| lotuspsychje | good morning | 02:57 |
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| lotuspsychje | https://9to5linux.com/meet-the-ubuntu-21-04-hirsute-hippo-artwork-by-sylvia-ritter-made-with-krita | 03:36 |
| lotuspsychje | lucky it fits on my screen :p | 03:37 |
| karmelsx | Hello | 03:51 |
| lotuspsychje | karmelsx: a liveusb should be slower then the physical install on ssd | 03:51 |
| karmelsx | i have 12gb of ram that is quickly consumed by ubuntu and i have a low-end processor. | 03:51 |
| lotuspsychje | usb speed vs sata | 03:51 |
| karmelsx | so i think the kde neon is a big improvement for me. | 03:51 |
| lotuspsychje | what cpu do you have? | 03:51 |
| karmelsx | because it runs significantly better on the usb drive than does my ubuntu on the ssd. | 03:51 |
| karmelsx | Intel Pentium 3805U 1.9 GHz | 03:52 |
| lotuspsychje | that doesnt make sense karmelsx | 03:52 |
| karmelsx | what doesn't make sense? | 03:52 |
| lotuspsychje | runs better from a live | 03:52 |
| karmelsx | the kde neon runs better on the usb drive than ubuntu runs on the installed ssd | 03:52 |
| karmelsx | ubuntu is using the latest gnome. i have the latest ubuntu installed, not the stable, but the latest 20 version. | 03:52 |
| karmelsx | so i think kde neon is significantly better for my hardware than normal ubuntu. | 03:53 |
| lotuspsychje | kde isnt known as being lightweight | 03:53 |
| lotuspsychje | and gnome these days likes more then 4GB ram | 03:54 |
| karmelsx | i have 12gb of ram. | 03:54 |
| karmelsx | "There is absolutely no reason to install it, since it uses the same package repositories as Ubuntu and you can transform any Ubuntu install into a Ubuntu MATE install." | 03:54 |
| karmelsx | how do i make my ubuntu into ubuntu mate, and is that a good idea vs installing ubuntu mate? | 03:54 |
| karmelsx | says about kde neon: "It's a really sparse, bare-bones system, no automatic driver install for example. It can be quite hard for someone not used to Linux." | 03:55 |
| karmelsx | yet when i plugged in my printer when testing kde neon on the usb, it detected it right away, and my printer is very old. | 03:55 |
| lotuspsychje | karmelsx: you can test any desktop flavour ontop an ubuntu base/flavour but if you like one, we usually reccomend to clean install it | 03:57 |
| karmelsx | so you think lubuntu is significantly better for lower end hardware than kde neon? | 03:57 |
| lotuspsychje | yes | 03:57 |
| karmelsx | i used to use ubuntu mate, and then along the way i moved to regular ubuntu. the ubuntu is nicer than ubuntu mate, but it's taxing my hardware too much. | 03:58 |
| karmelsx | which do you like better and why, lubuntu or ubuntu mate? | 03:58 |
| lotuspsychje | tweak your system yourself karmelsx | 03:58 |
| karmelsx | tweak it how? | 03:58 |
| lotuspsychje | i ran gnome on ubuntu for years with 2GB ram on an amd 3200+ | 03:58 |
| karmelsx | the gnome 3 seems the culprit with cpu and memory leaks. after i have the system running for a while, even when i close all the applications, it benefits from a fresh restart. | 03:58 |
| lotuspsychje | karmelsx: sudo apt install haveged preload stacer bleachbit | 03:59 |
| karmelsx | you don't think gnome leaks more memory and cpu than kde? | 03:59 |
| karmelsx | gnome is based largely on javascript from what i know. kde maybe is coded better? | 03:59 |
| lotuspsychje | karmelsx: tweak startup applications, disabled unwanted systemd services, uninstall unwanted packages, use light weight apps | 03:59 |
| karmelsx | i installed the bleachbit now | 04:01 |
| lotuspsychje | shred your system from junk files with stacer and bleachbit | 04:01 |
| karmelsx | seems quite a sophisticated tool for experts | 04:01 |
| karmelsx | what's a safe way to remove startup services? | 04:02 |
| karmelsx | why would unwanted packages i'm not using affect my daily performance? | 04:02 |
| lotuspsychje | karmelsx: depends on your use case | 04:02 |
| lotuspsychje | i disable cups from laptops that doesnt need printing for example | 04:03 |
| karmelsx | i need printing though | 04:03 |
| lotuspsychje | braille support... | 04:03 |
| karmelsx | this bleachbit seems mainly a cleaner | 04:03 |
| karmelsx | not sure how it's going to help my performance | 04:03 |
| lotuspsychje | every bit helps karmelsx | 04:03 |
| karmelsx | so what do you like, lubuntu or ubuntu mate and why? | 04:04 |
| karmelsx | not sure gnome 2 is better for me than gnome 3. | 04:05 |
| karmelsx | gnome 2 is really old. at least with kde neon i get the latest kde plasma code. | 04:05 |
| lotuspsychje | i like lubuntu best for older machines, but thats my opinion | 04:06 |
| lotuspsychje | a lot of users love mate and xubuntu aswell | 04:06 |
| karmelsx | what's better about xubuntu vs lubuntu? | 04:06 |
| lotuspsychje | gnome classic can also still be installed from the repos | 04:06 |
| lotuspsychje | personal likings karmelsx cant compare apples with pears | 04:07 |
| lotuspsychje | every flavours has pros and contras | 04:07 |
| karmelsx | are you a ubuntu dev? | 04:08 |
| lotuspsychje | no karmelsx im a volunteer helping a bit here and there | 04:16 |
| marcoagpinto | morning! | 04:48 |
| ducasse | good morning | 07:06 |
| lordievader | Good morning | 07:08 |
| lotuspsychje | puff: did you pick a flavour yet? | 11:44 |
| marcoagpinto | guys?! Is it tomorrow? 20.04.2? | 11:52 |
| marcoagpinto | I can't remember the day | 11:53 |
| lotuspsychje | marcoagpinto: lsb_release -a | 11:53 |
| marcoagpinto | what? | 11:53 |
| lotuspsychje | type it in your terminal | 11:54 |
| marcoagpinto | I don't have the VM runnin | 11:54 |
| marcoagpinto | I don't have the VM running | 11:54 |
| lotuspsychje | oh are you spying us from windows again ehh | 11:54 |
| marcoagpinto | I use Windows | 11:54 |
| marcoagpinto | my VMs are only to compile my app and visit dangerous sites | 11:55 |
| lotuspsychje | let me show you mine, Description:Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS | 11:55 |
| marcoagpinto | ahhhh | 11:55 |
| marcoagpinto | it is out then | 11:55 |
| marcoagpinto | good to know... thanks | 11:55 |
| marcoagpinto | Buaaaaaaaa... I don't want to go on holiday any more this year | 11:57 |
| marcoagpinto | because one needs to do the COVID test at work when we return | 11:57 |
| marcoagpinto | luckily it gave negative, but it is too much stress | 11:57 |
| Maik | marcoagpinto: 20.04.2 isos will be released on the 4th of february, tomorrow | 14:42 |
| marcoagpinto | ahhhh | 14:42 |
| marcoagpinto | cool | 14:42 |
| Maik | those running a LTS release are already on 20.04.2 because of the updates | 14:42 |
| marcoagpinto | I ran the VMs and they had .2 in the about window | 14:42 |
| marcoagpinto | :) | 14:42 |
| Maik | the daily builds of yesterday are being tested at the moment | 14:43 |
| Maik | Ubuntu MATE looks ready to go | 14:43 |
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