[08:28] <sakrecoer[b]> thanka @freenode_OvenWerks:matrix.org ! i think i tried all options in there. nifty feature, but it didn't solve my issue.
[08:28] <sakrecoer[b]> thanks*
[08:29] <sakrecoer[b]> on a fresh mind looking back there's one thing i did NOT try: reboot haha
[08:29] <sakrecoer[b]> fingers crossed my computer is in a better place today
[09:50] <sakrecoer[b]> at this point i'm pretty sure LSP is the problem
[09:51] <sakrecoer[b]> would be nice if someone else could try reproduce it on 20.10 fresh install...
[09:53] <sakrecoer[b]> works fine with anything else. But as soon as multisampler is in the mix, the midi tracks won't play midi consistently
[09:53] <rgh> Oh. Does the problem happen in another daw/host
[09:53] <rgh> Try carla
[09:53] <sakrecoer[b]> good call! i'll see what happens in qtractor
[09:54] <rgh> It has a nifty simple midi step sequencer plugin built in
[09:54] <sakrecoer[b]> oh.. really?
[09:54] <rgh> I think so.
[09:54] <sakrecoer[b]> where?
[09:55] <rgh> Maybe install X42 plugins?
[09:56] <rgh> I'm talking about carla, not qtractor ofc
[09:57] <sakrecoer[b]> yes... carla...
[09:57] <sakrecoer[b]> but... i can't find any midi step squencer in there
[09:58] <sakrecoer[b]> installing x42 sounds like an option, but it's not really a solution here. I want to use it in ardour. And the more i install things, the harder it will be to locate the error...
[09:59] <sakrecoer[b]> i'm thinking about updateing lsp instead.. but not sure how to proceeed.
[09:59] <sakrecoer[b]> it seems have a lot of locations with aliases pointing here and there...
[10:00] <sakrecoer[b]> (as it is installed now)
[10:01] <rgh> Wow
[10:01] <rgh> Just use your package manager
[10:01] <sakrecoer[b]> my package manager doesn't seems to be 3 versions behind upstream
[10:02] <sakrecoer[b]> i mean..
[10:02] <sakrecoer[b]> it seems to be 3 version behind
[10:02] <sakrecoer[b]> doens't seem to be up to date
[10:03] <rgh> If you install plugins manually (no deb) install everything in ~/.lv2
[10:03] <rgh> Don't many copy anything to your system directories
[10:04] <sakrecoer[b]> i should probably remove the debian packages first, right?
[10:04] <rgh> When upgrading just overwrite existing files (in that home dir)
[10:04] <rgh> yup
[10:05] <rgh> Although kx has just updated lsp and you can grab the plugin from their website
[10:05] <rgh> Did you test in qtractor already?
[10:05] <rgh> Before randomly upgrading stuff?
[10:05] <sakrecoer[b]> no, i'll do that first
[10:05] <rgh> Okidoki
[10:06] <sakrecoer[b]> uff... haha! right... qtractor... How does this beast's midi work again?
[10:06] <rgh> It's not that different from ardour
[10:07] <rgh> Just create a midi track, and right click on things
[10:08] <sakrecoer[b]> oh... well, that was a quick crash
[10:09] <sakrecoer[b]> seems multisampler simply crashes tractor
[10:11] <rgh> Oh joy
[10:13] <rgh> https://x42-plugins.com/x42/x42-stepseq-8x8
[10:13] <rgh> I though this plugin came with carla.
[10:14] <rgh> X42 is rgareus, which is the dev of ardour. I think you are pretty safe installing these excellent plugins.
[10:14] <sakrecoer[b]> i have a couple of x42 thingies, but they are all audio plugins not midi
[10:14] <sakrecoer[b]> at least, availble in carla
[10:15] <sakrecoer[b]> an autotune \o/ i can be pop star, once i figure out how to make a frigging drum pattern
[10:15] <sakrecoer[b]> i really don't want to have 23 different apps to start for this lol
[10:16] <sakrecoer[b]> but eventually i might just surrender to that reality
[10:17] <rgh> Oh!
[10:18] <rgh> No wait. That's doesn't work because I have a newer version of ardour
[10:18] <rgh> I was gonna ask you for a project file
[10:22] <sakrecoer[b]> what doesn't work?
[10:22] <sakrecoer[b]> ah...
[10:22] <sakrecoer[b]> right...
[10:22] <sakrecoer[b]> how do i make qtractor play=
[10:23] <sakrecoer[b]> ?
[10:23] <sakrecoer[b]> lol
[10:27] <sakrecoer[b]> oh boy...
[10:27] <sakrecoer[b]> my head is about implode
[10:29] <sakrecoer[b]> ah, it was set to slave lol!
[10:30] <sakrecoer[b]>  ye ok. lsp makes qtractor crash...
[10:30] <sakrecoer[b]> other synths are fine though
[10:31] <rgh> Mmmm now it sounds suspiciously like an lsp error
[10:32] <rgh> Uninstall with package manager
[10:32] <rgh> Get new plugins from lsp-plug.in
[10:33] <sakrecoer[b]> well... the plot thickens...
[10:33] <rgh> Note, you can't download a single plugin, it's a bundle with all plugins
[10:33] <sakrecoer[b]> i somehow managed to have qtractor runing with multisampler.
[10:33] <sakrecoer[b]> and i can play several notes at the same time without problem
[10:33] <rgh> Naaannnniiiii?
[10:34] <sakrecoer[b]> well.. there it died again lol
[10:34] <rgh> Ok. Try demo ardour
[10:35] <rgh> You can safely install and remove it from your system besides your package managers ardour
[10:35] <rgh> The demo installs in /opt
[10:36] <sakrecoer[b]> thanks! i will!
[10:36] <sakrecoer[b]> But now i have to try get some work done :'(
[10:36] <sakrecoer[b]> or rather some other work done
[10:36]  * rgh uploaded an image: UotUE_bsZvey6bCct6EH8J--nvY.gif (158KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/ByuvKuuuZoMfGOVjuphSPCQb/UotUE_bsZvey6bCct6EH8J--nvY.gif >
[10:36] <rgh> The emperor wants it
[10:37] <sakrecoer[b]> you the best rgh thank you so much for lending me your eyes
[10:38] <rgh> Yw
[10:58] <sakrecoer[b]> ok i lied (don't tell my boss) and 20 minutes later i have a decent kit of lofi hiphop drums in geonkick. I think i'm gonna just stick with this for a while :D
[11:15] <sakrecoer[b]> wait? the projects made with ardour availble in ubuntu studio 20.04 are not compatible with the version in 20.10?
[11:29] <sakrecoer[b]> nah...
[11:29] <sakrecoer[b]> it's just one project that's gone berzek, but probably i did something weird...
[11:32] <sakrecoer[b]> oh... history is saved \o/
[11:33] <sakrecoer[b]> i was about to die a little bit inside. I've got a record deal for this thing :')
[12:13] <rgh> OvenWerks: gonna reinstall. this install was first a lubuntu, then added xubuntu , removed lubuntu stuff
[12:13] <rgh> 10/10 I borked something
[12:13] <rgh> I kinda forgot how I did this, until I plugged in the usb stick and it said "Lubuntu 20.10" lol
[14:23] <rgh> OvenWerks: everything works now
[14:53] <sakrecoer[b]> just saw this in the ardour logs: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/kMjrX5DdV9/
[14:53] <sakrecoer[b]> it seems to be blacklisting a few lsp things
[14:55] <sakrecoer[b]> it's listing a few paths that i have explicitly removed...
[14:55] <sakrecoer[b]> and why is it blacklisting dexed :'(
[14:55] <sakrecoer[b]> oh... a blacklist clear button!
[14:56] <sakrecoer[b]> ardour added them back after a scan...
[15:23] <sakrecoer[b]> ook... hehe vst3 support is from 6.5 got it :D
[15:30] <sakrecoer[b]> i guess i am going to try my luck with backports
[15:39] <sakrecoer[b]> HOLY CANELONI!!!! :tada:
[15:40] <sakrecoer[b]> even dat darn multisample iz happy robot now :')
[18:33] <sakrecoer[b]> this is great! everything just funkzioniert!!! 👨‍🎤🤹🤖💃
[18:35] <sakrecoer[b]> new geonkick even previews sample in its browser and haz sexy UI besserung
[18:41]  * sakrecoer[b] uploaded a video: 4_5818844090875251680.mp4 (1090KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/basspistol.org/pKYrABeONdDOmnpBBNlUIovA/4_5818844090875251680.mp4 >
[20:11] <Kraus> How would one load a Carla profile upon login? Alternatively, how can I default Carla to load with a .carxp? In Session and Startup, carla %u works to load the program, but how to get the .carxp file to load, would I have to add an option in the command?
[20:14] <Kraus> Nevermind! Duh! $ carla ~/carla-profile_01.carxp
[20:14]  * Kraus 's mind expands.
[20:22] <Kraus> Damn. "Failed to load project. Engine is not initialized."
[20:42] <OvenWerks> Kraus: whatever script you are using to launch at session start, add a sleep 15 or so. maybe start with sleep 30 and go down till it works. Have to make sure jack is set to start on session start of course
[20:43] <OvenWerks> next version of studio-controls can run a post start script which would be better.
[20:44]  * OvenWerks thinks he might move the script run till after all the bridges are set up on second thought
[20:47] <Kraus> OvenWerks: That would be nifty! Of course, that means it would be part of 20.10 yeah?
[20:48] <Kraus> OvenWerks: Are you sure it's called sleep? All the websearch results for sleep are talking about sleep commands to make the whole computer sleep.
[20:49] <Kraus> Oh! `sleep NUMBER[SUFFIX]`
[20:50] <Kraus> Let's try sleep 5
[21:24] <wonko> OvenWerks: That sounds lovely. I Even with a session manager I still have a pile of work to do to get a running system after logging in.
[21:36] <Kraus> I figured it out btw!
[21:36] <Kraus> #!/bin/sh
[21:36] <Kraus> jack_wait -w && sleep 2 && carla -n ~/carla-profile_01.carxp; bash
[21:36] <Kraus> Voila!