbee [@mariogrip https://github.com/dotnet/maui], They named it exactly the same way as MAUI from KDE. Seriously?
 no, that one is Maui
[20:02] <ubptgbot> <Holger Müller> Thanks for the interesting show 👍
 or MauiKit
 @XShell [They named it exactly the same way as MAUI from KDE. Seriously?], yes, yes they did
[20:04] <ubptgbot> strangebrew was added by: strangebrew
 Aftershow! https://meet.jit.si/ubports-chat
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 Chrome
 Was able to get the GSI version of the Xiaomi Redmi Note 7 flashed, but seems there is echo on receiver's end in phone calls via T-mobile, USA. Going to see how the installer version does now.
[21:14] <ubptgbot> <By brian All rights reserved> Mines the same echo on receivers end I flashed with installer and mobile data wouldn’t work
[21:14] <ubptgbot> Valery Snyder was added by: Valery Snyder
 Amazing! Look  guys - https://bit.ly/3r5HOG7 … ElonMusк crazzzу mаn! … Вitcoin to the mooon!!!!!!!!!!
 @By brian All rights reserved [Mines the same echo on receivers end I flashed with installer and mobile data wo …], Did you also have a hard time closing open apps in the multi-task card stack view when using the GSI image?  That's the other problem with GSI I noticed.
 Might have to go to Lineage OS for this device if I can't get mobile data and no echo with UT on it.  Oh well.
 @TotalSonic [Did you also have a hard time closing open apps in the multi-task card stack vie …], I did. I figured out if I used two fingers, one on the app and one right below I could slowly move them up and close them. Also if you get right on the bottom edge where the app window meets the background sometimes it will grab there. One
[21:30] <ubptgbot>  finger on the app did not work though.
 Yeah - I was able to get it to work after fiddling with it, but the GSI is definitely not daily driver ready at all, given that echo on calls is a critical flaw for me.
 @TotalSonic [Yeah - I was able to get it to work after fiddling with it, but the GSI is defin …], for sure, I threw lineageos back on it for now.
 Have to say there is a really nice camera on the Redmi Note 7, zoom was working on it, if a wee bit laggy.
 [Edit] Have to say there is a really nice camera on the Redmi Note 7, zoom was working on it in the UT GSI, if a wee bit laggy.
 @drym4rch0n [for sure, I threw lineageos back on it for now.], The Mi UI software they shipped this with is utter garbage.  Is everything working ok for you on Lineage?
 @TotalSonic [Have to say there is a really nice camera on the Redmi Note 7, zoom was working …], Yea Lineage is great on it. Though I don't daily the phone so can't say theres no bugs, but I didn't see anything while setting it up and testing it.
 @drym4rch0n [Yea Lineage is great on it. Though I don't daily the phone so can't say theres n …], ok, thanks.  Really wishing for a good device for running UT though.  Seems this one is not ready for prime time yet, but will see what happens for me with the installer OTA-15 version before going back to Lineage.
 @TotalSonic [ok, thanks.  Really wishing for a good device for running UT though.  Seems this …], I had the OTA-15 on first and there is no mobile data with that one. GSI works better though. It has affected others as well so I believe at the moment no one has mobile data with the installer for the Note 7
 Seems I am limited to 2G via T-mobile for the Volla Phone - I guess there just isn't any coverage via the 850MHz frequency in my area, even though T-mobile supposedly uses it (although looking more carefully, not that much).
 @TotalSonic [Seems I am limited to 2G via T-mobile for the Volla Phone - I guess there just i …], They will be turning it off completely at some point this year.
 @drym4rch0n [They will be turning it off completely at some point this year.], Yup. Definitely seems like it is going to be difficult to continue daily driving UT here at some point in the next few months in the USA until VoLTE is figured out.
 My OnePlus One gets 4G no problem via T-mobile though.
 @TotalSonic [Yup. Definitely seems like it is going to be difficult to continue daily driving …], I have an idea to get the needed information for VoLTE but I'm still collecting information and formulating a plan. One idea with 4 possible outcomes. 3 of which result in getting whats needed. I'm don't code or port but I feel I'm on to s
[21:40] <ubptgbot> omething to help get the people that do what they need.
 @drym4rch0n [I have an idea to get the needed information for VoLTE but I'm still collecting …], any efforts to move things along in the right direction are very appreciated by end users such as myself!!
 @TotalSonic [any efforts to move things along in the right direction are very appreciated by …], It's a long shot, but I'm going for it. Nothing to lose really... Just going to try to ride the wave of hatred towards Big Tech right now. It's honestly the perfect time.
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/r0JD3jie.webp
 Does UBPorts have support for DAC hardware on a phone?
 For Audio...
 @JJ_4884 [Does UBPorts have support for DAC hardware on a phone?], for connecting a DAC via USB-C??  Not sure.   I have been able to playback 24bit 96kHz flac via the UT core app Music Player though.
 @JJ_4884 [Does UBPorts have support for DAC hardware on a phone?], [Edit] for connecting a DAC via USB-C??  Not sure.   I have been able to playback 24bit 96kHz flac via the UT core app Music Player though using the phone's own DAC.
 @TotalSonic [for connecting a DAC via USB-C??  Not sure.   I have been able to playback 24bit …], Ok.. cool.
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 Hey all, it's my birthday, and I'm finally trying to get my Pinephone setup.  It came with Manjaro, and I can't get it to load Telegram.  Does UBports run it ok?  This is my main messaging app.
 @Denny_Crane69 [Hey all, it's my birthday, and I'm finally trying to get my Pinephone setup.  It …], yes, the "TELEports" native UT client for Telegram available in the Open Store works very well
 @TotalSonic [yes, the "TELEports" native UT client for Telegram available in the Open Store w …], Awesome, now I need to figure out how to load the OS. 😂  I'm not very linux saavy.
 Got the ubuntu touch phone a few years back , is the BQ aquaris one I think, is it worth persevereing with these days, no way to install new stuff. Am I missing something?
 Is there a way of installing UBports w/o using an SD card, as I don't have one available.
[23:06] <ubptgbot> <Maciej Matuszczyk> Is there any documentation on porting UBports to non-android devices?
 Has anyone here use cricket as a provider and had their account suspended using Ubuntu touch?
 @strangebrew [Got the ubuntu touch phone a few years back , is the BQ aquaris one I think, is …], You can update the BQ devices using the UBports installer - https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/installer
 @Maciej Matuszczyk [Is there any documentation on porting UBports to non-android devices?], What types of devices are you trying to port it to?
[23:07] <ubptgbot> <Maciej Matuszczyk> chromebooks
[23:08] <ubptgbot> <Maciej Matuszczyk> ARM chromebooks to be exact
[23:15] <ubptgbot> <Maciej Matuszczyk> @TotalSonic [What types of devices are you trying to port it to?], ARM chromebooks
 @WmNilrd [Has anyone here use cricket as a provider and had their account suspended using …], Cricket is ATT, and they have blacklisted pinephone I know, maybe UBports too?
 @Maciej Matuszczyk [ARM chromebooks], cool - probably check for this in the porting group - https://t.me/ubports_porting
 @Denny_Crane69 [Cricket is ATT, and they have blacklisted pinephone I know, maybe UBports too?], Make sense. Pinephone is mostly Linux distros.
 @WmNilrd [Make sense. Pinephone is mostly Linux distros.], Yes, what a bunch of BS.  Screw ATT.  I just installed my Tmo SIM in my pinephone, seems to be running smoothly.
 @WmNilrd [Has anyone here use cricket as a provider and had their account suspended using …], They might require 4G now, and no more 2/3G
[23:29] <ubptgbot> Agycbk Bcamkcamagyuajcam was added by: Agycbk Bcamkcamagyuajcam
 @Denny_Crane69 [Yes, what a bunch of BS.  Screw ATT.  I just installed my Tmo SIM in my pinephon …], Be aware that T-mobile is moving to rapidly eliminate 2G/3G calling so that we will need a VoLTE compatible device for phone calls at some point within this year (and possibly soon at that).  If you have an already activated SIM with T-
[23:33] <ubptgbot> mobile mobile data should be fine via 4G though.
 Sadly I was hoping as AT&T as an option to explore to see if I can get 4G/LTE mobile data for my Volla Phone (currently limited to 2G mobile data in my tests so far) and also because AT&T stated they are not requiring VoLTE for calling until early 2022.
 ... but seems AT&T "white listing" of selected devices only might make that option not available for UT users wanting to daily drive their UT devices
 I'm wanting to go by an AT&T store and see if they'll let me try a SIM with my Volla though.
 Wish there were more options.
[23:40] <ubptgbot> <Maciej Matuszczyk> does lomiri use iio-sensor-proxy to rotate screen?