| JanC | maybe they are using some dkms driver? | 02:32 |
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| JanC | oh, hand-built | 02:39 |
| JanC | probably? | 02:40 |
| JanC | I'd say it's an Ubuntu issue that the hardware doesn't work by default... :) | 02:45 |
| JanC | but the specific bugs in a third party driver should be reported to its developer, of course | 02:45 |
| lotuspsychje | good morning | 02:58 |
| JanC | good night :P | 03:06 |
| lotuspsychje | hey JanC | 03:09 |
| ducasse | good morning | 06:47 |
| pafymyc | hi! for historic understanding of the evolution along the years, does "service apache restart2" uses upstart under the hood with 14.04, but the same command uses systemd for 15.04+? | 09:22 |
| tomreyn | pafymyc: do you mean "service apache2 restart"? | 09:32 |
| tomreyn | "service" is a wrapper script, allowing you to manage the state of services (to a degree) without having to know the init system being used. | 09:34 |
| tomreyn | on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, the default init system was upstart, on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS it is systemd (and systemd may have been introduced as a default with 15.04) | 09:35 |
| pafymyc | thanks tomreyn ! | 09:56 |
| tomreyn | you're welcome | 09:56 |
| lotuspsychje | hehe out of the old box | 10:50 |
| mendi | is core18 only for snaps or does it do something else? | 13:30 |
| lotuspsychje | mendi: a bit more info here; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuCore/Development | 13:30 |
| lotuspsychje | mendi: as oerheks explained, some snaps are part of the system, will influence/break your system if you purge | 13:32 |
| tomreyn | mendi: If you're asking about Ubuntu Core, which is really a very different system to Ubuntu Desktop and Ubuntu Server (at least so far), then yes, this supports only snaps. And I think there's only commercial support available for Ubuntu Core. | 13:34 |
| mendi | thank you, i was thinking of going multi-user.target, removing snap then installing gnome, I don't get why they would make gnome into a snap though | 13:35 |
| mendi | oh i see that's not the actual gnome | 13:38 |
| mendi | thanks guys | 13:38 |
| lotuspsychje | mendi: df -h to see all your snap /loops | 13:38 |
| lotuspsychje | mendi: you can also install stacer on 20.04 and experiment with snapd services if you like | 13:41 |
| lotuspsychje | leave the essential services/packages alone, and tweak the system the way you like | 13:42 |
| mendi | yeah I think I will just leave snap as it is and just install programs using apt thank you | 13:43 |
| lotuspsychje | good idea | 13:43 |
| akem | Heya ,] | 13:47 |
| lotuspsychje | hey akem | 13:48 |
| akem | Whats up lotuspsychje ? | 13:48 |
| lotuspsychje | sunday chillings | 13:48 |
| akem | Same here. | 13:49 |
| lotuspsychje | great | 13:50 |
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