 Since myself and others in here that have tried to help have not been able to find out what features are working and what aren't on the f(x)tec Pro X I reached out to the company and they did respond but basically ignored my actual question. They just replied saying UT is a beta OS on their phone, which didn't help me much since I alre
[00:12] <ubptgbot> ady knew that. So once again, does anyone in here happen to know whats working and whats not on that model? I don't want to place my order until I know.
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/KreE3vPd.webp
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[01:39] <ubptgbot> <Nitin Sharma> Anyone use ubuntu touch in mobile how it works
 @Nitin Sharma [Anyone use ubuntu touch in mobile how it works], um what exactly do you want to know
 @drym4rch0n [Since myself and others in here that have tried to help have not been able to fi …], you know what? i'm going to go on a limp and say that the status of the prox is the same as the pro1, maybe we should ask the pro1 owners on their thoughts
 @arthurabdulin [I would wait for someone to confirm that mobile data on Volla UT works in UK.], I have an EE SIM from the UK, but I'm using it in Canada now. I have a Volla Phone on it's way. I expect that the SIM piggybacking off the TELUS network should work well. But that doesn't help you, I know. Whenever I'm back on vacation in
[02:37] <ubptgbot>  the UK (which I don't think will be for many months yet) I'll test it in it's home country for anyone interested.
 @Fuseteam [you know what? i'm going to go on a limp and say that the status of the prox is …], you're probably right but I was hoping since the phone designers ported UT themselves for the X with hardware they purchased that assumably had firmware included that they had a better chance of getting every main feature working. Especially
[02:53] <ubptgbot> since they decided to have it as an OS option when ordered.  … Odd they won't say though. If everything works you would think they would want people to see that, and if something doesn't work you would think they would want to avoid the angry consumer that bought it not knowing much about Linux on a smartphone.
 guess that's normal company stuff
 @Fuseteam [guess that's normal company stuff], True
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 Hello. Tell me, which config is responsible for the work of Bluetooth
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 @DennoGram [Hello. Tell me, which config is responsible for the work of Bluetooth], @ubports_porting
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 @TartanSpartan [I have an EE SIM from the UK, but I'm using it in Canada now. I have a Volla Pho …], Hello Seumas! Yes, I am interested. Could you please keep me posted?
 I should be in android 9 on a device pixel 2 xl to try the Ubuntu to touch?
 @arthurabdulin [Hello Seumas! Yes, I am interested. Could you please keep me posted?], I shall :) but it may be some weeks before my Volla actually arrives.
 @NikosPantelaros [I should be in android 9 on a device pixel 2 xl to try the Ubuntu to touch?], yes
 @just_carlod [@ubports_porting], Thank's
 @NikosPantelaros [I should be in android 9 on a device pixel 2 xl to try the Ubuntu to touch?], [Edit] yes, you have to be on android 9
 https://bit.ly/39H9g77 … crypto pump🚀🚀🚀
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 By brian could you please try  /usr/share/ofono/scripts/set-context-property 0 Protocol ip if this fixes your mobile data issue on lavender?
 disable mobile data, execute command, then reenable it
 Where is call history-missed calls?
 ~.local/share/history-service/history.sqlite
 see voice_events table
 @lduboeuf [~.local/share/history-service/history.sqlite], Thanx man
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 @ee [sorry, what do you mean? in which cases does android use MAC address for locatio …], those cars google drives around, not only take pictures for the maps, but they have a wifi scanner in them that is mapping the location of all hotspots it drives by
 boot fine on my pixel 2 xl
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/fyDlN4ap.webp
 https://bit.ly/3oDzxaU
 @NikosPantelaros [<reply to unk>], Cool another pixel incoming 😆
[14:33] <ubptgbot> <By brian All rights reserved> @TartanSpartan [I have an EE SIM from the UK, but I'm using it in Canada now. I have a Volla Pho …], Guy from uk has volla and mobile don’t work we’re on EE
 @arthurabdulin [Has anyone got Volla UT working mobile data in the UK?], could you send me an output of /usr/share/ofono/scripts/list-contexts from it? I wonder if it is a similar issue to lavender
 @arthurabdulin [Has anyone got Volla UT working mobile data in the UK?], [Edit] could you please send me an output of /usr/share/ofono/scripts/list-contexts from it? I wonder if it is a similar issue to lavender
 @mateosalta [those cars google drives around, not only take pictures for the maps, but they h …], everyone with an android phone with google play services is doing that anyway
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/EVg7A1ZY.mp4
 @mateosalta [those cars google drives around, not only take pictures for the maps, but they h …], Welcome to modern hecknology
[14:42] <Shadowbird2468> hey! I figured my first problem, now I just need to detect the device again. how do I do that?
[14:42] <Shadowbird2468> in fastboot?
[14:44] <ubptgbot> <By brian All rights reserved> @NotKit [By brian could you please try  /usr/share/ofono/scripts/set-context-property 0 P …], Can I edit it and change with txt editor
[14:45] <ubptgbot> <By brian All rights reserved> Ok 👍
[14:47] <ubptgbot> <By brian All rights reserved> I’ll try it later let you now
 @mateosalta [those cars google drives around, not only take pictures for the maps, but they h …], scary...
 @dohbee [everyone with an android phone with google play services is doing that anyway], scary...
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[15:15] <Shadowbird2468> I figured it
[15:15] <Shadowbird2468> yeeey! It's working!! :D  thank you guys for all your help, I appreciate!
[15:15] <Shadowbird2468> what is this "passphrase", what is it asking for?
 phablet probably
 we didn't really help tho, tis all you :p
[15:17] <Shadowbird2468> :D
[15:17] <Shadowbird2468> phablet didn't work
 oh that's odd
 how about empty?
[15:18] <Shadowbird2468> I entered the password that I created during install
 tbh it looks like you have the makings of a porter wink wink nudge nudge
[15:18] <Shadowbird2468> is it like root password
 eh? you entered a password?
 *during install i mean
[15:19] <Shadowbird2468> yea, maybe I should have left it empty
 does it not recognize that password?
[15:20] <Shadowbird2468> it works now
[15:20] <Shadowbird2468> I just didn't realize at first that it was asking for that
 ah that explains it
 usually it works if you just enter the 4-digit screen unlock key too
 i dont remember the proper password i set when i made the install but my 4-digit thingy works for everything that asks 😆
 how to lock everyone out but yourself on UT: … - set a pin … - enable ssh … - use passwd to change your pin to an actually password … - ??? … - confusion
 [Edit] how to lock everyone out but yourself on UT: … - set a pin … - enable ssh … - ssh in use passwd to change your pin to an actual password … - ??? … - confusion
 hehe
 in the pixel 2 xl the microphone does not work on calls but beeps normally
 [Edit] in the pixel 2 xl the microphone does not work on calls but signal normally
 No working gps
 does anyone know how to sync with google contacts;
 google blocks ut
 interesting enough i can log in with morph but i cannot sync my calendar
 [Edit] google blocks third party applications
 Hello!  Are you planning to have Firefox on UT?
 @JyotiGomes [Hello!  Are you planning to have Firefox on UT?], That's surely a question for Mozilla
 I asked that because Firefox on UT would certainly solve the problem of accessing Google's content
 im not sure it would really
 Not using Google would solve this too. 😉
 Someone would need to create a firefox for phones with Ubuntu Touch. Nothing done in an evening.
 Mozilla would be the right people to make a Firefox.
 @JyotiGomes [I asked that because Firefox on UT would certainly solve the problem of accessin …], uh the browser isn't the issue perse, its more how google services are accessed outside the browser
 but as alan says its up to mozilla to support ut
 theres been a lot of work amongst Pinephoners to make the regular desktop firefox 'work' on phones, but it's not a different build its just the same browser squished down with various tweaks and fixes, but its not Qt based so I don't think it'd run on UT without Libertine or similar would it?
 either way... even if you did make it work... that doesn't mean that google stuff will suddenly work on UT, because as Tobiyo said its a case of not being able to use google accounts in the actual UT accounts settings, not necessarily in the browser, which presumably would be down to google to fix
 I tried to install Firefox by Libertine, but it won't open 😊
 @PiecerEdd [theres been a lot of work amongst Pinephoners to make the regular desktop firefo …], it would, it just needs to ship with the correct dependencies
 @PiecerEdd [theres been a lot of work amongst Pinephoners to make the regular desktop firefo …], [Edit] it would, it just needs to ship with the correct dependencies in the click
 but gtk probably no longer has a mir backend so that may wait on wayland support
 @PiecerEdd [theres been a lot of work amongst Pinephoners to make the regular desktop firefo …], latest firefox does wayland so it should work mostly ok
 To get a Wayland-capable Firefox you'll need a 20.04 base.
 cool
 @JyotiGomes [I asked that because Firefox on UT would certainly solve the problem of accessin …], it won't
 would be interesting either way to have Firefox on UT (with all the kind of tweaks pinephoner's are using to make it touchy), just not sure it'd fix the "google problem" 😆
 probably won't solve the google problem yeah
 but that's all post 20.04 music xD
 Only Google can fix the "google problem", but there's no reason for them to do it in the foreseeable future.
 ^^
 they are even pulling their API from chromium
 that has nothing to do with the oauth signin issue though
 I thought there was a fix for that oauth signin issue? Or was that only for a specific application (dekko maybe?)
 yeah, there isn't a real fix for the online accounts login problem
 i'd say a proper caldav / carddav solution would fix the online accounts problem. it moves the focus from google to the open alternatives
 but that's me ;)
 i mean caldav just works
 carddav i guess needs that but it'll still need the user to migrate from google to open alternatives first
 (Photo, 1280x807) https://irc.ubports.com/Vl0qLQPd.png Finally got answers from f(x)tec about UT on the Pro X
 yay, how did you get an  answer?
 Thanks Rickey, did you replied asking for any schedule ? :)
 uh well not sure on that part, volte is a bigger issue ut has been dealing with
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 Hello.I have a problem .When I download a file in morph browser, it gives an error that the file cannot be written locally due to access restrictions.How do I fix this?
 eh? how are you saving it?
 also what device are you using?
 I have a redmi 7a . I usually save the file in the downloads folder. When I click on the download button it gives an error .
 @Oliv4945 [Thanks Rickey, did you replied asking for any schedule ? :)], No, but i will
 @Fuseteam [yay, how did you get an  answer?], I just replied back with the same questions i asked the first time.
 @drym4rch0n [I just replied back with the same questions i asked the first time.], lol they must've caught wind of your genuine interesting in buying the phone
 @drym4rch0n [<reply to media>], thats interesting though... didn't their previous device advertise sailfish OS support as well? does that mean that's dropped on the newer one?
 @drym4rch0n [No, but i will], i think the volte issue is the same issue all current ut devices are dealing with, so its likely the same issue with calls (assuming you're in america)
 @drym4rch0n [<reply to media>], ah, it is good they are planing to work on volte
 @PiecerEdd [thats interesting though... didn't their previous device advertise sailfish OS s …], considering sailfish uses ofono, it probably has the same issue with volte
 oh i didnt mean regarding that issue specifically
 just like, generally, 'surprised they're not supporting sailfish this time round' 😆
 i mean they probably are but don't consider it "product-ready" just like ubuntu touch
 though I imagine if UT is ported then someone will end up porting Sailfish too
 he did specifically ask for UT xD
 [Edit] he did specifically ask for UT xD
 ahhhh yeah
 its just that they said lineage/android are the only ones but that doesnt mean others wont come later, im reading too much into it
 @JyotiGomes [Hello!  Are you planning to have Firefox on UT?], You can use desktop Firefox 84 via a Libertine container - at least it works with some of my UT devices - although it seems to crash on arm64 devices currently.
 @TotalSonic [You can use desktop Firefox 84 via a Libertine container - at least it works wit …], it runs on my OnePlus One, but it is very slow
 @PiecerEdd [its just that they said lineage/android are the only ones but that doesnt mean o …], something like that yeah haha
 @LGeek [it runs on my OnePlus One, but it is very slow], no hardware accel is the reason iirc
 @LGeek [it runs on my OnePlus One, but it is very slow], Yup - Libertine does not have any hardware acceleration. On my Meizu Pro 5 on a WiFi connection it runs well enough to be actually usable but Morph is way smoother. On my Volla it crashes immediately.
 For my needs Morph is enough, but i like to have alternatives just in case. I'm looking for a Linux Phone to buy, but i need at least 64GB of storage, do you recommend the Volla phone?
 The one thing I can say that Firefox offers better than Morph is on being anti-tracking - Morph fails on this test from EFF.org,/where as Firefox and Fennec do relatively well, https://coveryourtracks.EFF.org
 might want to fix that link :P
 or not-a-link as it were
[17:52] <ubptgbot> <X YZ> @TotalSonic [The one thing I can say that Firefox offers better than Morph is on being anti-t …], Some interesting reading on this: https://madaidans-insecurities.github.io/browser-tracking.html#fingerprint-testing-websites
 @LGeek [For my needs Morph is enough, but i like to have alternatives just in case. I'm …], The Volla phone is excellent with UT, but you need to make sure that it will work for phone calls and mobile data with your carrier because it is limited to frequency  bands that are Euro-centric. Right now in USA I can make phone calls with T-m
[17:58] <ubptgbot> obile but only get 2g on mobile data, where as on AT&T I  get 4g/LTE, but no phone calls. I flashed the de-Googled Android "Volla OS" as it is likely to work for both calls and data on AT&T,  but I definitely prefer UT by far.
 [Edit] The one thing I can say that Firefox offers better than Morph is on being anti-tracking - Morph fails on this test from EFF.org,  where as Firefox and Fennec do relatively well, https://coveryourtracks.EFF.org
 @TotalSonic [The one thing I can say that Firefox offers better than Morph is on being anti-t …], there are some flags that can work on qtwebengine to prevent some fingerprintinh
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 Sort of weird question, but does UBports/Ubuntu Touch/Libertine support OpenGL?
 graphics are not accelerated for Xmir apps, so GL things probably won't work in libertine
 Ahh... That makes sense and explains why SuperTuxKart keeps crashing 😅
 Thanks
 there is an STK package in the open store though i think
 that's tuxracer, tis a different game
 no, i'm pretty sure someone was also working on making tuxkart as a click
 maybe they didn't finish it though?
 i don't think it has made it to the store yet
 I saw that. Got abandoned due to some issues with the Irrlicht engine relying on X or something
 It was last updated in 2017 iirc
 no there has been a recent effort to port games to UT, not sure if STK was one of 'em tho
 Hhi
 @Fuseteam [no there has been a recent effort to port games to UT, not sure if STK was one o …], don't question my memory :P https://t.me/UbuntuAppDevEN/42484
 @mateosalta [there are some flags that can work on qtwebengine to prevent some fingerprintinh], That would be great to see happen. Maybe for OTA-17?
 Couldn’t find the repo in question at the moment, but here’s a related issue
 https://github.com/supertuxkart/stk-code/issues/4371
 Also sorry for late responses, juggling between messaging and packing 😅
 @dohbee [don't question my memory :P https://t.me/UbuntuAppDevEN/42484], you win 😂
 @marquiskurt [Also sorry for late responses, juggling between messaging and packing 😅], no worries :)
 Looks like that’s a different repo than the one I saw, which doesn’t even use clickable
 (Which is a bit of a shame, because I like clickable. Feels similar to NPM in some ways)
 did you happen to see this one? https://t.me/ubports/321524
 Just saw it. Haven’t tested it or anything, but looks more promising that the other one that’s being no elusive right now
 [Edit] Just saw it. Haven’t tested it or anything, but looks more promising that the other one that’s being elusive right now
 coolio
[18:58] <ubptgbot> <By brian All rights reserved> @JyotiGomes [I tried to install Firefox by Libertine, but it won't open 😊], How do you install libertine
 @PiecerEdd [its just that they said lineage/android are the only ones but that doesnt mean o …], for pro1 x, they only promoted android, lineage and UT though they did mention others like debian and sailfish os to be ported in the future.  But I think Sailfish is actually has a more advanced port than UT since it was ported first in t
[19:04] <ubptgbot> he Pro1 which is mostly the same as pro1 x anyway
 @By brian All rights reserved [How do you install libertine], Libertine should be in System Settings
[19:06] <ubptgbot> <By brian All rights reserved> Ok cheers 🥂
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 @Javacookies [for pro1 x, they only promoted android, lineage and UT though they did mention o …], fair enough, that's all cool either way (especially Debian!) I love my Cosmo for all its dual/triple/quadruple booting capabilities
 is it useful to boot all those OS's on your phone? naww... is it cool? yeeeeee
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 @marquiskurt [Libertine should be in System Settings], documentation is here  http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/dailyuse/libertine.html
 @By brian All rights reserved [Ok cheers 🥂], documentation is here http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/dailyuse/libertine.html
 (Photo, 1080x2520) https://irc.ubports.com/hGh9vqFR.png
 I have received an update of UT
 But after a reboot there have not update
 reboot into recovery
 How I can update my UT?
 With twrp?
 or UT but how I can reboot in recovery with UT?
 @golliath51 [With twrp?], you can't do OTA if you're using TWRP
 you must have UT recovery to get OTA
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 @PiecerEdd [fair enough, that's all cool either way (especially Debian!) I love my Cosmo for …], What is this cosmo that can quad boot? Never heard of it.
 this cosmo communicator phone that I've shilled about 20 times this week in this channel
 its got a weird boot selector thingy
 linu
 so mine has Android, rooted Android, UBPorts and Debian on the boot selector
 I guess I could replace the rooted Android with sailfish but there's a problem with that boot option that cuts WiFi off so eh, its a bit useless for anything you actually want to play with
[22:25] <ubptgbot> <X YZ> @drym4rch0n [What is this cosmo that can quad boot? Never heard of it.], Today the first non-dev/beta user (@Schmuel) dual-booted his Vollaphone into UT from SD card, using the Android Boot Manager (ABM) being created by @nift4 and @Lukapanio. It's not quad-booting (yet), but making great progress. 👍
 @PiecerEdd [this cosmo communicator phone that I've shilled about 20 times this week in this …], I have apparently missed that everytime.
 😆
 @X YZ [Today the first non-dev/beta user (@Schmuel) dual-booted his Vollaphone into UT …], Very cool
 maybe ive been shilling it more in the overflow channel, dunno
 @PiecerEdd [maybe ive been shilling it more in the overflow channel, dunno], It looks like a laptop and a flip phone did the hibbity bibbity and that popped out 9 months later. Interesting device.
 yepp thats it hehe
 @X YZ [Today the first non-dev/beta user (@Schmuel) dual-booted his Vollaphone into UT …], yeah it works well so far! I am very grateful for the work that nift4 and luka have put in to get this up and running!
 @By brian All rights reserved [Guy from uk has volla and mobile don’t work we’re on EE], I'll test mine out when I'm next back in Scotland.
 @PiecerEdd [yepp thats it hehe], When it says Debian Linux OS is it referring to mobian or standard Debian?
 nahhh its debian debian
 has a KDE desktop
 @PiecerEdd [nahhh its debian debian], Oh wow
 which admittedly is bloody awful with a touchscreen
 Lol
 and bluetooth doesn't work on the debian boot so there's no mouse 😆 (though the outer display thingy acts as a trackpad in debian, which is handy but not brilliant)
 from what ive heard the bluetooth is being worked on by people much smarter than me so hopefully I'll be able to have a normal mouse at some point
 @dohbee [you must have UT recovery to get OTA], I ask to @Heng ye if it's possible. Thanks
 @NotKit [could you please send me an output of /usr/share/ofono/scripts/list-contexts fro …], I would love to be able to get my lavender to not have echoing audio on receiver's end for phone calls - are you working on this port as well?