[00:00] <wxl> that's the right thing to do in these cases where it fails to build on the arch?
[00:00] <RikMills> wxl: Ubuntu buildds differ from debians in some respects. hardware, optimisation, just some different versions of core libs
[00:01] <wxl> ok
[00:01] <wxl> now i just need to find the right way to do this
[00:01] <RikMills> carrying a symbols delta to debian on armhf/ppc64el/s390x is not an unusual thing for KDE packages 
[00:04] <wxl> @RikMills: do you offhand know of an example?
[00:04] <wxl> cuz the docs aren't really helping me XD
[00:05] <wxl> oh maybe i just copy the whole symbols file to symbols.s390x and just remove that line
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[00:08] <wxl> `man deb-src-symbols` now i see
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[00:12] <wxl> i think it's actually (arch=!s390x|c++)
[00:15] <RikMills> I need to fix that pavucontrol-qt. I did not realise debian lxqt team were so incompetent when I merged
[00:15] <wxl> yeah no kidding
[00:16] <wxl> this gets back to what i was saying before: we should just build from our own ci or upstream itself and just ignore debian
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[00:23] <RikMills> yeah, I am used to the KDE debian team, who are not perfect, but light years better than lxqt it seems
[00:23] <wxl> well i'm not even sure who the debian lxqt team is now
[00:23] <wxl> alf had some experience but he's disappeared
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[00:24] <wxl> you would think though that with debian's high bar to entry that it would weed out the chaff
[00:25] <wxl> huh i thought a new build would supercede the old one
[00:26] <RikMills> I think any 'high bar' in some areas leaves room for some to 'duck under' in others
[00:26] <wxl> i probably shold have asked release to drop it and uploaded a new one with the same version number shouldn't i?
[00:28] <wxl> oh nevermind it got figured out somehow XD
[00:28] <RikMills> Once the archive accepts a version, it is 'burned' AFAIK 
[00:28] <wxl> and s390x built horray
[00:28] <RikMills> so you just admit the 1st one was wrong and do a ubuntu2
[00:28] <wxl> thanks for the help 
[00:29] <RikMills> np
[00:29] <wxl> and after all that i think i may actually have a little bit better understanding of symbols, too. that's always been a weak area
[00:29] <RikMills> when you figure them out, teach me :P
[00:30] <wxl> hahahahahah
[00:30] <RikMills> and good night all :)
[00:30] <wxl> well knowing where to find good documentation is helpful
[00:30] <wxl> night!
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 but at the moment im' putting back together a fubar email system that exploded
[00:57] <wxl> @teward001 all i'm saying is basically interacting with the web interface, so should be pretty simple stuff. the special part i'm asking for is your careful eye with regards to packaging
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 give me a list of initial things you want my eyes on
 i'll add it to my cycles tomorrow
 you don't want me tryin to merge things atm because ERR:DRINKING
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[01:56] <wxl> i'm more thinking into the near future, so nothing to do yet :)
[01:57] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker: ^ make sure to add teward as a reviewer on future diffs. thx!
 👍
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[02:08] <guiverc> GRRRR.. wxl, I think I just have 1864787 occur on a different box..  (focal.2)
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 so you've figured out how to replicate?  :P
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[02:38] <kc2bez[m]> Sorry to abandon you earlier wxl , sounds like you are the symbols guru now XD Thanks to Rik for the help.
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[02:54] <kc2bez[m]> There is the 20.04.2 respin as promised ^
[02:55] <guiverc> can I cry now?  (I had my fingers crossed so there wouldn't be one; it didn't work)
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[02:55] <kc2bez[m]> I don't know that we need to run through all the tests
[02:56] <kc2bez[m]> We should do some sanity checking though.
[02:56] <guiverc> good !  I had no intention of doing that.. just the odd one
[02:56] <guiverc> yep. iso.qa.ubuntu is blank again...
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[02:56] <kc2bez[m]> It is getting a workout
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[03:59] <kc2bez[m]> guiverc: FYI, I ran through a couple of installs on VM's and at a glance things look ok, I did an EFI and Bios install. 
[04:00] <guiverc> my first BIOS install is nearing completion... old spinning-rust needs time...
[04:01] <kc2bez[m]> All good, I think the actual installs on hardware are a better measure so it is worth the wait.
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[04:24] <guiverc> BIOS & uEFI installs completed successfully...
[04:26] <kc2bez[m]> Thanks guiverc !
[04:27] <kc2bez[m]> I think we are in good shape.
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 I will tackle the UEFI+secure boots etc
[05:19] <guiverc> Thanks @Leokolb.. I did a uEFI (XFS listed using sony thingy) so one of each may suffice (my opinion anyway)... I'm fighting issues here... (you'll see)
[05:31] <theloudspeaker> While i don't have hardware to test myself. I can do tests in a VM. Let me know if I can help guiverc 
[05:31] <theloudspeaker> Also, wxl you mentioned lxqt-build-tools ? Something broke?
[05:32] <guiverc> thanks theloudspeaker :)  I think we've got it covered myself.
[05:32] <theloudspeaker> Noice! 
 I was actually gonna start skipping diffs now. Thinking of cross-checking stuff myself and then landing directly. (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker: ^ make sure to add teward as a reviewer on future diffs. thx!)
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[17:37] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_lxqt-build-tools UNSTABLE: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_lxqt-build-tools/306/
 https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/bafaa62d/file_1817_tgs.webp
 just joking...
[18:14] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_lxqt-openssh-askpass just succeeded after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_lxqt-openssh-askpass/328/
[19:20] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] focal_stable_lxqt-powermanagement just failed after succeeding: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/focal_stable_lxqt-powermanagement/584/
[19:21] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker: i welcome you to skip the diffs if you are 100% confident in your abilities. just remember that with great power comes great responsibility.
 when they break though
 don't come crawling to me or walter :P
[19:22] <wxl> ^ this
[19:22] <tsimonq2> I don't even skip diff skimming/reading. Like, ever.
[19:22] <wxl> holding that over your head like that should ensure that you do the right thing XD
 and in some cases Simon even asks for others to look at the diffs too :P
[19:23] <wxl> like yesterday's thing with s390x, i could of just copied/pasted what Rik said, but it was one character off and it would have failed. admittedly, it probably would have failed in building, but still. i went searching for documentation and got the answer
[19:24] <tsimonq2> Collaboration is not a sign of weakness.
[19:24] <kc2bez[m]> <tsimonq2 "I don't even skip diff skimming/"> Umm hmm.
[19:24] <wxl> and in general, i would say that the best thing you can do if you get stuck is to ask here but if you don't get an immediate answer, go searching
[19:24] <wxl> (for canonical [lower case] documentation sources)
 Aye!
[19:25] <wxl> i.e. debian policy
[19:25] <kc2bez[m]> <tsimonq2 "Collaboration is not a sign of w"> This is true. 
[19:25] <tsimonq2> <kc2bez[m] "<tsimonq2 "I don't even skip dif"> Well, I at least skim it. There is a very small but existent list of people that I'll literally just upload it.
[19:25] <wxl> in reality, we ALL should be doing diffs
[19:26] <tsimonq2> I agree
[19:26] <kc2bez[m]> You are not wrong.
[19:29] <wxl> so maybe we should start doing just that
[19:31] <wxl> we can always ping like mad here if we need a quick approval for some reason
[19:31] <wxl> or maybe simply discuss if there's a need to push something through so quickly
[19:33] <tsimonq2> APPROVE APPROVE APPROVE ABI BREAK ABI BREAK
[19:33] <tsimonq2> sorry 
[19:33] <tsimonq2> Ohhh you're talking about the future.
[19:34] <The_LoudSpeaker> XD
[19:34] <kc2bez[m]> XD
[19:34]  * RikMills wonders who this strange tsimonq2 person is
[19:34] <RikMills> that name rings a bell somehow....
[19:35] <tsimonq2> Yeah, he's from way back in the day.
[19:35] <tsimonq2> I still have my first cart and horse.
[19:36] <kc2bez[m]> Just don't put the cart first.
[19:36] <RikMills> don't put the cart before the horse
[19:36] <RikMills> lol. kc2bez[m] was quicker tying
[19:36] <RikMills> *typing
[19:36] <kc2bez[m]> :D
[19:36] <wxl> he's probably good with knots too
[19:37] <tsimonq2> I can tie a square knot on a good day and I still tie my shoes the cheater way. What does that tell you? XD
[19:37] <wxl> THE CHEATER WAY?????
[19:38] <tsimonq2> I never learned how to do that loopy nonsense. Two bunny ears, tie in a simple knot twice and I'm done
[19:38] <kc2bez[m]> Is that where you get someone else to tie them and then you just slide them on and off after that?
[19:38] <tsimonq2> I tie them myself and sometimes have to slide them on and off in a rush... :P
[19:38] <wxl> heheheheh
[19:39] <wxl> for a minute there i thought you were going to tell us you have roos
[19:39] <tsimonq2> Huh?
[19:39] <wxl> velcro
[19:39]  * RikMills notes knot and knot-resolver packages are outstanding in merge-o-matic 
[19:39]  * RikMills hand to kc2bez[m] 
[19:40] <RikMills> *hands
[19:40] <wxl> wow, rik, wow. are you drunk again? XD
[19:40] <RikMills> sadly no
[19:40] <wxl> YES HERE"S SIMONS"S NEW SHOES https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b2/e7/4c/b2e74c2f9c21def1203e3c4505bcd23a.jpg
[19:41] <kc2bez[m]> XD
[19:42] <wxl> man, advertising in the 80s "Children's and boys' sizes." so, apparently boys aren't children. and apparently girls don't matter, or are necessarily children. ridiculous.
[19:42] <tsimonq2> HAHAHAHA
[19:43] <tsimonq2> <RikMills "hand to kc2bez[m] "> You British and your confusing use of plurality: P
[19:45] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_lxqt-policykit just succeeded after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_lxqt-policykit/325/
[19:46] <RikMills> BTW, lubuntu still wants the patches here? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluedevil/4:5.20.5-1ubuntu1
[19:46] <wxl> an aside: the local communities research committee that the cc is taking nominations ideally has representatives from all across the world. right now, we have none in africa in oceania, so if you know anyone that fits the bill, please nominate them (with their permission, of course). @guiverc i'm looking at you since you're in at least one of those areas 
[19:46] <wxl> https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/call-for-nomination-local-communities-research-committee/20271/8
[19:46] <wxl> RikMills: unless something upstream has changed to include them, es
[19:47] <wxl> um
[19:47] <wxl> yes
[19:47] <RikMills> ok, just checking :)
[19:47] <wxl> np
[19:50] <The_LoudSpeaker> sidequest: ubuntu(stock ubuntu) hippo is going to have wayland as default?
[19:50] <The_LoudSpeaker> i read about it somewhere. maybe an omgubuntu article
[19:50] <RikMills> so it is said....
[19:51] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] focal_stable_lxqt-powermanagement just failed after succeeding: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/focal_stable_lxqt-powermanagement/584/
[19:51] <RikMills> or that is the aim, at least
[19:51] <RikMills> sometime you aim at something, but miss....
[19:52] <The_LoudSpeaker> it would be really cool if we achieve that
[19:52] <kc2bez[m]> In Lubuntu?
[19:52] <The_LoudSpeaker> I just did a install in a vm. I copied the host cpu config so that it gets that I am using ryzen 4500u and it's still on x as default.
[19:53] <The_LoudSpeaker> kc2bez[m]: nah. ubuntu
[19:53] <The_LoudSpeaker> gnome one. mammoth.
[19:53] <RikMills> I might add the wayland session to kubuntu this time for the beta (not the default). see how it goes
[19:53] <kc2bez[m]> Just checking.
[19:54] <kc2bez[m]> We need a different window manager for wayland.
[19:54] <wxl> we could always do kwin
[19:54] <wxl> I KNOW HERESY RIGHT
[19:54] <The_LoudSpeaker> pipewire is still not in this install which means it is still not ready. pipewire is essential if ubuntu is to ship wayland as default.
[19:55] <The_LoudSpeaker> wxl: I'd like to reallly try kwin. been a long time since I used anything other than gnome/pantheon as my daily driver.
[19:56]  * kc2bez[m] eats his own dogfood
[19:57] <kc2bez[m]> kwin pairs nicely with LXQt though.
[19:57] <kc2bez[m]> There are a couple of others that might work out too.
[20:36] <wxl> 1236 [oftc] < wb9688:#lxde> GTK2 is EOL since GTK4 has been released
[20:37] <wxl> oh really??????? X''''''''''''''''''''''D
[20:37] <kc2bez[m]> RIP GTK2
[20:38] <wxl> but their logic is "we're good 'for now' with having GTK2 support" since "e.g. GIMP still depends on GTK2"
[20:38] <wxl> omg
[20:38] <kc2bez[m]> Gimp moved to GTK3 I think
[20:38] <wxl> their reference is that bullseye gimp depends on it?
[20:38] <kc2bez[m]> Almost the same time GTK4 came out.
[20:38] <kc2bez[m]> Hmm
[20:39] <wxl> yep gtk2 alright https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/gimp
[20:40] <wxl> in nov they went gtk in 2.99
[20:40] <wxl> debian is on 2.10
[20:41] <kc2bez[m]> Ah, that explains it.
[20:41] <kc2bez[m]> 2.10 wow
[20:41] <wxl> in dec gtk4 was released
[20:41] <wxl> and let's remember gtk was written for gimp in the first place
[20:41] <wxl> so that's kind of funny
[20:42] <kc2bez[m]> I remember the announcements were close-ish together.
[20:42] <wxl> xfce took 4.5 years to port from gtk2 to gtk3 and only finished ~1yr ago
[20:42] <wxl> current plans are gtk5 will come in 2-3 years
[20:43] <wxl> gimp started working on the gtk2-3 transistion in *TWO THOUSAND TWELVE*
[20:43] <kc2bez[m]> yikes
[20:46] <wxl> huh blender built its own toolkit. that's interesting given its huge success
[20:47] <wxl> you know what's great about 21.04?
[20:48] <wxl> it's my birthday that month and the present i get is that we get to drop gtk2
[20:48] <kc2bez[m]> \o/
[21:10] <kc2bez[m]> Sorry got called away.
[21:10] <kc2bez[m]> !standup
[21:10] <KGIII> Here.
 here
[21:10] <The_LoudSpeaker> o/
 Hi! I think I can join today
[21:11] <guiverc> o/ (semi-awake only though)
[21:11] <kc2bez[m]> nice!
[21:12] <wxl> hi phone 1s
[21:12] <kc2bez[m]> okie dokie
 hello refrigerator! (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <wxl> hi phone 1s)
[21:13] <kc2bez[m]> XD
[21:13] <kc2bez[m]> Alright KGIII go ahead and lead us off.
[21:13] <KGIII> Same as always, really. I have done daily testing and had some extra time to really dig into stuff. I've been able to offer a little support on AskUbuntu. I'm still reading and learning, trying to play catch-up. I am still watching bug triaging. I'll be able do this for the foreseeable future. I did pick up a giant hard drive just for Lubuntu stuff, so that's nice. 
[21:13] <KGIII> That is everything and here's a preemptive thanks to everyone for your contributions.
[21:14] <KGIII> (I was prepared!)
[21:14] <guiverc> thank you KGIII, I see you on askubu & it's appreciated
[21:14] <kc2bez[m]> Nice, thanks for all your support!
 tks KGIII
[21:15] <kc2bez[m]> @Leokolb you are next
[21:15] <KGIII> NP all.
 Testing  Focal 20.04.2 - latest daily tested on 14 boxes
[21:15] <kc2bez[m]> wow
 old Intel Pentiums + up to Gen 11 processors -
 downloaded proprietary driver macmini BCM WiFi - no hardware problems
 also tested Hirsute dailies- no major issues
 Nice!
 Just saw Ubuntu released a few mins ago
 done
[21:16] <kc2bez[m]> Thanks for all that testing!
[21:16] <kc2bez[m]> Yup, our announcement is on my TODO
[21:16] <guiverc> Thank you @Leokolb, it's appreciated  (me hasn't noticed ML on 20.04.2 yet.. watching)
[21:17]  * guiverc was talking main Ubuntu... for fridge
[21:17] <wxl> thanks KGIII !!!!!!!!!
[21:17] <kc2bez[m]> Raman Sarda: You are next up.
[21:18] <The_LoudSpeaker> nothing from me. just a merge of liblxqt
[21:18] <wxl> ^ that's not nothing
[21:18] <kc2bez[m]> totes
[21:19] <kc2bez[m]> It sure is something
[21:19] <kc2bez[m]> Thanks for that.
 *drops a flashbang in*
[21:19] <wxl> hope to see lots of more merges from you soon raman!
[21:19]  * wxl picks up the flashbang and throws it back
[21:20]  * wxl follows it up with a healthy amount of bear spray
 *tosses the flashbang into Simon's home*
[21:20] <kc2bez[m]> @HMollerCl Nice to see you here
[21:20] <kc2bez[m]> save us
[21:20] <wxl> hahahahah
[21:20] <wxl> i blame thomas
 jejeje
 Nice to be here
[21:21] <kc2bez[m]> Cool, drop in anytime
[21:21] <wxl> it's good to see you hans. i presume nothing new in the way of contributions?
 your presumptions are correct
[21:21] <kc2bez[m]> Thanks for joining us!
[21:22] <kc2bez[m]> guiverc: The floor is yours.
[21:22] <wxl> work still crazy?
[21:22] <guiverc> fair amount of testing focal.2, some support, all I remember currently
[21:22] <kc2bez[m]> Thanks for all the testing!
 Thanks Chris
[21:23] <wxl> for what you summarize in so few words, i know it's a lot of effort and it is greatly appreciated, chris
[21:23] <guiverc> :)
 I have a question for wxl regarding  system tray vs status notifier. I'm not sure what redshift-qt uses and if we need to do something.
[21:23] <kc2bez[m]> Ii know it was a bit crazy with all the respins
[21:23] <kc2bez[m]> *late respins
[21:24] <wxl> @HMollerCl I haven't done anything with regards to that
[21:24] <guiverc> fyi: i have no broadcom, or devices that find any `ubuntu-drivers autoinstall`; I did look
[21:25] <kc2bez[m]> ok, thanks guiverc 
[21:26] <KGIII> https://lubuntu.me/focal-2-released/ <-- Not working.
[21:26] <kc2bez[m]> nope
[21:26] <KGIII> (Sorry. Did not mean to hit enter yet.)
[21:26] <wxl> @HMollerCl https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-panel/issues/1266#issuecomment-554799985 may be helpful
[21:26] <kc2bez[m]> not posted yet
 wxl: yes I read that, tha's why I remember
[21:27] <wxl> tl;dr status notifier is freedesktop spec, so as long as we're following that, should be good
 I don't know if redshift-qt follows that..
[21:27] <wxl> yeah i don't know either
[21:28] <kc2bez[m]> We should test it.
[21:28] <wxl> sadly i'm more worried about essential merges right now rather than polish
[21:28] <kc2bez[m]> Very true.
[21:28] <wxl> phone again
[21:28] <kc2bez[m]> wxl I think it is your turn
 yup, and redshift doesn't work on wayland, so it's not to "strategic" to invest much time on it.
[21:28] <kc2bez[m]> oh no worries
[21:29] <kc2bez[m]> I can go
[21:29]  * kc2bez[m] sent a long message:  < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/xNkWumRRHeKPMYszSfFCvMKU/message.txt >
[21:30] <kc2bez[m]> whoops
[21:30] <kc2bez[m]> Yeah, well it is in there XD
 Thanks dan
[21:30] <guiverc> Thank you kc2bez[m] 
[21:31] <kc2bez[m]> I also reviewed Raman's liblxqt merge with wxl
 about your test package ..had some prob with the keys
[21:31] <kc2bez[m]> hmm
[21:32] <kc2bez[m]> oh, sometimes ppas are weird on live.
 at any rate i would like to test it..maybe after the weekend
[21:32] <kc2bez[m]> If it fails on the first go just try again
[21:32] <kc2bez[m]> I think it might be a time sync issue
 yep
[21:33] <kc2bez[m]> Thanks @Leokolb
[21:35] <kc2bez[m]> wxl:  whenever you make it back...
[21:35] <kc2bez[m]> Unless @teward001 had something other than chaos
[21:36] <kc2bez[m]> Or anyone else
[21:36] <KGIII> I normally hate all notifications, but it'd be pretty sweet if there was some sort of notification when a new daily testing ISO becomes available. Is there a wishlist where I can add that?
[21:39] <kc2bez[m]> As you can see here the time is consistent. https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/lubuntu/hirsute/
[21:40] <kc2bez[m]> The only time you don't see a build is when it fails. Then if we do a rebuild it shoots out at a different time.
 I have been more or less able to trust those times
[21:41] <guiverc> KGIII, there is a subscribe which means you get an email (most of the time anyway) when ISOs are created.. I'm looking for it
[21:41] <KGIII> That's not consistent! LOL I often have time constraints so I like to catch it as soon as it becomes available.
[21:42] <guiverc> KGIII, http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/419/builds/226410/testcases   note the "Subscribe" button..
[21:42] <kc2bez[m]> There you go ^ even better
 i have subscribed but never get the emails..
[21:43] <KGIII> Thanks. That'll do the trick. I have set up my email client to let it notify me of Lubuntu related things.
[21:43] <guiverc> Yeah @Leokolb.. why I added (most of the time anyway).. I've got emails, but also not got them..
[21:43] <kc2bez[m]> I really only watch for the failure emails :P
[21:44]  * The_LoudSpeaker was on a call all this time. just messaged that one liner earlier. 
[21:44] <The_LoudSpeaker> thanks everyone for your help.
[21:44] <The_LoudSpeaker> especially the testers for 20.04.2
[21:44] <kc2bez[m]> Thank you
 tks
[21:45]  * guiverc now wonders if "most of the time" gives too much hope too.. maybe "some of the time" would be more accurate..
[21:46] <KGIII> If I have time, maybe I can add testing 20.04.3 to my list of daily tasks when that pops up.
[21:47] <kc2bez[m]> sounds good
[21:47] <guiverc> KGIII, re-spins like 20.04.3 don't need daily (except maybe close to release)... very little changes, testing is usually the installs & every so often is good
[21:47] <kc2bez[m]> When the release nears the changes need more eyes
[21:47] <guiverc> there was much focus with 20.04.2 due to HWE issues & 5.8 going out early (with some stuff missed)...  
[21:48] <kc2bez[m]> This one was active towards the end
[21:48] <guiverc> my point was most of focus is just prior to release.. (maybe fornight before.. occasional only before that)
[21:49] <KGIII> That's not too onerous sounding.
[21:49] <guiverc> a clue as to when to focus maybe https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/release-team/testing-checklist/?v=439 & when I modified that page to reflect 20.04.2, it'll be next changed to hirsute/21.04
[21:50] <KGIII> Subscribed.
[21:51] <KGIII> It's a little late now, but I probably should have done all this with a dedicated email address.
[21:51]  * guiverc adds that page previously had 20.10 detail..  change https://phab.lubuntu.me/transactions/detail/PHID-XACT-WIKI-22jbdjoiprseibr/
 i agree about the "focus" but at the same time we can never test too much -
[21:51] <guiverc> sorry wrong change
[21:52] <guiverc> that change was adding swap; https://phab.lubuntu.me/transactions/detail/PHID-XACT-WIKI-gamcglbprvexkzr/ or Jan-22 was the focal.2 strong-focus..
[21:53] <guiverc> what I'm saying here isn't gospel, but intended as example
[21:54] <wxl> oh boy ok i'm back
[21:54] <wxl> sorry that was an international call so i kind of had to take it
[21:54] <kc2bez[m]> No worries
[21:55] <wxl> so another huge paste so i'm not going to paste it here
[21:55] <wxl> that said https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zrQXzGZKHN/
 wow! thanks wxl!
[21:56] <wxl> i draw everyone's attention to the post i made about the in-development process on discourse, as feedback there would be helpful
[21:56] <wxl> the other good news is my container is up and running so i can actually do packaging again
[21:56] <wxl> which shows itself in landing raman's liblxqt merge and then following it up with a fix for the s390x architecture
[21:56] <kc2bez[m]> Big thanks wxl 
[21:57] <wxl> (cuz you know everyone wants to run lxqt on s390x)
[21:57] <guiverc> Thanks wxl 
[21:57] <kc2bez[m]> 🤷
[21:57] <kc2bez[m]> maybe
[21:57] <wxl> that said, i haven't actually got to doing any more packaging beyond that so hopefully no new stuff comes up so i can get to that XD
[21:57]  * guiverc was happy with the ISPF on s390; I knew it so well... 
[21:57] <wxl> we really really really really really need to get lxqt 0.16.0 in
[21:58] <wxl> cuz there's a bunch of things that need fixed beyond that for 21.04 including for example compton/picom
[21:59] <wxl> so if anyone else has spare cycles for support and bug triage, please, take this mantle from me :)
[22:00] <The_LoudSpeaker> Nah. You do that. Guide others (me) on packaging new lxqt.
[22:00] <wxl> let's sit down and do it. when?
[22:00] <kc2bez[m]> We do need to sort of follow this as far as an order though https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/wiki/Building-from-source#compiling
[22:01] <wxl> OH i had missed that
[22:01] <kc2bez[m]> Once we get a little deeper we can all pick some packages and go
[22:01] <wxl> right
[22:01] <wxl> !info src:libqtxdg
[22:02] <wxl> so that's old and needs to be done next
[22:02] <guiverc> I'd love to see lxqt 0.16 so I'm not adjusting display on each login.. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxqt-config/+bug/1905947  (not lubuntu specific, see it elsewhere except opensuse tumbleweed using 0.16)
[22:02] <KGIII> I do not yet know enough to feel comfortable triaging bugs. I am watching in earnest and even sometimes try to recreate them. I've been using Linux for a long time, but never really spent all that much time learning *how* it works.
[22:03] <kc2bez[m]> If you have questions just poke one of us.
[22:03] <guiverc> I'd suggest don't push yourself KGIII ... watch until you want to try & dive in..  testing is helping!
[22:03] <guiverc> as is your support!
[22:03] <kc2bez[m]> Absolutely
[22:04] <wxl> i'd say pretend like you're going to do bug triage but don't do it. ask questions until you figure out an appropriate course of action and ask us if it's correct. that's a great way to figure things out
[22:04] <KGIII> Oh, I go at my own speed. My time is registered in 'blocks of time'. It's a long story, but that's how I manage my time. So, I use up blocks of time and prioritize it.
[22:04]  * KGIII marks everything "Won't Fix!"
 have to run - thanks everyone!
[22:05] <kc2bez[m]> Thank you @Leokolb
[22:05] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker: seriously, though, let's schedule when we're going to sit down and work.
[22:05] <wxl> thanks leo! be well!
[22:06] <kc2bez[m]> time zones are tough but I am sure we can figure something out.
[22:07] <wxl> yeah i think we can too
 Aye. Can we have like one day of a week dedicated for this? Preferably Tuesday/Thursday ? (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker: seriously, though, let's schedule when we're going to sit down and work.)
[22:08] <wxl> that would work for me, depending on the time
[22:09] <kc2bez[m]> I haven't seen the email yet but I am going to push my web updates before I leave work.
[22:09] <kc2bez[m]> So right now :P
[22:09] <wxl> sounds good
[22:09] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] focal_stable_pavucontrol-qt FAILURE: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/focal_stable_pavucontrol-qt/588/
[22:10] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] hirsute_stable_pavucontrol-qt FAILURE: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/hirsute_stable_pavucontrol-qt/104/
[22:10] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T185: deal with merges] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T185#4217
[22:11] <kc2bez[m]> https://lubuntu.me/focal-2-released/ works now KGIII 
[22:12] <KGIII> I'll have to read it. That was two non-working URLs I've found this week. See? I test all sorts of stuff!
[22:12] <The_LoudSpeaker> Thursday nights would be good actually. (Not ideal but okay)
[22:12] <The_LoudSpeaker> Basically the same time of our weekly meets. A couple of hours before that. 1700 UTC onwards on Thursdays?
[22:14] <kc2bez[m]> <KGIII "I'll have to read it. That was t"> Was it posted somewhere before I published it?
[22:14] <KGIII> Yes. It was linked from the download page at lubuntu.me.
[22:14] <wxl> could we make that 1800?
[22:14] <KGIII> I didn't just guess at the URL. LOL
[22:15] <kc2bez[m]> It is predictable 
[22:15] <KGIII> Ah, well I didn't guess. I clicked the link and it was not yet working.
[22:15] <The_LoudSpeaker> Works. I can always start an hour early and bombard you with stuff when you arrive wxl XD
[22:15] <wxl> @kc2bez[m]: would that work for you?
[22:16] <kc2bez[m]> <KGIII "Ah, well I didn't guess. I click"> I didn't think I hit the update button but I must have. I only did that right before the meeting.
[22:16] <kc2bez[m]> I think I generally can wxl 
[22:16] <KGIII> I opened it during the meeting to see if 20.04.2 was available to download. I clicked the link and then typed in that it was broken and mistakenly hit the enter button. I meant to hit the button after the meeting, but here we are.
[22:17] <kc2bez[m]> no worries
[22:17] <wxl> The_LoudSpeaker: i mean kc2bez[m] and i will both be at work, so you'll have to potentially deal with a little distraction, but let's call it good
[22:17] <The_LoudSpeaker> Aye. So see you folks next Thursday. 
[22:17] <KGIII> The page looks good, by the way.
[22:18] <wxl> i think we should call it generally team packaging time
[22:18] <kc2bez[m]> Thanks KGIII 
[22:18]  * The_LoudSpeaker sleeps. It's 3.47 am here. Wishes everyone good night.
[22:18] <wxl> night
[22:18] <kc2bez[m]> Sounds like a plan wxl 
[22:18] <KGIII> I think I'll be a fly on the wall during those meetings. I learn a lot from reading the chat.
[22:19] <kc2bez[m]> take care Raman
[22:19] <wxl> thanks all!
[22:20] <kc2bez[m]> Ok, I am leaving the office now. I will finish up release stuff from home.
[22:29] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_pavucontrol-qt FAILURE: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_pavucontrol-qt/350/
[22:30] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] focal_stable_pavucontrol-qt FAILURE: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/focal_stable_pavucontrol-qt/588/
[22:35] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] focal_stable_pavucontrol-qt FAILURE: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/focal_stable_pavucontrol-qt/588/
 nope i have nothing sorry
 got called for chaos at work though :P
[22:50] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] hirsute_stable_pavucontrol-qt FAILURE: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/hirsute_stable_pavucontrol-qt/104/
[22:50] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_pavucontrol-qt FAILURE: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_pavucontrol-qt/350/
[23:17] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] focal_stable_sddm UNSTABLE: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/focal_stable_sddm/621/
[23:17] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] hirsute_stable_sddm UNSTABLE: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/hirsute_stable_sddm/125/
[23:17] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_sddm UNSTABLE: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_sddm/377/