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[13:46] <kc2bez[m]> Looks like there will be a respin for 20.04.2
[13:52] <theloudspeaker> ah now I get it where I was facing issues:
[13:52] <theloudspeaker>  uscan die: OpenPGP signature did not verify. at /usr/share/perl5/Devscripts/Uscan/Output.pm line 60.
[13:52] <theloudspeaker> I wasn't hallucinating.
[14:00] <theloudspeaker> but I think the diff already got updated.
[14:00] <theloudspeaker> can you check wxl kc2bez ?
[14:00] <theloudspeaker> also, how do I fix this? I get this on ````uscan --download-current-version``` 
[14:07] <kc2bez[m]> You have the right branch now. I am not sure why the signing key doesn't match.
[14:07] <RikMills> theloudspeaker: you merged the signing key debian have? if so, perhaps that is now wrong and you should have kept the original from the lubuntu package?
[14:07] <theloudspeaker> ahhh!
[14:07]  * RikMills checks
[14:07] <theloudspeaker> if they key is updated in debian so we should update it in ubuntu side too right?
[14:08] <RikMills> not if its the wrong key!
[14:08] <theloudspeaker> how can it be wrong? so debian updated the wrong key then?
[14:09] <kc2bez[m]> no debian signed with that key
[14:10] <theloudspeaker> okayy. So I will go revert the key.
[14:10] <RikMills> theloudspeaker: debian have not update the key they have for 4 years!
[14:10] <RikMills> they either don't care, or don't bother verifying when they build a source
[14:11]  * RikMills slaps debian lxqt
[14:12] <kc2bez[m]> They've got some new folks.
[14:15] <theloudspeaker> so what do we do now?
[14:15] <theloudspeaker> I revert it to the one debian uses? RikMills ?
[14:15] <RikMills> the one debian uses is wrong
[14:16] <theloudspeaker> 🙃
[14:16] <theloudspeaker> So how do we correct their mistake then?
[14:16] <kc2bez[m]> Don't merge that
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[14:17] <RikMills> yes, keep the key include in the 0.15 ubuntu package
[14:17] <RikMills> *included
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[14:17] <kc2bez[m]> File a pr in debian
[14:17] <theloudspeaker> yeah. now merging the one we have in ubuntu side
[14:17] <kc2bez[m]> 🤷‍♂️
[14:21] <theloudspeaker> this reminds me I think I will have to change it for this too then: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLXQTBUILDTOOLSPACKAGING2e714bd11795f45bc497207da24081b30b4d98c4#change-BsSTBULvwM1M
[14:22] <theloudspeaker> here I included the old key from debian.
[14:22] <theloudspeaker> 🤦
[14:24] <kc2bez[m]> from ci W: lxqt-build-tools source: orig-tarball-missing-upstream-signature
[14:25] <kc2bez[m]> on lintian run ^
[14:25] <theloudspeaker> yup. so I need to update that. 
[14:27]  * theloudspeaker goes to debian channels to point this out.
[14:29] <theloudspeaker> So D105 looks fine now. I will merge it then? kc2bez RikMills ?
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[14:32] <theloudspeaker> <theloudspeaker "this reminds me I think I will h"> no no. here I am right. Here I even see the signing key updated in debian changelog.
[14:33] <theloudspeaker> so build tools is fine. liblxqt should also be fine now.
[14:33] <theloudspeaker> on to next one.
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[18:51] <The_LoudSpeaker>  kc2bez[m]: "To conform with the Ubuntu standard use metadata::trusted instead of metadata::trust. This patch must be applied after any upstream version changes since they refuse to conform."
[18:51] <The_LoudSpeaker> what's dis about?
[18:51] <The_LoudSpeaker> upstream breaking more stuff? 
[18:51] <The_LoudSpeaker> XD
[18:52] <kc2bez[m]> More or less, that is why we patched it.
[18:53] <kc2bez[m]> It directly relates to the desktop installer icon. 
[18:54] <kc2bez[m]> But it conforms with the platform expectation.
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[18:55] <The_LoudSpeaker> okayy. I see.
[18:55] <The_LoudSpeaker> nothing much on libfm-qt tho. 
[18:56] <The_LoudSpeaker> someone fix the goddam mergeomatic! cries on transation changes. which are legit one liners. XD
[19:28] <The_LoudSpeaker> E: libfm-qt7: symbols-file-contains-current-version-with-debian-revision on symbol _ZN2Fm10DirListJob10filesFoundERNS_12FileInfoListE@Base and 1618 others
[19:28] <The_LoudSpeaker> I looked this up. BUt didn't understand.
[19:28] <The_LoudSpeaker> what is it about?
[19:28] <wxl> oh god ubuntu is working on a new desktop installer
[19:29] <wxl> oh boy i forgot all the symnols crap
[19:29] <wxl> ^ @RikMills ?
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[19:31] <kc2bez[m]> The build logs should give clues for symbols
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[19:31] <kc2bez[m]> also look at unstable/ci 
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[19:31] <kc2bez[m]> I think apt-ghetto may have updated them.
[19:32] <kc2bez[m]> I have to be afk for a while.
[19:33] <wxl> what's the debian version here?
[19:34] <wxl> 0.16.0-3
[19:35] <wxl> which i don't understand because it supplies libfm-qt*8*
[19:35] <wxl> so that's one thing
[19:36] <wxl> a quick glance yields no surprises
[19:37] <wxl> look here https://salsa.debian.org/lxqt-team/libfm-qt/-/blob/debian/0.16.0-3/debian/libfm-qt8.symbols
[19:37] <wxl> we've got ` _ZN2Fm10DirListJob10filesFoundERNS_12FileInfoListE@Base 0.16.0`
[19:38] <wxl> if that last bit had the debian patch version (in this case `-3` appended to the version at the end, THAT would be what causes this problem
[19:38] <wxl> everything here looks normal
[19:38] <wxl> maybe a wrong branch issue? i don't know
[19:39] <tsimonq2> The ones with the Debian revisions are automatically imported 
[19:40] <wxl> you mean automatically generated? but they're also the problem
[19:40] <wxl> https://lintian.debian.org/tags/symbols-file-contains-current-version-with-debian-revision.html
[19:41] <wxl> This problem normally means that the symbols were added automatically by dpkg-gensymbols. dpkg-gensymbols uses the full version number for the dependency associated to any new symbol that it detects. The maintainer must update the debian/<package>.symbols file by adding the new symbols with the corresponding upstream version.
[19:41] <tsimonq2> Correct 
[19:41] <tsimonq2> If that happens in a CI build, it means the source has changed and symbols need to be updated 
[19:42] <wxl> right, though this is off of raman doing merges so 
[19:42] <wxl> given he mentioned libfm-qt7 i think he may be working on the wrong thing
[19:42] <wxl> !info src:libfm-qt
[19:43] <wxl> oh maybe not
[19:43] <wxl> if he's working on the one we already have XD
[19:43] <wxl> 0.16 is definitely qt8
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[19:45] <The_LoudSpeaker> i am on the correct branch and repo. -.-
[19:46] <wxl> well SOMETHING is weird because you can't be merging 0.16
[19:46] <The_LoudSpeaker> didn't touch a thing except dch
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[19:47] <The_LoudSpeaker> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qFBNZG9tVk/
[19:47] <The_LoudSpeaker> here's the changelog
[19:47] <The_LoudSpeaker> i mean d/changelog
[19:47] <wxl> weird
[19:48] <wxl> what about `grep Package debian/control`
[19:50] <The_LoudSpeaker> haven't touched that too. but wait a sec building again will paste logs and then have a look at it.
[19:51] <The_LoudSpeaker> logs: http://sprunge.us/o0qHrH
[19:51] <The_LoudSpeaker> I do see a lot of stuff in there. 
[19:52] <The_LoudSpeaker> but all of it above my head. would be nice if someone were to cast some light on it.
[19:52] <wxl> just do the grep and also could you paste that somewhere that doesn't suck?
[19:53] <The_LoudSpeaker> sprunge.it can take output of long processes using pipe. pastebinit times out. XD
[19:53] <wxl> it also fails on https so it sucks
[19:53] <The_LoudSpeaker> in debian control the package name is libfm-qt7
[19:53] <wxl> see and that's not right
[19:53] <wxl> 0.16 is qt8
[19:53] <wxl> look upstream
[19:54] <The_LoudSpeaker> theloudspeaker@hippo-dev:~/fm-qt/phab/libfm-qt$ grep Package debian/control 
[19:54] <The_LoudSpeaker> Package: libfm-qt7
[19:54] <The_LoudSpeaker> Package: libfm-qt-dev
[19:54] <The_LoudSpeaker> Package: libfm-qt-l10n
[19:54] <The_LoudSpeaker> theloudspeaker@hippo-dev:~/fm-qt/phab/libfm-qt$ 
[19:54] <The_LoudSpeaker> yeah one sec.
[19:54] <wxl> i mean our current version in phab is qt7
[19:54] <wxl> but what we need is what's in debian, which is qt8
[19:55] <The_LoudSpeaker> oooooh!!! my bad
[19:55] <The_LoudSpeaker> merge also marked control file
[19:55] <The_LoudSpeaker> which I failed to notice
[19:55] <The_LoudSpeaker> and hence didn't touch
[19:55] <The_LoudSpeaker> should have.
[19:55]  * wxl hands The_LoudSpeaker the wet fish so he can slap himself with it
[19:56] <The_LoudSpeaker> Eww. fish.
[19:56] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_qterminal FAILURE: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_qterminal/412/
[19:56] <The_LoudSpeaker> I'd rather take a boot.
[19:57] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_qterminal FAILURE: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_qterminal/412/
[19:57] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_qtermwidget FAILURE: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_qtermwidget/329/
[19:57] <wxl> sorry, it's the price you have to pay
[19:57] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] focal_stable_sddm FAILURE: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/focal_stable_sddm/618/
[19:57] <The_LoudSpeaker> what if I refuse to pay? :P
 we have an air cannon here loaded with sardines I can fire at you if you wish.
[19:57] <wxl> ^
 loaded up with*
 you'll end up covered in fish paste though when they hit you :P
[19:59] <The_LoudSpeaker> Eww. 
[19:59] <The_LoudSpeaker> I will put up a trampoline here. bounce back all of that on you.
 *points at the twelve other air cannons aimed at you from other vectors* ... doubt you can stop them all :P
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[20:11] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] focal_stable_obconf-qt just succeeded after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/focal_stable_obconf-qt/577/
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[20:15] <The_LoudSpeaker> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7MyC8sw8cg/
[20:15] <The_LoudSpeaker> moar errors.
[20:15] <The_LoudSpeaker> also, wxl sidequest: Approve D105 ploxx.
[20:16] <The_LoudSpeaker> aprrove and commit please. 
[20:16] <The_LoudSpeaker> k. Thanks bye. :)
[20:17]  * The_LoudSpeaker goes to bed.
 > exists but is not installed anywhere
 that sounds like a problem with your install files
 /me looks at scrollback
 /me decides he has had more wine than is compatible with the scrollback
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[21:19] <wxl> The_LoudSpeaker: you need to read your notifications re D105
[21:22] <RyuKurisu[m]> I just read this blog post on OMG!UBUNTU!: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/02/ubuntu-is-working-on-a-brand-new-installer
[21:23] <wxl> The_LoudSpeaker: and @teward001 is correct about your libfm-qt errors. Your install files need help. for example in debian libfm-qt8.install has `usr/lib/*/*.so.*` which would take care of the first error. if you're trying to somehow build upon what is in phab rather than essentially making wee mods to what's in debian, that's probably the source of your issues.
[21:23] <wxl> The_LoudSpeaker: again look here https://salsa.debian.org/lxqt-team/libfm-qt/-/tree/debian/0.16.0-3/debian
[21:23] <wxl> RyuKurisu[m]: yeah i mentioned that early, albeit from the post on the ubuntu discourse
[21:25] <wxl> i'm sure it will solve almost none of the problems ubiquity has
[21:26] <RyuKurisu[m]> I'm not enough into the material to know what the problems are of ubiquity
[21:33] <wxl> many
[21:34] <wxl> including the utter mess of organization. the code is about as easy to read as james joyce
[21:39] <wxl> oh dang having hit the planet our blog on hwe is now in news
 links
 i wanna see the news xD
[21:42] <wxl> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue668#Focal_and_5.8_HWE_kernel_woes
[22:28] <wxl[m]> Someone have a 20.10 handy? I'm  afk. Does `modinfo zr36067` produce any results? It did in my old 18.04. 
 i have a 20.10 on my RPi 400, but i could easily respin my 20.10 VM
 give me a minute
[22:31] <kc2bez[m]> modinfo: ERROR: Module zr36067 not found.
[22:34] <kc2bez[m]> same on 21.04
[22:39] <teward> yep same on here
[22:40] <teward> wxl[m]: is it a formerly available driver that's gone now or...?
[22:43] <wxl[m]> Weird. Wonder if it got dropped
[22:46] <wxl[m]> That's what I'm thinking
[23:32] <guiverc> wxl[m], you didn't want it in UWN?  (5.8)
[23:33] <wxl> guiverc: oh no, i don't mind, but it kind of caused a bit of a row (mostly because it looks bad but whatever)
[23:36] <kc2bez[m]> everyone is watching the flutter installer now anyway. 
[23:36] <guiverc> yeah I heard "avoid negative" once during discussion on its inclusion.. but I felt it was good & appropriate anyway
[23:36] <wxl> er there is no flutter installer, right? flutter's just a toolkit
[23:37] <wxl> guiverc: i tried to make it *really* clear that it was not meant to be negative
[23:38] <kc2bez[m]> Yeah, it was a fine thing to include guiverc. wxl you are correct. it is an installer using the flutter toolkit. 
[23:38] <wxl> meaning it's specific to ubuntu
[23:39] <wxl> meaning no one will use it
[23:39] <kc2bez[m]> Just Ubuntu. 
[23:39] <wxl> yup
[23:39] <wxl> now's the time to get the other flavors on the calamares train
[23:39] <guiverc> wxl, that was understood.. if it wasn't clear (not negative) it would not have been included