[02:47] [new album released | DYmWUR by René Muñoz Córdova | Internet Archive] [12:15] rgh: i remember you asking how to rename midi devices? Maybe i got it wrong... But i found this today: [12:15] * sakrecoer[b] uploaded an image: image.png (132KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/basspistol.org/zJRdgWyunDwtlqpEiexWHUDN/image.png > [12:15] it wont chagen the anme in Jack, but it's a start... [12:15] * it wont chagen the name in Jack, but it's a start... [13:14] i'm getting somewhere here! Finally figured out how to get them plugins from within ardour [13:14] I have no luck with carla, for some reason it is way too instable on my setup for me to keep trying. [13:15] But one thing i keep bumping my head in, is how to make Ardour, keep a note at the begining of a midi container. [13:16] The note is 3.1.0, and the container at 2.1.0 of the grid. Now if i drag the container to start at 3.1.0, the first note disapears... [13:17] even if i draw the note with pen snapped , it sounds and poof disappears... [13:17] if i unrole the container, it's there... [13:19] hm... why is it that things sometimes start working only when i give up? 🤣 [13:21] no idea what i did, but now it works as i expect it... [13:21] i can't believe i'm this ->.<- close to have a finished track right now \o/ [14:24] * sakrecoer[b] uploaded an audio file: dingdingworld_r1_session_2021-01-30_1523.mp3 (2572KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/basspistol.org/nZiharVfIuYdwyhDnuYKmxNZ/dingdingworld_r1_session_2021-01-30_1523.mp3 > [14:24] absoulte shite. But i'm so happy :') [14:25] the sound is crap... but that's me not the software. The whole exercise was to get that midi to obey! including CC and stuff :') [14:25] next stop: take over the galaxy! [14:28] i remember a decade ago i was like "made with 100% hardware" jajajaja [14:28] today i'm like "made with 100% software" 🤣 [15:09] Hey since ubuntu studio is using jack as default audio (right?) how is obs-studio audio monitor working on ubuntu studio? (without pulse audio) [15:37] marcnnn: ubuntustudio uses pulse as the front end to jack for desktop audio. [15:43] sakrecoer[b]: that is a known bug. Paul has been working on a fix for over a year as it means rewriting how Ardour deals with time. This will be the main "feature" for Ardour 7 [15:43] OvenWerks: thanks for the hint so its not solving the pulse related issuers with latency:( it would be nice to integrate https://github.com/thestk/rtaudio or jack or alsa direct to obs audio monitor if someone is interested to join the idea marcnnn@gmail.com [15:43] https://github.com/bondagit/aes67-linux-daemon do you have support for aes67 in Ubuntu studio? [15:43] obs can use jack audio directly. [15:44] only as source [15:44] or am i wrong? [15:44] Ah yes that is true [15:45] most of the latency in any streaming is due to video latency anyway. The audio has to be delayed to suit [15:45] with video call in obs web view it would be great to do audio mixing in a other programm or hardware [15:45] it takes time to compress the video [15:47] aes67 hardware is very expensive. more so than avb or dante hw [15:47] its not about the latency of the stream its about the latency of people talking with each other over the internet [15:47] dante is aes67 conform [15:48] sort of. [15:48] i tried it yesterday it works with very low latency [15:48] aes67 can yes [15:50] ubs alsa -> aes67 -> netzwork -> neutrik dante without recognizable latency [15:50] the target latency is 1ms 48 samples [15:51] aha! thanks OvenWeks! i wonder what the work around is. there seems to be certain conditions under which it doesn't happen [15:52] sakrecoer[b]: move your first note just slighytly [15:52] dante said 2,1 ms or so [15:53] marcnnn: the spec for the stream is 1ms, but buffering is needed for stability [15:54] 2.1 ms is very good [15:55] do note that this is in a closed network with good switches end to end, not internet [15:55] and not (even worse) wireless [15:56] most streaming protocols are 500ms (mp3, ogg) just to get it out of the box. OPUS being the exception at 5ms [15:57] of cource 3 switches gigabit ethernet [15:58] dante, aes67 and avb do not encode, using raw pcm [16:00] yes [16:00] avb switches can have up to 7 in a row and do 7us [16:02] but by the time you dump it into a computer it will be at least 1ms. Just running jack and pulse at 1ms uses 25% dsp on my system [16:03] 10 or 20 ms would be fine for me but pulse is much more often ? [16:03] marcnnn: that last line didnt make sense to me [16:04] 20ms as a bass player makes me loose time [16:04] 10 is fine [16:04] even 30ms is ok for some keyboard stuff [16:05] webrtc -> obs -> some audio api -> alsa aes67 -> audio mixer [16:05] thats the hole plan of mine [16:06] with video? [16:06] if the audio api adds > 100 ms like pulse its a problem [16:06] webrtc is around 500ms with video [16:06] if pulse uses jack as it's device, pulse is locked to jack's latency [16:07] okay thats interessting [16:07] i should try that than thanks [16:07] in Studio, pulse has the alsa modules removed [16:08] while jack is running, when jack is stopped the alsa modiles are reloaded [16:09] if pulse can see any alsa device while bridged to jack, it will be unstable, bbut if jack is the only device pulse has, it is quite stable. [16:10] stable as is run as 1.6ms latency for a week without xruns [16:12] there are some applications that use pulse that can't handle that. Skype likes 30ish ms (jack at 64/2 seems to work) [16:12] firefox has not been a problem though [16:15] marcnnn: do you have a mixer that takes aes67? [16:16] okay i will try obs that soon and report:D i have not managed to get the AES67 alsa device in to Jack jet but that should work somehow... [16:17] ya I have heard that [16:17] OvenWerks: yes x32 with dante multiple once [16:17] ah, ok [16:19] do you know how to get the right setting for jack with https://github.com/bondagit/aes67-linux-daemon ? [16:21] no I do not. It has something to do with the device type the driver sets it up as. it does not show up in alsa as hardware [16:22] I do not remember the exact details though