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pi0seriously lol00:05
pi0matsaman: here is another question, is it possible to text to my android phone from within linux00:14
jeremy31pi0: You might be able to text using email, do a search on your cell phone provider00:19
matsamanpi0: yes, but it'd be easier to use a messaging client00:21
matsamanpi0: like with a real, non-proprietary protocol00:21
matsamanlike jabber or the like00:21
matsamanthen you aren't at the mercy of your phone provider, its OS, and the telecom industry00:22
phillipsjkAccording to the log, my computer found and corrected an ECC error before it stopped working; not a good sign.00:22
matsamanphillipsjk: :/00:22
* phillipsjk has yet to look up the minimum storage temperature of board, GPU.00:23
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pi0ah i see00:32
pi0gsconnect?00:35
pi0matsaman: there are so many nice ins and outs00:39
pi0jeremy31: i was thinking some sort of integration with gnome00:39
pi0however matsaman i noticed when i do simple apt install like say minicom it ads a desktop icon, how do i remove some of these?00:40
matsamanpi0: probably just delete them from your file manager, or rm them from terminal00:41
matsamanotherwise it'll be in your desktop prefs somewhere00:42
matsamanmost likely, or it'll be nowhere easily accessible (which would suck and is pretty unlikely)00:42
ruediiThat is weird.  What is your desktop layout?  Is it possible you are putting the app menu on the layout?   Newly installed applications go in the recently used pane on that.00:46
ruediiYou might want to edit your desktop layout and see what widgets are on your desktop.  Generally I remove all widgets from my desktop.  I don't need them.  I just pin my commonly used apps to my task panel, and then access the rest through the keyword search.00:47
ruediiBTW, turn off all remote keyword search, and prune it's plugins.  It will make it much faster.  This goes for all desktops.  (Unity, GNOME, XFCE and KDE)00:48
ruediiXFCE is the only one that defaults most of them to off.00:48
ruediiKDE only has a few on that you don't need.00:48
ruediiUnity and GNOME are plain awful.00:49
puffI have a thinkpad t580 with ubuntu 18.04 LTS. It lives most of the time on my desk, with an external monitor plugged into the HDMI jack and a USB keyboard (plugged via a usb hub) and a logitech mouse (dongle plugged directly in).  Every now and then, like just now, I can't get the laptop to wake up by moving the mouse or tapping the keyboard keys.  I have to open the lid.  How do I get it to not do that?00:50
ruediipuff, do you know how to fetch the various logs from when it malfunctions like that?00:51
matsamanpuff: are you intending for it to actually be in sleep mode, but wake-up-able from your peripherals?00:52
ruediipuff, still, I'll go with the most likely cause for you to try.   The most likely cause is that it's going into deep sleep mode and not waking up from peripherals.00:52
puffruedii: I'm not sure what you mean by "fetch", if you mean do I know about /var/log/*, sure.00:52
ruediiYeah, that's what I mean.  Just using layman's term.00:52
puffmatsaman: It's plugged into the wall, so I'd like it to blank the screen and do whatever's appropriate re: conserving power and hardware life, but wake up immediately when I touch the keyboard or mouse.00:53
ruediiThe most likely cause is it's going into hybernate and not waking from USB peripherals.  You probably want to set it not to go into hybernate mode instead of normal sleep.00:53
matsamanpuff: so you want the _screen_ to "sleep", but not the operating system and hardware00:54
ruediiYou should be able to turn off hybernate mode when plugged in. That's basically when the system completely turns itself off, but creates a reload stub in memory.00:54
puffIn Settings/Power, it's set to "Automatic suspend" "When on Battery Power"00:54
ruediiYou should set the default suspend mode to light suspend (S1) instead of hybernated/off.00:55
puffruedii: Where do I set that?00:55
puffTyping "suspend" in the settings search input gets me nothing.00:55
puffUbuntu 18.04 LTS btw.00:55
ruediiWhy are you using such an old version?00:56
ruedii20.04 is the current.00:56
ruediiMany power save bugs were addressed in 20.0400:56
sarnoldpuff: I have a vague memory of hearing or seeing that different BIOS systems may have "wake on suspend" options to allow configuring USB to be handled or not. I can't promise this :) I almost never see the bios screens.. but it might be worth five minutes of looking00:57
puffsarnold: Thanks00:57
ruediiYes, I'd first try the BIOS before messing in power settings.  I also recommend updating to the latest LTS.00:58
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|izzieheya, leftyfb01:11
pi0shoot gsconnect does not seem to work nicely with 20.0401:25
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ruediipi0, you may need a new build for newer matching library versions.  That's a GStreamer program, right?01:49
ruediiSorry about the slow reply, was doing other stuff.01:49
pi0ruedii: no worries, not sure if it uses gstreamer, but i know its to connect android to linux01:51
pi0https://askubuntu.com/questions/1230155/ubuntu-20-04-gsconnect01:51
pi0now i am down this rabbit hole trying to find fixes01:51
pi0not exactly sure how to approach this issue01:52
ivan_on_tracWhich parameter to use to force update? sudo do-release-upgrade -> There is no development version of an LTS available01:55
ivan_on_trac20.04 to 20.1001:55
sarnoldivan_on_trac: /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades01:58
ivan_on_tracsarnold: I've already changed it to normal, however -> Upgrades to the development release are only01:59
k_szeAre there regularly updated stats somewhere about the usage of the various releases of Ubuntu (and other flavours like kubuntu, xubuntu, lubuntu)?02:03
k_szeI know there's the https://ubuntu.com/desktop/statistics page, but it doesn't break down by release.02:05
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supremekaihey guys, I'm trying to install ubuntu 20.04 and it gives me a warning about intel rst (I already have win 10 installed in the machine) - https://help.ubuntu.com/rst - Is this specific for ubuntu 20.04? I mean, if I try to install 18.04 will I have the same issue?02:24
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mihaelHow do I setup ppp on Ubuntu 18? I have this ppp config on Ubuntu16:https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9wz5YyBj6F/03:08
pyeverythinghey does anyone know how I could fix this PYTHONPATH problem in Ubuntu 20.04? https://stackoverflow.com/questions/66019925/test-failed-home-mona-local-lib-python3-8-site-packages-does-not-support-pt03:14
karmelsxWhich LIGHTWEIGHT distros do you recommend? I tried KDE NEON and it seemed to run significantly better on my low-end hardware.03:44
karmelsxI'm using normal Ubuntu now. Love everything about it except that it taxes my hardware too much.03:45
lotuspsychjekarmelsx: lubuntu, xubuntu,mate03:47
karmelsxare those lighter than kde neon?03:48
lotuspsychjeyes03:48
karmelsxsignificantly?03:49
lotuspsychjekarmelsx: every machine is different, also the user can tweak his own system the way he wants to perform better/faster/lighter03:49
karmelsxwell, i was running kde off the usb drive to try it out, and i noticed my system is taxed less, and i assume the difference is more pronounced when i have it actually installed on the ssd.03:50
karmelsxcorrect?03:50
karmelsxkde neon i mean.03:50
lotuspsychjekarmelsx: lets continue in #ubuntu-discuss03:50
karmelsxok, i went there.03:51
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tarelerulzHaving any  of you booted  Ubuntu 20.04 iso with  grub?05:00
sub526Hi all, when I tried to install a package via sudo apt install <pkg>, it prompt this message: "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem", what it means? But when I triggered 'sudo dpkg --configure -a', system goes to reboot.. What could be the issue?05:12
Bashing-omsub526: Maybe get more specific firectioon on how to procedd from the terminal command ' sudo dpkg -C ; that audits the packages.05:17
Bashing-omdirection*05:17
sub526Bashing-om: Shall I run   'sudo dpkg -C' instead of  'sudo dpkg --configure -a'?05:19
Bashing-omsub526: Affirmed - see what ' sudo dpkg -C ' reports.05:22
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sub526Bashing-om: 'sudo dpkg -C'  resulted "The following packages have been unpacked but not yet configured." "They must be configured using dpkg --configure or the configure"05:47
Bashing-omsub526: pastebin that output so I see all of it - then we see what we can do :D05:48
Bashing-om!pastebin | sub52605:48
ubottusub526: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.05:48
sub526Bashing-om: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Wn5k8Xf6d3/05:53
Bashing-omsub526: ack :D05:53
ssfdre38does anyone know how to increase the Multipass vm drive05:55
Bashing-omsub526: "hydra-drivers-dkms" raises a flag - what kernel version are you booting ' uname -r ' ?05:57
sub526Bashing-om: 4.4.0-66-generic05:58
jayjo-is there a way to list the packages considered "recommended" by an apt package? in particular for a ppa, so I'm not sure where to browse it on the web, is there an 'apt' command?05:59
Bashing-om!info linux-image-generic xenial05:59
ubottulinux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.4.0.201.207 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 16 kB05:59
jayjo-or, is there  way to get the recommended packages from a ppa?06:02
Bashing-omsub526: Yukkie-poo ^^ . Let us get you updated and then we what the haps be: ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ; sudo apt -f install ' . Maybe the package manager will fix it.06:04
sub526Bashing-om: sudo apt full-upgrade - does it updates the kernel too?06:20
Bashing-omsub526: Yup :D06:20
sub526Bashing-om: Oh, but I need to use 4.4.0-66-generic06:22
Bashing-omsub526: Then is above my skills to fix the broken dkms packages :(06:23
quemfresh 20.04 server install. /etc/resolv.conf points to a file that doesn't exist?! (../run/systemd/resolve/stub-resolv.conf)06:31
ruediiquem, are you sure you properly installed all the dependencies?   Double check.   Also, make sure that issue isn't a temporary self-fixing issue, where the file is overwritten when the network tools initialize the network devices.06:45
larsjooDo anyone know how it is possible for 20.04 to get 4? kernel updates in one month, and still have problems with DKMS for both Nvidia and Virtualbox?08:16
larsjooI also do not understand why an LTS release get a poorly tested kernel upgrade mid cycle..08:27
GwalennHi, by mistake I move my Vidéos/movies folder on my home. I tried to restore the link in Files, but place its name above the recycle bin (https://postimg.cc/87Dpjdwy) ?08:37
larsjooGwalenn: In you .config/user-dirs.dirs file you can relink08:53
Gwalennlarsjoo: thanks, i modify the file and restart08:58
TJ-Do we have a PAM or systemd-logind way to enable autologin ?09:09
Gwalennhi, when you make a incremental archive with  : folder.tar,folder_update1.tar, folder_update2.tar , and you want to restore the up to date folder, you restore from folder_update2.tar or you need to restore one by one : folder.tar, folder_updatexx ?09:24
larsjooGwalenn: If you look at the -x option in "man tar" it looks like you can specify what to extract09:33
cousteauHi, is the sudo bug patched?  How can I know if my system is affected or if it's already patched?10:05
cousteauI ran updates as soon as I read about the bug, but I don't know if they included the patch10:06
ThinkT510cousteau: https://ubuntu.com/security/notices/USN-4705-110:08
cousteauthanks :)10:08
cousteauok so I need sudo version 1.8.21p2-3ubuntu1.4, which is available through bionic-updates and bionic-security (but not in "plain" bionic), and which happens to be the one I have installed, fortunately.  Thanks!10:14
cousteau(I guess "bionic" is "whatever comes with the installer, untouched, no updates" and "bionic-security" means "only the extremely important updates")10:15
cousteauwhereas "bionic-updates" means "other updates, which are shipped separately for whatever reasons; probably legal or stability or whatever"10:16
TJ-cousteau: you can check the changelog of almost every package locally, which will reveal recent changes and their date, by using: "less /usr/share/doc/${PKG_NAME}/changelog.Debian.gz" where in this case "PKG_NAME=sudo"10:44
cousteauthanks!10:46
TJ-those changelogs are gzip compressed but usually less has been primed to pipe them through gunzip. If less complaines, you would do this first: "eval $(lesspipe)" which sets the environment variables for 'less'10:47
cousteauyeah I've seen less doing smart stuff with gzip and pdf and even doc10:48
cousteauI could also use zless directly, but in my experience `less` tends to work better and handle all the weird things for me10:48
* TJ- thinks more is less :)10:49
TJ-hang on ... less is more!10:49
cousteauTJ-: I thought they were different executables11:05
HamidrezaHi, I've changed home directory for my user before changing home directory my shell was colorfull but now when I'm connecting to server it has no color, What should I do for this problem?11:48
HamidrezaI do this by this command : sudo vipw11:48
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choggHello.  I've been running 20.10 since it was released (and older versions for many years) on a Dell XPS 13 (9343).  Through yesterday, I had it configured to sleep if I shut the lid or left it idle for an hour on battery power.  Today I am finding that if I shut the lid or let idle even 1 *minute* it does not sleep but shuts down entirely.  I13:05
chogghaven't made any intentional configuration changes.  My battery is nearly fully charged, and runs just fine as long as I don't let it idle.  I don't remember whether or not there were any updates that I applied yesterday.  Has anyone else reported this problem?13:05
choggActually, glancing through syslog makes it seem like it is successfully going to sleep when the lid is closed, but failing to return from sleep?  Shortly after opening the lid I get messages in syslog like "ACPI: EC: interrupt blocked", "ACPI: Preparing to enter system sleep state S3", "ACPI: EC: event blocked", and "ACPI: EC: EC stopped".  But13:18
choggthat doesn't explain what's happening after a minute of idle time.13:18
Davidian1024hey group, i've been running into an issue with the ubuntu vagrant base box and i was hoping someone might be able to give me some advice.13:21
Davidian1024the base ubuntu vagrant base box comes without any gui installed, and i'm adding it as that's something i need13:22
Davidian1024i should mention i'm running this underl oracle virtualbox on a windows 10 laptop13:23
Davidian1024the issue is that when i install the gui and then install virtualbox additions for things like integrated copy/paste and graphics acceleration, i run into stability issues13:24
Davidian1024resizing the virtual desktop is the one i run into most often.  once i do that the graphics are typically frozen, or moving as slow as what seems to be 1 frame maybe every 30 seconds13:25
Davidian1024but the box is not crashed, i can ssh into it and shut it down usually13:25
Davidian1024i'm wondering if there's additional software i need to be installing13:25
Davidian1024i had only installed the ubuntu-desktop-minimal meta package, a few packages required by oracle virtualbox additions, and the oracle virtualbox additions itself13:26
BluesKajHi folks13:27
Davidian1024everything works as i would expect if i manually create a VM under oracle virtualbox using the ubuntu iso13:27
Vonorhi. kde user here. i'm using thunderbird and evolution as mail clients.in kde default apps evolution is set as default mail client. mailto: links are opened by thunderbird. can't find the place to change that.13:43
pavlosVonor: would that be in your browser preferences? (FF has a mailto: what to do)13:46
ThinkT510probably an xdg setting to change the default13:46
Vonoromg, browser was the last place i would have looked at. i also thought it's an xdg setting i was unable to find.13:47
Vonorthanks a bunch! :)13:48
ThinkT510man xdg-mime13:49
zen_coderdoes anybody have some good tutorials for file access in a new mounted hard disk? I think I need to create a new group so that everybody in this group can access the hard disk13:55
lotuspsychje!chmod13:59
ubottuAn explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions13:59
zen_coderI have added my self to a group which should have now read access to a dir14:07
zen_coderhow can I trigger that it will get active?14:07
leftyfbzen_coder: umount the drive and remount14:16
leftyfbzen_coder: what you should be doing is mounting the drive with the proper permissions14:16
quemi fail to mount an 8tb drive using its uuid, but if i point to its device file it works fine. any ideas?14:19
zen_coderleftyfb: how can I mount a drive with right permission?14:19
leftyfbquem: wrong uuid?14:19
quemusing the uuid blkid gave me14:19
zen_coderthe drive is ext4 and has already data on it14:20
zen_coderI recreated a group with the id mentioned in the disk folders and files14:20
quemleftyfb: /dev/sdg1: UUID="9ecaf270-547e-4dfe-b547-8a156171e50a" TYPE="ext4" PARTLABEL="primary" PARTUUID="bbd08b5e-d9f3-4dec-b70d-075c870b9d0f"14:21
quemtried the first uuid now. works.14:21
quempartuuid before...14:21
leftyfbzen_coder: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions#Editing_Ubuntu.27s_filesystem_table14:21
zen_coderleftyfb: sorry, cannot find anything in there how to mount the hard disk with certain access14:26
leftyfbzen_coder: it's uid and gid14:27
philectroin the wiki page of raspberrypi at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RaspberryPi#Root_resize14:27
philectrothe information is outdated14:27
philectronow it's autoresized14:28
zen_coderleftyfb: I have add in `/etc/fstab` following `/dev/sdb1    /media/newhdd    ext4    defaults    0    0`14:29
leftyfbzen_coder: https://superuser.com/questions/430707/how-do-i-configure-fstab-so-that-a-partition-can-be-used-by-different-users-simu14:30
zen_coder`/dev/sdb1    /media/mbition-icui    ext4    gid=28563    0    0` is this correct?14:32
leftyfbzen_coder: did you try it?14:33
zen_codernot yet saved the file14:34
zen_coderhow can I trigger a new mount, without restarting?14:34
leftyfbzen_coder: unmount it and remount it again14:34
leftyfbzen_coder: "umount" will unmount, "mount -a" will mount everything from fstab14:35
zen_coderleftyfb: `mount: /media/newhddi: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1, missing codepage or helper program, or other error.`14:38
lotuspsychje!arm | philectro14:41
ubottuphilectro: ARM is a specific (RISC) processor architecture used in a variety of applications such as handhelds and networkdevices. For more information see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM . For ARM specific support, stop by the #ubuntu-arm channel.14:41
lotuspsychjephilectro: maybe someone there might ring some bells14:41
leftyfbzen_coder: https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/20464914:41
philectrookay14:42
zen_coderleftyfb: `/dev/sdb1    /media/newhdd    ext4    defaults,gid=28563    0    0` still the same error14:48
zen_coderjust with defaults, it works14:48
leftyfbzen_coder: grep 28563 /etc/group14:49
zen_coder`mygroup:x:28563:myuser`14:50
zen_codermaybe I need this umask?14:51
leftyfbzen_coder: try only umask, leave out the gid14:53
zen_coderumask, with which value?14:58
zen_coderleftyfb:?14:59
philectrowhat is showing the welcome message after ssh login ?15:05
philectromaybe i badly looked but i don't see that in bashrc15:06
viktor_hi, can anyone give me some suggestions on how to make my internal mic work? using kubuntu 18.04, lenovo y700. sound setting is showing "build-in analogue stereo"15:07
philectroviktor_: you must set the priority on the right device in the kde settings audio panel :)15:09
philectrojust need some click15:10
philectrocat /etc/update-motd.d/ contains my answer15:10
philectro(not for you viktor_ )15:10
viktor_philectro: there's no default, there's only one input. actually, my headphones (bluetooth) have a mic, but that's not recognized15:11
zen_codercan anybody help me with setting up a shared hard disk on ubuntu?15:25
zen_coderso I have mounted a hard disk where every body can read/write who is in a certain group. How can I make sure that people who create files inside this disk, can be read by others in the group?15:25
zen_coderIve read about primary and 2nd groups15:26
Mordocquit15:36
MordocSorry folks, wrong window.15:36
locsmif_worknever give up15:37
locsmif_workzen_coder: how is this disk accessed?15:38
locsmif_workzen_coder: NFS?15:38
locsmif_workzen_coder: for NFS, see: https://serverfault.com/questions/240897/how-to-properly-set-permissions-for-nfs-folder-permission-denied-on-mounting-en15:43
zen_coderlocsmif_work: I have ext416:11
locsmif_workzen_coder: so how are you sharing this file system?16:21
locsmif_workzen_coder: in that case, use newgrp for every user so they share a group16:22
locsmif_workzen_coder: default umask should be 0002, so no biggie?16:24
locsmif_workOr better yet, change /etc/passwd for each participating user16:26
locsmif_workzen_coder: or better yet, use the setgid bit16:27
locsmif_workhttps://linuxconfig.org/how-to-use-special-permissions-the-setuid-setgid-and-sticky-bits16:27
locsmif_workAnybody any idea why I cannot disconnect from my bluetooth speakers? Nor can I remove the device. Meaning I can't ever restore the failing connecting. The speaker is not at fault, it works again after I reboot and I've never had these issues with other Linux version, Windows, or smartphones16:38
locsmif_works/connecting/connection/16:38
regedithello, please help trying to apt-get install php7.4-sqlite316:59
regeditphp7.4-sqlite3 : Depends: php7.4-common (= 7.4.3-4ubuntu2.4) but 7.4.10-1+ubuntu18.04.1+deb.sury.org+1 is to be installed16:59
oerheksregedit, try apt install -f ??17:00
oerheksor run updates properly, sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade17:00
regeditdoing now...17:00
oerheksmaybe that ppa is bugging, https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php7.4/7.4.3-4ubuntu2.417:03
regeditfinished full-upgrade, still same error17:03
regeditanything i can do about such bugging? any way to "repair" or re-install the ppa or something?17:03
regediti'm not sure if i might or might not have ondrej sury ppa maybe17:05
oerheksno, contact that ppa maintainer? this is beyond our power17:05
regeditif ubuntu default ppas already caught up to PHP 7.4 and such, maybe i can switch away from it 🤔17:06
oerheksyes, indeed.17:06
oerheksuse ppa-purge to revert pakages17:06
regedithow do i switch away from it? safely install everything from that ppa without horribly breaking everything, and then get it all back from ubuntu repos17:07
regeditsafely *uninstall17:07
oerheks!ppapurge17:07
ubottuTo disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html17:07
oerheksi think you used ppa:ondrej/php    https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/ubuntu/php/17:08
faLUKEhelllo. When trying to start jack with qjackctl, it says:  "ATTENTION: The playback device "hw:PCH,0" is already in use. Please stop the application using it and run JACK again" . How can I fix this? thanks17:10
regeditthanks oerheks will try that now17:16
regeditoerheks: hm "Warning:  Could not find package list for PPA: ondrej php"17:17
lotuspsychjefaLUKE: related? https://askubuntu.com/questions/224151/jack-server-could-not-be-started-when-using-qjackctl17:17
zen_coder locsmif_work: but how can I make sure when users are creating new files on the hard disk the others in the group can read that file?17:19
oerhekszen_coder, with ACL ? https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-manage-acls-on-linux17:22
faLUKElotuspsychje: I tried both the solution in your link, but could not solve17:22
regeditoerheks: might i not have other ppas after all? http://sprunge.us/GSWDq217:22
lotuspsychjefaLUKE: some other process is using your soundcard or something?17:23
regeditoerheks: that's the output from apt-cache policy17:23
faLUKElotuspsychje: I don't know how to check this17:24
oerheksregedit, weird, the only foreign ppa is https://cli-assets.heroku.com/apt17:26
regeditah right17:26
regeditbut i think that one's totally unrelated, just for heroku cli17:26
oerheksapt-cache policy php7.4-common17:26
oerheksthat should give a clue17:27
regedithttp://sprunge.us/MMKPCp17:27
oerhekswhen i look for 'php7.4-common 7.4.10-1+ubuntu18.04.1+deb.sury.org+1' it surely points to that ppa.. did you remove it in sources.list.d ?17:28
regediti dont think i edited anything there... lemme grep17:28
regeditaha http://sprunge.us/7Dy0bU17:29
regeditthis was at some point updated from 18.04 to 20.04 i think, maybe something left over?17:30
oerhekscorrect, ppa's will be disabled17:31
oerheksre-add them again?17:31
lotuspsychjefaLUKE: fuser -v /dev/snd/*17:31
regeditahh17:31
oerheksso this is a fresh upgrade?17:31
regeditoerheks: only by re-adding it can i then purge it and revert to default ubuntu ppas only?17:31
oerheksyes17:31
regeditgotcha 👌 ok trying now thanks17:31
oerhekssudo apt-add-repository ppa:ondrej/php && sudo apt update17:32
oerheksypu might want to stick with that ppa, and continue what youwere doing?17:32
faLUKElotuspsychje: nothing returned17:32
faLUKElotuspsychje: sorry17:33
faLUKElotuspsychje: with sudo I see timidity17:33
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lotuspsychjefaLUKE: ah, try to purge timidity-deamon?17:33
regeditoerheks: well unless default ubuntu repos have what i need? 🤷‍♂️ i think back in 18.04 i wanted latest php 7 but ubuntu repos were still stuck back a little17:33
faLUKElotuspsychje: right, thanks! meanwhile I disinstalled qjackctl, I have to install it again17:34
regeditoh wow apparently php 8 is a thing now 🤔 maybe i will stick to ondrej...17:37
shinobi_I keep losing sound because Ubuntu will change the sound card used for audio output to my USB sound interface. It seems to do this randomly. I want it to use my MB sound card for output all the time. Is there any way to lock it?17:46
mbbsddo any of you guys know why ubuntu 20.04 with GDM doesn't read ~/.xsession?17:54
andiHey, I'd like to install ubuntu 20.04 using autoinstall. Can somebody tell me what's needed on the kernel line to set a static ip before fetching the autoinstall.yml?17:54
jhartog@shinobi_ Have you tried fixing it with pactl? https://askubuntu.com/a/120763817:55
faLUKElotuspsychje: I purged the timidity daemon, but problem remains18:04
faLUKEwell, I try to upgrade the release18:15
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vmaxIs it possible and if so, howto to make a new Install from current ubuntu server  to new  separate hdd?18:25
syb0rghi, is there anyway to make apt install the info pages for id-utils? I came across the concept of a corresponding -doc package for this type of issue, but none seems to exist for id-utils18:26
syb0rgvmax, can you access the storage device of that server without it running?18:29
syb0rgif so you can duplicate the partitioning scheme, formatting and UUIDs of the original server, copy files and I believe it should work. Or just dd old to new if the new device is big enough (easier but time consuming and worse option)18:30
syb0rgif not, you can copy the filesystem live, but that is not likely to result in a stable new system. In fact it is an all around bad idea :-)18:31
syb0rgwould it not be easier to simply make a new install and duplicate any needed files and configuration from the old machine?18:31
vmaxsyb0rg, I have new hdd on the same server18:34
syb0rgOkay. Can you boot to a live image on your server? If so, you can try either of the two approached I mentioned18:35
syb0rgand please back up any critical data before attempting anything, or proceed at your own risk18:36
vmaxI can, but would have preferred to install without restarting the server yet18:36
syb0rgand you are trying to duplicate the current install with all existing files and configuration, right?18:37
vmaxno,  need fresh install on the new hdd18:37
syb0rgoh I see18:38
phillipsjkSo I tried to run an mprime memory stress test on my machine, but the computer went into suspend mode invalidating the results. Have not been able to find a configuration option to disable that in XFCE.18:38
syb0rgvmax there should be methods that would work here, let me try and rememver the tool you need. I think I have done something similar once18:38
phillipsjkWould disabling screen locking work?18:38
vmaxThought first that it could be possible to run installer, but seems to require a little bit different take on this18:39
syb0rgvmax the tool for your situation is debootstrap18:40
syb0rggoogle something like install ubuntu with debootstrap18:40
syb0rgthere are guides for you18:40
vmaxok, thanks. I'll be back with an update and most likely some questions18:41
syb0rgno guarantee I will have the answers as I have only done this once, and with a step-by-step guide. But if I am still here then I will try and help =P18:41
* phillipsjk tries setting screen blanking/locking to "never"18:45
syb0rgphillipsjk, you have also looked in power settings to ensure suspend after x minutes is disabled?18:45
phillipsjkNo power settings widget18:46
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phillipsjkThe settings I changed are in "Light Locker Settings".18:47
syb0rgI would imagine disabling screen locking is your best bet then probably. What version of Ubuntu are you on?18:47
phillipsjk20.x18:47
syb0rgok. there was a long-standing xfce4 bug that prevented screen-blanking settings in the GUI from working, but IIRC that was fixed in 20.0418:48
phillipsjksyb0rg, may have to look into that.18:49
phillipsjkI have to go, will see if computer is susptendfed when I get back.18:50
syb0rgok good luck. If that doesn't work these are the notes I made for myself regarding the workaround for that bug phillipsjk https://termbin.com/7bs918:51
vmaxIs there a way to set the minimum to maximum  screen brightnessrange  in XFCE, while running power widget and redshift?18:52
regediti like susptendfed tho18:52
vmaxxrandr works and I can make the screen darker, but either power widget or redshift sets it back again18:53
syb0rgvmax I haven't messed with backlight stuff much, but what do you see in /sys/class/backlight?18:59
syb0rgmy suspicion is there will be a file in there that changes when the backlight level does. So one thing you could do is write a systemd unit that monitors whatever file that may be, and sets the backlight to your desired level whenever it changes.19:01
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syb0rgother than that, figure out how to disable backlight brightness control in all programs you don't want controlling it19:03
syb0rgthat's only my spitball attempt at a solution, I'm not suggesting it is necessarily the best way to go =P19:03
lthow to install run ubuntu installer from iso file to a slave hdd while on debian host machine?19:15
ltis it doable?19:15
oerhekslt, maybe, but weird. just boot the iso and choose that slave as target19:16
syb0rglt funny you should ask, someone else just had a similar question. Your best bet would be to use debootstrap rather than running the installer19:23
syb0rgI don't think being on a debian host would preclude you from installing ubuntu to the other disk but I'm not very familiar with that tool or its use19:25
syb0rgyou could also potentially make a kvm virtual machine that uses that disk as its storage device and install from there, although how easy that would be I am not sure. Also, Ubuntu would install itself configured for the VM and you may need to change some stuff to boot to it bare metal, but probably not too much if anything, I'd guess19:27
syb0rgthat is a weird and hacky approach though, debootstrap would be better if it can work here19:28
syb0rgunless I misunderstood your question, which I think I might have. My answer were about installing the second drive while you are booted to the first.19:31
syb0rg*installing to19:31
oerheksjust make sure that you install the bootloader on the right device..19:35
DocMorshas anyone a suggestion for an easy to use pdf editor, for filling in forms and signing.19:37
vmaxsyb0rg, /sys/class/backlight/amdgpu_bl119:52
vmaxlt, syb0rg, I also thought about virtual machine to do the trick. Still making some research though. Might wait for reboot period to make the install on separate drive19:56
phillipsjklooks like my computer is still awake after more than an hour.19:59
Sven_vBWhen I play MineTest 5.3.0-ppa0~ubuntu20.04.1 on Ubuntu focal on a Lenovo D330 81H3, after a few hours, USB for the docking station fails with "usb usb1-port5: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?" however, a reboot reliably fixes the problem, and without MineTest, the computer runs for weeks without problems. any ideas how to debug it further?20:01
lordcirthSven_vB, does your laptop get hot when playing? Do you run anything else that stresses it?20:04
Sven_vBno additional programs that wouldn't have run in the comparison weeks. I'll check if I can get temperature data.20:05
Sven_vBI couldn't find sensor data. I'll try and run something else that stresses the GPU. thanks for the idea :)20:20
zleaphello20:39
javi404my bios got reset because i had to see if i had a bad memory stick, now something is complete screwed up20:41
javi404ubuntu 20.0420:41
javi404either there is a bug in chrome20:41
javi404or something i missed in the bios20:41
javi404had to turn off hardware accelartion in chrome20:41
javi404has anyone run into this?20:41
zleapi came in ehre as a user in #thunderbird is having issues with thunderbird having just upgraded20:42
TJ-zleap: 68x to 78.x ?20:42
henry8that's me probably20:43
zleapTJ-, YES20:43
zleapyes20:43
henry8lost years of emails on a recent software update, 1 February20:43
TJ-As soon as I heard of the 78 package upgrade I pinned 68.x :)20:44
henry8don't know where they are and can't even find them in my duplicity backups going back almost one year20:44
henry8what's "pinned"20:44
TJ-henry8: I pinned the thunderbird package via APT preferences20:44
TJ-henry8: what 'email' account type is it, IMAP4 ?20:44
leftyfbzleap: how did you update?20:45
Sven_vBhenry8, really lost the mail, or just created a new profile and forgot the old profile's location?20:45
henry8i think all my email accounts are imap20:45
zleapi am using debian20:45
leftyfbit's probably a new profile, which is an issue when installing from snap as it's a new location20:45
leftyfb:/20:45
henry8i didn't create a new profile20:45
zleaphenry8, has the issue with lost e-mails20:45
leftyfb!debian | zleap20:45
ubottuzleap: Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See https://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/ubuntu-and-debian - !Repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!20:45
zleapi came in here as I figured the issue henry8 was having could be more of a ubuntu issue20:46
henry8so the story is, 1 February software update when i turned my computer on20:46
henry8usually I just let it run as I20:46
henry8as I've never had problems in my ubuntu history20:46
leftyfboh20:46
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TJ-henry8: can you see the IMAP accounts with "ls -latr ~/.thunderbird/*.default/ImapMail/"20:47
leftyfbhenry8: how did you update thunderbird?20:47
javi404this issue is not chrome, the sluggishness is affecting discord, and even virtual studio code.20:47
henry8there was  some sort of warning about incompatibility with the new thunderbird but being an idiot i plowed ahead20:47
javi404so sluggish can't even program in code20:47
javi404had to write html in a text editor this morning20:47
javi404did a recent update break somelthing?20:47
henry8new thunderbird turned out to be a snap.io package, version 7820:48
javi404what can I do to diagnose, help, report bugs?20:48
ThinkT510!info thunderbird bionic20:48
ubottuthunderbird (source: thunderbird): Email, RSS and newsgroup client with integrated spam filter. In component main, is optional. Version 1:68.10.0+build1-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 (bionic), package size 42454 kB, installed size 176986 kB20:48
henry8no emails, no filters, no contacts... nothing20:48
javi404henry8: I would steer clear of snap packages for anything important for now.20:49
javi404but that's just MHO20:49
javi404IMHO*20:49
ThinkT510!info thunderbird focal20:49
henry8agreed jav20:49
ubottuthunderbird (source: thunderbird): Email, RSS and newsgroup client with integrated spam filter. In component main, is optional. Version 1:68.10.0+build1-0ubuntu0.20.04.1 (focal), package size 41730 kB, installed size 174292 kB20:49
Sven_vBoh does it mean as long as I manage to avoid snapd, I don't need to care about my thunderbird version?20:49
henry8i uninstalled the thunderbird snap and reinstall thunderbird via apt so I'm back to version 6820:49
leftyfbjavi404: please don't20:50
leftyfbhenry8: hold in, I have a fix for you20:50
henry8still can't use my old .thunderbird folder though20:50
leftyfbhenry8: please hold20:50
javi404leftyfb: ?20:50
henry8leftyfb, i'm all ears20:50
javi404please dont what?20:50
leftyfbjavi404: don't suggest people stay clear of a completely viable package manager20:50
javi404leftyfb: fair enough, but let's be honest, if we are running bleading edge software, we are the beta testers, and qa, and im ok with that.20:51
ThinkT510to be fair he did get a warning and ignored it20:51
leftyfbhenry8: snap has been around for years, it's not bleeding edge20:51
javi404what i really want to do, is figure out, why hardware acceleration is broken at the moment.20:51
javi404leftyfb: true20:51
javi404but that depends on timeframe20:52
leftyfbhenry8: close thunderbird, then run :   rm -rf ~/snap/thunderbird/common/.thunderbird ; rsync -av ~/.thunderbird/ ~/snap/thunderbird/common/.thunderbird/20:52
javi404not disagreeing, i use snap20:52
javi404what can i do to diagnose my VS Code issue?20:53
henry8lefty, i can try that but don't have a "common" folder in under my snap folder20:53
javi404i mean if I can't code in ubuntu anymore, this is not good at the moment.20:54
javi404i guess i can in a vm but thats annoying20:54
leftyfbhenry8: ls -l ~/snap/thunderbird/20:54
henry8not sure that did anything: rsync error: some files/attrs were not transferred20:56
zen_coderhow can I share the same password for a samber user and the linux user?20:57
leftyfbhenry8:  ls -l ~/snap/thunderbird/  # when you run this, you don't get any rsult?20:57
leftyfbhenry8: can you pastebin the output?20:57
YounderO,k took a Xavier AGX and mounted in on a Auvidea  X220 card. Needed to enable the USB ports. The default procedure from Auvida was rubbish.. Replace the kernel and the device tree and then install the kernel module. Take them to school and introduce Dynamic Kernel Module System (DKMS).20:57
henry8yeah, "no file or directory" but like i said, there is no "common" folder in my snap/thunderbird directory20:58
leftyfbhenry8: you have no ~/.snap/thunderbird directory?20:59
leftyfbhenry8: can you pastebin the output of ls -l ~/snap/thunderbird20:59
henry8there is a folder "47" and a symlink to "current --> 109" which i haven't been able to locate yet20:59
leftyfbhenry8: what version of ubuntu are you running?21:00
YounderBitch of a job, but now the system has updated 4.5 OS and the kernel is up to date and will remin so and till the USB ports work.21:00
henry8i have the snap/thunderbird folder in my home directory but nothing in it other than the two listings previously described21:00
leftyfbhenry8: ok, try creating the common directory and rsync'ing21:01
YounderThe Zed USB-3 camera works. And we can finally start to do some serious AI.21:01
leftyfbhenry8: mkdir ~/.snap/thunderird/common && rsync -av ~/.thunderbird/ ~/snap/thunderbird/common/.thunderbird/21:01
henry8will do21:02
eelstreborheh, interesting, i had a vlc icon pop up in the dashboard. turns out to be an system update notification - how could this happen?21:03
henry8done but with snap not .snap... yeah?21:05
henry8my mistake, you are saying it should be a .snap?21:05
leftyfbhenry8: no, ~/snap/21:05
leftyfbsorry, my bad21:05
leftyfbit should be ~/snap, not ~/.snap21:06
henry8no worries, that's what i thought21:06
ThinkT510also mind the typo in the first thunderbird21:06
leftyfbbah, sorry, doing actual work at the same time21:06
henry8so i have ~/snap/thunderbird/common/21:06
leftyfbyeah21:06
henry8done, empty common folder21:07
leftyfbhenry8: ls -al ~/snap/common/thunderbird/21:07
YounderIs you ask me snaps are a ugly and memory expensive solution to code stability. Those loop-backs are driving me crazy.21:07
henry8yep, my common folder is 776 owned by me21:07
leftyfbhenry8: notice the ls -al21:08
henry8yep...21:08
leftyfbhenry8: the thunderbird directory is hidden since it starts with a .   the common directory shouldn't be empty21:08
henry8i didn21:09
henry8i didn't create the .thunderbird under common... one sec21:09
leftyfbno21:09
leftyfbhenry8: if it's empty, then the rsync didn't happen(correctly)21:09
henry8no?21:09
henry8let me run rsync again21:09
leftyfbhenry8: rsync -av ~/.thunderbird/ ~/snap/thunderbird/common/.thunderbird/21:10
henry8that did something, .thunderbird is there now21:11
leftyfbok, open thunderbird21:11
henry8oops, don't know if i mentioned that i downgraded back to the old version of thunderbird, i'm assuming what you are teaching me is a way to import the old school .thunderbird data into the snap package...?21:13
leftyfb:/21:13
leftyfbyes21:13
leftyfbinstall the snap package21:13
henry8i'll have to install the snap21:13
henry8but, strangely, even after downgrading back to thunderbird 68 I'm still unable to use my original .thunderbird for recovery21:14
henry8maybe that's for a different session : )21:14
pyeverythinghow can I ssh to GCP VM that is an Ubuntu image from Ubuntu 20.04 terminal?21:14
leftyfbpyeverything: ssh user@ip.address21:15
pyeverythingI have the external ip address how do I find the user? leftyfb21:18
henry8lefty... i really appreciate all your help, i have to run now, taxi service for my kids... I think the rsync thing you did is the way to go but I'll have to try when i get back21:18
leftyfbpyeverything: that's a GCP question unrelated to Ubuntu21:18
henry8really appreciated and will come back to let you know how it turned out21:18
henry8surprised the the software update didn't do this automatically instead of starting me off with a brand new thunderbird install21:19
leftyfbhenry8: I had the same issue21:19
henry8talk at you soon21:20
oerheksmore a Q for #gcp ??21:20
leftyfboerheks: exactly21:21
oerheksssh client is installed, s21:21
leftyfbpyeverything: those GCP VM's are custom images with settings we do not know or control. You'll have to seek the GCP documentation for the default credentials21:21
pyeverythingdo you know why this command is stuck? mona@goku:~$ sudo snap install google-cloud-sdk ???21:24
pyeverythingIt doesn't ask for a password or do anything I CTRL+C 'd a couple times mona@goku:~$ sudo snap install google-cloud-sdk21:24
oerheksseems like you have ssh access now?21:25
oerheksbut without root priv.21:25
pyeverythingI am trying to setup GCP client but this package I am installing on my local machine got stuck in installation oerheks21:25
oerheksoh oke, local.21:26
pyeverythingI cannot restart machine since I have been running a code since last night oerheks21:26
oerhekssudo snap install google-cloud-sdk --classic > https://snapcraft.io/google-cloud-sdk21:26
oerheksoh, is dat code running as root too?21:26
pyeverythingroot      177315  0.0  0.0  11572  4280 pts/2    T    16:22   0:00 sudo snap install google-cloud-sdk21:27
oerheksinteresting..why are you instaling stuff while running important code..21:27
pyeverythingfixed with kill -921:27
pyeverythingerror: This revision of snap "google-cloud-sdk" was published using classic confinement and thus21:27
pyeverything       may perform arbitrary system changes outside of the security sandbox that snaps are usually21:27
pyeverything       confined to, which may put your system at risk.21:27
leftyfb!paste | pyeverything21:28
ubottupyeverything: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.21:28
Sven_vBif my USB problems were heat problems, should I expect USB starts to work again when my netbook is idle for a few hours?21:30
YounderI have never experienced USB heat problems. You seem to be backing the wrong horse.21:40
oerheksi would suspect dockingstation, more likely21:42
pyeverythingwhere in GCP should I dump my ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub if I already have created my instance?21:50
leftyfbpyeverything: I use ~/.ssh/authorized_keys21:52
Sven_vBYounder, yeah I'm skeptical about that, too. especially because a reboot reliably fixes it for another few hours of playing. but I strive to investigate all ideas.21:52
shinobi_is an iso the same as img?21:52
admin0hi all .. if i have a disk /dev/sdb .. how to detect what filesystem is it .. or if its even formatted21:52
Sven_vBhowever, while booting undocket to exclude that as a problem I discovered the touch screen isn't detected as an input device anymore. so now I'm debugging that first.21:53
admin0lsblk shows the disk .. but i know you can also directly mkfs /dev/sdb .. so checking for partitions is not what i am looking for21:53
admin0i want to know if there is a tool that can detect if a disk is formatted and if it has a filesystem in it21:53
Sven_vBadmin0, there are partition editors to check whether it has a partition table. most of them can also identify some file systems.21:55
Sven_vBadmin0, for detecting file systems not in a partition, there was another, I'll check21:56
javi404any idea where to start diagnosing hardware / gpu / driver issues.21:57
Sven_vBadmin0, wipefs can scan for file system signatures, and kill them if desired.21:57
javi404helllo21:57
pyeverythingfigured had to add to metadata in gcp leftyfb21:59
Sven_vBturns out, it's definitely about the docking station. USB only gives 4.6 volts.22:04
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