[01:48] <oerheks> !vraag
[02:12] <pi0> anyone here use gsconnect with ubuntu 20.04
[02:12] <pi0> also what is the name of the file explorer for gnome
[02:12] <pi0> i installed the minimal version of ubuntu 20.04
[02:12] <pi0> and i do not get the folder icon
[02:14] <sarnold> is that nautilus?
[02:22] <oerheks> seriously, no nautilus with minimal install?
[02:23] <pi0> does nautilus mean full install?
[02:24] <pi0> i mean if i were to install nautilus
[02:25] <sarnold> ubuntu-minimal doesn't look like it includes any graphical anything https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/br4TzP4hQN/
[02:27] <oerheks> that would be the mini iso without selection?
[02:28] <oerheks> not the regular desktop, with minimal option, as i presume
[02:29] <oerheks> why would anyone take a bare install, and try gsconnect :-D
[02:29] <sarnold> ah, is there a 'minimal' thing in the installer that's unrelated to the ubuntu-minimal package? that's not at all confusing :)
[02:32] <oerheks> or: yes, nautilus pulls in gnome-desktop
[02:37] <pi0> the bare install is on a vm
[02:38] <pi0> with limited resources
[02:38] <pi0> my actual desktop is ubuntu full
[02:41] <pi0> oerheks: but not sure what the issue is with my ubuntu 20.04 and gsconnect
[02:41] <pi0> have you used gsconnect before?
[02:45] <sarnold> hmmm, someone was asking about gsconnect the other day, and this url came up https://askubuntu.com/questions/1230155/ubuntu-20-04-gsconnect
[02:45] <sarnold> the last answer looks potentially most useful
[02:58] <pi0> sarnold: are you on discord?
[03:00] <sarnold> pi0: is that the chat thing or the forum thing?
[03:06] <pi0> the chat app with screenshare in all
[03:06] <pi0> just trying to trouble shoot this gsconnect issue :/
[03:09] <sarnold> ah, no, no chat thing
[03:19] <pi0> sarnold: i ran a few commands from the link you provided however i got these new programms installed and now sure how to remove them
[03:19] <pi0> https://awwapp.com/b/ujokztoiisud6/
[03:19] <pi0> what is the best method to search for installed apps and complete purge them out
[03:19] <sarnold> dpkg -l | grep '^ii' will show you what you have installed
[03:19] <sarnold> apt purge packagename will remove it
[03:22] <pi0> thank you kindly
[03:25] <pi0> in regards to minicom
[03:25] <pi0> from that link, if the .desktop icon is not located in ./local/share/applications
[03:25] <pi0> where else can it be?
[03:25] <sarnold> /usr/share/applications/minicom.desktop
[03:26] <sarnold> I found that with apt-file search minicom.desktop -- I got lucky that the name was logical :)
[03:27] <pi0> oh that is how you find files
[03:27] <pi0> apt-file
[03:27] <pi0> it will searh the whole fs
[03:27] <sarnold> no
[03:27] <sarnold> it searches a database of packages and the files that the packages say they own
[03:28] <sarnold> the ubuntu repositories publish a file saying which packages own which files, and apt-file can download that database and search it easily
[03:29] <sarnold> if you want to search the whole filesystem, there's a few choices for that -- the mlocate package builds an index every day that you can search with 'locate', and the findutils package provides a 'find' command that will search whichever directories and children you specify for whatever criteria you specify
[03:30] <sarnold> (there's also a newer plocate command that's a milliion times better than locate, but it probably isn't in any ubuntu yet; and there's an fd command that should be faster than the find command, but it may also not be in ubuntu yet)
[03:36] <pi0> nice!
[03:36] <pi0> i have an application called imagemagick how do i know what other programs rely on this app to run successfully
[03:39] <sarnold> apt purge -s imagemagick  -- the -s asks to simulate removing it
[03:39] <sarnold> that'll only show packages known to apt to Depend: on imagemagick though -- any applications you may have installed outside of apt won't show up there
[03:55] <jpmh> I have read reports of issues with libgcrypyt that a user can gain root privs using gpg - how is this possible given that gpg does not have the setuid bit set
[03:59] <sarnold> jpmh: my *guess* is that whoever said this was thinking of supplying malicious apt repository contents and then exploiting the gpgv process that is run as part of apt update or apt upgrade commands
[04:01] <jpmh> sarnold: that does not fit with what I'm reading.  They say that with libgcrypt 1,9.1 a carefully crafted gpg message can exploit this
[04:02] <sarnold> jpmh: note that this is a GPG "message": http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/focal/InRelease
[04:03] <jpmh> sarnold: OK - and how does such a message cause priv escalation if gpg does not have setuid
[04:08] <sarnold> jpmh: because unattended-upgrades runs as root; or sudo apt update runs as root
[04:09] <jpmh> sarnold: but all reports say that it is dectypting a specially crafted message
[04:10] <sarnold> jpmh: sure; an evil person could construct such a message, set up a web server on a cloud instance somewhere cheap, then perform DNS hijacking at a coffee shop or something to cause an ubuntu laptop to talk to *their* web server
[04:11] <jpmh> sarnold: I'm missing what you are siggesting here - how can gpg grant privs if it does not have setuid
[04:15] <sarnold> jpmh: ubuntu installs the unattended-upgrades package by default -- this run apt get update basically every night. as root. apt runs gpgv to verify the package lists. apt *may* use the _apt user account for this task, I'm not sure. If apt uses _apt, then the exploit would need to get gpgv to emit "OK". If apt doesn't use the _apt account for verifying the lists, then it'll use the root account
[04:17] <sarnold> jpmh: I've got to run -- if there's still a disconnect somewhere, try asking in #ubuntu-hardened, there's a chance someone else may be around
[04:17] <sarnold> jpmh: have fun :)
[04:18] <jpmh> sarnold: TY
[04:21] <vysty> I've built a new computer and installed Ubuntu 20.04. My previous machine is running Ubuntu 18.04. What is the best way to transfer my files and settings from the old to new computer?
[04:27] <deltab> vysty: if your user id is the same on both systems, then transferring the files on disk should be straightforward, assuming they're stored under /home or dedicated directories
[04:28] <deltab> vysty: or you can connect the machines using a network and rsync the files across
[04:36] <octav1a> having an issue where i can ping and resolve all website dns fine, but i get 'connection refused' for all sites trying to open them
[04:36] <octav1a> any idea what might cause it?
[05:03] <pi0> sarnold: arg!
[05:03] <deltab> octav1a: resolving to the right IP addresses?
[05:03] <pi0> my school comp pooped
[05:03] <pi0> Bluetooth: hci0: command 0x0c03 tx timeout
[05:03] <pi0> wont boot up into the os
[05:04] <deltab> octav1a: try tcptraceroute
[05:07] <pi0> is there any way to boot it up again
[05:14] <pi0> all of a suden
[05:14] <pi0> just did not boot up
[05:14] <pi0> does linux offer recovery boot
[05:16] <deltab> yes
[05:16] <deltab> what happens?
[05:16] <pi0> when i boot up my laptop macbook pro
[05:17] <pi0> Bluetooth: hci0: BCM: Reset failed (-110)
[05:17] <pi0> it hangs on that
[05:18] <deltab> that seems to be a problem with some Bluetooth HCI (human/computer interface) device
[05:19] <deltab> at what stage in booting does that happen?
[05:20] <pi0> from the start
[05:20] <pi0> as soon as i hit power
[05:21] <pi0> it goes through the process and stops there
[05:22] <deltab> so the boot loader has started the kernel at least
[05:23] <pi0> i think so
[05:23] <deltab> you should be able to interrupt the boot process before the kernel starts and try the rescue mode
[05:24] <pi0> what is the hotkey to load that menu
[05:24] <deltab> I think any key will do
[05:25] <pi0> i will try space bar
[05:26] <pi0> "/dev/sda2: recovering journal"
[05:26] <pi0> "/dev/sda2: clean ...... "stuff"
[05:27] <deltab> good
[05:28] <pi0> those are the only 2 lines
[05:28] <pi0> then it goes back were we talk about
[05:28] <pi0> i cannot seem to find the recovery menu
[05:28] <pi0> if i boot it from a different usb
[05:28] <pi0> is that an option
[05:28] <deltab> yes
[05:28] <pi0> but what would i do then
[05:28] <deltab> depends on what the problem is
[05:29] <deltab> if it's software (a bad update, maybe) you could use the working OS to repair the broken one
[05:29] <pi0> well did just remove a lot of stuff
[05:29] <deltab> if it's hardware, you might be able to find out which device
[05:30] <deltab> what kind of stuff?
[05:30] <pi0> gnome
[05:30] <deltab> ah okay; that shouldn't affect the kernel
[05:33] <pi0> but not sure how to get to the recovery screen menu
[05:33] <pi0> were i can select a different kernel
[05:37] <deltab> that's the boot loader
[05:37] <deltab> do you know which boot loader your system is using?
[05:37] <deltab> or can you boot from another USB device?
[05:40] <pi0> not exactly sure
[05:40] <pi0> but once i boot with another usb
[05:40] <pi0> how do i select recovery from the hd itself
[05:44] <deltab> if your other OS works then use that
[05:46] <Hash> Hello my friend
[05:46] <Hash> I made a guitar video and some parts suck which would like to clip out, is the gui for the ffmpeg thingy who can do this or is there a good program in ubuntu 20
[05:46] <pi0> but its just off the usb
[05:46] <Hash> I don't know this.
[05:47] <Hash> Something like Windows Movie Maker (easy peasy, drop video, clip out parts, etc.)
[05:49] <Hash> It's probably easier to clip out using ffmpeg I guess. Then stitch em together. I wonder what happens if you cat a few video files into a new bigger video file. Does it mess up the encodings?
[05:49] <deltab> depends on the format
[05:52] <deltab> it might work perfectly, or with a stutter or glitch, or it might only play one part, or it might not play at all
[05:53] <deltab> and you might lose the ability to skip through the window smoothly or at all, or the sound might be desynchronised, etc.
[05:54] <deltab> try it, I guess; or look for video editing software; it's abailable
[05:55] <deltab> pi0: it should be able to access the hard drive
[06:03] <deltab> pi0: ah, holding shift should show the GRUB menu, according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode
[06:04] <deltab> or press escape a few times
[06:05] <deltab> recovery mode gives you a root shell and not much else
[06:06] <deltab> so a live CD/USB is generally nicer
[06:06] <Hash> Ok I just used this program called mpv and noted times and use ffmpeg to slice out a thing
[06:06] <Hash> Now I have to figure out latency on the ubuntu 20.04 kernel and my reordings. I bought a mic
[06:06] <Hash> Oh ok I see, thanks for all the great info man
[06:06] <Hash> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7eTUtdAyaI I did this. Sound is a bit muddy
[06:07] <Hash> Is there an official RT kernel for ubuntu 20.04?
[06:07] <deltab> there's a lowlatency version
[06:09] <Hash> Hmm
[06:09] <Hash> I need like a multi channel, multi track thingy to record in.
[06:09] <Hash> Software I mean.
[06:10] <Hash> Say I play a drum track in it, and while it's playing, record guitar on another track
[06:14] <deltab> https://www.debugpoint.com/2018/08/3-best-daw-digital-audio-workstation-apps-ubuntu-linux/
[06:16] <Hash> Wicked.
[06:17] <pi0> how do i mount my hardrive
[06:17] <pi0> with boot usb
[06:19] <Hash> pi0: open console. as sudo/root type `fdisk -l` or 'lsblk' and find out the drive you want to mount
[06:20] <Hash> pi0: then depending on file system, you'd mount it with `mount /dev/sd(whatever) /your/mount/point'
[06:20] <Hash> Specifying whatever options you would need to pass.
[06:29] <deltab> pi0: if you boot using a live image it can start the GUI and you can use tools such as the Disks utility
[06:32] <pi0> well i was not able to recover from grub menu
[06:32] <pi0> but managed to mount the drive and cp to usb drive
[06:32] <pi0> thank you guys!
[06:32] <pi0> this really saved my hw
[06:47] <pi0> deltab and Hash thank you
[07:01] <Hash> welcome
[07:24] <pi0> how do i download the most current macbook pro firmware
[07:24] <pi0> for ubuntu
[07:24] <pi0> its an older comp
[07:24] <pi0> but i think it was a bluetooth firmware error
[07:37] <ztane> TypeError: null has no properties _onFocusChanged@resource:///org/gnome/shell/ui/closeDialog.js:135:9 :D going crazy with this gnome
[07:38] <ztane> 2.3 gigabytes of javascript errors from buggy gnome shell in 1 hour
[07:38] <ztane> yay.
[07:45] <ztane> wow... fix exists in upstream
[08:24] <nanthencodeneeth> i am using dell vostro 15-3568 i installed windows in uefi. how to install ubuntu through usb uefi
[08:31] <EriC^^> nanthencodeneeth: try to access the run time boot menu and choose usb uefi
[08:32] <EriC^^> press f12 when the pc boots to get the menu
[08:32] <nanthencodeneeth> thank you Eric let me try
[08:32] <EriC^^> no problem
[08:37] <nanthencodeneeth> @Eric this is what i get when i press F12 https://ibb.co/tMN0zbt
[08:39] <nanthencodeneeth> EriC^^ ^ can you help me
[08:41] <EriC^^> nanthencodeneeth: hmm im assuming the usb isnt the toshiba one, try to use a different usb port and repeat the process nanthencodeneeth so that it shows up in the list
[08:41] <EriC^^> nanthencodeneeth: how did you make the ubuntu usb?
[08:41] <nanthencodeneeth> using startupdisk creator
[08:41] <nanthencodeneeth> option present in ubuntu
[08:42] <EriC^^> i see, that should do it
[08:43] <EriC^^> nanthencodeneeth: try also to press F2, go to General  boot sequence and enable uefi and select the USB stoage device as checked and put it at the top of the list before the internal hdd
[08:44] <EriC^^> then press f10 to save and exit
[08:44] <nanthencodeneeth> EriC^^ https://ibb.co/B6mSwSX
[08:44] <EriC^^> nanthencodeneeth: try to press 'add boot option'
[08:44] <nanthencodeneeth> @Eric ok i shall press that
[08:47] <nanthencodeneeth> https://ibb.co/sWRXBdp this is what i get
[08:47] <nanthencodeneeth> now what should i  do EriC^^
[08:49] <nanthencodeneeth> EriC^^ no usb listed in File system
[08:51] <ztane> nanthencodeneeth: mmm ... those are just hard disks all
[08:51] <ztane> partitions on the same device.
[08:52] <nanthencodeneeth> ztane yes how can i make my usb come there
[08:52] <ztane> hmm not sure if it can be in the secure mode, i guess you need to somehow enable the legacy boot mode anyway.
[08:53] <ztane> how could usb boot be safe anyway.
[08:54] <nanthencodeneeth> ztane cant i boot usb in uefi i am new to to all these stuffs and and to be frank i dont even know what uefi is
[08:54] <EriC^^> nanthencodeneeth: what happens if you press on the browse below for 'filename'
[08:54] <nanthencodeneeth> i installed windows in uefi
[08:54] <nanthencodeneeth> and tried to install ubuntu in legacy
[08:55] <nanthencodeneeth> now that made me switch between uefi and legacy each time when i needed to boot windows or ubuntu
[08:55] <nanthencodeneeth> and i read that u should install ubuntu in uefi
[08:55] <EriC^^> nanthencodeneeth: is ubuntu installed in legacy mode right now alongside windows? you can convert it from within the install to uefi
[08:56] <EriC^^> nanthencodeneeth: try pressing filename, also make sure you try different usb ports in case it's having problems
[08:57] <nanthencodeneeth> ok EriC^^ let me try and will say in few minutes
[08:58] <nanthencodeneeth> i cant even select legacy now it is seems disabled
[09:02] <nanthencodeneeth> EriC^^ i changed usb to all the available ports no luck
[09:02] <nanthencodeneeth> its is not getting listed
[09:04] <EriC^^> nanthencodeneeth: does filename show any usb device you can browse for files?
[09:04] <nanthencodeneeth> no
[09:05] <EriC^^> ok, try to get it to boot in legacy mode as you did before
[09:05] <nanthencodeneeth> ok i shall boot in legacy mode
[09:05] <nanthencodeneeth> but how can i add windows to grub
[09:06] <EriC^^> we'll switch ubuntu to use uefi
[09:08] <aaabbbccc> !grub
[10:34] <Mikka> Hello!
[10:34] <Mikka> I have a question about postgresql on 20.04
[10:35] <Mikka> I deleted the directory /var/lib/postgresql/12 and I can't get it back
[10:36] <Mikka> I have reinstalled postgresql -12 -common -client  several times and it is never recreated ...
[10:40] <Mikka> Bah... silly.. had to remove /var/lib/postgresql too ... now it was recreated
[10:40] <Mikka> thanks ;)
[10:48] <akkonrad> is it possible to have topbar and launchbar visible on both screens?
[10:48] <akkonrad> ubuntu 20.10, gnome
[10:49] <lotuspsychje> mirror screens akkonrad
[10:50] <akkonrad> lotuspsychje: so you say that it's not possible? or it's gnome extension or smthg
[10:50] <lotuspsychje> akkonrad: no i mean, to see 2 the same screens you need to mirror them in settings
[10:52] <akkonrad> I don't want to see both screens, what I want to have is to have topbar and launchbar on both of them and different apps used
[10:52] <akkonrad> right now I've got it only on my primary screen
[10:52] <akkonrad> and the second one holds only the app
[10:52] <banisterfiend> hi,is there a simpler way to write this shell script https://pastebin.com/nHW5FGkJ /
[10:54] <EriC^^> banisterfiend: that looks pretty short
[10:55] <banisterfiend> EriC^^ it seems silly to have a conditional there tho, is there a way to do it without even requiring an if?
[10:55] <banisterfiend> the inverse logic oof bash sometimes confuses me
[10:55] <banisterfiend> i.e 0 is success and 1 is failure
[10:55] <banisterfiend> and how that works ni conditionals, is a mind f8ck
[10:56] <EriC^^> ldd | grep -q && return 0 || return 1 ?
[10:57] <EriC^^> banisterfiend: there's probably a better way to go about it, might try asking in #bash
[10:57] <banisterfiend> EriC^^ i was thinking i could leave out the returrn altogether
[10:58] <yossarianuk> hi  - anyone know when the point release is out ?
[10:58] <EriC^^> yeah, i was just thinking that
[10:58] <yossarianuk> i.e 20.04.2 ?
[11:04] <Marquel> morning.
[11:04] <Marquel> short cpu hotplug question: the system reports 8 cpus, of which four are currently offline and do not have their corresponding cpu*
[11:05] <Marquel> cpu*/ folder in the sysfs - how can i set them online?
[11:16] <TJ-> Marquel: are they hyperthreads (SMT) ?
[11:17] <Marquel> TJ-: virtual cpus from the hypervisor. they are listed in "offline".
[11:19] <TJ-> Marquel: if they are 'pretend' SMT they can be potentially disabled by boot-time kernel options to counter vulnerabilities - check the kernel log for clues
[11:21] <Marquel> pcpu-alloc reports CPUs 0 through 7, smp brings up 1 node, 4 cpus.
[11:21] <Marquel> basically works as intended, the four additional vcpus are intended to be available in case of load peaks. as is now.
[11:24] <TJ-> Marquel: maybe you have to mark them as online via the hypervisor?
[11:36] <Marquel> TJ-: indeed looks like it.
[11:36] <Marquel> and now a
[11:37] <Marquel> i am too much of a coward to try, while that thing is busy doing critical stuff and i can't afford an untinded reboot.
[11:39] <spanglesontoast> hello does anyone know how to fix Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 ?
[11:41] <Marquel> spanglesontoast: what means "to fix"? being cynical i could say "buy a proper NIC, not some cheap RealTek stuff", but beyond that "fixing" can mean too many things to just guess.
[11:43] <spanglesontoast> I mean the driver in the kernel doesn't actually work from the get go, it simply keeps retrying the connection even using dhcp.
[11:44] <spanglesontoast> what kernel version is provided on the 20.10 livecd ?
[11:45] <spanglesontoast> because that works
[11:48] <faLUKE> hello. After apt full-upgrade I obtain this on ubuntu 20.04: "
[11:48] <faLUKE> libopenmpi-dev:amd64 depends on openmpi-bin (>= 3.0.0-1); however:
[11:48] <faLUKE>   Package openmpi-bin is not configured yet
[11:48] <faLUKE> "
[11:48] <faLUKE> how can i fix it? thanks
[11:49] <Sbur3> Is there a channel for questions about setting up a 5.1 audio system to my 7.1 Asus Xonar AE audio card?
[11:49] <Sbur3> I am using Ubuntu
[11:51] <TJ-> faLUKE: "sudo dpkg --configure openmpi-bin"
[11:53] <faLUKE> TJ-: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7zFs2fn53X/
[11:54] <faLUKE> TJ-: I'm trying this https://stackoverflow.com/questions/62464085/openmpi-bin-error-after-update-kubuntu-18-04-to-20-04
[11:55] <faLUKE> TJ-: it worked, thanks
[11:59] <c03> hi
[12:00] <c03> I accidentally deleted all files on my boot partition. I am running a luks encrypted system partition, and an efi boot partition additionally. I have reinstalled the efi partition, but am unsure on how to recover the boot partition
[12:01] <c03> I am chrooted into the system partition with the boot partition mounted as /boot and the efi mounted as /boot/efi
[12:01] <c03> the efi partition has the esp and boot flags set.
[12:20] <TJ-> c03: you'll need to reinstall the installed kernels in order to put them back and cause building of the initialramfs initrd.img files and rerun grub-install and finally update-grub
[12:22] <TJ-> c03: "sudo apt install --reinstall $( apt list --installed 'linux-image-*' 2>/dev/null | cut -f 1 -d / | grep -v Listing ) "  should do the first part
[12:34] <c03> TJ-: Thanks
[12:39] <c03> TJ-: Getting an E: Internal Error, No file name for linux-image-5.4.0-62-generic:amd64
[12:41] <c03> Trying to just install linux-image-generic results in an error; Failed to create symlink to vmlinuz-5.4.0-62-generic: Operation not permitted at /usr/bin/linux-update-symlinks line 64
[12:50] <TJ-> c03: ahhh, looks like you've got a foreign-arch in there too to cause the ":amd64" arch label to be appended
[12:51] <c03> Yes, I got desperate and copied /boot from my laptop earlier. Horrible idea.
[12:52] <TJ-> c03: probably need to manually fix-up the 'apt install' command to avoid that
[12:52] <TJ-> if you haven't already, use this to get the list then edit it manually before feeding it to 'apt install --reinstall' " echo $( apt list --installed 'linux-image-*' 2>/dev/null | cut -f 1 -d / | grep -v Listing ) "
[12:52] <c03> TJ-: How do you mean? Currently I'm just attempting apt install linux-image-generic, and that fails on the symlink creation.
[12:53] <TJ-> hang on, maybe we need to refine the list to just the versioned images
[12:55] <reactormonk1> I've got an 18.04 machine here which doesn't always boot correctly - the BIOS does post every time, but afterwards I only get a black screen about 60% of the time - booting via recovery works 100% though, but the resolution is crap.
[12:55] <TJ-> c03: "sudo apt install --reinstall $( apt list --installed 'linux-image-5*' 2>/dev/null | cut -f 1 -d / | grep -v Listing | sed 's/:amd64//' ) "
[12:57] <c03> TJ-: The listing doesn't contain any :amd64 images
[12:57] <c03> (before the sed)
[12:58] <c03> So I'm not really sure where it gets the :amd64 from.
[13:01] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[13:28] <TJ-> c03: then :amd64 will be showing up as a Depends: of one of the parent packages, most likely linux-image-generic
[13:29] <nanthencodeneeth> GRub is not comming after installation of ubuntu 20.04 its booting into windows
[13:29] <nanthencodeneeth> any idea how to correct this
[13:32] <oerheks> nanthencodeneeth, hold left shift or esc key ?
[13:32] <oerheks> !grub
[13:33] <nanthencodeneeth> i installed windows first then i installed ubuntu .
[13:33] <nanthencodeneeth> @ubottu
[13:33] <oerheks> that should be oke
[13:37] <urmogo> hello, how to produce a core dump of 3rd party application
[13:37] <urmogo> apport seems to skip them
[13:39] <oerheks> if apport skips that coredump, nothing gets written in /var/crash/ .. But it is disabled by default in stable releases.
[13:40] <oerheks> sudo systemctl enable apport.service or sudo service apport start. to make it work again?
[13:41] <urmogo> it works but reports the app is not from apt source
[13:42] <urmogo> it's a custom program which crash sometimes and i would like to investigate why, but it's hard without core file
[13:49] <oerheks> ask themaintainer of that special app?
[13:50] <lotuspsychje> or if its on launchpad ubuntu-bug package?
[13:52] <urmogo> ERROR: apport (pid 38996) Fri Dec 11 15:09:01 2020: executable does not belong to a package, ignoring
[13:53] <lotuspsychje> not an official ubuntu package?
[13:53] <urmogo> yea it's a compiled application
[13:53] <urmogo> I'm running Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS on rasberypi
[13:58] <lotuspsychje> urmogo: start it from terminal and leave a journalctl -f open to debug it yourself perhaps
[13:59] <lotuspsychje> urmogo: we only support the official ubuntu packages from the repos here
[14:00] <vlm> is there a way to set a data cap on outgoing traffic for an interface?
[14:01] <vlm> i mean not to limit bandwidth, i want to set a hard limit of outgoing data and then shut down the interface
[14:05] <Intelo> My audio speakers stopped working. Pavucontrol also does not shows them. I tried  sudo alsactl init 0; sudo alsa force-reload   but that does not helps. Any clues?
[14:11] <reactormonk1> Intelo, journalctl -b
[14:29] <Intelo> reactormonk1: https://termbin.com/lm3z
[14:33] <reactormonk1> Intelo, I assume builtin speakers?
[14:33] <reactormonk1> There's a few like pulseaudio[26996]: Error opening PCM device hw:4: No such file or directory
[14:34] <Intelo> reactormonk1: its a laptop having builtin speakers but I have connected external ones. both don't work
[14:34] <reactormonk1> Maybe there's something in dmesg that indicates a hardware failure?
[14:35] <Intelo> https://termbin.com/4ii0
[14:37] <reactormonk1> Intelo, what does the configuration tab of pavucontrol show?
[14:40] <Intelo> reactormonk1: https://imgur.com/7UYPq0k.png
[14:41] <reactormonk1> Intelo, does the first one offer you any configuration options if you click on it?
[14:41] <reactormonk1> ... also, is that the builtin audio?
[14:42] <Intelo> reactormonk1: the last 3 are all externals
[14:42] <Intelo> last two points to same mic I have
[14:43] <Intelo> don't know about the top one
[14:45] <reactormonk1> Intelo, if you click on the "off" on the top one, what do you get?
[14:49] <Intelo> reactormonk1: https://imgur.com/rXjuoHn.png
[14:50] <reactormonk1> Intelo, scroll up, look for "audio output" or "audio duplex"
[14:50] <reactormonk1> ... click on it
[14:52] <Marquel> TJ-: it was true, i had to do it from the hypervisor - the cpus started to appear in the VM and were startable (except no. 4 which refused to become online).
[14:52] <Intelo> reactormonk1: https://imgur.com/G5P09WB.png
[14:52] <reactormonk1> Intelo, ahh duh. I was hoping for an easy resolution.
[14:53] <Intelo> reactormonk1: in a nutshell what seems to be the problem?
[14:53] <reactormonk1> Intelo, I was _hoping_ it was just a bad pulseaudio config and it didn't show up in pulseaudio because of that.
[14:53] <reactormonk1> ... which isn't the case :-(
[14:53] <Intelo> hm
[14:53] <Intelo> ok
[14:54] <reactormonk1> Sorry, I was looking for anything that would point to something obvious, but I couldn't see anything.
[14:54] <TJ-> Marquel: thanks for letting us know :)
[14:58] <Marquel> TJ-: cpu4/online produced an I/O error when trying to write a 1 into it.
[15:31] <javi404> anyone having performance problem with 20.04.2?
[15:31] <javi404> radeon driver
[15:35] <javi404> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/Ykf8HQJ9Kq/
[15:38] <genkgo> Hello, I have a question on network connections. I have a primary VPN that controls the full network (unchecked the local network only box). But I also have another VPNs with the local network box checked. When I first connect to the primary VPN, then I cannot connect to any IP of the second VPN. While if I first connect to the secondary VPN, I can reach both networks.
[15:40] <genkgo> How can I make sure the order of connecting to the VPNs does not matter?
[15:40] <summonner> sounds like a netmask or ip restriction in place for one of the VPNs. You might want to check in #networking genkgo - they're more on topic for that stuff
[15:40] <genkgo> summonner: thanks, will check there!
[15:53] <coconut> javi404, seeing no one answers: do you have the same problems on a recent 5.4 kernel?
[15:54] <javi404> coconut: im gonna have to check
[15:54] <javi404> let me save all my tabs and such and revert, what is the proper way to do that?
[15:54] <javi404> in fedora i just pick in grub
[15:54] <javi404> not sure ubuntu
[15:55] <javi404> also posted here just to document: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2457547&p=14018855#post14018855
[15:56] <coconut> javi404, you can do that too in grub with ubuntu iirc, and if not you can customize kernels in grub with "grub customizer".
[15:57] <javi404> ok, i guess let me test grub customezer in a vm before i do something crazy
[15:57] <javi404> i can't blow up this workstation at the moment.
[15:58] <javi404> i did recently enable grub so i can pick memtest86 on boot which doesn't work btw.
[15:58] <javi404> i had a mem problem / freezing, but reseated the dimms and all is solid now except the performance issue.
[16:02] <coconut> javi404, grub customizer is easy to use, i have it installed by default to change booting kernel versions when something is wrong.
[16:03] <javi404> coconut: so just install it, run it, that's it?
[16:03] <javi404> when i boot it will ask me?
[16:05] <coconut> javi404, no you change the grub config to boot a kernel version by default that you want, that's all. You just have to push the right kernel to the top of gui of grub customizer.
[16:05] <javi404> got it
[16:05] <coconut> The save it and let it run. After that, reboot and fingers crossed.
[16:05] <javi404> ok
[16:06] <oerheks> javi404, Radeon HD 4250 is below the minimum specs, that Radeon HD 5670/5690/5730 should be oke
[16:06] <coconut> *then
[16:06] <javi404> yeah, but there is a noticable change after the update
[16:06] <javi404> huge
[16:06] <oerheks> openradeon is for ATI 5xxx and up
[16:13] <zen_coder> how can I make sure that my files created on a samba share are all marked with read/write access of a certain group?
[16:15] <oerheks>  answered yesterday; zen_coder, with ACL ? https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-manage-acls-on-linux
[16:15] <oerheks> anyway, writing as a member of that group should be sufficient, no?
[16:16] <zen_coder> oerheks: what I have atm is the new files create have read access by that specific group
[16:17] <zen_coder> but not write access
[16:17] <zen_coder> I used in the samba config the "force group" entry
[16:55] <ghost2911> Hi. What is the simplest way to set permissions 774 for user www-data, for a file or folder created inside /var/www ?
[16:56] <ghost2911> permissions should be set automatically when file or folder created inside /var/www I mean
[17:01] <coconut> The software updater keeps asking for removing old kernels in a popup a lot. Can i change that somewhere to not do that anymore? I want the kernels to stay.
[17:02] <pavlos> ghost2911: probably you need 775 for /var/www and owner www-data
[17:03] <ghost2911> pavlos probably, but I want that everytime something new created inside /var/www gets 775 and owner www-data
[17:03] <ghost2911> no matter what )
[17:04] <sanderx> Hi all! I recently upgraded from Ubuntu 18.04 to 20.04 and had a problem during that upgrade with initramfs. It is probably this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/1897747
[17:05] <sanderx> Although everything seems to be working as expected I want to be sure. How can I check that everything is working as expected?
[17:05] <pavlos> ghost2911: chmod 775 -R /var/www and chown www-data:www-data /var/www
[17:07] <ghost2911> pavlos, yes this sets once permissions what happens if you create a new file
[17:08] <ghost2911> If I'm root then the file gets root user and group also but I want www-data
[17:08] <ghost2911> I saw sgid could do the thing at least for owners
[17:10] <pavlos> ghost2911: if owner of /var/www is www-data, any file/dir created under, will inherit that dir's owner/perms
[17:11] <ghost2911> no it takes default the user you are using
[17:12] <seamammal> i can google but if anyone knows why my 20.04 ubuntu dont recognize my sony mico sd card :)
[17:12] <seamammal> :(
[17:12] <seamammal> drives me mad
[17:12] <seamammal> content in the micro sd from sony camera is not shown on ubuntu altho the OS does recognize and open the sd card
[17:13] <ghost2911> that's why you have all those acl, umasks etc cause by default is not enough sometimes
[17:18] <lotuspsychje> seamammal: recover data with photorec, then try to reformat with gparted
[17:20] <seamammal> ok hope it works thanks
[17:24] <seamammal> lotuspsychje:  which one to download:)? https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/gpart
[17:25] <lotuspsychje> seamammal: sudo apt install gparted testdisk
[17:25] <sla3k> Hey all, so I wanted my user to do 'sudo su' without a password and added 'myuser ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL' to '/etc/sudoers' file; followed by logging out and login back, when I do sudo su it is still asking for a password? following one of the posts here: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/426644/allowing-sudo-su-without-password-over-ubuntu
[17:26] <sla3k> what is it that I am doing wrong? thanks
[17:26] <sla3k> OS: Ubuntu 18.04
[17:30] <leftyfb> sla3k: log out and back in
[17:30] <leftyfb> sla3k: also make sure your line in the sudoers file is above any include lines
[17:31] <sla3k> leftyfb: did that
[17:31] <sla3k> a couple of times actually
[17:31] <compdoc> sla3k, create a file like:   /etc/sudoers.d/010_sla3k-nopasswd
[17:32] <compdoc> in the file write:  sla3k ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[17:34] <sla3k> LOL, looks like I locked myself out, FML..getting error on sudo su now, syntax error in /etc/sudoers
[17:35] <sla3k> Since this is a fresh VM off of Proxmox, I'll just go ahead and re-install and start afresh
[17:37] <micros> Does anyone know of a service that can check a processes main thread liveliness  (verify its not long term blocked)?  I checked some suggestions from earlier but they arent quite the right thing.  Like a heartbeat request/response, or a way to do this through the proc file system; or other method.  Possibly, make a case why its not needed?
[17:37] <leftyfb> sla3k: when you make these changes, you should always use visudo
[17:38] <micros> leftyfb - oh yes, learned that the hard way!
[17:38] <leftyfb> I also make sure to login on another terminal and su to root and leave it logged in in case I need to fix anything
[17:38] <leftyfb> as root*
[17:39] <sla3k> I generally do all the above if this would be critical VM but I am just playing around, my ub16-docker VM is very well intact and I would think twice messing with that one
[17:49] <seamammal> thanks it works
[17:50] <yosin_> anyone know any g ood guides to installing tensorflow on ubuntu mate?
[17:50] <yosin_> theres not many helpful places to go and i keep coming across an error
[17:51] <leftyfb> yosin_: you'll have to seek support from https://www.tensorflow.org/install
[17:53] <yosin_> leftyfb: ok thank you. it pulls up an error saying Defaulting to user installation because normal site-packages is not writeable
[17:54] <yosin_> so i figured it was more of a generic issue than a tensorflow issue
[17:54] <leftyfb> yosin_: that error sounds specific to the installer, not ubuntu
[17:55] <Intelo> reactormonk1: thanks its ok :) I appreciate
[17:57] <DaCheat> Hello -- having an issue with gvfsd and gvfsd-backends nautilus and thunar won't show any network backends, reinstalled gvfsd and gvfsd-backends (happens on 18.04 and 20.04)
[17:58] <DaCheat> i get "failed to open / on ". Operation not supported when i try to hit "browse network"
[17:59] <DaCheat> also seeing this: GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **: 12:59:30.514: g_volume_monitor_get_mounts: assertion 'G_IS_VOLUME_MONITOR (volume_monitor)' failed
[18:05] <yosin_> thank you lefty
[18:10] <sla3k> compdoc: creating a file under /etc/sudoers.d/ worked without any issues
[18:10] <sla3k> Thanks ;) cheers
[18:10] <compdoc> good
[18:11] <compdoc> its nice not having to type your password all the time
[18:12] <sla3k> Yea, specially when it's a sandbox
[18:18] <dave_uy> I have a machine which is failing to update zfsutils-linux (0.8.3-1ubuntu12.6). What should I do?
[18:18] <dave_uy> I think it might be this issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zfs-linux/+bug/1914146
[18:21] <cluelessperson> When you hit the Windows key on ubuntu
[18:21] <cluelessperson> what's this overlay that pops up called?
[18:22] <cluelessperson> shows running windows and a search box
[18:23] <ThinkT510> isn't that called the Dash? (not to be confused with the dash shell)
[18:35] <DaCheat> also getting an error "nautilus: /usr/local/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libffi.so.7: no version information available"
[18:40] <javi404> coconut:
[18:41] <javi404> tried 5.4 kernel, broke everything.
[18:41] <javi404> had to boot back into 5.8.0.41
[18:41] <javi404> fuck my life
[18:41] <javi404> im gonna need VS code like tomorrow
[18:41] <sanderx> Hi, does anybody care to help me with initramfs?
[18:42] <Maik> javi404: mind your language please
[18:42] <javi404> Maik: sorry
[18:42] <javi404> will do
[18:48] <jiggawattz> Maik: "f***  my life" is not so bad
[18:49] <jiggawattz> it's not obscene language directed at anyone else
[18:49] <hggdh> jiggawattz: still, we would really like you to mind your language
[18:50] <jiggawattz> hggdh: Me specifically?
[18:50] <jiggawattz> I didn't say it ;)
[18:50] <coconut> javi404, other solution would be to use your onboard intel or amd graphics without dedicated gpu.
[18:50] <javi404> coconut: have 3 screens, using both onboard and dedicated
[18:50] <hggdh> grep fuck
[18:50] <javi404> hggdh: you are gonna get yelled at by Maik
[18:51] <hggdh> I apologise
[18:51] <javi404> I accept your appologies, carry on friend
[18:51] <coconut> javi404, ok yes sorry then, cannot help
[18:51] <hggdh> javi404: the above is for you
[18:51]  * javi404 goes to my own channel to rant.
[18:51] <javi404> this sucks
[18:51] <hggdh> jiggawattz: the apology was for you (and the others in the channel)
[18:51] <javi404> i can type into vs code for like 2 seconds, and then unusable
[18:51] <javi404> can't boot 5.4
[18:51] <javi404> regret update
[18:52]  * javi404 googles for bucks
[18:52] <javi404> bugs
[18:52] <Maik> some people should read the irc guidelines more often ;)
[18:52] <coconut> you cannot get back in 5.8 either?
[18:53] <Maik> javi404: also i didn't jell, i asked you kindly
[18:53] <Maik> jell/yell
[18:53] <hggdh> but this is enough. Message has been passed, we can let it rest now
[18:54] <Maik> agreed
[18:55] <javi404> ugh, there is a driver on the amd site, from 2015
[18:56] <javi404> that doesn't sound safe
[18:56] <sanderx> Got disconnected. Did anyone respond to my question regarding a the problem with initramfs during the upgrade?
[18:57] <javi404> sanderx: what issue are you having?
[18:57] <sanderx> During upgrade it complained about somehting with initramfs. It might be this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/1897747
[18:59] <sanderx> It seems as if the upgrade otherwise went smoothly. But I want to be sure that nothing is broken...
[18:59] <sanderx> My question would be: How can I do that? In particular, how can I check if anything is wrong with initramfs or something depending on it?
[19:03] <semitones> Hey, feeling like a noob here trying to use putty to connect to a ubuntu server. I want to match the host keys, but they are showing in different formats. PuTTY is showing me the ssh-ed25519 key fingerprint in a hex format. ssh-keygen -lf /etc/ssh/ssh_host_ed25519_key.pub is showing it to me in a sha256 format. ssh-keygen -E md5 ssh_host_ed25519_key.pub doesn't work. Am I on the right track
[19:08] <semitones> looks like I was putting -E in the wrong place. Oops
[19:09] <dave_uy> I created a forum post here. Any help would be appreciated! https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2457556
[19:10] <leftyfb> semitones: why are you using putty to ssh when ssh is already built into ubuntu?
[19:11] <semitones> The computer I am using to connect to the ubuntu server is a windows one.
[19:11] <semitones> at the moment
[19:17] <javi404> sanderx: i get an error on kernel upgrades because I'm booting off of md devices
[19:17] <sanderx> What is an md device?
[19:18] <sanderx> And did that distro upgrade include a kernel upgrade?
[19:20] <pavlos> sanderx: I think md = software raid
[19:23] <hispeed> better join ubuntu since centos is dead :D
[19:24] <compdoc> too late, ubuntu membership is closed
[19:26] <hispeed> ohh but I know someone from the ubuntu community so i have connections
[19:27] <compdoc> alrighty then
[19:29] <UnexpectedEOF> what is nice?
[19:29] <UnexpectedEOF> I read a bit about it
[19:30] <oerheks> not much to read: man nice;  nice - run a program with modified scheduling priority
[19:31] <hispeed> compdoc I already run one ubuntu server so at least I know how to install it, hehe.
[19:32] <UnexpectedEOF> I mean, how will it affect the program?
[19:32] <oerheks> with more/less priority?
[19:32] <UnexpectedEOF> less
[19:32] <UnexpectedEOF> like -20
[19:33] <oerheks> What the effect for your situation means, you will find out?
[19:33] <UnexpectedEOF> there is a program that I don't want to use up too much cpu
[19:34] <UnexpectedEOF> a bot that I run that I don't care too much about
[19:36] <sanderx> @pavlos thanks.
[19:37] <sanderx> javi404, I don't think that is the case for me.
[20:09] <pavlos> UnexpectedEOF: you can, "man nice" to read all about nice
[20:10] <pavlos> UnexpectedEOF: also, "man renice"
[20:11] <UnexpectedEOF> ok
[20:11] <UnexpectedEOF> thank you
[20:41] <f4ulty> hey fam <3
[20:42] <matsaman> heyo
[20:42] <f4ulty> heyo! :D
[20:42] <f4ulty> man, I have missed IRC :D
[20:43] <f4ulty> old EFNet head from 20+ years ago :P
[20:48] <sarnold> it's a bit quieter these days but still the best place to get help :)
[20:50] <f4ulty0ne> absolutely :D
[20:50] <f4ulty0ne> 100.
[20:50] <f4ulty0ne> anyone have an opinion on keybase?
[20:50] <f4ulty0ne> trying it out :X
[20:51] <matsaman> for what, exactly?
[20:53] <RadSurfer> SOMEONE please explain why putting "Dock" on right-hand side obscures those 3 buttons needed to access OTHER ITEMS of your applications? How do we then switch to the other pages of applications?!?
[20:53] <leftyfb> RadSurfer: can you explain what you are referring to? What version of Ubuntu?
[20:54] <RadSurfer> 20.04
[20:54] <RadSurfer> You know that panel of "favorites" that appears usually on left-hand side? slide-out panel?
[20:54] <leftyfb> RadSurfer: the "dock" is on the left side by default
[20:54] <RadSurfer> Yes, but when moved... how do we switch between pages of applications
[20:55] <RadSurfer> Try placing it on Right hand side... it covers up 3 BUTTONS
[20:55] <leftyfb> RadSurfer: does this happen to new windows you open or just existing windows?
[20:55] <RadSurfer> what windows?
[20:55] <leftyfb> RadSurfer: the windows with the buttons you're referring to
[20:55] <RadSurfer> this is about accessing the collection of applications (icons)
[20:56] <matsaman> did Ubuntu actually officially make the dock moveable? I thought that was always third party hacks
[20:56] <RadSurfer> Yes, you have been able to move it for a long time now
[20:56] <matsaman> cool
[20:56] <RadSurfer> except its weird how its implemented
[20:56] <matsaman> it's probably really hacked in =P
[20:56] <RadSurfer> Grrr....
[20:56] <RadSurfer> and he doesn't know what I mean by switching between pages of apps
[20:56] <leftyfb> matsaman: nah, it's right in the default settings
[20:57] <matsaman> leftyfb: cool
[20:57] <matsaman> RadSurfer: screenshot would make it apparent to anybody
[20:57] <RadSurfer> At BOTTOM of the panel, theres these little DOT-pattern, by clicking on that Dot pattern, brings up a NEW screen of Applications to select (launch)
[20:58] <RadSurfer> there are usually 3 pages of those applications I can launch, understand now?
[20:58] <RadSurfer> I want to know how to manually switch between them... a keyboard short cut
[20:58] <leftyfb> RadSurfer: I hit the <super> key and type the application I want to open. I mainly don't use the icons in the dock
[20:59] <leftyfb> application *name
[20:59]  * RadSurfer sighs
[20:59] <RadSurfer> anyone have a clue what I'm describing here?
[20:59] <JoeLlama> Hi there!  I have older (2007) Intel Core 2 computers with SATA 1 and 4G memory running at 2.4 GHz.  I want a version of Ubuntu that will run fast with out a bunch of fancy graphic features that will slow the systems down.  What version of Ubuntu do you guys think I should get and where do I get it please? :)
[20:59] <RadSurfer> 3x3 dot pattern takes you to where I am describing...
[21:00] <RadSurfer> I like that question JoeLlama :)
[21:00] <JoeLlama> thanks RadSurfer
[21:00] <leftyfb> JoeLlama: have you tried lubuntu or ubuntu mate?
[21:01] <JoeLlama> I have used xubuntu
[21:01] <RadSurfer> Oh! I figured out my problem! doh!
[21:01] <RadSurfer> xubuntu was very cool in its day; haven't tried it recently!
[21:01] <leftyfb> JoeLlama: try lubuntu and mate
[21:02] <matsaman> JoeLlama: not dedicated GPUs?
[21:02] <JoeLlama> hrm I had issues with lubuntu leftyfb
[21:02] <matsaman> no* dedicated GPUs? that is
[21:02] <JoeLlama> the GPU is GeForce 8600
[21:02] <leftyfb> JoeLlama: feel free to try ubuntu mate or ask for help with lubuntu when you're running it
[21:02] <matsaman> well any dedicated GPU is going to make any "fancy graphic features" work perfectly fine
[21:02] <matsaman> any dedicated GPU whatsoever
[21:02] <JoeLlama> hrm ok
[21:02] <RadSurfer> for what it's worth, after clicking on that 3x3 dot pattern from slide-out "panel", goto ALL applications, then just type Down-array, or page-down! it advances!
[21:03] <JoeLlama> how does lubuntu compare to xubuntu?
[21:03] <matsaman> JoeLlama: it's meant to be lighter
[21:03] <matsaman> I couldn't tell you if it is
[21:03] <JoeLlama> and should  I use 16.04
[21:03] <RadSurfer> less elaborate desktop
[21:03] <matsaman> the nature of Debian/Ubuntu binary packages is such that a lot of optional support is built-in
[21:03] <matsaman> so Xfce comes with GNOME support you don't need
[21:03] <matsaman> and LXDE probably comes with similar things you don't need
[21:04] <JoeLlama> unno what those are matsaman
[21:04] <matsaman> JoeLlama: you should use the latest LTS version of Ubuntu at the very least
[21:04] <matsaman> Xfce is the desktop environment Xubuntu uses; LXDE is the one Lubuntu uses
[21:04] <JoeLlama> oh ok
[21:04] <JoeLlama> xubuntu worked pretty well
[21:04] <leftyfb> JoeLlama: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso  that will give you 32bit 18.04. But you'll have to install your own desktop packages including your D
[21:04] <matsaman> GNOME is essentially the default Ubuntu desktop, it is comparatively enormous
[21:04] <leftyfb> DE*
[21:04] <matsaman> as is KDE
[21:05] <JoeLlama> what version of xubuntu should I use>
[21:05] <matsaman> Xfce is a lovely desktop
[21:05] <f4ulty0ne> this true? - keybase app acquired by ZOOM.
[21:05] <f4ulty0ne> :/
[21:05] <matsaman> whichever is the newest that isn't a beta
[21:05] <matsaman> f4ulty0ne: that's what I heard yes
[21:05] <matsaman> f4ulty0ne: what is it you even want keybase for?
[21:05] <f4ulty0ne> omfg.
[21:05] <f4ulty0ne> :X
[21:05] <f4ulty0ne> I thought keybase was a neat chat app.
[21:05] <f4ulty0ne> over it now :D
[21:05] <matsaman> I mean you have IRC, so...
[21:06] <f4ulty0ne> and dang glad :D
[21:06] <JoeLlama> I dunno what archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso is
[21:06] <matsaman> all chat system protocols can be encrypted at this point
[21:06] <f4ulty0ne> !!!
[21:06] <JoeLlama> what is mini.iso?
[21:06] <matsaman> JoeLlama: probably just a smaller image that is uglier during installation
[21:06] <matsaman> and the same after installation
[21:07] <leftyfb> JoeLlama: it's a stripped down installer
[21:07] <javi404> anyone running radeon kernel driver on 20.04.2
[21:07] <javi404> ?
[21:07] <JoeLlama> hrm leftyfb said I will have to install a desktop package with it... where do I get that>
[21:07] <leftyfb> JoeLlama: during the install it should ask you which desktop to install
[21:07] <matsaman> JoeLlama: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/20.04.2/release/
[21:07] <JoeLlama> okay leftyfb so what is that iso?  xubuntu?
[21:07] <matsaman> JoeLlama: chances are you have an amd64 architecture
[21:08] <JoeLlama> matsaman it's core 2 intel
[21:08] <JoeLlama> hrm...
[21:08] <matsaman> JoeLlama: that's amd64
[21:08] <JoeLlama> oh ok :) heh
[21:09] <JoeLlama> so then I am looking at Xubuntu 20.04.2 LTS (Focal Fossa)
[21:09] <JoeLlama> how does that compare with your link leftyfb?
[21:09] <matsaman> 'bionic' is for version 18; there's really no reason to not use 20.04 at this point
[21:09] <f4ulty0ne> hey fam, anyone recommend a good BNC/ZNC?
[21:09] <f4ulty0ne> I was checking out xshellz
[21:09] <leftyfb> oh, ok, if it's 64bit, then go with 20.04
[21:09] <leftyfb> f4ulty0ne: please keep on topic here. This is Ubuntu support
[21:09] <JoeLlama> hrm ok ok
[21:09] <leftyfb> !ot | f4ulty0ne
[21:10] <JoeLlama> so th3n I am going with http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/20.04.2/release/
[21:10] <f4ulty0ne> sorry lefty, forgive me :(
[21:10] <f4ulty0ne> won't happen again
[21:10] <f4ulty0ne> <3
[21:10] <matsaman> JoeLlama: desktop-amd64, yes
[21:10] <JoeLlama> o k !
[21:10] <JoeLlama> thanks guys (:
[21:10] <matsaman> JoeLlama: if it turns out you don't like it
[21:10] <matsaman> JoeLlama: you can always change your desktop environment without reinstalling
[21:10] <matsaman> if you want
[21:10] <JoeLlama> what's not to like :)
[21:11]  * matsaman shrugs
[21:11] <JoeLlama> okay thanks bye for now
[21:11] <matsaman> later on
[21:26] <goodTimesImmort> Ideally I'm trying to copy the contents of a folder from local to remote where duplicates are replaced and other files already ther are left intact.
[21:26] <goodTimesImmort> Would this be the result of scp -r directory/ me@server: /home/destination_with_different_name/
[21:26] <goodTimesImmort> Or is that just going to copy the directory into the destination?
[21:30] <leftyfb> goodTimesImmort: look into rsync
[21:32] <matsaman> goodTimesImmort: does sound like plain rsync -a or -av would do what you want
[21:33] <goodTimesImmort> Thank you for your guidance random citizens. I shall do some research.
[21:35] <matsaman> rsync -av ./dir/ user@host:some/other/place/
[21:36] <matsaman> just be careful with the trailing slash with rsync
[21:36] <matsaman> rsync -a ./dir else/where/ will create else/where/dir/, but rsync -a ./dir/ else/where/ will fill else/where/ with /dir/'s contents
[21:37] <matsaman> when in doubt I would say always use a trailing slash for directories, and always explicitly include the name you want at the end of the destination path
[21:39] <matsaman> and if you use sshfs to mount the destination ahead of time, instead of using user@host:path, you can just specify the path, and you'll get tab completion
[21:48] <toonstruck> heya peeps, anyone alive? I am in desperate need of hints/help...I have set up ssmtp ( works perfectly, tested sending via commandline ) and trying to get php mail to send mails... php reports everything as working fine but I never get any mails
[21:51] <pi0> in .desktop how to i launch an app as root
[21:53] <f4ulty0ne> toonstruck, are you using wordpress?
[21:54] <f4ulty0ne> PHPmailer()
[21:54] <leftyfb> pi0: what application do you think you need to run as root?
[21:54] <toonstruck> no, just simply the built in mail function ( mail(reciver@email.something, subject, message) )
[21:55] <pi0> thinkorswim
[21:55] <pi0> OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: ignoring option MaxPermSize=256m; support was removed in 8.0
[21:56] <pi0> getting this error message
[21:56] <f4ulty0ne> pi0.. sick nick :D
[21:56] <f4ulty0ne> like it.
[21:56] <leftyfb> pi0: why on earth would you want to run that as root?
[21:57] <pi0> f4ulty0ne: thank you :)
[21:58] <toonstruck> f4ulty0ne: any ideas? :P  I did edit php.ini to reflect ssmtp location and flags
[21:58] <f4ulty0ne> pi0: soy-tain-ly :D
[21:59] <f4ulty0ne> certainly :D
[21:59] <pi0> leftyfb: not sure how to resolve this issue
[21:59] <leftyfb> pi0: contact Ameritrade for support with it. I can tell you running it as root is not the right solution.
[22:01] <f4ulty0ne> Ameritrade, meh :/
[22:09] <toonstruck> and then there was silence :P
[22:11] <mihael> How do I setup this in netplan? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qXcKHmDphy/
[22:12] <f4ulty0ne> lulz
[22:12] <f4ulty0ne> :X
[22:13] <leftyfb> mihael: https://getlabsdone.com/how-to-configure-netplan-network/#VLAN-interfaces-on-ubuntu-using-netplan
[22:14] <leftyfb> mihael: example of MTU setting: https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-bionic-netplan
[22:15] <leftyfb> toonstruck: feel free to join #ubuntu-offtopic for chat. This is a support channel where there isn't constant chatting
[22:19] <mihael> leftyfb: thank you
[22:49] <PaulDot> Hey, I'm having an Issue while trying to dual-boot Ubuntu 18.04. It throws the error "failed to load ldlinux.c32 ". Could anyone help me??
[22:52] <oerheks> did you check the iso after download?
[22:52] <oerheks> !md5sum
[22:53] <PaulDot> No, let me try that
[22:53] <oerheks> and how did you write the iso?
[22:53] <PaulDot> Using Rufus
[22:54] <sarnold> ah, try again with dd
[22:54] <PaulDot> dd?
[22:54] <oerheks> depends on the host
[22:54] <PaulDot> what are u on about?
[22:54] <oerheks> if linux, yes, dd the iso
[22:55] <PaulDot> nah, my main thing is windows
[22:55] <PaulDot> so i'm running the Rufus flash on windows
[22:55] <PaulDot> and then I'm trying to boot ubuntu from the USB
[22:56] <PaulDot> I'm on windows, so that brew thingy won't' work :P
[22:57] <oerheks> sarnold, rufus is officially mentioned, i am not fond of it either https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows#1-overview
[22:57] <oerheks> but thing is, is this an UEFI machine or legacy bios?
[22:57] <PaulDot> I tried both
[22:57] <PaulDot> first normal UEFI
[22:57] <PaulDot> then the legacy bios
[22:58] <PaulDot> both didn't work
[22:58] <sarnold> oerheks: zounds that's a lot more complicated than I expected
[22:59] <oerheks> you should choose whatever windows is installed in.
[22:59] <oerheks> UEFI should go fine
[22:59] <PaulDot> k, lemme try again with just UEFI
[22:59] <oerheks> ldlinux.c32 error suggests the iso is damaged
[22:59] <PaulDot> I just re-flashed it, still the same
[23:00] <PaulDot> so, how do I check the integrity of the iso file?
[23:00] <genii> !shasums
[23:00] <genii> Hm
[23:01] <PaulDot> well, that works like a charm xD
[23:01] <oerheks> read back?
[23:01] <oerheks> !md5sum
[23:01] <genii> oerheks: I knew it was something like that....
[23:01] <PaulDot> But, hohw do I run this on windows...
[23:02] <PaulDot> I don't have brew installed
[23:02] <PaulDot> Should I just install that?
[23:03] <oerheks>  winMD5Sum. https://askubuntu.com/a/607829
[23:03] <genii> Windows has a sum checker built in already called certutil
[23:04] <PaulDot> k, hold on, lemme try that
[23:05] <genii> So something like:    CertUtil -hashfile C:\wherevertheisofileis\isofile.img MD5
[23:05] <PaulDot> oh sweet
[23:07] <PaulDot> one sec
[23:09] <PaulDot> output: 44343bc1373c6dc826ebb58839155c39
[23:11] <PaulDot> now what? Compare that to another one
[23:11] <PaulDot> now what? Compare that to another one?
[23:14] <sarnold> there should be an MD5SUMS file on the archive with the md5sum of the iso you've downlaoded. in the directory
[23:30] <arooni> anyone have this problem: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1245108/some-snap-apps-dont-start-second-or-subsequent-time ;; snaps like authy only seem to launch the first time (20.04)
[23:31] <sarnold> arooni: is there anything in journalctl output?
[23:34] <arooni> sarnold:just "Feb 04 16:37:42 LilArooni snapd[1542]: storehelpers.go:551: cannot refresh: snap has no updates available: "authy", "canonical-livep" and Feb 04 17:27:06 LilArooni albert.desktop[10059]: 17:27:06 [DEBG:applications] Indexing desktop file: authy_authy.desktop`"
[23:36] <sarnold> arooni: hmm none of those sound like trouble :(
[23:49] <arooni> apparently others have had this issue before