[00:02] abesab: See too: ' apt depends ubuntu-gnome-desktop ' . [00:30] <|izzie> hello all... ubuntu 20.04 doesn't recognize my printer. Can someone help, please [00:33] abesab: Yes, you are right on both accounts, the latter of which is also why the 'gnome' variant of it at the time was made a metapackage that depends on the 'ubuntu' one - the dedicated Gnome flavor of Ubuntu was ceased then. So I'd just install 'ubuntu-desktop' now and be done. [00:38] I have a webcam that after an extended period of time, sometimes about 24 hours but it varies, the webcam becomes unavailable to webrtc clients and to things like "cheese" for testing. After a restart it works OK. Is there a way to look into why the device is not found after a certain period of time? Are all webcams of a certain character devices handled by a certain tool or kernel driver to start looking? [00:45] it shows up in `lsusb` whether or not it's usable or not === PowerTower_121 is now known as PowerTower_120 [01:20] has anyone worked with refined or clover boot managers to get nvme support on older devices? [01:23] you basically just add nvme drivers to the bootloader so you can boot from nvme drive, but why cant you add that to ubuntu? [01:24] or is it because since the bios doesnt support it you need to use the bootloader w/nvme support to jump start the ubuntu boot? [01:46] does 20.10 have a mini iso? [01:53] does ubuntu (or lubuntu) typically do automount of USB devices? I'm talking mounting it all by itself without me touching the desktop, but after having inserted the stick/drive [01:53] wr: So far i have found: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/20.10/ - https://xubuntu.org/news/introducing-xubuntu-core/ :D should I keep looking for you ? [01:53] cause i see the partitions with "mount", but i didnt explicitly do anything. And they seem to have a mountpoint under /media/ [01:56] sybariten: Yes - see: ' man gvfs-mount ' . [01:57] In RH I can use podman generate systemd to generate a file that I can run through systemd, is there something similar under ubuntu with docker? [01:57] Bashing-om: ah. OK, hm. thanks. Actually i would like to unmount everything thats automounted then... [01:58] sybariten: Never done it - but I bet there is a udev rule that will do that. [01:59] aha aha [02:00] Bashing-om, those links above 1GB [02:01] Bashing-om: they are mounted under /media/lubuntu/ and i'm guessing that the "lubuntu" there is a user and not an OS name? Cause i also have a user with that name. It was what i entered the desktop with, but i'm loggin in over ssh with another user now. And that user doesnt seem to easily access the things that were automounted then [02:04] sybariten: Security - in that no other can access another's files. You can change those ownerships however. === zbenjamin is now known as Guest93333 === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [02:24] Bashing-om: yeah i think i'll just manually umount a list of devices (partitions) that i get through some hack of a script [02:25] or is there a log of what was automounted, that i can look directly at? programmatically [02:35] sybariten: Maybe look in /var/log/auth.log.1 ? [02:43] Bashing-om: hmmm good suggestion but i think i only see the mount of the original usb disk i booted from [02:44] not disks i have connected afterwards [02:45] sybariten: grep the syslog ? === BrianG61UK is now known as BrianG61UK_ === de-facto_ is now known as de-facto [02:58] Bashing-om: yep, there is some hint there, for sure. thanks. Interestingly enough, what i can see by looking for "mounts" of *sd* , is only the unmounts. However, these devices has also been mounted again after that, but then i think i only see references to the mount points. If you understand. [02:59] like this. seems to be using the "Started Clean" for a mounting process, because this is exactly at the time it was inserted i think. Feb 1 01:02:22 lubuntu systemd[1]: Started Clean the /media/lubuntu/F6E6-8BFF mount point. [02:59] F6E6blabla is then the name of the drive/mountpoint [03:02] sybariten: the UUID F6E6-8BFF is indicative of a Windows file system - might get a bit more complex to mess about with under a linux system. [03:03] well no, its... fine... the aim here is only to find the device names (for instance /dev/sdf1) of things that have been automounted, and unmount them [03:06] i'll ask in #linux too and then ill hit the sack. Thanks for now! === denningsrogue2 is now known as denningsrogue [03:41] Why does ubuntu change a netplan yaml when I clone a disk ? [03:42] Because UUID changed or so ? [03:42] I have seen that more often and such change is weird to me [03:46] aha I see [03:46] the clone is a snapshot [03:47] i just installed ubuntu and the firt ssh i get Permission denied (publickey). [03:48] removed and one server with the same ip from known_hosts to no avail [03:49] it just adds the new server ip but denies me access === bparker_ is now known as bparker [04:12] why am i getting denied from my new local server? [04:12] what can i change on the client cause i have no access to the server yet === guiverc is now known as guiverc2 [04:26] fdelacruz: it's been configured to expect publickey login, and you didn't provide the corresponding private key [04:27] Hey everyone. [04:27] How's it going? [04:28] fdelacruz: run ssh -i with the private key file, or run ssh-agent, run its output, and ssh-add the key file [04:29] deltab: that wont affect my other keys [04:29] github mainly [04:34] fdelacruz: oh, if you already have an ssh-agent running, you can just add to that [04:40] deltab: this is all from my mac [04:41] i have no access to my ubuntu server [04:41] how did you set it up? [04:46] ssh -i with my private key did yield any good new [04:47] deltab: on a RP4 [04:48] tried a couple of other linuxes and this is the only giving me a headache [04:48] i guess its secured [04:48] but no word of it in the guides [04:50] fdelacruz: how did you get the image that's installed? [04:53] deltab: i got it from raspberrypi.org [04:54] fdelacruz: did you enable the ssh server ? [04:55] TJ-: i havent been able to login once [04:55] fdelacruz: as in https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/remote-access/ssh/ [04:55] fdelacruz: see "2. Enable SSH" [04:56] fdelacruz: or maybe you need to do 3 [04:58] Anyone know any secrets to fixing a mic that has perpetual low. If I'm yelling at my computer, on playback it's barely audible. [04:59] I've tried all the various inputs and used pavucontrol. [05:02] TJ-: i just tried 3 [05:02] earlier followed this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9lH4R_TSrs [05:03] didnt know that 4hrs later id be stil at it [05:03] fdelacruz: your options are to turn on password login by editing /etc/ssh/sshd_config, or to put your public key in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys [05:04] deltab: the content of my id_rsa.pub [05:05] fdelacruz: yes [05:05] a line starting "ssh-rsa AAA..." === tdannecy1 is now known as tdannecy [05:07] deltab: no cigar [05:07] i wonder if this is a mac thing [05:09] fdelacruz: it's a your-server thing: it's configured to require a key, so you have to give it a key [05:09] right which key? [05:09] its configured like that by default [05:09] so who configured it? [05:10] i just installed it [05:10] ubuntu?? [05:10] this is a headless install btw [05:11] well I don't know how you got into this situation, but you'll need to edit one of those two files, or overwrite the whole image [05:12] did you give a public key when you installed it? [05:13] no [05:13] could someone else have logged into it first? [05:13] i flashed the microSD card and that was it [05:14] put it inside teh RP4 [05:15] I can only suggest doing that again then [05:18] deltab: thanks [05:49] is there a some good doco on what's required for 'autoinstall'? or some way to verify your user-data file before attempting an install? === ace_me1 is now known as ace_me === EriC^ is now known as EriC^^ === StathisA_ is now known as StathisA [08:22] I use fvwm, how to auto getFocus when launch a program ? [08:27] In order to do disk passthrough, do you have to start vbox as root? I created a vmdk using -rawimage as sudo, and when I try to load the vmdk in virtualbox, it says no permission or something. What should one do in this situation? Start vbox as root or is there a setting which allows disk passthrough as user? [09:25] hi all [09:40] Hash: if it's running as a different user, you could allow that user access using chmod, chown, or setfacl [09:42] deltab: I added the user to the 'disk' group [09:43] Thank you [09:43] I think I got it so far. Will test more tomorrow [10:42] Hello everyone. On the latest 20.04 freshly updated, rebooted my server, "unknown filesystem btrfs" for my /home, I'm left out lol. Do you guys have an idea? I'm on kernel "5.4.0-65-generic #73-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jan 18 17:25:17 UTC 2021", if that helps [10:48] according to this page https://askubuntu.com/questions/1237337/how-to-install-ldoce5-viewer-on-ubuntu-20-04-64-bit [10:48] fixed with a modprobe, will add it at boot [10:48] cheers guys [10:48] <3 [10:49] i have problem with the sound part [10:49] appsrc.emit('push-buffer', Gst.Buffer.new_wrapped(self._data[:size].data())) [10:50] could you please help me ? [10:50] the buffer doesn't play sound [10:50] i have aoss file installed too [10:51] Do you know how to set the script to play sounds with aoss not buffer? [10:58] if I want to modify my sources, am I still okay modifying sources.list directly or is there something else these days? (I'm working off 10 year old knowledge...) [11:04] !sources | Monotoko [11:04] Monotoko: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories. [11:05] Thanks, for some reason the default setup is going to cn.archive.ubuntu.org which points to us.archive.ubuntu.org and is *very slow* in China [11:05] I've just switched it to a local mirror... [11:06] maybe the great firewall's out of capacity, blocking all the Tibet or Taiwan news [11:07] oh, it's always been very slow downloading anything from outside... it's a delibrate annoyance [11:07] if you verify hashes / signatures, then local mirrors should be fine. [11:07] Monotoko: could it be your side, like router/firewall/vpn/proxy? [11:07] as far as data integrity goes [11:08] lotuspsychje: I've moved a few times and it's been like this for years, no VPN on right now... I've got about 700mb of updates [11:09] Monotoko: if you sure its not your side you could ask for known issues at the #ubuntu-mirrors crew [11:09] sure, I can put in a report [11:10] is there a some good doco on what's required for 'autoinstall'? or some way to verify your user-data file before attempting an install? [11:14] Does the {http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu} repository harmful to be in my repository list and get update? [11:15] ripper: what are you trying to do exactly? [11:17] I think i've been adding it by downloading some softwares before and today i suddenly noticed it in my udate repository list.so i just want to know if it is normal to have it there or not? [11:18] update* [11:19] ripper: see the reccomended ubuntu sources on the factoid above ^^ [11:32] lotuspsychje: i found it.I've added it when i wanted to install python.Do i still need it in my source list to be updated to get the python packages or not? [11:33] ripper: before you add other sources, use apt-cache search foo to see if it lists your favorite package [11:33] ok [11:38] ripper: usualy we dont reccomend adding external sources or ppa's then the default ones [11:38] i see.thanks [11:39] [11:39] i'm affraid of being installed other packages from that ppa [11:40] without i know [11:44] ripper: that repo is supposed to be used to update EOL ubuntu [11:44] if you have to use it to download something old i'd remove it from the sources.list just in case [11:45] ripper: python is a very important component of the base system in ubuntu. You really don't want to be changing the version. A lot of things will very likely break. [11:47] ThinkT510: i see.but i've needed to use this package by the way.https://askubuntu.com/questions/1312070/sound-issue-of-ldoce5-viewer-written-in-python3-using-gstreamer [11:51] i've needed it as an old dependencies to install and use that package [11:51] ripper: looks like ldoce5 hasn't seen any development since 2018. If it is using python2 then you are better off looking for an alternative. [11:55] ripper: looks like the 2018 commit was a simple fix, the rest of the commits seem to be from 7 years ago. I think it is an abandoned project. [11:56] ThinkT510:Do you mean the python2 will cause some instability in system? [11:58] ripper: python2 is end of life, any software written in python2 will need to be ported to python3. I guess a lot of software in python2 is going to get abandoned due to lack of use. [11:58] i see [12:06] I just install Ubuntu 20.10 on a 8Gb raspi 4. Found there are almost no snaps because the desktop version is so new. The command line utilities are much more complete as the Ubuntu server version has been around for some time. [12:07] Anyhow manage to install visual studio code and compile it from source. Any good recipe on how to make it into a snap? [12:11] VS-code is amd64 only??? https://snapcraft.io/code [12:39] oerheks, yes. Ubuntu take 4 Gb to run and there seems no reason to make a arm32 version. [12:42] oerheks, VSC is written in javascript which is portable. The UI is blink engine which is ported to arm. The real problem is it needs python 2 which you need to download on 20.10. Also some clash between nodejs and the packages yarn download need to be untangled. [12:43] blink-engine is in chromium, opera etc [12:46] python2 is EOL, so i guess you want to use the version from https://code.visualstudio.com/download [12:46] good luck with that [12:53] Hi folks [13:37] i'm trying to find reverse dependencies of a package in hirsute [13:39] slingamn: apt policy packagename is what you need? [13:40] hmm, i don't actually have hirsute installed [13:40] i'm trying to get this information from a website or something [13:44] slingamn, so check out launchpad + package + hirsute? [13:44] good idea [13:45] i'm having trouble finding that information on either launchpad or packages.ubuntu.com [13:47] yes? [13:47] we have trouble finding out what package [13:48] whats the magical package name slingamn [13:48] python3-requests [13:48] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hirsute/amd64/python3-requests [13:49] https://packages.ubuntu.com/hirsute/python3-requests [13:49] !info python3-requests hirsute [13:49] 'hirsute' is not a valid distribution: bionic, bionic-backports, bionic-proposed, cosmic, cosmic-backports, cosmic-proposed, disco, disco-backports, disco-proposed, eoan, eoan-backports, eoan-proposed, focal, focal-backports, focal-proposed, groovy, groovy-backports, groovy-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, u [13:50] https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/msz9trzTSB/' [13:51] I would appreciate if you help me on : https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/msz9trzTSB/ [13:51] no crosspost please Hamidreza [13:51] lotuspsychje, I'm sorry I just update it [13:54] apt-cache rdepends [13:55] hirsute is actually valid, it's just not an official release OS atm, still under development [13:57] Hi, I am trying to ssh into an Ubuntu VM and I am getting this error - [13:57] connect to host *IP* port 22: Network is unreachable [13:57] Does this mean that the VM is down or does it mean that the VM has crashed? Can theVM be restored if it’s the latter? [13:58] I would question the host, \ random_programme [13:58] did ssh work before? [13:59] oerheks ssh was working before and I was running a command in the VM before the connection timed out. And from then on, I couldn't ssh into it again [14:25] random_programme: can you ping it? === octav1a_ is now known as octav1a [14:38] Hello, I have libx264-155 package preinstalled and I have a program which needs an older version libx264-152, should I uninstall the 155 version and then install the 152 or leave the 155 installed? I just don't want to break anything in case it's a dependency for a lot of things or smth [14:41] Hello there [14:42] hi [14:42] so I have some pendrive-distro here with, what looks like, ubuntu system [14:42] trying to get python3 via apt install shows, that only python3.5 is available, which is a bit too old [14:43] so could any of you kind sirs explain to me how do I tweak the sources.list to get the current "stable"? [14:43] apparently the debian versioning scheme with "stable/testing/unstable" doesn't work here [14:45] http://paste.debian.net/1183580/ where "stable" is, was "xenial" or something before [14:46] you can download the latest python3 from their website https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-391/ [14:47] sure, but I assume everything here is a bit out of date [14:48] wdym? [14:48] on the system I am on right now [14:48] ooh [14:48] I just want to dist-upgrade [14:48] sorry I can't help then [14:48] but don't know what codename I need to put in sources.list [14:48] k [14:53] drzacek: create a new pendrive install with the latest LTS (20.04 focal)? [14:54] would rather not [14:54] drzacek: altering sources.list isn't a good way to release-upgrade. Should use "release-upgrade" tool itself [14:54] any issues with upgrading from older version? [14:54] release-upgrade? what's that [14:54] drzacek: best would be to reset sources.list to the matching entries, then use "do-release-upgrade" [14:55] keep in mind those are my first 10 minutes on ubuntu [14:55] drzacek: you can discover the actual installed release with "cat /etc/lsb-release" [14:56] DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS" [14:56] Hello everyone. I hope you're enjoying life. [14:57] I'm one of those who still suffers from post traumatic stress following canonicals decision to abort unity. [14:58] drzacek: this may give you some more understanding: https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/upgrade-introduction [14:58] !ot | SneakyNick [14:58] SneakyNick: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [14:58] you can still use unity tho SneakyNick [14:58] oh [14:58] TJ-, thanks [15:02] okay. I have an issue. I can't load UEFI Firmware setup. I have tried ALL the usual approached. And I have never had this problem before. I dual boot Windows and Ubuntu using an UEFI boot menu, not grub. In the menu I got 'setup' as one of the options. When I select it, the system respons as if I'm clicking on a broken link. [15:02] I have tried Lenovo forum, but without any responses so far: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Lenovo-Yoga-Series-Notebooks/UEFI-firmware-setup-not-loading-even-when-using-novo-button/m-p/5063632 [15:03] hi [15:04] It's a strange issue. Do you understand? It's as if you select 'setup' but it simply won't load. [15:04] None of my Bluetooth output devices appear to be able to pair successfully with my computer.. pavucontrol only says "Establishing connection to PulseAudio.. please wait" [15:04] hi stoo SneakyNick [15:04] *hi too [15:05] Anyone got ANY suggestions for where I should be looking for troubleshooting? My own suggestion is virtualbox. Thinking something related to Secure Boot might affect. Pure speculation. [15:06] have you checked in bios if the secureboot thingy is active? [15:06] SneakyNick: what does virtalbox have to do with your dual boot issue? [15:08] SneakyNick: have you tried a complete cold power-off on in case it clear some broken state that is retained during a warm boot [15:09] the issue is about UEFI setup not being available even when selected, that it won't load. My mentioning of Virtualbox is pure speculation, nothing worth attention if you got another suggestion. [15:10] I have ofc tried to power off. But you are maybe talking about removing battery? [15:12] Battery is physically unavailable, but I have turned it completely off, several times. [15:14] This is the weirdest problem I have ever encountered. [15:18] The reason I mentioned Virtualbox at all, is because installing it in Ubuntu triggered some Secure Boot software, which prompted me to enter a password which I afterwards had to verify upon next boot. I have no rational reason for it to be significant other than it be an interaction between OS and UEFI. [15:21] SneakyNick: virtualbox was probably complaining that virtualisation wasn't enabled in the bios [15:22] I'm fantasizing Virtualbox may alter a switch in UEFI or similarly. Pure speculation. As far as I am aware, the setup software is stored in NVRAM (chip, not hard drive) but the boot screen upon where I select 'setup' is stored at the UEFI partition. I don't know, but perhaps the UEFI partition is altered. I certainly hope not the NVRAM has been changed. Don't think it's likely, but I don't know - at all. [15:24] SneakyNick: virtualbox requires kernel modules to be installed. if you had secure boot enabled then that would change the signature of the kernel hence why it asked you too reboot [15:25] SneakyNick: https://askubuntu.com/a/831241/1151311 [15:25] secureboot and enabling virtualisation are the only 2 things that would touch your bios [15:29] SneakyNick: i think you can load the firmware from grub if you can access that [15:30] if you run "fwsetup" in the grub command line [15:31] well, I don't have grub. But I suppose I could install it. [15:32] unless i do have it, unsure how it would be in a single boot system, which is what i suppose ubuntu is looking at since uefi handles booting. [15:37] SneakyNick: does F12 not work on the lenovo? isnt that for one-time boot menu [15:38] Hi, I'm still trying to fix my husband's computer. https://pastebin.com/nNmQeVFn [15:39] My grub file got GRUB_TIMEOUT=10 but still, no grub menu is present during boot. [15:40] SneakyNick: it sounds like somehow, the Lenovo has got corrupted NVRMA if the firmware Setup option has broken [15:40] SneakyNick: by default the menu is hidden ... tap Esc key to see the menu [15:40] SneakyNick: try holding shift when the pc boots [15:40] (first thing I enable is GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE="menu" [15:41] yeah i'll hold shift. Wish me good luck i'll be back. [15:41] GRUB can't detect shift toggle when doing UEFI - UEFI only reports key-down/key-up not toggle key status (Shift/Ctrl/Alt) hence using Esc [15:42] deltab: i figured out what was the problem [15:43] i had misconfigure the network-config [15:43] my access point to be exact [15:55] chalcedny: so you can boot to the desktop but everything is unusually large? [15:56] ThinkT510, pretty much. Today I put a different keyboard on it, because the keys were sticky. Now it gave me a login prompt, so i typed the password and now it says:No Video Input | Enter Sleep Mode [15:59] I'm still logged into it over here. [15:59] on ubuntu 20.04 "download and install automatically" is selected in software updates but it isn't installing automatically just downloading and prompting for installation. any ideas? [16:01] "and prompting for installation." ? so what is your issue? [16:01] chalcedny: are you intent on fixing the install? would it be an option to extract what you need off the drive and reinstall? [16:01] oerheks, they want it to install automatically, presumably [16:01] yes i do [16:01] i am sure there is no need to hit a key to install updates, it is part of the install itself [16:02] notobvious, try: "sudo apt install unattended-upgrades && sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow unattended-upgrades" [16:02] .. and even if you had to press a key, what is the issue? [16:02] oerheks, so by "automatic" it means you do it with the mouse? [16:02] ThinkT510, my husband got another hard drive, and ordered a ubuntu dvd, but it hasn't come yet. [16:03] oerheks, what if one wants security updates to happen when one isn't there? [16:03] if this is the default setting and there isn't wrong with my installation, i am fine with it tbh [16:03] *anything wrong [16:04] lordcirth, oh, i thought unattended-upgrades is standard [16:04] good spot [16:05] ThinkT510, he actually needs some stuff like the firefox profile [16:05] could i get that with commands? [16:05] I don't run Ubuntu desktop much, just server, so I don't know the GUI way [16:05] chalcedny: if you had a livecd/usb you could boot that and then mount the disk and copy what you need [16:06] ThinkT510, he probably ordered it from china on a boat. [16:06] chalcedny: you don't have any other computers you could make live usb from? [16:07] ive got 3 computers running windows. downloading here is a very bad idea. [16:10] chalcedny: but its ok to connect to irc and ask for help? [16:10] ThinkT510, irc is a low-bandwidth thing. Downloaging isn't. [16:11] chalcedny, FYI, in future you may be able to get updated ISOs with less bandwidth, using zsync [16:11] ThinkT510, rural america is deprived of modern amenities, such as cable. [16:13] chalcedny: so your display issue is with regard to the proprietary nvidia driver? [16:13] lordcirth, very interesting. [16:14] ThinkT510, it might be. [16:15] chalcedny: if you can boot into the system then see what the following outputs: lsmod nv* [16:15] \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ [16:16] chalcedny: lsmod will list the kernel modules currently loaded [16:16] kewl [16:16] ThinkT510, chull@vir:~$ lsmod nv* [16:16] Usage: lsmod [16:17] chalcedny: sorry: lsmod | grep nv* [16:18] ThinkT510, ah ok :) [16:18] Hi everyone. I have a weird issue and looking for ideas on how to fix it. After a recent apt upgrade, my desktop is showing all the files in my home folder. But I'm not expecting to see any files on my desktop. Is there some gconf/dconf variable I should set? [16:19] I don't have a $HOME/Desktop directory. Since i don't have one then it should show no files on my desktop, rather than the contents of my home folder :) [16:20] Hello. I have an Ideapad 3 and I installed a fresh download of Ubuntu 20.04. The trackpad isn't working. I'm not sure where to begin debugging the issue. xinput only shows the XTEST pointer. Under keyboard is the XTEST keyboard, power buttong, video bus, power button, integrated camera, ideapad extra buttons, at translated set 2 keyboard [16:20] ThinkT510, https://pastebin.com/Wb18LiyH [16:20] irl25519, weird problem, are you running mint or ubuntu? [16:21] ubuntu 20.04 [16:21] yeah, totally weird [16:21] wish i knew which package did that [16:21] no Desktop folder .. maybe a good idea to reistall? [16:22] chalcedny: looks like nouveau is already loaded. I was going to suggest trying that if you were using the nvidia driver. [16:22] that's a last resort after this channel :) [16:23] chalcedny: what does uname -a say? [16:23] ThinkT510, let's see? [16:23] @oerheks might be easier just to apt-get purge ubuntu-desktop and then install the package again [16:24] ThinkT510, chull@vir:~$ uname -a [16:24] Linux vir 5.4.0-53-generic #59~18.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 21 12:14:56 UTC 2020 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [16:27] chalcedny: 18.04.1 goes back a little. the current is 18.04.5. You're probably not ging to like my suggestion but have you made sure you've installed all available updates? [16:29] ThinkT510, that isn't apt to cause more problems? [16:29] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1910184 I'm guessing is a bug that's been submitted. [16:29] Launchpad bug 1910184 in linux (Ubuntu) "Trackpad not working on LenovoIdeaPad 3" [Undecided,Confirmed] [16:30] chalcedny: you should always be up to date for security reasons and bug fixes. Your issue might be solved with an update [16:31] chalcedny: if you are on 18.04.1 you might have a lot of updates to go through [16:31] ThinkT510, he should be on 20.04 .. [16:32] chalcedny: 5.4 is the default kernel for 20.04 but your uname says you are on 18.04.1 [16:33] that is royally messed up. [16:33] hwe 18.04 kernel [16:33] he was / is definitely on 20.04 [16:33] Why does the updater keep grabbing 5.8 kernels? [16:34] chalcedny: did you atone point do an upgrade from 18.04 to 20.04? [16:34] gp5st_, twhat guide are you following for that Lenovo IdeaPad 3 [16:34] he hasn't been using the computer for a couple of months [16:34] this post might have 2 fixes https://askubuntu.com/questions/1249298/lenovo-ideapad-3-14are05-touchpad-not-working-ubuntu-20-04 [16:34] ThinkT510, possibly. [16:35] oerheks, I don't have a guide. I've just installed from a USB drive [16:35] chalcedny: if it hasn't been used for months then you certainly have updates to get [16:35] I almost bricked my laptop. Only way I managed to enter OS, was by pressing a special key and select system UEFI recovery, which to make a long story short, doesn't work but it did at least alter UEFI boot order making Ubuntu partition boot first, before the boot menu and anything. Someone suggested I'd be able to access BIOS setup through a GRUB command. Was this a qualified suggestion, or a wild guess? Is it because of something relating to Secure Boot? [16:35] other solution; disable uefi, reverse to bios https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=333538 [16:36] chalcedny: typically that would be the first thing you should do to see if your problem is already addressed in an update [16:36] ThinkT510, maybe november. not all that long. [16:36] chalcedny: you'd be surprised [16:37] oerheks, ok, I'll try blacklisting that driver [16:38] ThinkT510, remind me the command for update and upgrade? [16:38] chalcedny: sudo apt-get update [16:38] chalcedny: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [16:38] i that order [16:38] in [16:39] I'm a little scared, because Secure Boot blocks USB from booting with backup systems. So, I need to get it right. The suggestion for BIOS setup being available through GRUB implies that it is ubuntu which is blocking setup from being available in the first place then? [16:39] ok, so I tried to install openssh-server and it claims it has unmet dependencies? [16:40] (so that I can do this from my laptop which has a mouse and I can copy/paste) [16:40] chalcedny: update fetches the latest information from the repositories while dist-upgrade actually downloads and installs the packages [16:41] gp5st_, openssh-server is amazingly useful. [16:42] chalcedny, it is, but this is a virgin ubuntu 20.04 install....why are there missing dependencies that it can't figure out? [16:42] ah, it seems openssh-client was installed via snap [16:43] by default? why [16:43] gp5st_, the serever needs more stuff. [16:44] chalcedny, no, it needed a different version of the client but it couldn't update the client because it was installed with snap [16:44] err, why update the client? [16:44] did you run a proper apt full-upgrade? [16:44] i don't know. I just tried to install the server [16:45] Unsure why, but it makes sense to me that BIOS setup would be available in GRUB if it is some Secure Boot thing with Ubuntu blocking it in the first place. [16:45] I did an apt-get dist-upgrade [16:45] and it claims there are no updates it needs [16:45] SneakyNick: ubuntu can't block the uefi firmware from loading, secureboot only means that it wont boot an efi file that isnt signed, eg grubx64.efi vs shimx64.efi [16:46] Think I found the solution to my issue by the way. For some reason XDG_DESKTOP_DIR in ~/.config/user-dirs.dir had been set to $HOME. Not sure how. But that's what i needed to alter to fix it [16:46] oke, you installd the server, did you follow a guide to setup a client? [16:46] SneakyNick: did you try accessing the uefi firmware via grub by typing 'fwsetup' ? [16:47] SneakyNick: if it still doesnt work and none of the keys that are supposed to access the bios work perhaps you should consider reinstalling the uefi firmware somehow and first maybe trying to reset the CMOS [16:48] oerheks, what guide? `apt-get install openssh-server` [16:49] No, I almost bricked. Doing backup of some files now, before further attempts. [16:50] a good start https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH [16:53] I'm quite confused why you think that link is helpful, esp when the first non-404 link's 2nd line is to apt-get install openssh-server [16:53] Eric: Updating grub almost rendered my system useless. Not sure why exactly. But doing update-grub affected the uefi boot menu. [16:55] gp5st_, 2nd url is all you need? [16:55] oerheks, you obviously didn't read my initial complaint [16:56] yes, complaints is all i read :-( [16:56] why? [16:57] the issue was apt wouldn't install it because it appears the default client is a snap and it couldn't reconcile the version that is installed by default with the server install. I had to purge the client and then install the server and client [16:59] sorry, this trackpad has put me in a bad mood because i'm installing linux because windows refuses to work without a microsoft account because of something called s mode and to install without a MS account I had to turn off the router to prevent it from connecting to the wifi because it won't give you the option to disconnect. I'm just in a foul mood this morning; I'm sorry. It's been 3 hours on this laptop for my kid that he [16:59] needs for school and I havn't been able to do my own work yet [17:04] gp5st_, consider removing snapd entirely to prevent further problems [17:05] oerheks, ok, so a couple of rabbit holes down to update hte kernel and then https://askubuntu.com/a/1276453 you pasted above works [17:05] not sure what `pci=nocrs` on the grub cmd line, but it seems to have worked [17:06] A more general newbie question. Shouldn't GRUB_TIMEOUT=10 make the grub menu available? To me it seems like it is often the case the menu is still unavailable. [17:07] why would that be the case, unless there is another contradictory line further down ofc. [17:08] It seems quite simple, right? [17:09] SneakyNick, I would check for other timeouts, yes. Where are you setting it? [17:11] where? in the etc defaults grub file, which on my system is pretty much as if it was a fresh install. And doing a update-grub afterwards ofc. [17:12] I'm also confused over both grub and grub2 being available on my system, which is a remake of ubuntu 21.04 (the version with unity desktop installed) [17:12] SneakyNick, there are several places it can be set. Check the final result in /boot/grub/grub.cfg (?) for "timeout"; if there is anything but your =10, you can track it down from there [17:18] Hi, when I install a package, where can I find the installation file? [17:18] !heir | Aryan [17:19] !hier | Aryan [17:19] Aryan: An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview see also: man hier [17:19] Aryan, dpkg -L [17:20] the /boot/grub/grub.cfg is a scripted file, a little hard to read easily, but anyway. Thanks. [17:21] Anyone got a comment on why both grub and grub2 is available? I suppose it is default on Ubuntu 21.04. [17:21] grub and grub2 are distinct pieces of software, yes? [17:21] SneakyNick, no need to read it all, just grep or use less with / [17:21] ubottu: I mean the .deb file [17:21] Aryan: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [17:21] ThinkT510: ^ [17:22] where can I find the .deb files? [17:23] Aryan, /var/cache/apt/archives [17:23] locate *.deb [17:25] SneakyNick: what's "dpkg -l | grep grub | nc termbin.com 9999" give? [17:25]