[19:44] <bobbycheetah> hi. apologies in advance for the lengthy questions.  i have an older pc (not crazy old, still 64bit) that I would like to put ubuntustudio on.  Do I still go for the latest release or choose an older release?  If older release, what are the main hw specs i should use to determine which release?  My main goal on this machine is get audacity working solidly so that I can begin project o
[19:44] <bobbycheetah> f digitizing my LP records.  So is ubuntustudio overkill?  Currently, i'm using MX Linux and having an aggravating time between it and audacity.
[20:56] <wonko> OvenWerks: Ok, universal wallwart doing its jobs nicely. The AF4 is now working on the mac
[20:56] <wonko> no drivers installed or anything, just out of the box
[20:56] <wonko> I wonder if/how I can change the frame and period
[21:07] <wonko> Ok, I don't know how to use QjackCtl on osx at all
[21:15] <_puddle_> catia is an option?
[21:15] <OvenWerks> bobbycheetah: I don't know MX Linux at all, but
[21:15] <OvenWerks> _puddle_: catia is an option for what?
[21:15] <_puddle_> change frame/period
[21:16] <_puddle_> just a thought, i have only used a hackintiosh a bit
[21:16] <wonko> I'm going to try to use jack on osx
[21:16] <wonko> we'll see how it goes. :)
[21:16] <OvenWerks> _puddle_: you have to get JACK running in the first place though
[21:17] <_puddle_> i was under the impression it was
[21:17] <OvenWerks> The act of starting jack should be able to set latency
[21:17] <_puddle_> true enough
[21:18] <OvenWerks> bobbycheetah: recording audio to a wave file (can be compressed to ogg, mp3, whatever) can be done by any number of apps.
[21:19] <OvenWerks> bobbycheetah: audacity should work just fine
[21:19] <wonko> hmm, is jack kinda crap on osx? now this laptop crashes
[21:21] <OvenWerks> wonko: I don't know from experience (not having the the price of entry) but I do know people do use jack on the mac because someone went to the trouble of getting mcpdisp to run on it.
[21:23] <wonko> Well, it might be Mixxx as well, which runs like absolute crap
[21:23] <wonko> and I can't seem to get it to talk to jack anyway, the options are CoreAudio or None
[21:23] <OvenWerks> bobbycheetah: what problem have you had with audacity?
[21:24] <OvenWerks> wonko: it may not show jack if it is not running
[21:24] <wonko> it was running
[21:24] <wonko> also, the crash backtrace shows the firewire extension as the reason the kernel paniced on the mac. Which is not a positive thing I don't think?
[21:29] <OvenWerks> wonko: the person who did the mcpdisp build may not have used fw
[21:30] <OvenWerks> but I suspect that there is no ffado drivers for mac or at least you have to have something built for the kernel involved
[21:36] <wonko> Ok, so I can get jack started. It makes audio all crackly when it's running (using an app that is still talking to CoreAudio)
[21:36] <wonko> I cannot for the life of me get an app that works with JACK on OSX
[21:37] <wonko> Also, I'm pretty sure Mixxx was trying to do something dumb with FW
[21:37] <wonko> that is almost certainly what was causing it to crash, so I deleted that.
[21:39] <bobbycheetah> it is flaking out too much.   It took forever to stumble on the correct device (and still don't know how i did it) to get sound to work.  Then when i did,  the next recording i tried to make it stopped again working again.  i know that's very genric, but it's hard to explain.  it's like "you had to be there to witness it's behavior”  so I started thinking - maybe there is a diff dis
[21:39] <bobbycheetah> tro that works better with audacity.   if so,  should i focus on a release that matches up with my existing hw config.
[22:15] <OvenWerks> bobbycheetah: what sample rate and buffer size do you use?
[22:31] <bobbycheetah> i don't see sample rate setting.  i see sample project setting which is 44100 by default.  my main issue is trying to get sound.  I can see in the pulse gui that sound it making it in,  but nothing coming from the speakers.
[22:31] <OvenWerks> I don't think audacity does sound out while recording.
[22:37] <bobbycheetah> it does when you use the "monitoring" option
[22:37] <OvenWerks> Ah, ok. Are you using the same Audio device for input and output?
[22:37] <bobbycheetah> that way you can play the LP, hit pauxe then hit record,   so you can check levels.
[22:38] <bobbycheetah> input is turntable -> phono preamp (ARTcesoories) -> to the linux box via USB.
[22:39] <bobbycheetah> output would be via the soundcard - like used normally and can hear sound while in youtube, or listeing to mp3, etc.
[22:40] <OvenWerks> That may be a problem as they can not be properly synced.
[22:41] <bobbycheetah> the list of input devices that show in audacity is ridiculous.  i pic one,  try it,  pick another, try it,   each time you have to use the "scan/discover devices"  eventually I lucked out and the one i picked worked.
[22:41] <OvenWerks> You may be better of using JACK as a back end for pulse
[22:41] <bobbycheetah> i'm gonna jump off here.  i'm going at add 8gb mem tmrw.  (total of 16).
[22:42] <OvenWerks> with studio-controls you can  set that up
[22:42] <bobbycheetah> i tried using jack, but totally lost with it.
[22:43] <bobbycheetah> or i may just say screw it and go back to using my Mac.  I just figured, i had a Linux box to do the job.
[22:43] <bobbycheetah> *had a linux box that was competent to do the job.
[22:43] <OvenWerks> It has been a long time since I tried a vinyl transcribe
[22:44] <bobbycheetah> the other chat i'm in, they recommended going back a kernel in mx linux.   so i may goof around with that.
[22:45] <bobbycheetah> linux in general - no matter what distro i've tried,  there's always something that just is a pita to get working.    thanks every one for your time and advice!