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 lxqt 0.16 is coming?
[16:06] <kc2bez[m]> Raman Sarda: was working on getting it started, build tools has migrated.
[16:09] <kc2bez[m]> We probably need to move a little faster to answer your question @RikMills 
 fair enough. I just noticed the new lxqt-archiver source in proposed build depends on libfm-qt-dev 0.16
 that is all
[16:14] <kc2bez[m]> Oooh, Debian must have got that through new. Last I knew they were still working on it but I haven't checked on the progress recently.
 They must have. It is sitting there being sad with a FTBFS
 which suggests debian did not version their build depends well
[16:18] <kc2bez[m]> Yup, I see that now. Thanks for the info. 
[16:28] <theloudspeaker> I was pinged?
[16:29] <kc2bez[m]> I was just mentioning that you had started on merging things from Debian.
[16:30] <theloudspeaker> Yup. The 2nd package needs a bit more effort. I think the build failed even after merging. Will have a look soon.
[16:31] <kc2bez[m]> Thanks for working on it Raman Sarda 
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[17:21] <RikMills> ^^ one less to worry about
[17:22] <RikMills> as kubuntu seeds that
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[17:38] <kc2bez[m]> Thanks @RikMills
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[20:18] <theloudspeaker> oh wait.
[20:18] <theloudspeaker> liblxqt did build fine
[20:18] <theloudspeaker> then where was the error I saw last time?
[20:20] <theloudspeaker> probably something on my container. I will push it to phab. someone please cross check once. 
[20:20] <kc2bez[m]> Sounds like a plan.
[20:25] <theloudspeaker> https://phab.lubuntu.me/D105
[20:25] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Review] Merge form upstream.: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D105
[20:25] <theloudspeaker> cc: kc2bez wxl 
[20:25]  * theloudspeaker goes to fairyland 
[21:15] <theloudspeaker> Ah wrong branch! 🤦🏻‍♂️
[21:15] <kc2bez[m]> Nice catch I missed that.
[21:17] <theloudspeaker> Hence 2 reviewers. :)
[21:22] <theloudspeaker> I will fix this tomorrow morning. Time for bed now.
[21:23] <kc2bez[m]> Ok, I am going to flip it to needs changes and note the branch issue.
[21:24] <kc2bez[m]> oh nvm, wxl beat me to it
[21:24] <theloudspeaker> Good night! :)
[21:24] <wxl> i suspect all of the repos have not had hirsute set to the default branch
[21:25] <wxl> kc2bez[m]: maybe you and i should go through the whole new release list and make sure we didn't miss anything
[21:25] <theloudspeaker> <wxl "i suspect all of the repos have "> tsimonq2 🌝
[21:25] <wxl> i mean i didn't even DO anything
[21:26] <kc2bez[m]> There is a script but I don't know what that will do now that we have set up some of the repos with hirsute.
[21:26] <wxl> let's just do it manually
[21:26] <wxl> we can split the work
[21:26] <kc2bez[m]> I don't know where that needs to run either.
[21:26] <kc2bez[m]> ok
[21:27] <wxl> one of us can start on one end of the list and the other on the other end
[21:27] <wxl> so let's do the default branches first
[21:30] <wxl> ok i'm starting at the bottom of the repos
[21:32] <wxl> if it has only master i guess i'm not going to worry
[21:32] <wxl> lxqt-l10n is dead, right?
[21:33] <kc2bez[m]> yes, and yes
[21:35] <wxl> i haven't said so but i'll let you know where i'm at
[21:35] <wxl> qtplugin done
[21:35] <kc2bez[m]> ok
[21:35] <RyuKurisu[m]> <wxl ""natural scrolling" is a classic"> About the "natural scrolling" thing; after years on smart phones it feels more 'natural' to have the scrolling reversed, at least with 2 finger scrolling.  Even edge scrolling feels 'natural'/normal to me.
[21:35] <wxl> about
[21:36] <wxl> config
[21:36] <kc2bez[m]> Qterminal is next for me
[21:36] <wxl> image
[21:36] <wxl> globalkeys
[21:37] <wxl> notification
[21:37] <kc2bez[m]> sddm
[21:37] <wxl> openssh-askpass
[21:37] <wxl> policykit
[21:38] <wxl> sudo
[21:38] <wxl> pcmanfm
[21:38] <kc2bez[m]> liblxqtxdg
[21:38] <wxl> panel
[21:39] <wxl> runner
[21:39] <wxl> obconf
 wxl: you okay there?
 :P
[21:39] <wxl> we're coordinating
[21:39] <wxl> screengrab
 ah
[21:40] <kc2bez[m]> hmm notifier doesn't have hirsute
[21:40] <wxl> qps
[21:40] <kc2bez[m]> qtermwidget
[21:41] <kc2bez[m]> archiver
[21:42] <wxl> power
[21:42] <kc2bez[m]> liblxqt
[21:42] <wxl> nm-tray
[21:42] <wxl> meta
[21:42] <kc2bez[m]> themes
[21:43] <wxl> libfm
[21:43] <wxl> themes
[21:44] <wxl> themes is done
[21:44] <wxl> oddd
[21:44] <kc2bez[m]> yeah I said that ;)
[21:44] <wxl> i'm wondering if we don't need to do something special with seed so i'm skipping that
[21:44] <wxl> you did?
[21:45] <kc2bez[m]> maybe there was a delay but yeah
[21:45] <wxl> oh nevermind on seed that's good
[21:45] <kc2bez[m]> oh I did seed
[21:45] <kc2bez[m]> we met
[21:45] <wxl> that explains it XD
[21:45] <wxl> ok cool
[21:45] <wxl> that's done
[21:45] <wxl> what other stuff do we need to worry about?
[21:46] <kc2bez[m]> Oh jeez, I dunno
[21:46] <wxl> https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/new-release/
[21:46] <wxl> so i think we should pay attention to the last section from 4 down
[21:47] <kc2bez[m]> GH is on the list but I don't have access to that.
[21:47] <wxl> eh meta actually doesn't have a branch
[21:47] <wxl> so that needs an upload
[21:47] <wxl> i'll work on github
[21:47] <wxl> i think i have access
[21:47] <kc2bez[m]> I hope so :D
[21:48] <wxl> i do
[21:48] <wxl> shall i add you?
[21:48] <kc2bez[m]> yes please
[21:50] <wxl> done
[21:50] <wxl> i've confirmed lp seeds is defaulting to hirsute
[21:52] <wxl> looks like i have to do this all over again with github sigh
[21:58] <wxl> cala settings looks like it needs a proper branch
[21:59] <kc2bez[m]> yeah, it does. I can poke at it on the next upload.
[21:59] <wxl> put it on your todo :/
[21:59] <kc2bez[m]> will do
[22:12] <wxl> trojita needs a branch
[22:13] <kc2bez[m]> trojita needs some help
[22:13] <wxl> so meta and trojita and cala settings
[22:13] <wxl> what else does it need?
[22:13] <kc2bez[m]> an update
[22:14] <kc2bez[m]> But they claim no new releases are coming
[22:14] <wxl> oh really???
[22:14] <kc2bez[m]> we need to do a git snapshot I guess
[22:15] <kc2bez[m]> Yeah, their advice was to just grab master
[22:15] <wxl> we've got git master in ci, no?
[22:15] <kc2bez[m]> I don't think we have trojita in ci, i can add it back though
[22:15] <wxl> it just needs some extensive testing then. meanwhile, i think we should maybe do a no-change upload
[22:15] <kc2bez[m]> we dropped it because it kept failing
[22:15] <wxl> crap
[22:16] <kc2bez[m]> I think it might have been only on one arch
[22:16] <kc2bez[m]> I can't remember
[22:16] <wxl> ok let's add it back and investigate that
[22:16] <wxl> maybe we should make a series of tasks for all this
[22:16] <kc2bez[m]> ok
[22:16] <wxl> or maybe one for trojita and one for all the others
[22:17] <kc2bez[m]> Sounds good, I will make one for Trojita
[22:17] <wxl> it does look like there was only one ocmmit in 2019, two in 2020, and 3 in jan
[22:17] <wxl> the last one jan did was in 2018
[22:17] <wxl> which is super bizarre
[22:17] <wxl> oh sorry those are pending
[22:18] <wxl> so we haven't had anything this year
[22:18] <wxl> 11 commits in 2020
[22:18] <wxl> 6 from jan
[22:18] <wxl> so that's not too shorcking
[22:18] <wxl> shocking sorry
[22:19] <kc2bez[m]> I don't know what they are but it might help someone.
[22:19] <wxl> this is interesting https://gerrit.vesnicky.cesnet.cz/r/#/q/status:merged+project:trojita+branch:master+topic:calendar
[22:20] <wxl> ew gerrit sucks
[22:21] <kc2bez[m]> yeah, gross
[22:21] <wxl> this is probably more telling https://invent.kde.org/pim/trojita/-/commits/master/
[22:22] <RikMills> 'it's dead, Jim'
[22:22] <kc2bez[m]> XD
[22:22] <wxl> it's not very live but to be fair it never really was (it was basically jan's baby)
[22:23] <wxl> i assume ci is up to date for hirsute given we have hirsute building there
[22:24] <kc2bez[m]> yes, ci is good to go. Simon did that.
[22:24] <wxl> what is this thing in the new release tooling about lintian and devscripts?
[22:25] <kc2bez[m]> I guess something Simon normally does, I don't know that it relates to Lubuntu specifically.
[22:27] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T193: Add Trojita back to ci ] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T193
[22:28] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T193: Add Trojita back to ci ] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T193#4177
[22:29] <wxl> i'm actually going to change priority on this since we need to ship it with hrisute
[22:29] <kc2bez[m]> ok, I took a stab
[22:29] <wxl>  all good
[22:32] <wxl> here i think is the lintian thing https://salsa.debian.org/lintian/lintian/-/blob/master/vendors/ubuntu/main/data/changes-file/known-dists
[22:32] <wxl> i don't know why that needs to be added to our tooling as it should be part of what ubuntu does as a whole
[22:32] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T194: Fixup branches on cala-settings] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T194
[22:33] <kc2bez[m]> 🤷‍♂️ Simon did it so...
[22:33] <kc2bez[m]> There is a task for cala settings too.
[22:34] <wxl> just need meta now right?
[22:35] <kc2bez[m]> oh, jeez phab doesn't seem to like  the no branch thing.
[22:36] <wxl> yeah it needs an upload and i'm sure it will be fine
[22:38] <wxl> omg this devscripts thing is hilarious. referencing a line without referencing context is Not Good™. that Makefile has massively changed over time
[22:38] <wxl> i think i'm going to have to blame that particular line in our tooling readme and try to sync times
[22:38] <wxl> jee
[22:38] <wxl> z
[22:40] <wxl> ugh and that doesn't seem right either because it's for creating the ltnu command
[22:42] <wxl> oh wait that's the wrong commit
[22:42] <wxl> and then if i look at that, he authored it nov 2018 but pushed it mar 2019
[22:43] <kc2bez[m]> That's almost 2 years ago
[22:45] <wxl> i think this is what he was referring to https://salsa.debian.org/debian/devscripts/-/blob/0204b15c6adfc6c1f93aeb41117d56582782d672/scripts/Makefile#L47
[22:46] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T195: Add hirsute branch for Meta repository] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T195
[22:47] <kc2bez[m]> Ok, well I don't see anything to change there.
[22:48] <wxl> heh it's on 71 now https://salsa.debian.org/debian/devscripts/-/blob/master/scripts/Makefile#L71
[22:48] <wxl> i'll change the tooling README to clarify all this
[22:49] <kc2bez[m]> Thank you.
 stupid question
 did one of you make the phab/arc tutorial yet
 'cause... ERR:REQUIRED for me
 for reasons
[22:49] <kc2bez[m]> nope
[22:49] <wxl> sigh i really need to get my stupid container going again
[22:49] <kc2bez[m]> not yet
[22:50] <wxl> no but my guess is YOU don't need it thomas
 still better to know so when people say phab is being fubar with perms I can dig ;)
[22:50] <wxl> you can see packaging in the context of phab here https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/packaging/packagingtutorial/
[22:51] <wxl> all of those `arc` lines are arcanist, i.e. phab interface to (in our case) git
[22:51] <wxl> `arc diff` creates a "differential revision" or a "pull request" in github parlance or "merge request" in launchpad's
[22:53] <kc2bez[m]> My thoughts were a little more "new to contributing code" with rHELLOWORLD so folks could give it a try. I haven't followed with anything written yet.
[22:53] <wxl> `arc land` is something a dev would do (i.e. you should be able to) which actually merges that pull request (which is what i've opted to refer to it in the sidebar) 
[22:53] <wxl> everything else there is either git stuff or debian packaging stuff i'm sure you already understand
[23:04] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rNEWRELd800433e624a: add TODO to automate default branch change in GitHub] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rNEWRELd800433e624a
[23:04] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rNEWREL8587238c6cb8: clarify details on lintian/devscripts changes] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rNEWREL8587238c6cb8
[23:11] <wxl> ok meta is done
[23:11] <wxl> err new release tooling XD
[23:17] <kc2bez[m]> ok, cool