[00:24] <wxl[m]> <teward "wxl: is it a formerly available "> Yep. https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/help-running-20-10-and-it-doesnt-seem-to-recognize-my-capture-card/2144/10
[01:59] <teward> wxl[m]: maybe a google on that being removed from the kernel might be important.  Especially since it's an upstream pull i think
[02:00] <wxl> i think it's all pretty answered there
[02:00] <wxl> it sounds like there's some new architecture in the kernel that it was incompatible with and they're working on fixing it up
[02:01] <wxl> but it was removed from the kernel before they decided to try to do that
 makes sense.  (I didn't read the whole answer heh)
[04:45] <The_LoudSpeaker> wxl: ah now i get it. I should actually fix the merge using the mergeomatic folder and then see the difference between open and the newly created merge.
[04:46] <The_LoudSpeaker> *Between phab and the newly created merge.
[04:54] <The_LoudSpeaker> Also on D105, i think we should keep the copyright part as still the backlight related stuff is commented out. I'd delete the copyright section only if it was completely gone from d/control sound good?
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[19:55] <wxl> The_LoudSpeaker: i guess i don't know. my complaints about the comments are just being annoyed at poor form from upstream. however, removing authors from copyright is in general BAD, so there should be a clear reason why. i'm *GUESSING* that this is because of backlight being removed, but i don't know. it needs further investigation
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[20:01] <wxl> @kc2bez: we've got a fix for too-big error messages filling up dialogs in cala. might be nice to get that patch in https://github.com/calamares/calamares/commit/b9210721e6e8828c712fde33bc52406a0892236e
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[20:06] <kc2bez[m]> wxl: I can patch it but  I if I had to guess there will be a new release soon.
[20:07] <wxl> kc2bez[m]: ok well i put it in incoming
[20:07] <kc2bez[m]> perfect. if we get too far I will make sure to get it fixed up. 
[20:10] <wxl> i don't think we have a policy concerning the whole development cycle but we should probably create one. maybe even a thing where weekly we check on a couple things. maybe we make it part of the meetings to discuss or maybe we make it one person's job. i'm thinking of things like looking at the state of merges, checking on the status of incoming fixes (and deciding whether to patch or wait), etc.
[20:11] <wxl> OMG UBUNTU INDEED https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/02/martin-wimpress-ubuntu-desktop-lead-leaving-canonical
[20:21] <kc2bez[m]> wxl: maybe we should start a discourse post in development? or were you thinking weekly posts?
[20:25] <wxl> kc2bez[m]: i'm more thinking policy/procedure/process than anything. i'm not sure exactly what but something should be done. last time i looked at incoming it had a bunch of old stuff in it, so that wasn't getting watched. and we know the issues about merges. we just need to be more proactive about that and i think having the right sort of organization in place will make that happen
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[20:28] <wxl> kc2bez[m]: maybe a discourse post might be a good start to figuring out a good solution. i'll work on that
[20:31] <kc2bez[m]> Thanks wxl
[20:32] <wxl> meanwhile i just discovered this https://phab.lubuntu.me/T54#2815 but i don't know if we want to make that default?
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[20:37] <kc2bez[m]> wxl: do we know what happens by default. I ask because I never paid attention. 
[20:39] <wxl> kc2bez[m]: i don't! do you (or anyone else) have any particular feelings about which would be better? i kind of don't. if the option is there, i think that solves the big problem, regardless of what default we choose
[20:56] <kc2bez[m]> I like it as the default. I will have to check on a new install. 
[20:56] <wxl> i'll leave that to you then :)
[20:58] <kc2bez[m]> Fair enough, I will check it. 
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[21:01] <tsimonq2> ABI BREAKKK
[21:01] <tsimonq2> Oh hey 
[21:01] <tsimonq2> Didn't see you there 
[21:01] <tsimonq2> What's up y'all?
[21:01] <wxl> hahahahah
[21:01] <wxl> hanging in there
[21:01] <wxl> howzit
[21:01] <tsimonq2> I got your texts, I appreciate the well wishes wxl ❤
[21:02] <wxl> np
[21:02] <tsimonq2> Ack on weekly janitorial services. :P
[21:03]  * tsimonq2 throws the mop at @teward001 at the speed of 1000 suns
[21:03] <wxl> heheheh i mean yeah i guess we could put it that way
[21:03] <wxl> i think if we were a much bigger team we wouldn't need to formalize it as much
[21:03] <tsimonq2> True
[21:04] <wxl> anyways you just dropping in to say hi? 
[21:05] <tsimonq2> Yeah, for now. My world domination plans are on hold for now due to budget constraints.
[21:05] <wxl> kc2bez[m]: not sure if its related as i haven't looked much into it but bug 1855792 may be related
[21:05] <wxl> sounds good. there's always tomorrow XD
[21:09] <kc2bez[m]> <tsimonq2 "ABI BREAKKK"> ohai
[21:10] <kc2bez[m]> <wxl "i think if we were a much bigger"> organization never hurts really. I know I need it. 
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[21:19] <wxl> hey who do i talk to about getting notes.l.m set up for me (again?)?
[21:20] <kc2bez[m]> @teward001 wxl
[21:21] <wxl> in that case @teward001 i need a notes account. i used to have one but my old credentials don't seem to work
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[22:29] <RyuKurisu[m]> <wxl "including the utter mess of orga"> I don't know how much work it'll be, but Garuda Linux managed to get Calamares to install on Btrfs with swap and hibernation support.  I hope it will be as easy as adding a config file ...
[22:34] <wxl> RyuKurisu[m]: you can see we regularly test on btrfs though i'm not sure about swap https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/release-team/testing-checklist/
[22:35] <wxl> also since swap files are supported in 5.0+ that's good
[22:35] <wxl> but it seems to me that butter has some really peculariar requirements for how the swapfile is created
[22:36] <wxl> it has to be on a new subvolume that's not snapshotted for example
[22:37] <wxl> AND THEN there's the fact that hibernation has its own crazy requirements
[22:37] <wxl> i mean this? yikes https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Power_management/Suspend_and_hibernate#Hibernation_into_swap_file_on_Btrfs
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[22:39] <wxl> for being so highly regarded, it seems btrfs is really crappily supported. it's kind of ridiculous.
 wxl: specific address you want?
 or do you not care which one I use :P
 need an email to create an account ;)
[22:48] <wxl> it was on wxl@lubuntu.me 
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[23:36] <wxl> hey really quick does anyone know how to specify the location of a storage pool in lxd? i'd like it to go under my home folder in this case
[23:39] <wxl> ^ @teward001 ?
[23:48] <kc2bez[m]> I don't know what you have for a fs on your ~ but there are some examples on this page that might help. https://linuxcontainers.org/lxd/docs/master/storage
[23:52] <wxl> looks like ext3
[23:53] <wxl> OH i could use a dir backend right?
[23:56] <kc2bez[m]> I think so. 
[23:57] <kc2bez[m]> ext3 Had that install around for a bit huh?
[23:57] <wxl> yeah
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